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PhoenixX

30th Dec 05, 12:39 PM

UPDATE: Hi, I'm a moron, pleasure to meet you chap...;)
I downloaded the 78.01 forceware drivers, YES the very same drivers that Moe links to in his stickied thread above, also the very same ones that are apparently the best forceware's to use for XP (I just figured that the thread was out of date and that I would try the very newest drivers, WRONG, I should have known that the newest forceware's are usually buggy and unstable).....Anyway, I'm now running DoW in one window on one monitor (in 1280 x 1024 x 32 , with 4x AA and 4x AS truned on, I may go higher IF I need to, but 4x looks amazingly crisp and runs really well....So, in summation 81.98 drivers BAD....78.01 drivers GOOD...Pretty Cool, pretty cool indeed....

Well, I'm going to "ask" a question, and then answer it as well, but for posterity sake, AND in the hopes that a dev. or someone else can add as needed...I'm not sure who the "blame" (and I use this term loosley) lies with here...MS DirectX, nVidia Forceware, or Relic:THQ DoW:WA.

First off, I've been playing DoW since the original launch day back in September '04. First DoW, then DoW:WA, now mostly DoW:Pro, averaged out, at least 2 games a day, everyday since launch. I've been playing it on a decent machine, at highest settings, no problems (well, in really large battles it, of course, did lag, but otherwise...)....

With that said, I just finished building my new dream rig...and when I say dream rig, I'm not kidding...at all...

Specs....

Name - Phoenix Gemini -

Processor - AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Dual Core, 1000Mhz FSB, 512KB L1, 1024KB L2
Proc Cooling - Thermalright SI-120 Heatpipe Cooler
- 120mm Blue LED fan
- Artic Silver 5

MOtherboard - ASUS A8N-SLI Premium

Memory - 4GB (4x1GB - 2pair) Corsair XMS Pro Dual Channel DDR, PC3200 (400Mhz FSB)

Graphics (SLI) - 2 ASUS GeForce 7800gtx, 256MB, PCIe x16 (x8 pipes ea.)
Monitors (LCD) - 2 Samsung 940B, 19", 8ms, 700:1, 300cd/m2 (1280 x 1024)

Sound Card - Creative Soundblaster X-Fi, 7.1 channel
Speakers - Creative Inspire P7800, 7.1 channel

TV Tuner - Hauppauge PVR 500 Dual Tuner

DVD Burners - 2 Plextor P16SA, SATA, 8MB buffer, DVD+DL/R/RW, DVD-DL/R/RW, CD-R/RW, 48xCD/16xDVDmax

Hard Drives - 2 Western Digital Caviar, 250GB, 7400RPM, 16MB buffer, SATA2

Power Supply - Silverstone Strider, 600W, Quad +12V Rails, 120mm fan

Tower - Thermaltake Xaser Armor Series V8000, Black Tower
Cooling - 4 120mm Blue LED Fans (3 in Case +1 in PS, 2 in front/ 2 out rear)
2 80mm turbine (ducted over graphics card GPU/RAM heatsinsks and out of case at the rear)

Misc. Other - Lots of black braided cable sleeving
- Laser cut fan grilles
- MS Optical Mouse, Tilt Wheel, 7 button
- MS Keyboard, Digital Media Pro
- Wacom Intuous 3 Digital Tablet
- Plenty of Gaming Input Devices
-Nostromo N40
-Nostromo N50
-Nostromo N52
-MS Sidewiner 3d Pro
-MS Wheel and Pedals
-MS Voice Commander

YES, it's fast, really fast....so fast I'm not even quite sure how to quantify it just yet...YES, it's overkill, waaayyy overkill, and NO I don't care, but thanks for asking all the same ;).......YES, it's pretty, verrryyyy pretty.....YES, I used my own money, NO I'm not independently wealthy, and NO I'm not going to help anyone else purchase one (although, I would be willing to contract to build one, or more, if someone wanted to pay for it up front that is ;) )....

I'm using the newest nVIDIA WHQL forceware, nforce, and ntune drivers, DirectX9.0c, and Samsung's 940B monitor driver.

