Relic's New Strategy Project [untitled] (X360, Wii, PS3)

[liso]

I was just reading the sister's preview at Gamespy when I stumbled at this:
http://www.gamespy.com/company/026/026600.html

Personally after the Outfit I was sure that Relic will do another console project, bear in mind that they said that they would like to enter the next-gen market. However as far as I know no official info is released at this moment, even an announcement of a work in progress.
If this is a old info - delete the thread. If not - discuss. :)

Edit: IGN has the same info but they are part of the same network as gamespy.

[NovaBurn]

This is most certainly the the Forestry Sim. Or it could be Hello Kitty 40k. Or some new IP from relic. Who knows. Interesting that it's on all three platforms. Pretty much all of relic's games have been exclusively PC and the Outfit was an 'OK' 360 game. For something that is cross-platform its got to be big. Given that everything is pure speculation; why the hel would you release something on the Wii. It's sub-par everything in terms of hardware and capabilities in comparison to the PC/360/PS3.

Also in before Buggo's ^_____^ response.

[Ammon Ra]

Vijil will be thrilled :D

[Yogo]

But but but....

It is a console game! :(

[Noir]

DUN DUN DUN!

why the hel would you release something on the Wii. It's sub-par everything in terms of hardware and capabilities in comparison to the PC/360/PS3.

Because the Wii sells? :p

[CorsairX]

i hope they will still do some great games for the pc !

if not

then its another company to betray PC gaming ;( oh well we still have people over at stardock :)

[JAL-18]

Will there be Tyranids?

[liso]

I just did a little research and there is info from mid 2006 that Relic are "keeping a close eye on the consoles". A Dawn of War, Company of Heroes port was considered. They were saying that they prefer the 360 and the ps3, because they are more mature platforms, but the Wii is considered also. Just Google relic and ps3 for example.
Game sites don't always have the exact info, sometimes when a release date is unknown they put 31 December of the year they think it's going to be released. Or when there is no info about on witch platform a game is going to be released they put every one etc. Don't think that because Gamespy says it's a 360, ps3 and Wii, it's true.

....damn gotta work on my English writing skills

[SquidDNA]

I think it's confirmed that Alex Garden took the forestry sim with him to Nexon.

http://mabinogi.nexon.net/

[Heretic]

Homeworld Three.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

Homeworld Wii?

[TigerVX]

...

Where is PC T_T?

[Heretic]

Homeworld on the Wii, you have to move the remote to control the Goat throwing Viking ships.

[Riess]

I hear instead of F2KZZZZZZZZZZ you now have to whirl your Wiimote over your head like a lasso.

[hiddensmoke]

Don't forget the part about throwing it at your TV and then pulling back at the last second when you got em lassoed. Doesn't always work...

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[NovaBurn]

Anything Homeworld on the wii would be an affront to everything awesome HW stands for. You might as well port HW1/2 to the Wii, it'd look just as bad.

[CorsairX]

Karen S`jet`s Kitty Island Adventure :trix:

[Heretic]

I'll buy it, any game which makes me look like a cowboy its a must.

[grdja]

...

Where is PC T_T?

Didnt you hear? PC gaming is dead.

[Riess]

Karen S`jet`s Kitty Island Adventure
Well, I'd buy it.

[Heretic]

Impossible Creatures, a first person shooter made by Clive Barker.

[Eighty]

Personally, I think the Wii would handle HomeWorld pretty well, what with the 3D interface and all, maybe open up its audience and get some more support in time for HW3.

[liso]

come on guys, do you REALLY think that is cool to say Wii and HW in the same sentence. Back to earth please and discuss a more possible title .....like the forestry sim for example.

[Ammon Ra]

:wtf2: @ squiddy's post :-\

anime mmo/rpg game thing?

[Imperial Dane]

An untitled strategy project.. not for the PC ? Has Relic betrayed us and joined the hordes of the faithless ? Certainly hope not, but then, this is quite early and a bit of a weird discovery.. so hopefully things will change, but again, if it is for the Wii and the consoles.. could mean it isn't anything important.

