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Maniakes
6th Apr 08, 3:47 PM
Once seen those images on dow2.com..in your opinion what system requirements a game like that would need?
Graphic seems to be really improved..and that "assault" screen shows a LARGE vision of the battlefield..i'm a bit worried about that...

a 512mb graphic card will be enough? 1.5giga ram? 3.0ghz processor..? tell your opinion O_O' i need to be reassured http://server.imageparadise.net/~web/image/pics/a09f27711047961091f1073b7061b475.gif

Versian
6th Apr 08, 3:52 PM
Well, I imagine something alongside modern game requirements. I'll be happy if it requires less than 3 GHz processor. I imagine it will allow multicore support as well as simultaneous video cards (SLI, Crossfire).

I can't give a good guess though.

cannonfodder
6th Apr 08, 3:55 PM
I kindof hope it won't require a 8800 as a minimum to run... don't wanna go broke over one game! :D

Maniakes
6th Apr 08, 3:55 PM
mmh..all these textures worried me :D
great ones..but have you seen ork or marine details..? 30 units like these and i can feel my 512mb graphic card suffer http://server.imageparadise.net/~web/image/pics/1cdbb2974e38ada0c506d1bc128cbb08.gif

CommodoreKitty
6th Apr 08, 3:59 PM
Don't worry, by the time this game comes out the price of a lot of the high end stuff will be down by a lot. However, with this game I think it would be far better to get the full thing and have a nice system to play it on than an average system and need to put it on a low setting. I want my shiny models as well as my awesome gameplay!

Versian
6th Apr 08, 4:00 PM
Scalability FTW!!!

DoW2
6th Apr 08, 4:01 PM
Probably 8800GT to run, I don't see it going lower than 8600, or a stretch would be 7950's.

They're probably going to recommend the 8800GT's anyway, for DX10 and stuff.

4Servant
6th Apr 08, 4:03 PM
Well I dont know how much they can push their escense engine prolly alot but I think that recomended specs for coh can be dow II minimal specs?

DoW2
6th Apr 08, 4:04 PM
Well it is Engine *2.0*

4Servant
6th Apr 08, 4:07 PM
Aye you got a point there but is it a complete new engine? Or just some heavy buffed verision of the old engine?

I mean if you look at the cnc/bfme gerne the old sage engine as been pushed and pushed and basicly after 2 or 3 years after the first verision the recomended required system specs for cnc generals are even a bit higher than CNC3's minimum.

ContractHitman
6th Apr 08, 4:07 PM
I PRAY DOW2 NEEDS FOLLOWING:

core duo min.4.0
graphics 8800 min 512 mb
2gigs DDR3 ram
watercooled
:)

DoW2
6th Apr 08, 4:11 PM
What do you mean by min.4.0?

4.0 GHz? Probably not. Core 2 Duo would be fine at 3.2 as a recommended requirement for DoW2.

Water cooling is entirely irrelevant in deciding game specs.

Ap0k
6th Apr 08, 4:19 PM
You guys need to remember that 8800's and 2.4 or whatever dual cores are going to cost bugger all in a years time. We'll be well into 2nd, if not 3rd gen graphics cards, and Dual Core will be the new market standard. If you do have to upgrade (and you can guarantee it's not going to be light on the system specs, but it's likely also not going to need a beast doom machine), it's really not going to cost a fortune to do so.

Viper114
6th Apr 08, 4:21 PM
I believe it will be a little more than CoH. Let's look at CoH:OF minimum system requirements:

2.0GHz Pentium 4 or equivalent AM Athlon XP
512MB RAM (Vista 1GB)
64MB DX9 graphics card with Pixel Shader 1.1

Now look at the recommended:

3.0GHz Pentium 4 or equivalent
1GB RAM
256MB GeForce 6800 or higher

We all know at this point that DoW2 will be more demanding than CoH. It is, after all, using the Essence Engine 2.0. With that said, my guess is, with knowledge of other games currently available, that the requirements will be around the following:

3.0GHz Single Core CPU
1GB RAM (Vista 1.5GB)
128MB DX9 graphics card with Pixel Shader 2.0

And the recommended:

2.5GHz Dual Core CPU
2GB RAM
256MB DX9 graphics card with Pixel Shader 3.0 (For DX10, I'd say 512MB 8800GT or higher)

That's my reasonable and realistic guess. It might be a little more, or little less. It'll be up to Relic to decide what's what.

blueboy93
6th Apr 08, 5:16 PM
My PC handles CoH & OF with EVERYTHING maxed.

If your PC can handle that, it should be able to do DoW 2 on minimal settings at least.