With that little (ahem) intro out of the way, I installed DoW (all three discs in only a few minutes I might add), booted up just fine, ran non-windowed AND windowed at max settings (w/ 4x AA and 4x AS just fine). Went ahead and installed WA, Go to boot up "Spooge Error: blah, blah, blah"...

I was just running it (DoW) in a window not but 5 minutes before?!?!? Now it won't run at all....what gives!?!?!?....So, just for laughs I try enabling dual GPU (SLI) support, and then try running WA....boots up just fine...only problem, why should I have to run an application using SLI (which also disables my dual monitors :( , which is something that I was REALLY looking forward to), just because I have SLI capability?

I wanted the SLI option for apps that can actually benefit from the tech., but if a game runs fine without it, with the settings that I want (again, maxxed out), it shouldn't be required, should it? Especially since I was just running my old setup on this same monitor config with no problems....

Now maybe I'm just too new to the whole dual monitor/SLI setup world, and I'm missing something here, so if I am someone PLEASE enlighten me....I guess it's not a huge loss...and/or maybe it'll be fixed by the 1.41 update (currently updating)...but if not it certainly would be nice to regain the ability to run DoW:WA without having to run in SLI (or preferrably in SLI with dual monitors, but I think that there is nVIDIA's game).

Thanks in advance for any assistance that anyone can provide, at least for now I can still run in SLI (may as well bump AA and AS to x16 and x8 then, and Full Res Textures if that's still an option)

Last but not least, here's my DXDiag Log....

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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/30/2005, 12:52:39
Machine name: PHOENIXGEMINI1
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - Award BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 2816MB RAM
Page File: 211MB used, 4491MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found. DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.
Display Tab 2: The file is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer. DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: The tests were cancelled before completing. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: DirectSound test results: All tests were successful.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were successful.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7800 GTX
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0091&SUBSYS_81D41043&REV_A1
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.8198 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 3955456 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 3536768 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-43D1-11CF-F553-DEA100C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0091
SubSys ID: 0x81D41043
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7800 GTX
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0091&SUBSYS_81D41043&REV_A1
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name:
Driver Version: ()
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: , 0 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 3536768 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-43D1-11CF-F373-D4A10EC2CD35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0091
SubSys ID: 0x81D41043
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: The tests were cancelled before completing.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Devices
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Description: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: NFORCE_VAD
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: nvapu.sys
Driver Version: 6.14.0462.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 4/13/2005 12:34:02, 414464 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: NVIDIA Corporation
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 200, 100000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 52, 48
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 48, 48
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: nvapu.sys
Driver Version: 6.14.0462.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 4/13/2005 12:34:02, 414464 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xCC0

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DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Registry: OK
Test Result: All tests were successful.

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Nostromo n52 Speedpad2
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x050D, 0x0815
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x005A
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/3/2004 22:08:44, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/29/2002 07:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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+ PCI bus
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0a03
| Service: pci
| Driver: pci.sys, 8/3/2004 22:07:48, 68224 bytes
|
+-+ Standard Game Port
| | Matching Device ID: *pnpb02f
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 8/3/2004 18:08:22, 10624 bytes

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PS/2 Devices
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+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/3/2004 23:14:38, 52736 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 21:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x050D, 0x0815
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| OEMData: 03 00 88 11 18 00 00 00
| Flags 1: 04000000
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:36, 14848 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 21:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 21:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ Microsoft PS/2 Port Mouse (IntelliPoint)
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Upper Filters: Point32
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/3/2004 23:14:38, 52736 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 23040 bytes
| Driver: point32.sys, 3/15/2005 02:45:20, 20352 bytes
| Driver: ipcoin5.dll, 3/15/2005 02:45:20, 94208 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x050D, 0x0815
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| OEMData: 03 00 88 11 18 00 00 00
| Flags 1: 04000000
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 23040 bytes
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 13:48:00, 12160 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x050D, 0x0815
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| OEMData: 03 00 88 11 18 00 00 00
| Flags 1: 04000000
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 23040 bytes
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 13:48:00, 12160 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
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DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
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Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 229.5 GB
Total Space: 238.5 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0

Drive: F:
Free Space: 235.0 GB
Total Space: 238.5 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0

Drive: D:
Model: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:54, 49536 bytes

Drive: E:
Model: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:54, 49536 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Ethernet Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_4320&SUBSYS_811A1043&REV_13\4&13699180&0&6048
Driver: n/a

