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dynamic
9th Jun 04, 6:47 AM
First up.. hey guys /gals,... forum trolls :P
Was just wanting to ask a simple but im sure could very well turn out to be,... very complex question :P :-
*Does anyone know of any plans to take the warhammer 40k idea to the big screen?... in any shape or form?
Regards,
dy
ps. Sorry if i just repeated a question previously answered... but why rouine a true time tradition... :P
CobraCommander
9th Jun 04, 6:55 AM
there was a totally cg one planned but it got canned
ceejayoz
9th Jun 04, 7:01 AM
My guess would be that there's just not a big enough audience for a big blockbuster movie. Most movie adaptations of games flop - think Wing Commander - and the ones that work (like Tomb Raider) work because they have boobs.
Evil M0j0
9th Jun 04, 7:26 AM
Mmmm... boobs
there is this.. http://www.damnatus.com/
Take that for what it is, though low budget
is that a 40k based movie? sorry i dont speaken the german...Um also there was a movie about a Inquisitor once...I forgot the name...But it was live action! there were crazy people in suits of power armour and terminator armour and chaos power armour! all the things looked neat, but the actuall movie...i think was a flop... But think of it this way...i mean this game is attracting audience thats not TT based, ya know? so a "movie" if made right could attract other audiences too! make it like,,, really action based with AWSOME cg... and a good plot... like a good movie! And also...we can include boobs into it! I mean the calidus assassin???? using her sexy body she "infiltrates" into the govenor's close working circle only to find that he is possesed by a deamon...Or sisters of battle! and thier battle damage justs happens to knock off her power armoured top :wow:
Oh yeah...Resident Evil! that was a bad movie...but it had some boobs in it...hehe
NightBringer
9th Jun 04, 7:38 AM
there was official talk about making a movie based on the warhammer monthly strip BLOOD QUEST but there wasn't enough funding so it changed to make a cg series to be shown on channel 4 (uk) and sky one... but again lack of funding, so freelancers came up with their own ideas, but none have ever come to fruition so far
and resident evil was a great movie! like the first matrix film, it was a budget movie, unt didn't do aswell at the box office
ionfish
9th Jun 04, 7:48 AM
Yes, but unlike the first Matrix film, it was bad. Resident Evil was an awful film. Milla Jovovich is hot though.
NightBringer
9th Jun 04, 8:06 AM
lets agree to disagree.... tuh and u gave me a warning for spamming, ur doing it urself :P
str8 answer... i doubt GW has any intention of making a feature film... but the idea of smaller films, much like the novels (basically they make films of the stories instead of writing it in a book) would be cool... i'd gladly offer my acting skills if they ever wanted to make them
WarpSpider
9th Jun 04, 8:11 AM
I think a 40k movie could do well. People love fantasy war movies... I mean before the Lord of the Rings movie, The Hobbit and similar books were relatively unpopular compared to what they are now. Same with Harry Potter.
What I'm saying is maybe a 40k movie would attract people to the TT hobby. I can't help think that'd be a bad thing though, because then WH40k would gain a massive geek following like LotR, and I'd hate that because those clowns turn stuff into a laughing stock :(
mpjesse363
9th Jun 04, 8:12 AM
the thing about it is that if a movie comes out with the warhammer name on it and its bad then everyone will associate warhammer with bad movies could one be on the horizon ... maybe .
gw is experiancing a kind of rennissance a high point so to speak and if the fan base were to widen a little more then i am sure that one would be attempted
Goallie11
9th Jun 04, 8:18 AM
Maybe they are secretly making one with out telling us.:lurk: They probly won't tho since it would require a huge amount of money for all the special effects and everything. And i agree with Warpspider that it would bring a big geek following and then they would like it for a while and then quit, just like a fad.
Put who knows, maybe thats why they are raising prices
MetalMilitia
9th Jun 04, 8:19 AM
I think he was misinformed, but a guy who works at my GW said New Line is considering the 40k universe because of the success of LOTR, but I highly doubt it.
WarpSpider
9th Jun 04, 8:22 AM
Well LotR converted pretty well to the TT... Don't know if it'll work the other way for 40k.
MetalMilitia
9th Jun 04, 8:24 AM
I definatly think it is possible, I mean I could think of a million awesome ways to start a 40k movie and a million different awesome stories. So I think if they just got someone, or a group of people who really know what they are doing to make it, it could be amazing.
(I know its off topic but has anyone heard if that mechwarrior movie was canned?)