Viper114
6th Apr 08, 5:39 PM
Also, think of it this way. Can your computer handle Crysis at reasonable settings? If it can, you can pretty much play anything. My laptop can handle Crysis at around Medium settings, and any UE3 game pretty much maxed out. DoW2 will be no problem for me.

PitSoulja
6th Apr 08, 5:53 PM
as it is right now it's supposed to use multicore processing power which is cool in itself I may switch to quad or whatever is out by the time dow2 comes out. the more cores the better I believe the game play will be so friggin smooth it won't be funny. this also eliminates the heavy drag on the video card for distributing data. It will use some don't get me wrong you'll still need plenty of firepower in your video card to get things to happen the way you'd like. I think the way the graphics are looking now for dow2 and considering it's really not using the same engine as coh it's using essence 2.0 you can see the big difference between coh and dow2 respectively.

Also arn't you tired of everyone else's slow loading times as it is in soulstorm? wouldn't we want to get something that has at least some decent loading time. I'd like to see dual cores being utilized more so then single core processors. and since they're using it I'd at least like to see 2 ghz dual cores being used at the least. The prices for these things arn't ecstatically huge and are relatively affordable. I think in my point of view we should see it like this

min spec
2.0ghz dual core
2gb of ram
384 mb video card.
???? of hd space
broad band play required (no more dial up get that out of here)
network play (as usual how fun would this be without lan fun too)

blueboy93
6th Apr 08, 5:58 PM
I was just assuming there's not a huge massive omgwtf boost from Essence 1.0 to Essence 2.0

ViS
6th Apr 08, 6:43 PM
Well, going on the fact that the game probably won't look TOO different from the way it does now, I'd say I should be able to nail it with the 8800 Ultra I'll be splooging on as soon as the prices on the 8 series start to plummet. Hell, you must be able to play it on current hardware if it's being developed on current hardware, right? I doubt they'll give the engine a total overhaul just to take advantage of the 9 series cards...

Embrance
6th Apr 08, 6:58 PM
PitSoul->Mind that a multicore processor or 2 gfx cards wont do the trick,UNLESS the software/game you are running actually takes advantage of them.

Viper114
6th Apr 08, 8:42 PM
Somehow, I don't think we've reached the point in system requirements where Dual-Core CPUs are REQUIRED to run a game. Not even Crysis does. It'll be a while yet.

Hirmetrium
6th Apr 08, 9:26 PM
We'll be well into 2nd, if not 3rd gen graphics cards Be aware the 9x series is out and has little to no improvement over the 8800 series.

COH Opposing Fronts:
Minimum:
XP/Vista
2.0ghz CPU, Athlon XP PentIV or equiv
512RAM(1gRAM for vista AND multiplayer)
DirectX9.0c with 64mb(!) of memory with pixel shader 1.1 or equiv

I'd expect it to be that, possibly higher at its lowest. Thats a guess.

Kjon
6th Apr 08, 9:34 PM
Guys, remember back to Dawn of War 1. The quality of the pre-release screenshots where better then the quality of the textures in the actual game.
I'd bet it'll be the same thing with Dawn of War 2, Relic is most likely used hi-res textures and the like for these teaser screenshots. The ones used in game will probably be toned down slightly to allow more people to play the game.

TheLoneKnight
6th Apr 08, 9:40 PM
Yeah, and the pre-release screenshots for CoH/Opposing Fronts were about, if not the exact, same quality as those seen in-game. I think Relic may have learned their lesson from DoW: don't have ubersexy models if you're not going to use them.

That being said, I figure the minimum requirements for DoW2 will be quite similar to those for CoH/Opposing Fronts. Possibly a bit higher, but I wouldn't guess it to be too much more. Now, to get the game playing at the same quality as the screenshots/gameplay videos show... that might take a bit more than what CoH/Opposing Fronts demands. ;)

Terrordar
6th Apr 08, 9:59 PM
I wonder if it'll include multi-threading to increase Quad Core performance.

But I suspect it'll be-

2 gigs of Ram.
2.6 Gigahertz Processor
512 graphics.

roflmao
6th Apr 08, 10:03 PM
I agree with LoneKnight, for DoW it looks freaking amazing, but it does not look THAT much better than Opposing Fronts, although the lighting is improved, quite a bit (which adds stress to vid cards :()

mikami170
6th Apr 08, 10:56 PM
blueboy93 what are your specs?

IVE'S
7th Apr 08, 12:00 AM
I suspect my computer will explode when I load the disc in. I'm still running the ancient FX series with 512ram. I do have a killer 3ghz processor but it just won't cut it. I have been wanting to upgrade for awhile, but I might put it off as long as possible to let all the good stuff cheapen a bit. With a good year or so to go, I think I will be alright.