Name: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0091&SUBSYS_81D41043&REV_A1\4&7ABB47A&0&0068
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 3536768 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nv4_disp.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 3955456 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 131139 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvhwvid.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 573440 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapi.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 110592 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 5402624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcpl.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 7311360 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmctray.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 86016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwddi.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvnt4cpl.dll, 6.14.0010.11014 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 286720 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccs.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 229376 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpl.hlp, 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 169507 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcplen.hlp, 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 55444 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcod.dll, 1.00.0000.0035 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 35840 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcodins.dll, 1.00.0000.0035 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 35840 bytes

Name: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0091&SUBSYS_81D41043&REV_A1\4&243D7BD0&0&0070
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 3536768 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nv4_disp.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 3955456 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 131139 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvhwvid.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 573440 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapi.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 110592 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 5402624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcpl.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 7311360 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmctray.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 86016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwddi.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvnt4cpl.dll, 6.14.0010.11014 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 286720 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccs.dll, 6.14.0010.8198 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 229376 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpl.hlp, 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 169507 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcplen.hlp, 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 55444 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcod.dll, 1.00.0000.0035 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 35840 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcodins.dll, 1.00.0000.0035 (English), 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 35840 bytes

Name: nForce4 HyperTransport Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005E&SUBSYS_815A1043&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005D&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&70
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:07:48, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005D&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&68
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:07:48, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005D&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&60
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:07:48, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005D&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&58
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:07:48, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005C&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&2411E6FE&0&48
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:07:48, 68224 bytes

Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005B&SUBSYS_815A1043&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&11
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:08:38, 26624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 19:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:08:44, 57600 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:56:44, 7168 bytes

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005A&SUBSYS_815A1043&REV_A2\3&2411E6FE&0&10
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:08:38, 17024 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 19:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio Codec Interface
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0059&SUBSYS_812A1043&REV_A2\3&2411E6FE&0&20
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:44, 4096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksproxy.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 130048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:15:22, 140928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:00, 60288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:15:50, 145792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:04, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:05:44, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvax.sys, 6.14.0462.0000 (English), 4/13/2005 12:32:42, 53376 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvarm.sys, 6.14.0462.0000 (English), 4/13/2005 12:34:22, 66688 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvmcp.sys, 6.14.0462.0000 (English), 4/13/2005 12:34:22, 937984 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\nvapu.sys, 6.14.0462.0000 (English), 4/13/2005 12:34:02, 414464 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvack.dll, 6.14.0462.0000 (English), 4/13/2005 12:34:24, 7680 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvasio.dll, 6.14.0462.0000 (English), 4/13/2005 12:34:26, 30208 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvopenal.dll, 6.14.0462.0000 (English), 4/13/2005 12:34:24, 54272 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OpenAL32.dll, 6.14.0462.0000 (English), 4/13/2005 12:34:22, 21504 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ALut.dll, 6.14.0462.0000 (English), 4/13/2005 12:34:22, 5120 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVCOAD.DLL, 1.00.0000.0017 (English), 4/4/2005 19:00:26, 32256 bytes

Name: NVIDIA Network Bus Enumerator
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0057&SUBSYS_81411043&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&50
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvnetbus.sys, 1.00.0000.0482 (English), 4/6/2005 03:22:30, 12928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvnrm.sys, 1.00.0000.0482 (English), 4/6/2005 03:22:12, 261888 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvsnpu.sys, 1.00.0000.0482 (English), 4/6/2005 03:22:02, 208256 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\bdco1.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 4/6/2005 03:19:20, 9728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\bdco1ins.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 4/6/2005 03:19:20, 9728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvconrm.dll, 1.00.0000.0017 (English), 4/4/2005 19:00:26, 32256 bytes

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0055&SUBSYS_815A1043&REV_F3\3&2411E6FE&0&40
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:42, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:44, 95360 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/29/2002 07:00:00, 3328 bytes

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0054&SUBSYS_815A1043&REV_F3\3&2411E6FE&0&38
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:42, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:44, 95360 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/29/2002 07:00:00, 3328 bytes

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0053&SUBSYS_815A1043&REV_F2\3&2411E6FE&0&30
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:42, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:44, 95360 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/29/2002 07:00:00, 3328 bytes