NightBringer
9th Jun 04, 8:26 AM
Goallie11 sorry to burst your bubble but they raised their prices coz it was costing more and more to make the models, if we want them cheaper, they said we'd have to go back to using the old models, eg. 2nd edition sm/ork&grot plastics from the boxd game.
i do agree tho, if there was a film and it attracted more people to the hobby 1) it wouldn't attract many coz of the prices, and 2) it would jsut turn into a fad, which would end but before it did, the sudden influx of nu gamers would cause much of the existing fanbase to give up on it
dacarab
9th Jun 04, 8:30 AM
If a movie were ever produced, I'm afraid the feel of it would be very diluted (the 2000 AD world of Judge Dredd has a similar dark feel to 40k - it never came across in the movie), unless it was made by people who are really into 40k....
Hmmmm....maybe Relic would care to break into the movie business? The Horus Heresy could be the new Star Wars.... :P
WarpSpider
9th Jun 04, 8:40 AM
Horus Heresey would own Star Wars, lol.
Then again I hate Star Wars, Star Trek, Stargate, Starcraft... Most things with "Star" in for some reason don't appeal to me :)
Ohh Starship Troopers was ok, but only because it had Denise Richards in and it reminded me of Tyranid... I'm gonna shut up now before I go right off topic :)
RogueFox
9th Jun 04, 9:08 AM
Starship Troopers
Nearly bought the double DVD of Starship Troopers & Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation today. Never had the £20 on me and couldnt find an ATM. Will get it tomorrow me thinks.
HobbyGuy
9th Jun 04, 9:10 AM
I think he was misinformed, but a guy who works at my GW said New Line is considering the 40k universe because of the success of LOTR, but I highly doubt it.
ive learned never to trust anything that comes out of the GW-jerks mouths. they like to start false rumors to throw off non-gw websites.
i can see a 40k moive doing well only if they based it off of one of the black library novels. that way theres already a plot and partial script that should be easy to translate into cgi (live action would cost too much and lets face it, live action sm just wouldnt look the same). but.... your right.... wouldnt do as well as it would if there were boobies. a deamonifuge film would do just fine then :bandit:
NightBringer
9th Jun 04, 9:18 AM
lol yeah SoB would have to make an appearance lol tho personnally i dont see what the big fuss is about boobs :S
DarthFelth
9th Jun 04, 9:34 AM
live action dont look right, did u ever see the clips at gamesday with the wolf guard termies, the dark angels and world eaters, they looked awesome, but i think the only problem would be filling the suits with 8ft tall people :( now the horus heresy triolgy would be great, with a breif start explaining abit about the good emperor, some nasty bloodthirster on primachs duels, and then the emperors semi defeat (u know if u were looked in a book for a few 1000 years im sure you wouldnt class that as a victory really)
Dimension
9th Jun 04, 9:41 AM
there's actually a movie out called "warhammer", with some subtitle. it stars dean kane (aka superman in the tv series), as well as "jimmy" from the same show. low budget movie.
the movie depicts some kind of aftermath to a small-ish war involving several human planets. 3 techno-witches (they were really called that) spice things up. at the end, they're beneath something that kind of looks like an assortment of hivecities, or smaller versions of hivecities. its not clear whether this is actually set in the universe, i don't remember an "emperor" being mentioned, or things like that, but on the other hand, with the vastness of the universe depicted in 40K, who knows? there was some sort of warp demon shown towards the end too.
i tend not to think of it as a warhammer movie though, because even if it was set in the same universe, it didn't really sport what you'd consider to be typical to the universe, save for war.
PS: lol darth, since when have size differences been a problem in hollywood? if you avoid some trickier angles, you can have giants and dwarfes in the same movie, yet still spending a few hundred or thousand bucks for a bluescreen. also take a look at the lord of the rings.
HobbyGuy
9th Jun 04, 9:45 AM
sounds like a ripoff
NjalStormcall
10th Jun 04, 8:29 AM
I wonder if the 40k franchise could survive being a movie. Maybe if PJ did it.
Majestyk
10th Jun 04, 8:58 AM
hey hobbyguy, i resent being called a "jerk". anytime i say anything rumor-wise to anyone, its 'cause i heard it from somewhere higher up.
i hate it when gamers assume anything a GW-staffer says is a filthy lie, just because we said it.
NightHaunter
10th Jun 04, 9:08 AM
I always dreamt of one.
I had the first scene thought out! The movie would start with a Space Marine squad sitting in a Rhino doing whatever space marines do (Check their ammo, pray to the Emperor) when the Rhino opens up, many shurikens fly strait into the head of one, they would depart and onto a nice battle scene against the Eldar like D-Day for Saving Private Ryan.