EDIT: I love how the marine in my avatar looks up at my writing. Sort of urging you to read it :).

Dazz
7th Apr 08, 1:50 AM
I would say something like the following

Minimum:
XP/Vista
2.0ghz CPU, Athlon XP PentIV or equiv
1GB RAM(2GB RAM for vista AND multiplayer)
DirectX9.0c with 256mb of memory with pixel shader 2.0 or equiv 512MB or higher is recommended

LoRd KoRn
7th Apr 08, 2:01 AM
I think the SAGE engine proves that a game can look good while having low requirements. Best example is C&C 3 which has the best quality/performance realtion I have seen so far in an RTS. The essence engine might not only be improved in quality but also in performance (I hope) so that it has around the same requirements as CoH like it was for Battle for Middle Earth and C&C3. I also hope that DoW2 wont have a focus on certain system parts again like in DoW where your grafics card was just bored at some point while the cpu could not catch up anymore.

Techlology
7th Apr 08, 2:07 AM
Darn, guess my 8600gt just won't cut it if I run it on vista...

konfeta
7th Apr 08, 3:18 AM
Be aware the 9x series is out and has little to no improvement over the 8800 series.

To be fair, 9x series isn't an actual next development of NVidia cards. The 9xxx name is just a marketing ploy.

Ranger_Logan
7th Apr 08, 3:23 AM
I`m sure that by the time we see this game out we`ll be looking at shelves full of Dual Core 3.2Ghz CPUs, 1GB Nvidia/ATI video cards, and 6Gb RAM sticks. My only worry is that I might sell the house to be able to afford one like that. :twocents:

nick2512
7th Apr 08, 3:29 AM
Haha, by the end of this year or the beginning of the next. Hardwares will be cheap enough for you to buy without leaving a giant red hot hole in your wallet.

I'm 15, I work at the local Maccas as a part-time employee but I saved enough money for me to get myself a nice little card or CPU but than again, I live with my parents so I can get them to get stuffs for me too. :p

wintersong
7th Apr 08, 6:59 AM
With that said, my guess is, with knowledge of other games currently available, that the requirements will be around the following:

3.0GHz Single Core CPU
1GB RAM (Vista 1.5GB)
128MB DX9 graphics card with Pixel Shader 2.0
Where do i sign for those minimums? :Hail: I even sign for a graphic card with 256MB.
Eventually, no matter what, i'll have to buy a new computer (it goes like :ballchain with new games that are not TBS) but that doesn't mean that i wouldn't enjoy to keep the current one some more time (like... forever? make games that will work in it? :Loco: ).
But as some of you would say:
"In the name of the Emperor, upgrade!!!" :donny:

KON Air
7th Apr 08, 7:27 AM
No Shaders, No DX10, Space Marines Only, Final destination.

(yep, I got to waggle stick and did it online, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7gmds2njg)

neucromaner
7th Apr 08, 8:14 AM
anyone can run crossfire and SLI stable and fast in COH OF?

i hope DOW2 can suppport these multi gpu, because we may need to.
since no single card can have the power to run dow2 on 30 inch monitor.

also i hope dow2 can support quad so that it can run physic on other processors.

so i hope the requirement for dow2 will be quad processors and crossfire etc.

Terrordar
7th Apr 08, 2:50 PM
By the time this game is released, I will have a Quad Core processor, 4 gigs of DDR2 800 meg ram, as well as a 3870X2 crossfired with a 3870, giving me 3 GPU's and 1.5 gigs of GDDR4 ram.

I think I'll be alright >.>

Z3r0Fear
7th Apr 08, 2:54 PM
I think the system requirements shouldn't be to high because the fans that play this game on older computers shouldn't be taxed into replacing computer parts because Relic decided to go for graphics and not for the mass user base the game has.

blueboy93
7th Apr 08, 3:00 PM
Not everyone can replace PC parts.

No game should make people literally go out and buy Hardware, unless you have a real shitty PC.

IVE'S
7th Apr 08, 11:39 PM
Be aware the 9x series is out and has little to no improvement over the 8800 series.



To be fair, 9x series isn't an actual next development of NVidia cards. The 9xxx name is just a marketing ploy.

