Is using 1 HQ model in multiple armies.. lame?

[BillyBob]

Just asking this question since I want to paint up a librarian and chaplain in termie armor. Thing is, termies ain't exactly the cheapest models around at $50 for 5 :rolleyes: . Since I have tons of marines in power armor, as well as bitz, I have no problem making multiples of the HQs in Power armor.. it's just my lack of terminators that makes me ask this question. So, I want to make the models "non chapter specific" ones, as I can't afford to make 3 of each one for the marine armies I play. :weep: :argh:
So, what say you guys? :confused:

[SlickWilly]

Why the hell not? Im gonna do that- Im my Latd armey I have this dude thats an agitator. He's also a Platoon commander in a SOB inducted force and a Senoir officer in a guard armey.

[Vileblood]

must admit would be far easier if you were chaos. i have my own color scheme and basically play undivided. but as a undivided player i can temporarily align with any mark or atleast say so.

as long as your opponent knows it shouldn't be a problem. even if you have the 1 librarian and suddenly decide to make him one of the special characters it should be fine again as long as the opponent knows

[The Collector]

Long as it follows WYSIWYG somewhat closely and doesn't border on "proxying".

[Starlord]

And what's wrong with proxying in a fun game with your buddies?

[Dante]

Well it is the same model....So I wouldn't mind. And I doubt someone would care enough to say ZOMG i won't play you! LAME n00b!!!!

[zippy]

All my nid army i put random upgrades on them, I never specialise on just one coz when you field em you just write down what they got, if you field'd what you listed you'd spend way to much on models.

[Dante]

Well good luck getting into any official tournie of ANY KIND.

(really isn't to flame you...)

You can't just put "random upgrades" onto "random nids"

You have to have WYSIWYG.

Billybob here most likely follows that rule and should be fine under most circumstances. But what you just posted isn't acceptable (i wouldn't play you, if something has toxin sacs, it should be represented on the model)
:rant:

[BillyBob]

Well, the only issue I have is a librarian with a stormbolter and force sword, and a chaplain with a crozius and power fist/ chain fist (made it interchangeable)
That's it. A captain model is something I can't use universally, as it needs to be a chapter specific color. Unlike librarians who are mostly blue, and chaplains who are mostly black

[silversmith82]

I doubt it would be a problem as long as you avoided any specific markings. But, for any kind of tournament you probably will not be able to play like that. Oh, and GW charges $50 a box, that doesn't mean you can't get them for cheaper than that ;)

[SlickWilly]

eBay! Ahh, sweet sweet eBay! I got 'me Chaos Champion off'a eBay for more then half of what GW sells 'em for! Arrr.....

[MooFreaky]

All my nid army i put random upgrades on them, I never specialise on just one coz when you field em you just write down what they got, if you field'd what you listed you'd spend way to much on models.
I would have a problem with that.
As I've had situations where you only have LoS to limited number of targets. And if those targets happen to be mutated nids I want them dead. You must represent it in some manner.
I have no problem with stand ins (between my friends that is) as long as I know the mutant is represented differently.

[zippy]

yes GW tornies but they using as extortionate means to get more money out of you. Not like you don't spend enough on the game.

[SlickWilly]

Sooo.... your saying that your saving money by not representing biomorphs on you 'nids? THEY COME WITH BIOMORPH SPRUES FOR CHRISTS SAKE! How are you saving money by not putting on the biomorphs they came with?

[cfoley]

What he was saying was that he was going to stick random biomorphs on the models to make them look cool and then buy different biomorphs for each game.

This will save a LOT of money. He only needs to buy 1 squad to be able to field his five faveourite biomorph combinations.

This is definately not allowed in tournaments but if your opponents are willing to let you do it then there is no problem. I would feel that my opponent was being unreasonable if he stopped me from doing what you are suggesting.

[Ten Tigers]

A revelation for nid players...

