Black Templars?

[MetalMilitia]

Now my friend is starting Black Templars for his first army and it made me think. I know it is a bit strange but I have read and learned about almost every major space marine chapter traitor or not, except Black Templars. Would anyone like to bring me up to date on their story and whatnot?

[Cailet]

Basically they split from the Imperial Fists when the Codex Astartes was written. as I recall they are nutters who have split the chapter up and a couple of companies wander into every warzone they come across.

That's the basics anyway.

[NjalStormcall]

They refused to split from the Imperial Fists to the point of heresy, and they have now been punished to embark to endless crusades to remove their sin. Its possible that the Inquisition has long forgiven them of this sin already, but they still blame themselves for this breach and believe that they can only find redemption by endless battles against the Emperor's enemies.

[KingKupo]

after the horus heresy, Roboute Guilleman of the Ultramarines had become head of the military forces of the impirial military. He had stated that the current legions would have to be split up in smaller chapters so they could cover more of the galaxy.
Rogal Dorn of the imperial fists and several other primarches disagreed. It seemed that once again the space marines would fight eachother but at the last moment Dorn pulled back and agreed to split his Legion in a few chapters. The most zealous and fanatical became the black templars while the newer and average brethren became the Crimson fists.

The black Templars would go on a crusade wich to this day still continues. They often form up in small crusades wich have a purpose like 'kill this race' or 'liberate those worlds'.

Before a battle they gather for prayer and one of them is overcome with a vision of the emperor. This one is given the Black word and the armour of fate(basically a Powerfists or powersword how you choose to use it and artificer armour and iron halo) and several other goodies. His purpose is to seek out the champions of the enemy as the Emperor's champion, For in the Horus heresy Dorn picked the most zealous of his marines and gave him the task of slaying the champions of Chaos, this champion was the first grand master(or grand marshall) of the Black templars.


So when playing a BT army don't expect to field much heavy weapons. They do have a nice rule wich lets you charge forward instead of retreating and then they have their Vows.
I believe their rules were in index astartes II.

[epsilorn]

mmmm...it sems to me that their rules are in codex armageddon

[KingKupo]

d'oh, forgot about that one. But they did have a set of rules in index astartes II and that was the first to come to my mind.

[mpjesse363]

hey now dont forget about vows

you can find them in codex armageddon but i only use one and it is

accept any challenge no matter what
you have to assault any enemy that is in range but you always hit on a 3+

its nice

[Cailet]

It kinda sucks against GK though.

[Dimension]

when would you be fighting gk with bt?

[Anomalie]

BT always have to have an Emperors Champion and does not count towards an HQ option/choice thingy. And they can have 5 Neophytes (which are pretty much scouts) in their troop BT squads.

[MacBeth]

the Black templars are from the imperial fists,as stated the fists didnt want to split there legion into chapters,but after threat of being called heretics they split.the first high marshal was a marine named Sigismund,he was a emperors champ in the fists legion and dorn picked him to lead the templars. they of all chapters are the most zealous,they hate,nearly everything non human,they dont even have librarians.and are on a never endin crusade.they prefer HTH over ranged combat. and before every battle one space marine is given a vision by the emperor,he then tells his chaplains,then is given the black sword and the armor of faith.they stalk there enemys in the battle fields and challanging the champions of the enemy force. and before every battle the battle force takes one vow that they will do in the battle.the black templars also made the land raider crusader.both of these are now in mos chapters.

well I really dont want to go into all the things about the templars,but enjoy.

[mpjesse363]

let me also state that in accepting neophytesinto a squad lets you beef up the regular 10 marine squad to a grand total of 15 that is why you can get 15 regular sm troops in an lrc.

[FeloniousPunk]

Why I would never play BTs:
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1) Your iron halo always goes to a mediocre HtH character with only two wounds.

2) No librarians.

Cool colors though.

[Anomalie]

One of their vow is when there is an enemy psyker on the table at the start of the game . When it's the BT's first move they FIRST roll 2D6 to see distace they go foward, they have to travel the full distance and they have to do this for each unit(vehicles included). then they move normally and continue their turn.