Actually I read somewhere that the 9x series was pretty much two 8800gt cards SLI'd into the one unit, only taking up one port. This was done so that it could be made possible to run 4 or more cores together (i.e. 2 9x's SLI'd together)

fneep
7th Apr 08, 11:44 PM
Well, no matter what the minimum specs are, I started upgrading for DoWII yesterday. Thankyou and goodnight.

dextra
8th Apr 08, 1:40 AM
regarding the comments about not being forced to upgrade: it's sort of a double-edged sword.

on the one hand not everybody might be able to afford a new pc on the other hand i really don't want a dow1 engine anymore (even though it still looks pretty).

example starcraft 2: the next part will be pretty low so even players with inferior pcs will be able to play the game.
but sc2 is different.

sc has a pretty big fan community (which will stick to the game like kiddies to cs ^^) and (like cs) this fan community gathered around sc not because of the graphics, but the game play.
sc is still the most popular rts game in the world, so it (kinda) doesn't depend on graphics.

but for dow2: our fan base isn't precisely that big and even though an inferior graphics engine would keep some regulars' with older pcs it would be pretty darn unattractive for everyone else.

you have to keep in mind that there are many people with strogner computers out there (needed to play something like c&c3 or supreme commander).

so i think a new, powerful engine is needed for dow2, to open up new opportunities.

Oz_Striker
8th Apr 08, 2:09 AM
The 9800gx2 is in essence an 8800gx2, the 9800gtx is yet to be released. In response to the topic, I feel that if you are able to run crysis fairly comfortably then you will have no troubles with DOW2 as no game out or scheduled(except Farcry2) will be as taxing as crysis.

neucromaner
8th Apr 08, 2:38 AM
By the time this game is released, I will have a Quad Core processor, 4 gigs of DDR2 800 meg ram, as well as a 3870X2 crossfired with a 3870, giving me 3 GPU's and 1.5 gigs of GDDR4 ram.

I think I'll be alright >.>

in some game, maybe dow2, that 1 3870 is faster than 3 3870.

this is because multi gpu need driver and game support.

Terrordar
8th Apr 08, 2:42 AM
By next year? The support is going to be there, its already rapidly appearing as it is. And multi-GPU is becoming the new common for high end gaming.

Octopus Rex
8th Apr 08, 2:52 AM
No game should make people literally go out and buy HardwarePffff. I'll be upgrading for DOW2. :)

Guys, it's at least a YEAR away. Ap0k said Dual cores would be standard by then, I'd agree but there'll be a whole lot more quad core's out there too. 8800 will be old news bythen. The 9000 series is already out and there'll probably be a 10,000 series by then too.

Also, yeah, it'll be scaleable. You''ll be able to play on low spec, but it DOW2 ffs, you really all that gore and action replaced with fudgey little block men running around? :)

I think I'm going to put off upgrading my gfx card (possibly more) till nearer the time, not simply for DOW2, but with computers the longer you can wait and be patient, the more you're going to get for your money. The components are getting cheaper all the time, they'll be even cheaper in a year.

White Noise
8th Apr 08, 12:42 PM
what i'd like to know is what they're developing it on *right now*, as in what hardware our beloved relic folks are building the game with, because I sure as hell am going to kick my 5(!) year old computer into serverdom for dow 2

I am more worried about vista or similar horrible requirements, and (lol) will they be using opengl

Chip
8th Apr 08, 12:58 PM
Its going to require directX 11!!! :jester:


What ever the requirements are, if ran on Vista it'll need double that.

darkelf
8th Apr 08, 1:01 PM
White Noise, probably the best stuff you can get your hands on :p

White Noise
8th Apr 08, 1:12 PM
which will be equivalent to a chrome plated turd by the time the game comes out

PitSoulja
8th Apr 08, 8:25 PM
it was already said that the game was going to make use of multi core processors. and that does make a huge difference. why waste time threading 5 million things in 1 processor when you can divide them up between 2 or 4? at the current time single core processors are still available, and they're slowly dropping off the end of the market. by the time you get to next year you may be lucky enough if there are any left. So yeah why not just drop it all together?

sure you're going to get better graphics with 2 gpu's but thats not going to help you're computing power at all just your graphic portion, you got sound, calculations, loading time and whatever else to think about. you can have the pretties and sweetest picture possible but what good is it going to do you if your computer is stuttering at 10 fps because your computing power isn't strong enough.

like I said before in our current soulstorm we're already waiting for people and loading times are already junk as it is. Time has come to just make things easier on everyone else by making requirements higher to make loading time and game play on an almost equal level for everyone.

and about vista, don't get hyped up about vista at all. whatever the requirements are for the game it's about the same for vista. you can still run dawn of war decently on one gig of ram on vista home premium, but for this yeah you're going to need more because the game is going to need more. just because it's on vista doesn't mean you need double. I can't say much because I have a huge ram count right now. But for a relative I play dawn of war with I know what they have and what they're running so that much I do know.