Whats the complete ork storyline?

[ironcurtain]

Well I might be asking for alot but any one has the time to tell thw whole ork story from beginning to current? I think alot of people would also like this too :bandit:

[Sarcastic Jedi]

some ppl say that an ancient race created them for their war against an also ancient ancient race.

Another theory was that the snotlings used to be smart from eating some type of mushroom and helped the orks have spacetravel. But then the orcs ate all the shrooms, but these had no effect on the orks and soon the snotlings all became stupid again.

[Ramrod]

also, orks are a sentient fungus that reproduces by spreading spores.

[Paradise]

They were created during the war between The Old Ones and the Necrons.

The ork technology is very simple, if they believe it works, then it will work. They have an unconscious connection to the warp.




Red ones go faster

[Parasol]

Old Ork History - Pre Gorka Morka
The Snotling race, upon eating a cetain mushroom that grew in the caves of their homeplanet, suddenly found itself blessed with incredible intellect. They set about conquering the Stars, with the aid of their genetically engineered slave race, the Orks. Unfortunately, the mushrooms which granted them thier superior intellect grew only in the caves of thei homeplanet, and as suply lines grew thin, individual colonies were cut off and within generations reverted to idiocy.
THe Orks however grew jealous of the Snotlings, who got to eat all the tasty looking mushrooms without giving them any. THe slaves working in the caves harvesting them set about a great banquet, gorgiong themselves upon the mushrooms, until not a spore remained. The 'shrooms had no effect upon the Orks, but it did serve to destroy the Snotling Empire within the space of one generation. The Orks filled the obvious power void, and mastering the rudimentaries of Space travel (build forcefield to hold air, teleport onto passing spacehulk), they setr about on a great Waagh across the cosmos.
Oh, and Squigs were Orks that were mutated by the Tyranids.

New Ork Theory - Post Gorka Morka

During the great war between the Old Ones and the Necrontyr/C'tan, the Old Oes created many warrior races to combat their enemies. One of these was the Krork or Orks, a species bred purely for combat. They grow and thrive on violence - in fact, it makes them physically stronger. They are also born with innate skills - they all have combat skills roughly equal to a trained Imperial Guardsman from birth, and others might be innate Doktors/Meks.
Not that born is the correct word - Orks are spored. Throughout their life (and doubly after their death) Orks release Spores from their skin. These serve as scent markers to other Orks, indicating rank and allowing them to find one another over long distances, and also form the Orks reproductive ability. A spore will land, and if conditions are suitable (and they are on almost any planet but an ice-world) will develop into a mushroom above ground, and, below ground, an Orkoid. Once mature, this will dig it's way out of the earth, and go looking for more Orks.
This is not the full extent of the Orks ability - due to their double strand DNA, every Orkoid (including Gretchin, Snotlings and Squigs) has the ability to propogate not only his race but also an entire culture, including slaves (Snotlings, Gobbos), food (Snotlings, Gobbos, and Squigs) and assorted griblets after landing on a planet. As such, Orks are the ultimate survivor species - not to mention their ability to survive for several hours after their heads have been cut off!

Not to get too detailed, mind :bandit:

[Athair]

What exactly are Snotlings? I haven't seen any models for them, but from what I have gathered from fluff, they are like small Grot.

[Thalasion]

They are exactly that, and you dont get any snotling models for 40k(at least none that im aware of) so if you want some youl have to buy fantasy ones.

[FerociousBeast]

Who (or what) are the Brain Boyz? The Old Ones? And if so, what are they?

[Reabe]

I don't know where you got that from but it's probally just a nick name for a bunch of partically smart orks, I guess. The Orks wouldn't know about the old ones, cause they believe in gork and mork, the twin orkish gods.

[FerociousBeast]

According to the Ork Codices (2nd and 3rd editions), Orks have innate knowledge about certain things like mechanics and space travel and language -- and apparently some rudimentary knowledge of their history. They have legends of "Brain Boyz" who made them and used to rule them, but who died out a long time ago. But apparently before dying, the Brain Boyz genetically modified the Orks to be able to perform medical, mechanical, psychic and other abilities, which apparently the Brain Boyz were in charge of before.

So I'm wondering if the Brain Boyz are these Old Ones you are speaking of. Are the Old Ones the Slann?

[Reabe]

Slann is Warhammer Fantasy. The orks are probally talking about the uber-smart snottlings.

[FerociousBeast]

The Slann show up in 40K fluff too. They pop up in the story of the Rainbow Warriors. And as for the snotlings, the whole mushroom thing seems to have been replaced by the "post Gorka Morka" fluff. And how would belief in Gork and Mork prevent Orks from knowing about the Brain Boyz?

