Epic 40,000: Final Liberation

[madmerchant]

EPIC 40,000: Final Liberation (Released 1997)

This game pits you in a brutal war between the Orcs and the Human Space Marines from the classic Warhammer 40,000 tabletop game. Using a variety of troops, vehicles and giant robots you must conquer your foes in battle.

Battles take place in turns: Each turn you get a chance to move and shoot at your enemies. Each side gets a variety of units: some are just foot soldiers, there are also tanks, hover-bikes and even giant robots. Weapons range from Bolters (big sub machine guns) to laser cannons and vortex bombs.

The plot is simply to destroy your enemy -- each mission usually works this way too. Simply get your guys together and fight.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,2311/


http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview/zones/reviews/pc/dec97/final02.jpg

http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview/zones/reviews/pc/dec97/final06.jpg



This game was awesome. Anyone remember it?

[thesamonthemoon]

Yep. It was a fun game.

[Russian Ninja]

Yeah, I remember. Problem was that when games got too big, they became Titan wars. Still good stuff though.

[Ezekiel_980]

I still have my copy but it doesn't run on windows XP, any body know how to make it work right?

[IgnusDei]

i got me hands on Chaos Gate, but it won't run, damnit.

it's looks okay right up until it gets to the title: right then, it's just all black screen, some music and a mouse pointer that has nothing to point at.

[ShineDog]

ignus. try compatability modes, i think it worked for me

[IgnusDei]

tried that: no cigar.

[GhellerField]

Good stuff...just got off of half a day's worth of playing that sucker and now the background music just won't....go....away...! *screams to self* *tries to breathe slowly* But I'm okay....

Hopefully DoW won't be like my earlier experiences with Final Liberation--killing that last unit of grots that snuck under a rock halfway into the cityscape with nearly my entire army wiped out while fighters that can't hold ground are still blowing me away. Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow....

[Russian Ninja]

Oh, wait. There was another problem. It was just a Shooty match, as assaults weren't all too good (the game processes of them were pretty random and not really encouraged). The fact that most Orks were better in assaults than the Imperials didn't help too much either.

[Dagda]

What a Great Game, and had so much Promise! They promised expansions for different races, I had so much hope but saddly as soon as they released the first patch they stoped supporting it..point blank!

And no guys it dosent work for XP. I used to be able to get it to play by changing the mode (right clicking on the icon) but it dosent work anymore. I would love to find a hack out there that had either a fix or work around.

[Ezekiel_980]

well you could format a 10gb partition on a hard drive as fat32 and install windows 95 or 98 on it along with final liberation and run a dual boot operating system.

[SoheilsX]

hey fans, u wanted an expansion, you got an expansion.
http://www.wargamer.com/flx/
Enjoy. :)


Also check on there fo rthe editing tools to make your own units, maps and so on.

[HeritorAsphodel]

Any one get Final Liberation to work on a Windows XP system? I got a new computer and it wont work on it.

[Destraex]

Yeah it was cool multiplayer

And I DO love the scale, Space Marines were insignificant but hopefully this game will do them justice. It was like the game space marine. :dyn:

[Dazz]

Yeah i was unable to get either Lib day or Chaos gate to run on xp :(

[Trooper]

I know this is an old topic, but i found my copy of the final liberation and installed it to my computer. I had no problems with XP.. don't know why.. but. I'm interested in getting my hands on those editing tools and other expansion mods. I tried that link above, but it seems that none of those zip-files are any longer available.
If someone has those files or at least some of them, could you please put them on internet and paste the link here, or e-mail those files directly to me? I'd really appreciate it. =)

[LordGath]

It fails to load because of the videos (as I understood it). If you disable the videos, the game should play fine for everyone.

The catch is that to disable the video, you have to make a change to the epic.ini file, which is created until the first successful run of the game and since it crashes, it never gets created.

First a disclaimer, this worked for me and in the unlikely event this does something horrible to your machine (which it shouldn't), you do this at your own risk.

There..

Create a text file called epic.ini (not epic.ini.txt if you make that mistake) in the FL directory (should be the one with the epic40k.exe in it.

Copy only the text between the dashed lines and then save the file.