I'm looking forward to the Silent Hill movie though. I'm sure it will at least be good!
HobbyGuy
10th Jun 04, 10:35 AM
well..... the stuff your told may also be false on purpose. bottom line is not to fully trust what the GW staffers say.
Bryn
10th Jun 04, 11:34 AM
Have you notised that starship troopers is a 4ok rip off for instance the bugs are tyranid and the humies are cadias they have almost the same armor.
Espi0n
10th Jun 04, 11:40 AM
i think that there used to be a movie they played every year at the games day uk, but i nevr went and i have only heard it as a rumour...in a WD
Uzgah
11th Jun 04, 3:31 PM
then WH40k would gain a massive geek following
LMAO
And the following it has now isn't geeky? Wakeup guys, we're all geeks. Playing with little inch high soldiers and then argueing mudane points such as the rules for a lascannon...
Except it, you are not cool if you play GW games.
mr_mich
11th Jun 04, 4:58 PM
Then again I hate Star Wars, Star Trek, Stargate, Starcraft... Most things with "Star" in for some reason don't appeal to me :)
It's ok, I hate Starcannons too...
hybris
11th Jun 04, 5:16 PM
there's actually a movie out called "warhammer", with some subtitle. it stars dean kane (aka superman in the tv series), as well as "jimmy" from the same show. low budget movie.
Hate to break it to you, but you seem to have dreamt it all, Dimension :)
To start the actor's name isn't Dean Kane, but Dean Cain, and he haven't been involved with any movie called "Warhammer", not even those currently in production. Go check for yourself;
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001002
In fact - there aren't any movie by the name "Warhammer" at all. But IMDB gets two hits for the computer games using actors as voice talants.
IMDB really is the best resource for movies and has every movie out there (even the more obscure foreign ones... Like swedish :)
Kained
11th Jun 04, 5:30 PM
Have you notised that starship troopers is a 4ok rip off for instance the bugs are tyranid and the humies are cadias they have almost the same armor.
Ignoring the fact that the book was written in 1959?
ionfish
11th Jun 04, 5:43 PM
I imagine he means the Paul Verhoeven film.
MetalMilitia
11th Jun 04, 5:44 PM
LMAO
And the following it has now isn't geeky? Wakeup guys, we're all geeks. Playing with little inch high soldiers and then argueing mudane points such as the rules for a lascannon...
Except it, you are not cool if you play GW games.
Well there are 40k geeks, who can be very normal, aside from when they are playing 40k (like me). I think that the following could be instead of arguing about rules, if there was a movie, people who dont even play the tabletop spending all day arguing about whether an Emporer Class battleship could go faster than an Ork Kroozer, because the Ork Kroozer has a salvaged _____ engine so the emporer class battleship should'nt be able to catch up to it! That is what id be afraid a movie would bring, aside from doubling people under 13, that is why the movie would HAVE to be a rated R movie that keeps all the power ranger moms from letting their kids watch it. Anyway isnt being into anything a little geeky?
Kained
11th Jun 04, 5:53 PM
Yeah i guess he would have refered to the MI's powered armour if he was talking about the book :hover:
Brother Jonah
11th Jun 04, 6:42 PM
No offense to anybody who enjoyed the movie, but I think the Starship Troopers movie had more sucking power than a black hole. I can't believe anybody who read the book even recognized the movie. The complete lack of powered armor, and the butchery of the future world that Heinlein tried to portray(women in the MI???!!) must have had him doing about 6000rpm in his grave...
MetalMilitia
11th Jun 04, 6:56 PM
Yep the only good thing was Denise Richards, In my opinion.
Horus
11th Jun 04, 7:03 PM
you are forgetting the BOOBS! you can you do that, they were round and looked soft. but denise richards is very HOT.
Brother Jonah
11th Jun 04, 7:24 PM
I'll take power armor over breasts and gratuitous sex in a movie any day...
I am kind of hoping that the Sci-Fi channel will save Starship Troopers like they did with Dune. Starship Troopers would make a great 12-hour miniseries.
Horus
11th Jun 04, 7:49 PM
have you seen the new movie of it, they killed it with that craptactical movie
InquisitorZIM
11th Jun 04, 8:28 PM
If a 40k movie were ever produced, I for one would like to see Gaunts Ghosts hit the big screen. Even though the Imp. guard is'nt the flagship army for the 40k universe, it could be a more a viable option than plopping in a bunch of CGI marines and fitting a story around them. Of course the Heresy could be done, but would it do good to appeal the movie going masses? The Ghosts novels on the other hand still entail alot of the 40k imagery, but would give it a more "human feel" to a movie, guard infantry would give the masses somthing easier to relate to, the average grunt groundpounder fighting against some evil enemy (ie the Bloodpact). At least it would make a good introductiont ot he universe and give the masses a good grip on universe before throwing space marines at them in a cgi slugfest. And the novels have a good round solid story and character development.
