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Col Von Barring
26th Sep 08, 1:47 AM
I've just received my Siege of Vraks - Part two from Forge World, so I thought I'd share my impressions of the book.

So, what do you get for your money? A hard back book of 208 pages of high quality glossy paper filled with stunning colour plates and line drawings, loads of background material including Imperium politics, space battles, epic last stands, Titan battles, Mole Mortars and a new army list for Renegades and Heretics.

The book is divided into five sections -
1/. The Siege of Vraks
2/. Forces of the Imperium
3/. Forces of Chaos
4/. Scenarios - "Histirical" refight scenarios
5/. Appendices

There is something in this book for everyone intersted in the 40K universe. Space battles for Battlefleet Gothic, Titan battles for Epic, underground battles for Necromunda and Kill Team, politics for Dark Heresy, mass battles for Apocalypse. There is enough background here to play Kill Team games and Combat Patrol as well as "ordinary" 40K games. There are plenty of modelling and painting ideas for wargamers and non-wargamers alike. Masses of suberbly produced photos for terrain modellers as well. There are force organisation charts for Tank Companies and Artillery Companies for fanatic collecters like me! There is also a Battle group Organisation for the Legio Astorum - 22 Titans!!!

As with all Forge World books, the colour plates are superb. My favourite is the two page, full colour plate of the Reaver Titan of High Princeps Rand Drauca.

The Renegades and Heretics army list is different enough from SofV1 to be worthwhile, more Chaos influence but no Daemons yet. Still Imperial Guard based but completely different - I'll be building this army next!

So, is it worth the money? You bet! If you only buy one book this year, buy this one. You will not be disappointed.

Major_Blackhart
26th Sep 08, 5:56 PM
So, is the Chaos Lord of Khorne whatever his name is cool?

His model certainly friggin looks it I tell you what.

Imperial Blade
5th Oct 08, 3:57 PM
Sounds like a great book! I might buy it if I have any cash lying around after I buy Gears of War 2 and Endwar. If possible, could you take pictures of the Krieg pages and post them?

GawD
5th Oct 08, 4:37 PM
Posting images of the IA books is considered IP violation. Which is very bad.

But other than that it sounds like a lot of fun. I'm probably going to pick it up for the super heavies. Stories and rules alike.

Is Vraks entirely DKoK based though? Or does it include other imperial armies. What chaos armies are there?

Imperial Blade
5th Oct 08, 4:53 PM
Really? How come it's an IP violation?

As for the book, I'm pretty sure the majority of it is for the DKOK but I think there are a few sections on the Dark Angels.

Flonky
6th Oct 08, 9:37 AM
Not meaning to be pedantic, but it would not be IP violation, but copyright...even then ForgeWorld can't really complain since you are literally advertising their book for free and in a good light...

Anyways, it the first Siege of Vraks book needed to fully use the second one? They both look to be quite awesome and I might eventually get them as I like reading IA books.

Tinweasel
6th Oct 08, 10:47 AM
Intentionally meaning to be a stickler AND pedantic, one good reason for not posting direct scans from the Siege of Vraks book would be in the RelicNews Forum Posting Guidelines (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=5710):3. No warez.
At All. Mentioning it at all gets you fired out of the nearest ion cannon, never to return. It's evil. We hate that here.

Theft of intellectual property is a serious concern to those it most affects... the creators. Relic Entertainment houses many great creators. In support of them and their work we have taken a firm stand against the promotion of software piracy (also known as warez) and the theft of digital media and other intellectual property (IP). Without proper compensation for their work we would not see software titles like Dawn of War or Homeworld.By posting direct scans of pages, those would be several fewer "reasons" for people to go out and buy the book... essentially undercutting one of the many companies/groups for which these Forums exist.


That being said, I'm definitely a fan of ForgeWorld's Chaos Renegades figures and published material so far - so much so that I've lost the motivation to do a "Shriven" IG force (based on Dan Abnett's books) as a lot of the ideas I had for my own converted figures already exist in the resin Renegades. I haven't had a chance to look at "Vraks 2" as it wasn't out at Games Day (yet) but I'll be keeping an eye on the local GW stores... or maybe just order it through Barnes & Noble or something - they special order in Black Library books, so I don't see why ForgeWorld ones with a valid ISDN# would be any different.

Imperial Blade
6th Oct 08, 1:22 PM
I guess that the whole violation thing does make some sense. Even though it seems a little bit too paranoid in my opinion. I'm most likely going to buy Vraks 2, pictures or not.

On the topic of renegades, I'm thinking of converting some of their models into stormtroopers for my upcoming WW1 IG army. I'm particularly fond of the Renegades using autoguns which are, in my opinion, much better looking and named then lasguns.

40k1Gamern
14th Oct 08, 7:03 PM
Why not just go the Forgeworld Website and have a look at the pictures of the book pages thatīs already there?
Yeah,and while youīre at it,donīt forget to get a copy of the Vraks II Poster as well.

Scott-][-Walker
17th Oct 08, 6:54 AM
Is their any mention of Arkos and his alpha legion warband in this volume

Captain Kain
20th Mar 09, 12:14 PM
Dang...scanned every book i bought. I say people should see if something's worth buying :)