[Heretic]

Heres hoping for Clive Barker.


Clive Barker.

Clive Barker.

[Nurizeko]

A game for consoles only?. :disgust:

This better be a mediocre project to keep those at Relic not involved on the top secret next PC title of epic busy, and not Relic listening to the false corrupting promises of Chaos. :-\


Damn consoles!, damn there tempting carnal appeal and misleading unearthly looks!. :soul:


A moment of laxity begets a lifetime of heresy... :|

[liso]

No, a moment of laxity begets a life time of bankrupt. Console's outsell PC (not including the MMO's), they outperform it (don't even think about flaming me,I'm talking about the fact that is a fixed hardware and I am going to play the same game my as neighbor. Shitty graffics because of and old video or runtime errors sux) and they are cheaper. Bigger audience - bigger market - bigger sales. Now, let's not start a PC versus Console thread. People Please it's completely stupid to say that if it ain't on PC it sux. Open your mind and try. If Relic do a console game, that's great, as long as the game is good

[Imperial Dane]

A moment of laxity begets a lifetime of heresy

QFT.

But let us not get worked up too quickly.

[Illiandri]

Sweet! Now I can get my Relic fix on my pc and my wii.

It does seem a bit weird to release a strategy project for the consoles and not for the PC. Hope it is not something like the outfit because that did not impress me much.

[Riess]

Impossible Creatures, a first person shooter made by Clive Barker.
Clive Barker presents: Clive Barker's Impossible Creatures by Clive Barker. A game by Clive Barker.

[Heretic]

Quote:
Impossible Creatures, a first person shooter made by Clive Barker.

Clive Barker presents: Clive Barker's Impossible Creatures by Clive Barker. A game by Clive Barker.


Sponsored by Clive Barkers' Powergen.

[DrRansom]

Looking a Relic right now, it is only releasing games from old, but good, engines. I suspect that Relic may turn on PC gaming like everything else, seeing the trends and the potential success of EndWar. Relic is due to update DOW, right now they're just milking it, and COH is just, in the end, another take on a overused genre.

Relic used to have a lock on Space combat sims, now a small company has completely upstaged Relic. Relic will probably stick with the more profitable WW2 and WH40k games and shift those over to consoles rather than take a risk with any HW style game.

Though I would be very happy if I am wrong.

[Koozer]

If they do something similar to Battalion Wars which is the closest to a decent RTS on a console it could be quite good...whatever it is. maybe a Homeworld spinoff focusing on small-scale battles and individual ships more.

[Norsehound]

After wrestling with Dune on the playstation, I have little faith in RTS games on consoles :(

That said, :hw:^3

[grdja]

Liso, only thing standing is that consoles outsell PCs are are impossibly more user friendly. Look at textures/resolutions/AA and AF from high end PC games on high end machines. Way above anything achievable by PS3 or X360.

Strategy games dont do well on consoles. They somehow made it so that FPS sell more on consoles than on PCs, but I dont think such a act of illusionary magic is achievable with RTSs.

[Starblade]

A game for consoles only?.

Christ, were you all really that bitter over The Outfit?

Also, I'd buy, play, and 100% complete Karan S'jet's Kitty Island Adventure by Clive Barker starring Clive Barker as Karan S'jet.

[SeniorDingDong]

Indruducing Clive Barker™ as Clive Barker™, brought to you by Clive Barker™´s Cliver Barker™-Entertainments®.

Excuse me, but Relic should do a new Homeworld or DoW 2.... (and for PC :disgust: )

[WhiteGulls]

Personally, I'm looking forward to this. In my head I've worked up a whole scenario. It's called "The Outlet." Karen S'jet has just disconnected from the Mothership for the first time, and is just dying to go shopping. However, partway through her madcamp shopping spree, she starts to run low on power! Oh no, whatever is a wirehead to do? So begins Karen's epic quest through the strip mall to find an outlet with enough power to recharge her and let her finish her epic shopping spree. Brought to you by Clive Barker.