------ Don't copy this bit! ----------
[Options]
MusicVol=100
FX_Volume=127
MV_Volume=127
UseGrid=0
DoVideo=0
WatchAI=1
AutoSave=1
------ Don't copy this bit! ----------

I've got the compatibility mode for win95 on and all the compatibility options (no themes, 256 colours, etc.) switched on for the epic40k.exe but don't know if that was when I originally tried to get it work.

Anyway, that should allow you play the game (with no videos sadly).

That should allow you to play the game.

[NeoHunter]

Haahaa...they even had real life actors to wear the Space Marine Suit.

[King Terenas]

I remember this game, very fun but I soon got bored of it. I absolutely loved the cutscenes though! The closest we've been to a 40k movie except for Inquisitor. I've lost the game somehow, really sad cus I would really like to play it again. I saw a screenshot of one of the cutscenes when I followed the link on this thread, and well, it wasn't as cool as I remembered, the space marine looks really small and stupid, but the Commissar is cool though.

[Drachenfels]

Final Liberation was sadly another bad 40K game. The cutscenes were the only decent thing about it. Too bad DoW is the only good 40K game ever made :(

[Jakaero]

Hmm... last I checked, the game could be found at the Home of the Underdogs website. Good stuff, and I did not have to fiddle around with much to get it to work on XP. That may be because I use VDMS sound on anything of that age.

Otherwise, yeah, fun game.

[SgtSteve]

Holy!! Praise the Emperor, I just found my old copy!

Gonna try to install and run it, I really enjoyed this game, although the rules that governed it were an unusual chimera of 2nd and 3rd edition epic (and at the time, 3rd edition hadn't been released yet, from what I recall).

I wonder if I could find someone to play multi with... =)

[Ferretarmour]

Im D/Ling the demo, quite interested

[|AXiN|]

It also, unfortunately, used all the old models for vehicles - they were much improved in 3rd Ed.

Btw, is anyone here actually interested in Epic TT? Because the new version (Epic Armageddon) in available from mail order US and UK. Looks pretty good, and they're following it up with model releases, including all-new Tau, Necron, and Guard armies.

[CrossOfFire]

Praise the Emperor? ...Come now...That's...That's...That's just....That's...That's Devotion.

[klaras_dad]

I was beta tester on final liberation.

By the time it was released I was so fed up with it, I don't think I actually installed my "thank you" edition. :)

Cheers

[Tholomas]

Did anyone find this game too hard? Morales always seemed to be the thing determining the outcome.

[Slawson]

Final Liberation is installed on the XP machine I am typing on right now.

Not mine, I'm visiting a friend for the holidays, but he got it to work in XP.

[Galdred]

the game was good indeed, but the problem, for me is that it was based on the Steel Panthers model from which they removed a ton of stuff(like terrain based detection, good penetration and accuracy model, hexagons: the square ranges were plain ridiculous).
IMO, it was a nice game overall, but it would have been better to directly port Steel Panthers than to simplify it that much .
And it really lacked variety in the armies.
I was a lot more pleased with Chaos Gate.

[klaras_dad]

Ended up installing it this afternoon. Great fun.

You can find patches for Final Liberation and Chaos Gate here: http://www.bananaking.net/cento/ssi.htm.

When installing the patch on xp the patch program gave a message that the path was invalid. I fixed this by changing the name of the directory the game was installed in from "c:\final liberation" to "c:\final", then ran the patch. Afterwards I changed the name back and the game worked fine.

Cheers

[sargemahoney]

moderator edit: abandonwear is bad mmkay, we don't talk about it here - ani

[sargemahoney]

buildings no load!! me can no play!! Sarge Angy!!

[King JM]

This brings back memories... however... I lost that game a ver long time ago. damn!

[Starkad]

Great game, though I liked Chaos Gate better, but still got both =P.
I never actually completed it, but I found out that massive-infantry owns titans =P. I tried a few games where I used titans vs infantry and well... titans dies very quickly suddenly. lol.

[sargemahoney]

how can i make this game work on xp?!?! i tried the .ini thing and no change! angry! i cant even get the chaos addon cuzz the wargames site has no DL mirrors left!

[sargemahoney]

nm just cut the file and put the whole folder in to C drive instead of desktop and now it works.. how RETARDED of a problem

[Albi]

Dude, EDIT :)

[sargemahoney]

never, edit bad, Sarge no pay attention.. why arent their cut scenes? i cant find ANY .smk files, but then aghain i got it off the HOTU sites.. someone PM me if they can E-mail me some of the scenes or post a site that has em please

[Galdred]

one problem with Chaos Gate, through: sometimes, the game gets corrupted, and you cannot play your save anymore.
It happened to me at the mission beofre the last one :/

[trikky]

To run all those old win95 games on 2000 and XP you need to add the argument -WINCURSOR to the "Target" line of the shortcut to the game .exe

For example:

1. Right click on shortcut to game
2. Place cursor at the end of the Target field
3. add one space and the entry "-WINCURSOR" (without the quotes)
'c:\mygamefolder\mygame.exe -WINCURSOR'


Enjoy!

[ani]

sargemahoney please use the edit button in the future.

Pay attention to the moderator edit above.

[MonkeyWithAnUZI]

Wow, stumbled across Final Liberation on that site, and was amazed it's now freeware. *yay*

Also amazed to stumble across this discussion in this of all places.

Sarge, if you find those missing files, let me know. If by some miracle I find my CD again (lost it while renovating my room/office, dadblastit). I remember the scene with the Space Marine, and was amazed at the quality (compared to the game : :bandit: ). Ahh..the memories.

Thankfully, we have Dawn of War...or else we'd all cry. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some Heretical elements to dispatch with cleansing Bolter fire :D

[blahblah]

Hi - Have recently downloaded Final Liberation from Home of the Underdogs. Unfortunately they don't supply a manual. Does anyone that has the full copy of the game have the manual. If not digital then maybe someone could scan it? Home of the Underdogs have a place where it can be uploaded or someone could email a copy.

I know this would be effort for anyone that does it, so many thanks in advance!

[Killalot]

My original copy of the game had no manual. So i doubt you'd find it. If you do, go you!

On the game itself, i love it if just for the sheer stupidity of the game. A game where ranged fights are important. IG vs Orks. Yeah right.

[General Blaze]

I smell thread necromancy.

[Esa]

Star, how much is your massive infantry?

[Killalot]

You buy nearly any infantry type in 5 squads of 5 persons. You get to buy 20 places in total, so massed infantry can leave you with 640 troops if my maths are good. :p

[Esa]

Well, i dont count the mas inviduals, but as squads, cause you cant control invidual infantries.

Any1 have the cutscenes or pictures of em?

[DreamReaver]

Now THAT was a great game indeed.I still remember the huge variety of tanks,squads,weapons and detail of that game. Yeah it had Titans and Gargands which it was cool.

But it is a very rare game her in Greece so it was a big mistake that i didn't bought it then back in the 97.. :(

[Esa]

Are computergames still banned in greece?

[Road-kill]

EPIC 40,000: Final Liberation (Released 1997)

This game pits you in a brutal war between the Orcs and the Human Space Marines from the classic Warhammer 40,000 tabletop game. Using a variety of troops, vehicles and giant robots you must conquer your foes in battle.

Battles take place in turns: Each turn you get a chance to move and shoot at your enemies. Each side gets a variety of units: some are just foot soldiers, there are also tanks, hover-bikes and even giant robots. Weapons range from Bolters (big sub machine guns) to laser cannons and vortex bombs.

The plot is simply to destroy your enemy -- each mission usually works this way too. Simply get your guys together and fight.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,2311/


http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview/zones/reviews/pc/dec97/final02.jpg

http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview/zones/reviews/pc/dec97/final06.jpg



This game was awesome. Anyone remember it?
Hell yes. What narked me was how Baneblades could never seem to hit anything with it's battlecannon, but the Stormhammer could...

[Killalot]

Oh, i can name loads of things that are strange in that game. Like Nob Squads taking down Knight Paladin Titans for example.

[Road-kill]

Knight pala-what?

[SchizoBadger]

Hmm, I was not fortunate to play this game, it looks like it was fun, SSI made some cool RTSs that I have played though.

[sibob]

Hi everyone, i really loved the FL game to, i can't get it to work either on XP. I've tried running it in DOS, changing compatability modes etc etc, patching it, whatever.