Name: NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0052&SUBSYS_815A1043&REV_A2\3&2411E6FE&0&09
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0050&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&08
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/29/2002 07:00:00, 35840 bytes

Name: Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_8023&SUBSYS_808B1043&REV_00\4&13699180&0&5848
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:10:10, 61056 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:10:08, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:05:44, 61824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:05:44, 60800 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 08:46:40, 6400 bytes

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1103&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&2411E6FE&0&C3
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1102&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&2411E6FE&0&C2
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1101&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&2411E6FE&0&C1
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1100&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&2411E6FE&0&C0
Driver: n/a

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DirectX Components
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ddraw.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 266240 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 27136 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 10496 bytes
d3d8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:42 1179648 bytes
d3d8thk.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:42 8192 bytes
d3d9.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:42 1689088 bytes
d3dim.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 436224 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:42 825344 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 590336 bytes
d3drm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 350208 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 47616 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 34816 bytes
dplay.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 33040 bytes
dplayx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 229888 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 23552 bytes
dpwsock.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 42768 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 57344 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:50 30208 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:50 18432 bytes
dpnet.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 375296 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:04 3584 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:04 3584 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 212480 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:50 83456 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 116736 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 21504 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 35328 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 60928 bytes
dpserial.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 53520 bytes
dinput.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 159232 bytes
dinput8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 181760 bytes
dimap.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 44032 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 394240 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:58 68608 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 76800 bytes
pid.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:05:44 35328 bytes
gameenum.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 18:08:22 10624 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 367616 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 1294336 bytes
dswave.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 19456 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 181760 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 71680 bytes
dmusic.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 104448 bytes
dmband.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 28672 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 61440 bytes
dmime.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 181248 bytes
dmloader.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 35840 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 105984 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 103424 bytes
dmscript.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 82432 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:57 473600 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 5.04.0000.3900 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:55 2676224 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.04.0091.0000 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:56 2846720 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:56 563712 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.06.0168.0000 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:56 567296 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.07.0239.0000 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:56 576000 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.08.0299.0000 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:56 577024 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.09.0376.0000 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:57 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.10.0455.0000 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:57 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:57 145920 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectInput.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:58 159232 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectPlay.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:58 364544 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectSound.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:58 178176 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.AudioVideoPlayback.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:57 53248 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Diagnostics.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:57 12800 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 12/30/2005 12:21:57 223232 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 619008 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 1227264 bytes
dxdiagn.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 2113536 bytes
mfc40.dll: 4.01.0000.6140 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 924432 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.02.4131.0000 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 1028096 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:48 22528 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:42 70656 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 59904 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.0009.1125 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 498205 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 35328 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:58 148992 bytes
msdmo.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 14336 bytes
encapi.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 20480 bytes
qasf.dll: 10.00.0000.3802 English Final Retail 1/28/2005 13:44:28 221184 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:46 192512 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:46 279040 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:46 385024 bytes
qedit.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:46 562176 bytes
qedwipes.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:26 733696 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.05.2600.2749 English Final Retail 8/29/2005 22:54:26 1287168 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.0000.3928 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:46 246302 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.0005.0053 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:58 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.0016.0003 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:58 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 4.30.0062.0002 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 120320 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 4.30.0064.0001 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 338432 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.2562.0015.0055 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 755200 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.0063.0048 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 200192 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.0064.0048 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 183808 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.10.0002.0051 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:58 154624 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:46 204288 bytes
ks.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:15:22 140928 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 130048 bytes
ksuser.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:08:04 48640 bytes
mspclock.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 17:58:40 5376 bytes
mspqm.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 17:58:42 4992 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 17:58:42 7552 bytes
swenum.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:05:44 4352 bytes
mpeg2data.ax: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:58 118272 bytes
msvidctl.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:44 1428480 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:58 30720 bytes
msyuv.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:05:44 17408 bytes
wstdecod.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:56:48 50688 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,10.00.0000.3646
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
Windows Media Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,msadds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
WMT Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,msscds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,l3codecx.ax,1.05.0000.0050
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,acelpdec.ax,1.04.0000.0000
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (Netshow URL),0x00400000,0,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmvds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmv8ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4000
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Multiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASX file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASX v.2 file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
NSC file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media source filter,0x00600000,0,2,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WST Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,wstdecod.dll,5.03.2600.2180
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,mpg4ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,2,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Overlay Mixer2,0x00400000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
.RAM file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
WMT DirectX Transform Wrapper,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
G.711 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,g711codc.ax,5.01.2600.0000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® audio software,0x00500000,1,1,iac25_32.ax,2.00.0005.0053
Windows Media Update Filter,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF DIB Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF ACM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF ICM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF URL Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF JPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF DJPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF embedded stuff Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WIA Stream Snapshot Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wiasf.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
QuickTime Movie Parser,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
XML Playlist,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
QT Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003
Indeo® video 4.4 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003