[BrianGeneral]

I remember most their goddamn powerful LR Crusader.
So many Bolters;P

[BlackTemplar]

and they have now been punished to embark to endless crusades to remove their sin

Hell no, not a punishment at all. Sigismund made that decision (as previously stated), and it remains the BT's honor to continue fighting campaigns in the name of the Emperor.

Hmph.

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

Hellfire bolters pattern on a Land Raider, uber cool. I'm getting one of those for my Dark Angels army (or i will when i have the cash and actually start playing again).

Been out of it for 2 years but as far as i know you can deploy them regardless of chapter.

[mpjesse363]

actually you can only deploy one regardless of chapter. the black templars can have as many as they want, but cant go over the force orginization chart. meaning i can have a max of three in any one company at a time as a black templars player, but if you play with another bt player that number doubles and so on and so forth. it gets really overwhelming for an enemy when 6 lrc"s loaded with assault termies roll down there way from different directions ,and that dosent count the assault squads and the cc killer 10 initiates with bp and ccw and 5 neophytes with shotguns following in there path, and that still dosent account for the ec and the highmarshall i have sneaking up in there rhinos lol man im gonna pop a chub.

[MacBeth]

its also been said that they out number most chapters,no one really knows how many black templar there are.

[FeloniousPunk]

Chapters are allowed no more than 1000 Space Marines, to have more is heresy. How can the BT's have more members than the other chapters?

[MacBeth]

since they never sit still and there are about a hundread crusades goin on with the black templars,those crusades take kids from the planets around them.

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

since they never sit still and there are about a hundread crusades goin on with the black templars,those crusades take kids from the planets around them.

They're supposed to number around 6000 iirc

[Dimension]

if i remember rightly, both space wolves and dark angels field more than 1000 men as well.

[FeloniousPunk]

if i remember rightly, both space wolves and dark angels field more than 1000 men as well.

Index Astartes says Dark Angels == 1000 Marines.

[mpjesse363]

it is well known that the administratum thinks that there are roughly 1000 sm per chapter but , it is also known that not even the inquisition knows the exact number.

the space marines are an enigma to the imperium not even there daily habits are common knowladge to any but the specific chapter and the god emperor.

specifically with a chapter as wide spread as the black templars who are a fleet based chapter with no homeworld.
the administratum dosent even know how many ships are in the black templar fleet or even exactly how big a fortress monistary(picture death star from star wars) is

this is because the space marines,though loyal to the emperor do not trust the imperial guard or imperial navy, they see them as potential enemies ,even though they are technically on the same side.
if there are any inquisitor players out there you know what i mean

[Cailet]

Or anyone who actually looks at the fluff. The Ultramarines are the only chapter with a faintly 'open door' policy and I bet they have a reserve somewhere.

[Anomalie]

*Counts all ultramarines in the front cover of SM codex* :jk:

[mpjesse363]

lol i tried doing that one day but it made my head hurt and the blue started blurring togeather it must have taken eavy metal weeks to do that

[Martyrium]

I think i read somewhere that the Black Templars counted around 10 000 marines and are the largest Chapter in excistence. But noone really know for sure how many they are as they are split into a large number of crusades around the Galaxy, smallest crusdes can be as low as a few marines while the largers one can feature several hundred marines with support.

And that is also the reason why they are allowed to field the amount of men they do, they are so widspread and is never assembled as a single force.

They also establish small keeps on the planets they conquer to ensure that the reqruting will continue, BT needs a high amount of reqruits compared to other chapters due to their high casulty rating.

Btw Anyone know how many man a Battle Barge can support?

[MacBeth]

many of the old legions have more than a thousand men,if you count scouts and characters then all chapters have more than a thousand marines.

[Exetus]

Actually, not really... usually the First Company INCLUDES all of your highest ranking officers. Scouts are typically the 10th squad in each company as well or come from the reserve companies. Chapters that stick to the Codex Astartes are either at 1,000 or under.

Legions, on hte other hand almost all had 10,000 men except a few such as the Thousand Sons, Salamanders and Emperor's Children.