Storm Troopers

[donut-IG]

Im thinking of getting some storm troopers. Anyone have and pro or cons or any stories or experiance with them? :sink:

[mpjesse363]

there great for adding numbers to a daemonhunters army

[Hereticus]

I enjoy playing my SM as Inquisitor armies, and I think it is great to have a few IG there. Mainly I use IG/Inquis or pure Inquisitor army and I think they do great.

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

I'd stick a few in as fodder in a SM army if i could, but as a DA player i'm not allowed. However if you can it's worth it.

[Cailet]

They are nice as distractions and roadblocks for GK forces. They are also handy if you can Infiltrate them to take out threats to an IG army. Plus they are pretty cool anyways (is it me or do the soldiers in Killzone look exactly like old model Stormtroopers?).

[bleedingbass]

are you going to get them for an IG army or a Deamon Hunters army?

[donut-IG]

Ig

[Captain Zog]

Give their Veteran sergeant an Honorifica Imperialis and deepstrike them to give your enemy's a fun surprise when he launches 5 power weapon attacks on the charge, with 9 carapace armoured friends to soak up the wounds, also they can be good for taking out small units

One of my squads took out the entire back line of an Eldar army

[bleedingbass]

If your useing them for IG then i highly recommend them. I play Cadian IG and so i can field lots of storm troopers. i use them as a front line for my infantry platoons. the better armor saves keep them alive much longer while they shield the infantry who can then fire away without much worry. plus they get two assault weapons makeing them far more mobile.

[Dutch_Wolf]

Well I like them because the nice armor save they have, but be wary not to get them in CC. But that counts for all IG soldiers except the ogryns of course :D

[MetalMilitia]

Another good thing is the being able to measure the distance you are firing before actually declaring firing.

[Cailet]

Chimera them up to enmy lines, pop out and fire 20 BS4 shots at 'em. Owee.

[donut-IG]

Well i have a catachan IG army, im prety sure i can use storm troppers

[Cailet]

Pure Catachan can't but deathworld IG can.

[Sir Guppy]

Cons - they suck, they are over priced and under powered, the guns suck, they have WS3 so are no good in CC.

Pros - You can give them a valkarie to ride in. (very cool model and its got more guns than a chimera), you can give them 2 specail weapons in the sqaud, coupled with BS4 this is quite cool, they have carapace armour (best armour you can get in an IG army), higher leaderships than normal guardsmen, very cool fluff, with the right set of wargear (see Zogs post) the vet sergeant can be quite nasty in CC, in a since then can hold themselves in CC, but dont count on them doing it for long.

Overall - I tend to take ST cos i like the fluff, and there quite cool plus i like to stick in a valkarie, in table quarter games i use em to grab quarters by dropping them off from there valkarie in far corners of the board. Im no a great fan of deep striking ST, for a start its adding expense to a already over priced unit, and deep striking usally entails getting close to the enemy at which point they will get blown away or wiped out in CC. ST arnt terribly effective either, in my experience they always seem to die quite quickly, do somethink nice and usefull and then die. but if you want to add a CC punch to your guard army take the vet sergeant and give him CC wargear, do this with your other officers, and if your lines every get attacked in CC counter attack with 3 or 4 officers armred with power weapons and you should take quite a few guys out. I tend not to take ST in competitive games because of the cost involved, a basic squad of 10 men costs 100 points, when you add all the upgrades they can be around 140-160, if you actually think about wot your getting its not much.

BS 4 guys - nice, however most are armed with rapid firing S3 Ap 6 guns - they suck
S, T and WS 3 - makes them almost usless unless your fighting tau.
Storm Troopers cant take doctrines (i think, aint got codex at hand)
In my opinion they are just to vulnerable for 140 odd points, id rather buy a battle tank, or a hellhound and heavy weapon.

o yeah caliet tactic of jumping out of a chimera with 20 BS4 if rather silly, for a start you cant get out of the chimera and fire 20 BS4 shots, as you count as moving and so can only fire 1 shot up to 12. secondly the shots are only St 3, you will wound most people on 5s or 4, and then everyone except orks still gets a an armour save, and then you would be within 12 of the enemy and thats when you die, in close combat.

conclusion - St are great for non-competitive matches were you going for a cool army. but are crap for competitive games as what your paying for isnt acutally that good and can be spent more effectivly.

anyway, thats just what I think.