WDM Streaming Data Transforms:
Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller,0x00000000,0,0,,
Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180

Video Compressors:
MSScreen encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00100000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo® Video 4.5,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® video 5.10,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IAC2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
ACELP.net,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM),0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media Audio V1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media Audio V2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft G.723.1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

Audio Capture Sources:
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPU-401,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,5,5,,5.03.2600.2180

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,5,5,,5.03.2600.2180

WDM Streaming Mixer Devices:
Microsoft Kernel Wave Audio Mixer,0x00000000,0,0,,

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.2180
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Audio Renderers:
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DirectSound: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

WDM Streaming System Devices:
MPU-401,0x00200000,3,2,,5.03.2600.2180
NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio,0x00200000,15,6,,5.03.2600.2180

TBS

30th Dec 05, 3:23 PM

Very detailed post :p

In short: using dual monitors on your (impressive) SLI setup causes a spooge error when running WA.

My guess is that this is a glitch with the nvidia drivers, all I can recommend is that you try out each iteration of new drivers and see how it goes.

You could also try playing around with this workaround (http://forums.relicnews.com/showpost.php?p=603437&postcount=35) to bypass the spooge error.

Pjratboy

31st Dec 05, 9:42 AM

Trying this advice i have replaced the Nvidia 81.98 with 78.01, 71.69 (the last ones I had working on an older PC) and the Omega drivers..all to no effect. Still get crash to desktop after a few minutes of play.

TBS

1st Jan 06, 4:17 PM

What does a crash to desktop error have to do with this thread?

Pjratboy

4th Jan 06, 6:15 AM

"...So, in summation 81.98 drivers BAD....78.01 drivers GOOD" ...Not in my experience.

PhoenixX

7th Jan 06, 12:09 PM

More updates (I would just edit the above post, but I don't want this to be missed by doing so, so anyway.....)...

Thanks TBS, it is pretty impressive, and technically the only thing that I don't use for both work (this really is intended as a workstation first) and play is that second graphics card. Now if only I could go back to NOT having the responsibilities that allow such extravegences in life, I could find some time to actually get to PLAY with the darned thing ;)...Oh, and sorry about not encapsulating that log, my bad, thanks for taking care of it.....

Okay, a little more info (from a little more experimentation) regarding these issues. As I said in my (edited prior to first reply) above post, the solution IS the 78.01 drivers. Even when running in SLI I had BIG problems (which, in all honesty, SLI is really is NOT necessary to run DoW on extremely high settings on this system. That second card is really for Battlefield 2, FEAR, NFS: Underground 2, and the coming attractions from this year and next.

Anyway, I had some SEVERE graphics issues trying to use this setup. Tons of strange artifacts while moving the mouse cursor around, grinding and stuttering frame rates, etc. In short, it was bad. Fortunately, I fixed everything up just fine shortly after I posted the first post last weekend, unfortunately I've been too busy to get the chance to report back since then...

I had some serious issues with other games as well as DoW (BF2 just stopped loading past the splash video after a few games). So, last Saturday evening, at a frantic pace mind you (so's that I could still make a New Years LAN Party)....I uninstalled every graphics and sound driver that I could find (I had been testing drivers for both the past couple of days), cleaned up every temp directory and driver directory that I could find left behind, and did a complete re-install. nVidia forceware 78.01, latest creative Xfi package, and lastly, DirectX 9.0c (December redistribute).