I see one of two results for a 40K movie- spectacular! It is revered as a god, and gains a massive cult following (larger then the current one anyway). Or 5 words- Dungeons and Dragons the movie *shudders*
NightBringer
12th Jun 04, 6:16 AM
ummm, the gaming part of it can be percived as geeky yeah, but i seriously doubt the moddelling and painting side of it is... if that is then artist are geeky, graphic designers, sculpter etc...
remember GW is a HOBBY not just games, and the whole fluff part of it is great as it opens up to all mediums, literiture, art, film, CGI, comptuers... if GW put as much emphasis on this as is does to promoting the gaming side, it would attract many more people to the hobby, and thus may even merrit a film, cartoon series etc
any dont knock D&D the movie, it was a budget movie afterall, but great for what it was
Ordinary_Story
12th Jun 04, 6:47 AM
I think that we'll probably be seeing a 40K movie someday in the future under some form or another.
But if you ask me I've always thought that Homeworld would make a decent movie. Although it would be hard to include characters into the story.
And just for the record I think that Paul Verhoeven is the worst movie director of all time. He totaly butchered a classic Sci-Fi novel :argh: .
Abaddon
12th Jun 04, 12:08 PM
i would like to see a 40k film based on the hersey just to see the seige of the emperors palace. In my opinion if they were ever to do one they should ask Peter Jackson, but as said it will go 2 ways, brilliant or its crap, but hey they could do a small animated film by Relic or Blizzard(their cutscenes are just amazing! sorry but they are).
Crackseed
12th Jun 04, 12:29 PM
Blizz does make good cutscenes, but even they pale to Square Enix's movie might ;)
I know we all want a 40k movie. I'd REALLY love to see that hit the big screen honestly enough, we have the technology to make the sequences and rendering look perfect, my biggest concern as ever is plot and a well put together movie. Seems to be the devil that eludes film-makers today. Too much eye-candy, not enough real meat. *tisks*
Twisp
12th Jun 04, 3:32 PM
"My guess would be that there's just not a big enough audience for a big blockbuster movie."
I'd say Lord of The Rings breaks that theory. I hated the books, but thought the movies were pretty good (except the last one, which I think was not pareticularly good).
Crested_Ones
12th Jun 04, 9:53 PM
The problem would be explaining the 40k universe right at the beginning for like 10 minutes!!
I think an Eisenhorn Trilogy would merit a good movie series ..?
Crackseed
12th Jun 04, 10:01 PM
See, that's one reason the Animatrix was so damn cool. It didn't have to be a huge budget movie to get some "hidden" fluff in there. Have the movies focus on something key, then you can pop out some "animated" fluff that brings people up to speed w/o spending millions in paying actors other than for voices ;)
MetalMilitia
12th Jun 04, 10:28 PM
Now everyone says "I dont see how you could explain it in the first 10 minutes" But as long as you keep the storyline down to a few races I think 10-15 minutes of horus heresy/ encountering alien races would be plenty to fill in anyone who doesnt know, and give everyone who knows the story a great visual experience.
oh yeah... I never want to see 40k in anime, I mean its a good idea just it doesnt fit the universe, I dont think. Of course I am biased against anime, although i enjoyed the animatrix.
Crackseed
12th Jun 04, 10:48 PM
Well yeah, I didn't necessarily mean Anime as much as "animated" sequences :)
oh yeah... I never want to see 40k in anime, I mean its a good idea just it doesnt fit the universe, I dont think. Of course I am biased against anime, although i enjoyed the animatrix.
Well,perhaps with the Tau(MAYBE),but not much else. :D
Inquisition work might come close,but it's still a miss :p
NightBringer
13th Jun 04, 5:17 AM
well, if u ahve ever played firewarrior, that CGI sequence (segmentum solar) right at the begginning explains the univers quite well indeed and that is only what 30 secs long lol.
and after that to get into the storyline wouldn't take much longer than say 5 mins... or like most movies i've seen, the story jsut builds in fomr the beginning without an explanation... in this case i'd say jsut have a narrative about the lead character or something
Inquisitor Mau
13th Jun 04, 5:28 AM
Bloodquest had a scrips of a good opening...I'll try finding it...