... I think I'll go kill myself for that now.

[Heretic]

Clive Barker brought Relic Entertainment.

Clive Barker's Relic Entertainment by Clive Barker's game studios new game, by Clive Barker, called Clive Barker's Impossible Creatures, based on Clive Barker's Relic Entertainment by Clive Barker's Game studio's Impossible Creatures engine. By Clive Barker.

[roflmao]

Its just DoW on consoles guys.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=66369

[Paladin]

They should do a DoW: Space Marine, in the style of Starcraft: Ghost.

That would be worth playing.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

Clive Barker's Clive Barker Game Authoring Software: For Clive Barker, By Clive Barker

[Wintermute]

Its just DoW on consoles guys.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=66369
That's a pretty old article, are you sure?

[Nurizeko]

No, a moment of laxity begets a life time of bankrupt. Console's outsell PC (not including the MMO's), they outperform it (don't even think about flaming me,I'm talking about the fact that is a fixed hardware and I am going to play the same game my as neighbor. Shitty graffics because of and old video or runtime errors sux) and they are cheaper. Bigger audience - bigger market - bigger sales. Now, let's not start a PC versus Console thread. People Please it's completely stupid to say that if it ain't on PC it sux. Open your mind and try. If Relic do a console game, that's great, as long as the game is good

I agree with the bold, which begs the question as to why you posted the above, fanboy. ;)

Sarcasm and insincerity doesn't come over well on the net, I guess. :reporter:



I wouldn't mind having a 360, Halo games are more fun on consoles anyway. I just don't have £200+ to acquire one on a whim, and they don't have nearly enough features to peak my interest to save up.


Kinda like that Covenant plasma rifle... (http://www.firebox.com/product/2010)


Seriously though, for Relic to release a new RTS on everything but the PC is to spit in the face of every loyal repeat customer who have stuck by them since the first game.

Thankfully it just seems to be a PC - Console port.

GG

Edit: Or is it?....damnation the confusion!!! Clive Barker, Help me, Clive Barker!.


Clive Barker!.

[Zir]

New project that isn't HW3 or DoW2 means no HW3 or DoW2, and that's bad.

[Starblade]

Its just DoW on consoles guys.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=66369

Considering how that article is only discussing the possibility of DoW being ported to consoles, that's hardly proof in itself.

[Afoxi]

The amount of fanboyism (both sides) in this thread is staggering.

[Akranadas]

The Outfit with a DoW theme :D

[grdja]

How is it fanboyism if a developer is discriminating a portion of their customers by not developing game for their platform.

[SchizoBadger]

The Outfit with a DoW theme


Did anyone else get really excited when you said that?

[hiddensmoke]

Not really... although a FPS/RTS would be awesome.

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[Paladin]

Oh God...

I just had a vision of a NatSel game only in War40k style...

I need to change my pants now.

[Boomstar]

The outfit+DoW = awesome-on-a-disc.

Or a space dog fighting type game set in the Homeworld universe would be cool.

[Cyberbob]

How is it fanboyism if a developer is discriminating a portion of their customers by not developing game for their platform.

In all honesty, would you be saying this if this new project was PC-only?

[ZellFish]

Sadly, The Outfit was a travesty. Just terrible. Piss poor. It didn't even merrit an Outfit 2.

[Kirjava]

CLIVE BARKER.

[liso]

Nuri - definitely not a fan boy, been a PC gamer for the last...12 years I think and I play RTS and RPG's mostly, but I hate to see people screaming "ohhhh no, a console game, Relic you betrayed us" what are you guys - 4th grade :)....however you were right with the sarcasm. Point taken.

Now on topic: here are some links:
http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/727/727065p1.html
http://ps3.qj.net/Relic-changes-course-looks-at-RPGs-and-MMOs/pg/49/aid/74512
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3152511
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=18612
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/companyofheroes/news.html?sid=6154856

So, I seriously doubt that it is a Dawn of War port, simply because, let's face it, it's an ancient engine, console gamers, don't like shitty graphics. A Company of Heroes Port - well just announce it and be over with it, this wouldn't be a breaking news like a announcement of a new game for example. So I think it's a new IP or The Outfit 2, but I have my reservations about the possibility of the later. Time will tell.