Everything runs absolutely, totally, beautifully... BF2 in SLI (highest detail settings, 8x AA, 4x AS, 1280x1024x32...fluid frame rates, just frickin' awesome), everything else (that I've had time to install and play so far that is) in single card mode, but I'm pretty sure that SLI would do fine with most everything else as well, since I think that some of my issues may have been complicated by one or two incorrect file versions left laying around....

It definitely sucks to have to reboot to switch between SLI and non-SLI modes (something that the 81.98 drivers have over the 78.01 drivers, but it's not worth the stability issues), but there's always some pennance to pay for running the latest and greatest hardware.....

Oh, and thank you Pjratboy for NOT actually adding anything to this thread....if you're going to rebuff a statement then at least provide a valid (i.e. tested) argument, and also take into consideration that there could be a LOT of factors that differentiate our setups from one another (and not to be arrogant here), but assuming that you are even running anything close to what I spec'ed in my first post.

For instance, if you're running Windows Media Center Ed. then supposedly the 81.98 drivers are excellent, but since I'm sticking with XP Pro until Vista is out and stable (unless someone wants to gift me a copy of XP MCE that is :D ), that's not an option for me right now....but, uhhhh thanks for all the....uhhhh, yeah....

Hopefully, someone else can get something useful out of all this info...

Later all, off to check out that new DoW:Pro 1.5 install.....

-Shane

TBS

7th Jan 06, 12:37 PM

ok, Im assuming that the workaround I linked you to doesnt fix the spooge error you get when trying to play in SLI mode? Anyway, you seem to be more than capable of experimenting on your own - like I said before, keep trying new driver releases.

Pjrat: you were getting a crash to desktop error, Phoenixx was getting a spooge error - you had completely different problems. Your probelm is likely caused by faulty hardware or some other driver conflict. This advice was not intended to help people suffering from game crashes.

PhoenixX

9th Jan 06, 10:44 AM

Huh, my updated-update reply never posted yesterday...

Well...here's the brief of it (I'm really busy, but this is good info, my apologies about skipping the pleasentries for now ;), so here goes).....

1. Nope TBS, never tried the workaround...too messy, too sloppy, maybe on a FAR lesser machine, but (and without trying to sound like a tech snob)...NOT on this machine my good fellow, I wouldn't dare think of it ;).....

2. Yeah, I can usually troubleshoot these things myself. I've been building machines since my uncle (electronics/computer/mainframe network engineer type) started teaching me when was 14...so 16 years of experience now. I'm usually way more on top of reading up on drivers and such before a new build, but with how busy life has me these days, it took all the free time that I had (and since I myself work am in engineering and design, write, proof, draw, etc, etc. technical documents at work all day) was willing to devote to keeping up on, to just spec and assemble the hardware that I wanted to use, that I forgot about the all important driver research until it was too late (what with the build happening during the Christmas holiday week, and with plenty of family in town staying at my house and all)....

3. Anyway, I had some more time to "play" with drivers yesterday, and do some good testing last night, and here's the results...

78.01 drivers worked, but they were buggy (I did have some game crashes in the past week, and what I believe to be a memory leak), AND I had to reboot to enable or disable SLI. So, since I had some time this past weekend...after doing a complete and thorough un-intsall of all nVidia drivers and driver directories, I went ahead and tried another Forceware version, 81.85 (a slight update to the 81.84 driver package, which comes highly reviewed by a number of tech sites...see kids, taking the time to read IS a good thing, ugghhh ;)...

...anyway, I re-installed everything starting with the nVidia 6.07 AMD MoBo chipset drivers, then the 81.85 Forceware drivers, then DX 9.0c (december redistribute .exe), and VOILIA, so far all of the games that I have tested run fine in either single card, or dual card, or both modes....most actually seem to run MUCH better as was promised by the afore-mentioned articles. It appears that a memory leak that I had noticed previously has disappeared, or at least become FAR less severe...AND, last but certainly not least, I can switch modes seamlessly without having to reboot now (although, I will be watching for any instabilities that this feature may cause over the course of both long gaming sessions and those involving multiple games)...

So, in conclusion, 78.01s work (I've found rather poorly though under longer testing, but they do work), but the 81.95 nVidia Forceware drivers appear to be the current best route, for me at least....In all honesty though, the 81.98s (the original drivers that I tried) may very well be fine and I just had a bad install that first time. Either through my own fault for not cleaning up properly (although I'm almost positive that this was the first graphics driver that I tried on a fresh windows build on a brand spankin' new machine, so....) or the driver installer's fault.