[Reabe]

Where's the Rainbow warrior's Fluff? I've seen the painting thing for them (A rainbow of colours on their foreheads) but i've never found the fluff for them.

[FerociousBeast]

There's actually a thread with a good link on this very forum. That's where I found out about them. Pretty interesting read, and a good website over all too.

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=29285

[TheKito]

There used to be a weapon in the Ork arsenal (I don't recall the name of it) that opened a hole in the warp and teleported a group of snotlings. This was handy as the snotlings were driven totally insane by their short ride through the warp (with no protection at all) and in quite a frenzy by the time they arrived INSIDE some poor marines Terminator armor!

[Thalasion]

That would have been the shock attack gun.

[NightBringer]

so before gorkamorka was released, the orks were created by a race of snotlings who, after comsuming a special fungus, became extremely inteligent. but the fungus ran out and they reverted to being what they are in fantasy.

then when the necrons got their own codex in 3rd ed 40k, its now come to be that the orks were created by the old ones, during their war with the necronstyr. they were originally named the krork(sp), and now infest more of the galaxy than any other race. i guess the reason why there is no mention of the war in heaven in ork fluff would be the soul reason that the orks live in the present and dont care about the past lol.

man now thats a lot of cattle for the C'Tan (once they've gotten rid of the remainning eldar and closed off the warp).

[Shnabbled]

I heard somewhere that the orcs used to be an intelligent race that degenerated over time yet kept their technical abilities.

I also heard that the only extra-galactic transmissions received from the closest galaxy were from orcs. Is it possible the orcs travelled here from that other galaxy but were somehow tainted from the long journey through the void?

Of course, there is the issue of the Tyranids. If they came from that nearest galaxy then the fluff I just mentioned would be untrue because all those orcs would have been genetically assimilated into the Hive.

Interesting indeed.

[Thalasion]

Unless orks came from the nearest on one side, nids from the nearest on another.

[Shnabbled]

^^^Good point.

[Reabe]

... Galaxy? I thought the emperor's reach extanded that of the Milky Way.

[ironcurtain]

Is there a thing called a cybork? They probably have some relation to mek boyz but I couldnt dind any info about them.

[Shnabbled]

... Galaxy? I thought the emperor's reach extanded that of the Milky Way.

Orcs sent the transmission from another galaxy.

[Kaptin Zed]

Old Ones are always Slann. In all GW products.

BrainBoyz ARE the intelligence-enhanced Snotlings.

One minor correction to the first account: The Orks WERE made smarter by the brainshrooms. Smart enough that they were able to overtake the brilliant BrainBoyz, however, in doing so, they consumed all the mushrooms until none were left. At that point, their intelligence levelled to somewhere between their original (mind-numbingly stupid) intelligence and their enhanced intelligence. (Schnabbel, this is basically what you're thinking of.)

As a side note, Orks current intelligence is on par with humans'.

For more info, go here (http://www.jonspace.com/projectork/). All the info you'll ever need about Orks.

EDIT: A Cybork is an Ork created by a Mad Dok, who has "upgraded" them with countless cybernetic enhancements, and then summarily replaced their brain with a Squig, so that they do whatever the Mad Dok tells them. In Rogue Trader, they served as a retinue for the Mad Dok, a Freebooter unit.

EDIT AGAIN: It's also possible that the Tyranids wiped out the Orks' original galaxy AFTER they arrived in this one.

[element7]

As a side note, Orks current intelligence is on par with humans'.


To expand slightly, there is a difference between Ork and Human reasoning. Orks think in a much less lateral way than humans and take a more direct approach. For example, if placed in the centre of a hedge maze and told to find the way out, a human would most likely search down passages, maybe leave markers to orient themselves. An Ork would probably hack down the hedges in the way.

Orks are also quite superstitious, a commonly held belief is that vehicles painted red travel faster than other vehicles of different colours. If a Mek built two buggies of identical design, one red, one yellow and the red one did go faster, this would be assumed by any Ork to be due to it's red colour, rather than any minute differences in construction; such as better greasing of engine parts, straighter axles, etc.

However the real trump card is that, because of the Ork's latent psychic abilities generally, if they believe something works, it works. Some ork weapons if used by non-Orks do not function, in a logical mechanical sense they are a pile of random parts assembled into the shape of a gun. In the hands of an Ork however, it's the bestest, most shootiest kustom blasta around and will happily spew out bullets, plasma, flame or whatever else the Ork thinks it should. With this in mind, because Orks believe that "red wunz go fasta", red vehicles DO, in fact, go faster.