Dont glue your mutations on your models. Assemble and paint your default models, then paint your mutations but don't permenently glue them on. Now go get some poster putty/blu tac and use that to mount your mutations.

WYSIWYG muthafucka'.....

[The Collector]

Ahh, that works.

[Dante]

Just like Tau players that blue tak weapons on crisis suits.

Not only very ugly, but very n00bish.

[MooFreaky]

If you do it right it can be hard to tell it's blu tac'd on or whatever you use.

With the biomorphs, I thought Zippy meant he just says this squad has upgrades.
He just lists the biomorphs but doesn't specify which creature(s) are the mutants. So you can't position around it, or whatever.
That i have a problem with. But no problem with just having a whole bunch of extra mutations that you don't actually use. Just as long as it's clear which model has the relevant mutations.
If it's not clear, just put a marker (like a small piece of blu tac) on the base of the relevant mutant(s).

But i've played people who try and list their various mutations w/o repersenting it in any way (so they just have an overall list of all the mutants in the squad). Then they claim the mutant(s) is always in the combat, but never dies until the last model is wiped out...

[cfoley]

I don't think you have the new codex yet. Mutants are a thing of the past.

[Ten Tigers]

Just like Tau players that blue tak weapons on crisis suits.

Not only very ugly, but very n00bish.


Pfft. Says you. With a piece as small as an adrenaline gland, you only need the smallest amount of poster putty to get it to stick.

And as far as n00bish goes, that's purely opinion. For most people it would be done because they don't want to spend two times what they already put into thier army for the slightest brood variances.

That has nothing to do with being a newbie, it has to do with not being rich.

[The Collector]

Or being more efficient. Why bring so many models to represent a huge amount of combinations?

[Akranadas]

ever heard of rare earth magnets?

[Ten Tigers]

Yeah, but they work better on vehicles. Nids are so small that putting multiple magnets in them would be an ever-loving-bitch...

[cfoley]

And if you didn't want a certain biomorph then you would be left with a flat bit where the magnet is showing.

[Dante]

Well the n00b comment goes along what someone here said a long time ago (maybe it was piccolo)...

About how you really shouldn't need to have every weapon combo readily available. That means you are at the store, trying to figure out how many tanks/infantry your opponent is going to use and change your list accordingly. That my friends is very n00bish. (more relevent to Tau Crisis suits and predators...)

[cfoley]

It's not n00bish, whatever that means.

You could argue that it is against the spirit of the game but that would be a bit of a push. I choose a differnt army for every game I play. Some of the changes I make are influenced by the type of army I will be facing and the mission I will be playing. I consider this to be part of the fun in the game and after gameing for ten years I would hardly call myself a n00b, whatever that means.

[Ten Tigers]

Consider this, you have a nice 2000 point nid list and have spent the points for all the bells n' whistles because it's a 2000 point game and you have the model count to compensate.

Now let's say somebody wants to play you but they only have a 1000 point army.

You now have two options.

a) Say fuckoff n00b, go get some more models ya' cheap bastard.

b) Redo your army list on the fly to compensate for a lower point game.



Option b can be a pain in the ass, and may leave you vulnerable by not having enough bodies on the table. So rather than walking around with two seperate armies, you just make one army that is customizable.

Sure you can always just play by proxy, but having the ability to add and remove symbiotes just makes it easier on the eyes. This isnt so much of a tactical suggestion as a financial suggestion.

[Dante]

I'm not trying to insult anyone (especially not you, cfoley)...

And I understand your points, but the idea that its a very novice tactic (if you will) has been burned into my mind.

And I can see it being usefull for just a casual day at the gaming club with variable points, or something along the same lines. I prefer the set limit points though.

Anyways the bottom line is I'm not calling anyone a "n00b", merely expressing my feelings. :hippy:

[Ten Tigers]

Anyways the bottom line is I'm not calling anyone a "n00b", merely expressing my feelings. :hippy:

Nuthin' but homie luv... :buddies: