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Dawn Falcon
16th May 03, 7:48 AM
As some people allready know, I'm a secind year game design student at Salford University, UK.

I am putting together a mod group for a HW2 TC, which will be called "Fallen Dreams".

The plan goes like this-

After HW2 is released, the team will make a small TC (The Human-Allderani War), with a half-dozen ships per side and 3-4 missions. To prove to ourselves and Relic that we can do it - and also to ensure that we understand the tools and eliminate any problem children from the team.

Once that's been released, work on Fallen Dreams will start in earnest.

"After the isolationist era's wormhole-weapon effect had faded, the Terran Defence Zone who ahd overthrown them boiled out from Terra on a crusade in the name of Terran Unity.

Terran forces - including the 14th Battlegroup (focus of the TC) - are fighting the Starchild Union (Humans), when contact is made on the other side of Human space, at the new Orion Station, with the multi-species Alien "Sinteris Federation"...."


I should have the full doc for the Human-Allderani war written up inside a week.

Zefram
16th May 03, 8:38 AM
interesting story we are seeing the start of, i would like to see some concept art and a more complete storyline first though.

Ammon Ra
16th May 03, 8:51 AM
interesting :) good plan. good story. looks good. did i say that i't interesting too?? ;)

IgnusDei
16th May 03, 11:10 AM
sign me up, and PM me.

Rebel
17th May 03, 12:23 AM
I really have no experience at all with programming/texturing/anything that would actually help with creating a mod. But if there's anything fairly simple that I an learn by the time you need it I'd love to help.

Just trying to get some experience and help with something great.

Also, I was pretty good at tweaking the .shp files in Homeworld.

Elif Tymes
17th May 03, 1:12 PM
Well, if there are anything similiar to .SHP files, I can handle them :-D, sorta....

Since I havent seen the tools for HW2, could you post a link?

I dont model very well.. Mainly because all I have is blender :-(

But I can help with basics, and everyone needs a grunt ;-)

COunt me in, and PM me...

Dawn Falcon
19th May 03, 9:41 AM
contacted everyone...
*bump*

Anyone else?

Ammon Ra
19th May 03, 5:07 PM
don't want to work with two TC's...esp when one....oh nm...ill probebly get a rant/flame war started...

IgnusDei
19th May 03, 11:12 PM
Pst! Dawn FalconClicky me plz! (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12208)

Zefram
20th May 03, 5:41 AM
well that f**king rocks :/

Ammon Ra
20th May 03, 6:33 AM
*cough*rip-off*cough*....

but nice finishing touches...that's the only good thing...

Dawn Falcon
20th May 03, 12:43 PM
*whistles*

Yep, that IS nice heh :)

Starfisher
21st May 03, 5:44 PM
http://members.tripod.com/dr_phil/ig.jpg


Put a space after the url if it doesnt work.


I made this in about 2hours when I Should have been studying for physics. In fact, I have to go right now, so I'll make excuses for the crappy texturing and hurried model later.



PM Dawn Falcon

IgnusDei
22nd May 03, 2:05 AM
still mking that front and back view...don't worry Zef...it'll be your *preciooouuusss* soon...very soon.

Retroboy
22nd May 03, 5:38 AM
My talents and time are both limited, but I do have significant fanfiction experience if you're looking for someone to script reasonable dialogue in any single-player campaign or missions. I unfortunately can't offer any technical assistance.

Weak help, I know, but the offer is there.

-- Retro

Ammon Ra
22nd May 03, 12:55 PM
dont work. tried at least 5 spaces, nothing. [:]

Zefram
22nd May 03, 12:58 PM
its quite simple really, you need to copy paste the link into the browser address bar.

IgnusDei
22nd May 03, 2:57 PM
or if THAT gives you trouble (with garbled text), type in the link character by character.

and it's alaways nice to see a drawing translated into 3d, no matter how...rushed.

Ammon Ra
22nd May 03, 3:15 PM
EDIT: who cares...some1 banned me from a certain forum...who's name i shall never utter in virtual space again...
:bunny:

Starfisher
22nd May 03, 10:14 PM
Yeah, rushed. Sorry bout that... I just couldn't study for physics anymore and therefore had to do something else. I apologize for my failure to texture it correctly - not only was I defeated by Unwrap UVW, I only had about fifteen minutes in which to try. Still, not bad for two or so hours.

Dawn Falcon
22nd May 03, 10:21 PM
Ammon Ra, it's called "resolving conflicts of interest"

Ammon Ra
23rd May 03, 5:41 AM
*cough* :censored: sucking -sensored- -censored-....ect... *cough*

lol..."resolving conflicts of interest"..yeah, by blocking be, buy openly using vulgar language, and by doing other non-competitive/human things.

yes. right.

:blah:

anyways, i self-ban myself from this thread and any other thread containg the word "dawn falcon" and "fallen dreams"

Zefram
23rd May 03, 6:35 AM
ammon ra, you accused us of stealing designs and wittered on about various other things... i dont recall any bad language being used. pff.

Delphy
23rd May 03, 8:12 AM
I'd rather this topic not degenerate into a flame war please people :)

Let's hope Ammon keeps up his "self imposed ban".

Ammon Ra
23rd May 03, 2:01 PM
[breaks self-imposed ban first and last time]

@delphy: u implying to bann me from this thread? im not trying to flame,
@zef: i NEVER accused you of stealing. i never even showed anyone except my team members the drawings, so please don't put words into my mouth? all i said (i can't acces those forums anymore) was that the "coalecanth" looks similar to a race that i designed. i politly asked if ignus/team could stay clear from our ship designs. what ignus drew wasn't that similar to my sketches, but it was uncomfortable similer. that's all what i meant. any mis-understandments weren't intended.

i really think that you over reacted dawn, firing me because i asked kindly to stay clear from a certain look/feel of ships that ignus was getting uncomfortably close too.

PS: @ ignus, doubt ill be sending that image to you as "his almighty Dawn" dont want you to see it...
...Legally, we DO NOT, ABSOLUTELY want to see...

well, i guess since you have no idea what our ships look like, and since i can't acces your forums.. there's nothing that can stop our designs from "coincidently" becoming too similar.

also, if i ever acused you of vulgar language i take it all back.

[re-activates self-ban]

Dawn Falcon
23rd May 03, 3:22 PM
No, frankly I think I was prefectly reasonable from a legal standpoint.

If you have that kind of deep involvement in another TC then frankly this team's not for you anyway. None of the others have that kind of commitment.

And yes, they might concidently look the same. Since we won't have looked at yours, no problem.

Vijil
23rd May 03, 11:48 PM
I was just accused of the same thing in my thread in the gallery. Strange.

Oh and btw I signed up for the FD forum but never got the email. What should I do?

And could someone please put links to the forums and web site in here?

Starfisher
24th May 03, 8:59 AM
Something that no one else seems to have caught:

Ammon, I've never seen your "disturbingly similar" concept art. I have to take your word that you have created something similiar to Ingus's ship design, and that you did it before he posted his material. Even if he secretly is a ninja and raided your house for ship ideas, he posted it first. So now everyone recognizes his ship idea, and when/if you post your "disturbingly similiar" concept art, everyone will say, "Hey, you just ripped that off ignus!"

The lesson: If you want your material to be recognized as your own, you have to copyright it. In the world of the homeworld forums, posting an image essentially says,"Hey, look what I made! If someone posts something too similiar to this, its should be ovious that they copied me! This image is now my pseudo-intellectual property!"

Obviously you shouldn't post everything. But you also should not contest the originality of something posted by another person unless you have pulbic proof that you created it first.

Dawn Falcon
24th May 03, 9:02 AM
Vijil - I activated your account heh. Sorry, should have said that before....

And the forum is for now (until it's skinned at least) not to be advertised, thanks

Langy
25th May 03, 7:03 PM
Depending on how the TC is looking when HW2 comes out and how the modding tools are for it, I might join up with this to cover the technical side of things besides modelling and textures. Like animations, .shp file type things, and mission-making. I could also do idea work if you need it, and possibly make some pretty ugly concept art if my scanner starts working. It all depends on how the TC is coming along and how well I think I can use the modding tools when I see 'em, though.

Zefram
25th May 03, 8:00 PM
.. wont it be a bit late to join then?

Dawn Falcon
26th May 03, 7:55 AM
...yes

Essentiall, the Human-Allderani war TC we're taking virtually anyone on at this stage, and undertsand that they may drop out at a later date. The team which goes on to make Fallen Dreams will be smaller.

Starfisher
26th May 03, 2:37 PM
Hopefully Relic will do the same thing they did for IC with HW2 and release some tools early. On the other hand, lets also hope that whatever made molo rant about RDN goes away too.

Zefram
26th May 03, 5:44 PM
they didnt give ic enough dev support so noone could really truely be bothered to make a total conversion. HW2 i think will be different as hw proved to be a great game to mod and the community is still buzzing with activity so they would be stupid not to.

Stlaind
27th May 03, 2:20 PM
I recently picked up a copy of truespace and would be willing to help when/if I figure out how to use it.

Zefram
2nd Jun 03, 6:48 PM
http://nz.yaboo.dk/tim/screenshots/coelacanth.jpg

here is the coelacanth ive modelled, it doesnt have a gun (that goes underneath) but thats not finished yet. um... its green. it needs some tweaking here and there, but its ok till we get more model specifics from relic when the mod tools come out and such.