So, I won't rule the 81.98 drivers out, but I honestly don't plan on doing any more driver testing for now if the 81.95s continue to work fine for me. Besides, in the detailed driver revision notes, it does say that the 81.98s are more for XP Media Center Ed. users (again with that whole reading thing ;) )....

I still can't believe how much better DoW looks on this new machine, I mean it looked really good on the old machine, but now it just has soooo much depth to the image, and the animations run soooo seamlessly that I'm seeing things that I've never noticed before after nearly 1 1/2 years of serious playing...just freakin' beautiful, oh and DoW:WA:Pro 1.5 so freakin' rocks as well....

Hope this helps someone else at some point....

Later all

Huh, apparently it wasn't not very brief in the end....oh well....

TBS

9th Jan 06, 10:48 AM

The file to edit is in the DoW directory (C:\Program Files\THQ\Dawn of War\Drivers to be precise), it is specific to DoW and wont effect anything else.

Anyway, glad you found something that kind of works for you - have fun :).

MattLees

16th Jan 06, 4:31 PM

Nice job tracking that one down!

Id just like to say that I had the same issue. I installed the latest Nvidia nforce 4 drivers (6.70), and the Forceware 2k/xp graphics drivers (81.98), and initially DOW worked ok. However after installing WA (but not patching), it gave me the fated Spooge error. I uninstalled DOW and DOW-WA and tried to install DOW on its own and then install each patch and try to run the game afterwards. After patching it up to 1.4 or 1.41 the spooge error reared its ugly head. Did something get added to the 1.4(+) patches that could have caused this?

All of the time I was doing this i didnt touch the Nvidia drivers. (<Honest> - but lets face it their as flaky as a box of Frosties anyway, and dont get me started on the Nforce 4 IDE/SATA chipset issues)

Anyway to cut a long and totally pointless story short, I did a complete uninstall of 81.98 Forceware graphics drivers, and downloaded/installed the older 81.95 ones. After the mandatory couple of reboots I can now run DOW! YAY, finally. :thumb:

So 81.98 == Spooge all the way
81.95 == Runs ok..

Cheers all
Matt.

System Spec:
AMD Athlon 64X2 4200
Corsair 1024MB x2
Asus A8N SLI S939 Nvidia nForce 4 SLI
1 x (so far) Asus Extreme 7800GT 2DHTV 256mb
Thermaltake Xaser III Case
Gigabyte 3D Galaxy Liquid Cooling System
Hiper 525W Triple fan PSU

PhoenixX

16th Jan 06, 6:17 PM

Thanks, I'm glad someone else besides me, benifitted from all that mucking about and such....

I was wondering the same thing as you Mattlees, because it didn't start happening until after I patched to the WA 1.41 update, everything was fine until then...but I started noticing problems with other games as well, so I figured that it had to be drivers....

In all honesty, with this new Rig I've had to re-install DirectX 9.0c after every new game install, because unfailingly (and for some strange reason) even when I tell the installer not to, I always seem to end up with some outdated DX files installed....

Now I've found another interesting DoW problem, actually it's a DoW:WA:Pro issue since it doesn't appear to be a problem with DoW:WA vanillia...the version that I'm running (1.5) either crashes or makes the game pretty much unplayable when I ALT-TAB in and out of the program even once....I never had this problem with 1.49 (last night was the first time I had time to try 1.5 since I installed it), haven't seen it in vanilla either, so I'm assuming that it's a WAPro 1.5 thing....

Oh well.....

TBS

17th Jan 06, 5:36 AM

Yeah, you're best mentioning that to the DoW Pro modders, perhaps they can fix it in the next release (if they can identify whats causing it).

MattLees

17th Jan 06, 6:07 AM

Cheers PhoenixX,

So far (with fingers crossed) i have no problems with DirectX 9.0c, but then again i havent put a lot of games on my new machine yet, so only time will tell.

I think as of my last post @ 23:30 last night I hadnt got the latest and greatest patch. After patching it online its now up to 1.41 and I can confirm everything still works.