Found it: http://www.exile-films.com/features/script_1.htm
NightBringer
13th Jun 04, 5:33 AM
bloodquest was originally going to be made as a film, then as a CG series on channel 4, then scrapped completely for either
Inquisitor Mau
13th Jun 04, 5:37 AM
^that's a shame...It looked promising (I loved those ship-to-ship combat scenes)
ShineDog
13th Jun 04, 5:44 AM
i guess im the token who enjoed ST taken on its own terms.
ill admit i havent read the book.
but take the film as it is, its a mindless, good fun sci fi romp. it was never going to change the world, but what it does (alien slaughter) it does well.
putting the marines in power armour would lose the whole sense of vulnerability that makes these type of films work. these are little bags of meat, just begging to have there BRAINS SUCKED OUT. while screaming.
BlackTemplar
13th Jun 04, 7:08 AM
"This is the face of a world that God has
just punched in the mouth."
-Bloodquest Opening
That's a freakin' riot.
Sanguinius_nz
13th Jun 04, 7:14 PM
LOL all the comments about geekiness are cracking me up !
The conversations about what ship would out run what already occur, there are conversation in GW stores and clubs about what would happen if the tanks were real and what the actual flight characteristics of a falcon grav tank actually are etc.
The other point I would like to make is what exactly do you thing you are doing making it seem bad to be a geek when you are talking about a table top wargame that you are going to play as a computer game while posting in an online forum........
GEEK AND PROUD OF IT !
NjalStormcall
13th Jun 04, 8:40 PM
Yup. Geek and proud of it!
Annatar
14th Jun 04, 5:56 AM
I think an epic about the Horus Heresy would make a friggin good movie.
You cant get a much bigger climax than that dual between the fallen primarch and his emperor.
Could leave room for a sequal too, ie. the last scene shows Abaddon bend over the ruins of the warmaster and tear his power fist off, he looks up with an enraged expression on his face, and then it cuts to a shot of the fallen fleet entering the eye of terror...then credits.
Mega-Pimp
14th Jun 04, 8:12 AM
Actually it sounds quite B rated...
"oh look! Evil looking guy! Oh look! Shiny man in big armour! And they got big freaking swords! Cliche death! Arrghhh"
spacewolflord
14th Jun 04, 12:56 PM
I Don't care if its cliche as long as it is not trash
Long Live the GEEKS We who Rule the WORLD on the internet
paulsoo
15th Jun 04, 2:24 AM
OOOOOOOooo.. wish the team behind LOTR helm the movie if there's gonna be one!.. OOOooo! Space Wolves Trilogy based on William Kings novels! Yay!
Headhunter89
15th Jun 04, 8:30 PM
I havent read any books of 40k i know a good bit about the TTG and read some of the codexes i know a lot about the story and this game is perfect for the big screen.
think about it, its an Epic. what does star wars, Lotr, the Odyssey, and the matrix. what do they all have in common.
They have a Living world, a beleivable history, beloved stories. and just like real epics like the odyessy it starts in the middle and there are events that lead up to time in which these movies and the odyessy are based(beleivable history) these stories people love and the "heroes" have reall qualities human qualities. and limitations and people love that. you make a movie on 40k about one of the thousands of cammanders or campaigns and you have a story like no other in a time with no equal or smilar you have a completely original idea and its believalbe. AND ITS EPIC!
you give good funding to a good plot with good actors this movie could change history much like what star wars did
you might think im crazy but thats ok. cuz i am but one other thing about me...I'm right :buddies:
HeraldofNurgle
15th Jun 04, 10:03 PM
Like every other geek I have dreamed about a warhammer movie for the longest time. And like everyone else the Horus Heresy would be the only way to go. And the end would not be so cliche as you think. One variation of the final battle I read of critical hit.uk was actually one of the most visceral and engaging things I've read about WH40k. The majority of the fight between Horus and the Emperor is actually a joke. Horus just beats the hell out of a grief-stricken Emperor who cannot bring himself to slay a son. But when the Emperor finally sees Horus is no more he simply wills the life out of the Warmaster, its pretty cool.
The background would not be hard to cover, that's what the whole movie would be: the founding of the Imperium, the Crusade, and then Horus' Betrayal and the shattering of the Empire. It might have to be several movies if there was to be any real plot though. You just can't compress that much story even into 3hrs of footage.
Later films could be about various fights like at Armageddon, or would involve other races like the Eldar, Tyranids or the Necrons. I don't know but I keep hoping a big hollywood studio and good director say: "Hey this would be one hell of a movie!!"
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