Every single time, i load it up, the SSI logo zooms in, then goes blank and an error pops up in the background saying:
"The instruction at 0046c5a7 referenced memory at 01d30000
The memory could not be written

Click ok to terminate this application"

Anyone know what the prob might be??

cheers
Si

[Nazuel]

Sibob, have you done the .ini file and command line modifications listed earlier? That fixed mine.

[Matt Skillett]

Final lib was a great game, and chaos gate was the bomb to.

[Nazuel]

So does anyone know how to extract and play the movies from final liberation? With XP I obviously cannot view them in game.

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

Home of the Underdogs: Final Liberation (http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2796)

If you don't have it you can download it from there for free, its abandonware. I also think the readme that you download tells you how to get it working in WinXP, if not, just flick back a page in this thread to find out how.

Its a good wee game, for a quick laugh, and you may as well get it, as its free. ;)

[sibob]

I've the command line estension, along with the ini file thing, compatability mode on, running it in a DOS shell, i still get the same error message popping up after the SSI logo finishes. :(

Si

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

Are you trying to run DOS shells in WinXP?

Technically.....Windows XP doesnt actually have DOS, it has a command line certainly....but that aint DOS.

Try running it in Compatibility mode for Win95. Thats what I'm doing and its working fine.

Make an "Epic.ini" file in the game folder that reads as follows:

[Options]
MusicVol=100
FX_Volume=127
MV_Volume=127
UseGrid=0
DoVideo=1
WatchAI=0
AutoSave=1

File size should be 100 Bytes.

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

I'll write a nice little guide for you all in about 3 hours when I'm home from work.

I'll start with D/L'ing the files from Underdogs, I'll download them again so I have the same copy and I'll get them working.

[edorien]

abandonwear is bad mmkay, we don't talk about it here

A reminder from earlier in this thread

[Inferior Being]

:busted: If abandonware is really bad too, I'll just go ahead and delete that post myself, just to be safe. Sorry.

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

Why dont we talk about adandonware? I want an explaination.

[Inferior Being]

Why can't I watch the cutscenes? And why is there no music? And lastly; why are there two open slots for both the Eldar and Tyranids in the codex but I can't play as them?! :steam: I'm so confused, so confused...

[Road-kill]

Because they were gonna release expansion packs, but that never came to be.

[Inferior Being]

Oh. Damn. Anyway; I can't download those expansions from the Wargamer site. Once I click a link, I get an error. Can anyone help with this?

[Meester]

I was just looking at my Final Liberation box the other day.

You needed a cheat to get the Paladin as a computer player sometimes used them but you couldn't unlesss you used a cheat.

[sibob]

The underd**s website doesn't host any WH:40k games anymore cos games workshop asked them to take them off apprently. I tried the .Ini file thing and changing compatability mode....same problem.

Si

[Haribo2k5]

Hmm, interesting game, though I stopped playing after having my Leviathan tank being destroyed in CC by a gretchin squad :)

[Kruniac]

Yeah ill download that sometime.

[darkmist]

the final liberation manual is automatically installed when u install the game, it is the pdf file.

[Killalot]

Nice 1 month bumb..

[Seraphim2150]

I have a question. Is it possible to make an imperial v imperial battle?

[LoneWolf666]

No.

[Typhoon GX]

A pointless bump. You could have just tried it for yourself you know.

[Question]

Nice 5 month bump.

[Unknown Sniper]

I loved that game, still got it as a matter of fact. Anyone know if there's a patch to make it run on XP, as I've tried installing it and sadly it doesn't work on my XP computer.... :( :joy:

-Unknown Sniper-

[Question]

Oddly enough its worked fine for me on XP.I might have used compability mode,not sure.

[Guardsmen]

Happy days :drive:

When I was but a young child on a world like no other...
Anyway, yea I had this game before I played TT and it defo influenced me into doing it, it was good, however it was bugged on my comp, always forgot to play the cool music, lol.
:music:
Guardsmen

[Finaldeath]

Egad, an old post. I might still remake the FMV's into a workable DOW campaign. But this thread will, or should, be locked - its a random collection of abandonware and bumps :)