Edit: I think that American McGee, is a better choice than Clive Barker. American McGee presents: Alice's Bad Day in Homeworld. By American McGee

[Imperial Dane]

@Liso: Well i can admit that crying out that is annoying.. and still we don't know what the game is.. Of course if it is DoW 2.. then i would be angry, but i'd rather wait pleasently to see what it is... and hope that PC is added to the list as well.

[No Surrender]

One thing's for sure, I'm not going to let myself get worked up over this whatever it is. Remember the epic amount of suspense created around COHO? Remember the subsequent dissapointment? Yeah.

PS: Next person to utter the words "Clive Barker" gets banned from the thread.

[grdja]

Stephen King.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft.

:P

Hopefully it will eventually get to PC. Money frenzy is so great amongst publishers now days. The vaunted X360 exclusive Mass Effect has just been announced for PC.

[Cyberbob]

The vaunted X360 exclusive Mass Effect has just been announced for PC.

Really, was the tone necessary?

[DoomKnights]

The wii is the best platform for RTS vs all the others. As it has a semi-mouse ability you can move around and group units. Of course its going to be a pain in the butt trying to get units groupped.

[Imperial Dane]

@Cyberbob: Dunno, do recall a lot of hype and how awesome it was and how fantastic it was for the xbox 360.. and while i am interested, it was a bit annoying to hear about "Oh how great this game is.. but it is only for the xbox360 and it is amazing and the pc sucks".. well perhaps not the last bit, but it was oozing from it. So it might be entitled.. but what do i know ? I'm just a PC gamer that doesn't like it when people get all superior towards the PC, though i have nothing against consoles. Each man towards his own game.

[Locutus]

grdja, links? All a Google search turns up is old rumors on that subject.

[Imperial Dane]

Hope this helps:
http://gamebanshee.com/news/static/EkpklkyFVELMdChimu.php

http://www.demiurgestudios.com/blog/2008/02/demiurge-and-bioware-team-up-to-bring.html

[BmB]

Liso, only thing standing is that consoles outsell PCs are are impossibly more user friendly. Look at textures/resolutions/AA and AF from high end PC games on high end machines. Way above anything achievable by PS3 or X360.

Strategy games dont do well on consoles. They somehow made it so that FPS sell more on consoles than on PCs, but I dont think such a act of illusionary magic is achievable with RTSs. Halo did it for FPS, Halo will do it for RTS [HD] (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28437.html)!

[Noble]

Pikmin is one of the best and most creative RTS games I have ever been privy too, and it was released on the Gamecube years and years ago.

Don't worry, Relic isn't gonna let inferior player input devices spoil their fun. :p

[Starblade]

You know, that's the first time I've ever heard anyone think of Pikmin as an RTS, even though it basically is. Overlord (which is essentially Pikmin but replace Pikmin with little goblin things and Olimar with Sauron) handled very well too.

[Bla(kGerbi|]

A compromise then:

HW3: Battle Fleet Animal Crossing for Wii (somehow loosely associated with Clive Barker) featuring the full cast of AC waging an intergalactic war against violence and the forces of military force.

[Sycon]

It's a Homeworld flight sim (I hope)!

[Ammon Ra]

Homeworld racing/piloting/shooting game.

I touched upon this in the other thread, where you race and shoot your way through courses in a 3D micro-machines type of game, but set in the Homeworld universe, which has more than enough fluff and backstory. Will sell on consoles, will work on pc's with mice with a proper control scheme, and will make the homeworld universe more popular, so it's a win-win situation. I'm all up for a another homeworld RTS, but as Uber keeps on pointing out, the mental requirements to fully take advantage of the 3D environment is not wide-spread among the gaming demographic, and is usually limited to us men, which means little profit for THQ/Relic.

[Zir]

Homeworld Kitty. A Homeworld themed minigame pack comprising such delights as Vaygr Bomber Golf and Karans Kawaii Dancing.

[Ammon Ra]

Karan S'jet's cute dancing? Why not throw in Karaoke and sushi bar as well?

It shall be called: Clive Baker's Karaoke and Sushi bar.

:trix:

[Energizer Bunny]

How successful was The Outfit? Couldn't this just be The Outfit 2?

Failing that... my money's on something to do with Company of Heroes. I can't imagine anything more difficult to implement on a console that a Homeworld game.

[severijn]

Traitors!

Well, I hope they're also making PC project, as they usually have more than one project in the works.

[Riess]

I think the 3d camera control of HW would work fairly well with console controllers. I can actually imagine HW2 on an X-Box controller, using the analog sticks to replace the RMB rotation. Certainly better than the precision management needed for successfully playing CoH.

[SubZero]

Hmm, the analogue sticks on the 3 nu-gen consoles are anything but precise. The mouse is alot more easier to use accurately than a mini-joystick ever will be.

It took me about a week of playing Res Evil 4 on the Wii to get used to the Nunchuk Analogue stick, and im still a little rusty.
Goldeneye64 (a game I was a master at, and entered official Nintendo magazine competitions) took me about 2 months to fully master the movement, and then an extra 2months for the free aiming. Some folks just won't have the patience to master controls such as freecam, or movement.

[Shoota Fodder]

What about a WH40k FPS :p. If they make it decent, then it will be great. I've been dyig for another 40k FPS ever since Fire Warrior left that horrible taste in my mouth.

[Ammon Ra]

relic =!= fps

as far as we know...

[Starblade]

Goldeneye64 (a game I was a master at, and entered official Nintendo magazine competitions) took me about 2 months to fully master the movement, and then an extra 2months for the free aiming. Some folks just won't have the patience to master controls such as freecam, or movement.

Is it really that hard for people to get used to console controllers from using mouse and keyboard? I grew up playing both PC and console, so I never had a problem with it, but it took you four months to not be terrible at the game? It took me about two days to get used to the first 3d game I played with a joystick (Super Mario 64).

[SchizoBadger]

It would be awesome to see The Outfit Warhammer 40k-ified. A lot of people said the game was crap but I thought it was great fun. It would be awesome to see Dreads, Lemans, and other cool vehicles and stuff in MP. And make the MP epic with 40+ players and have 3 or 4 sided battle maps. I might actually take up MP again if they did that!

[Ammon Ra]

And the thread has devolved into a keyboard/mice vs other controller discussion...:rolleyes:

Mastering a controller type is not the same as "not being terrible at the game". It probably would take anyone who's not used to a controller at least a month to pretty-much master it.

edit: Is 40+ multiplayer possible on consoles? :-\

[Starblade]

Mastering a controller type is not the same as "not being terrible at the game".

My mistake GZ, I missed the word 'master'. Still, I didn't know it took people that long to manage it correctly.

Is 40+ multiplayer possible on consoles?

I suppose it's possible, but I doubt it'd be very stable, and it'd lag to hell and back. Wasn't Halo 3 planned to be 32 player at one point before they decided to cut back to the typical 16 player matches? I think that 100-man per team MMO Huxley is coming out on consoles eventually too, but I've heard nothing about it at all, so I don't know if it's still going to be released on them or not.

[SchizoBadger]

It should be. I don't understand why it wouldn't. It really pisses me off that all the MP games on consoles go up to 12 player maps. WTF? They use the excuse it makes it more tactical. Yeah, but I want massive, chaotic battles. I want the option!

That is pretty much the main reason I hate console MP, at least PC games let you screw with the code and such allowing 72 players(!) or more in some games. Lovely, sublime chaos! :rofl:

[Ammon Ra]

...and i thought 32 player TF2 was chaotic and cramped... ;)

[gorays]

I want Relic to make DOW 2 with Tyranids using Essense engine. :)