I havent tried DOW-WA yet, but will do so when I get home (Its a pain in the bum having to work for a living). However I am confident that using the old(er) graphics drivers will have sorted the issue. Now ive just got to get Mafia to work as well....

Ill update this post with the results.

Matt

TBS

17th Jan 06, 6:33 AM

Mafia is a great game, but its fairly old now (three of four years?) so your best bet at playing it is to simply disable SLI when you do. Just one of your cards is more than it needs so you wont suffer any performance loss.

PhoenixX

17th Jan 06, 10:44 AM

Oh, I did TBS, that's actually the initial reason why I stopped by here last night, was to give them a detailed report of my findings. Which I've done....

I don't believe that Mattlees has more than the one 7800GT (based on his specs in his post), but yeah, i wouldn't think that one would even want/need to run that with SLI.

Really, the only reasons that I even built an SLI system are...

1. As a "Spec Rig" to show off at Lan parties and such (in the hopes of peaking potential customers interests, which it's already done), and...

2. To run Battlefield 2 maxed, Half Life 2 maxed, NFS: Underground 2 maxed, and now FEAR maxed as well....

I'm fairly certain that nothing else (that I own at least) can really take advantage of SLI at this point, but I am psyched to see what an SLI setup can do with next-gen games like "Company of Heroes" and "Unreal Tournament 2007" (well, any Unreal Engine 3 game to be exact).

TBS

17th Jan 06, 11:38 AM

ah, you're right - he only has one card...in that case Mafia should run ok without any tweaking.

As to your rig - I'd love to see FEAR maxed out (perhaps on a projector...), I downloaded the demo but my aging 9800 PRO struggled on it. I'll probably pick it up from a bargain bin in a year or so when I have a new rig and enjoy it at full settings :)

CoH and the U3 engine are looking very sexy as well...

PhoenixX

17th Jan 06, 5:20 PM

You know, to be brutally honest, for as well as some things are done in FEAR, others are severly lacking....

The AI is stunningly intelligent the vast majority of the time (especially on the harder skill levels), and is probably the most challenging FPS AI that I've ever seen, nothing really negative to say here....

The use of lighting and shadows is really spectacular, except for your personal shadow where the technique used for the real time projection of your own shadow does not mesh very well with atmospheric shadows, but other than that it's stunning.

Most of the effects are amazing, but some of them are so over the top (like the fire) that they don't look right, and other things (like the water) aren't nearly as realistic looking as HL2 or BF2. To be honest fire and water have long been two of my benchmarks for a great looking engine (two things that the DoW engine does an excellent job at, thankfully), and they're two places where the effects in this engine fall a bit short IMHO.

Then there's the geometry, I'm not quite sure what someone was thinking when they were doing the geometry optimization. Everything looks so darned flat, round bars aren't even octagons in most places, they are square. I have to be brutally honest, if you can't get your geometry looking right, how can you expect to create an immersive game engine? AND how can you do geometry this poorly when most everything else is done so darned well? The worst part is that most of the geometry problems are to do with static meshes (or what I believe to be static meshes, or at least should have been done with Static Meshes) that could easily have been swapped out at some point during developement, with higher poly models. Not very professional looking IMHO.

Last but not least, the code optimization needs some serious improvement as well. I Love good code optimization, and when you see it in action, you know it. Every once in a great while, this engine can bring even my Rig (and others with similar systems) nearly to it's knees (31-32 FPS) when maxed out. Most of the time my average is +/-60FPS, with my max somewhere above 115FPS, but still....if HL2 and BF2 can't do that to this machine, and this game is really no better in terms of graphics (especially considering the geometry issues) and/or scale than either of those, than something isn't being optimized properly on the coding end....

It's still a fun game though, definitely worth playing, at night, no lights, with 7.1 surround sound (prepare to look over your shoulder a LOT)....:)

But to be fair, after playing HL2 (HL2 looks almost as real, as real life iself, on this setup, no joke) and BF2, and DoW:WA:Pro, and also seeing what is on the horizon (especially Company of Heroes and anything using the Unreal Engine 3), has spoiled me considerably in regards to FPSs, just like DoW has spoiled me considerably in regards to RTSs.....;)

I can't wait for later this year, only problem is I think that I'm going back to school yet again this fall (MBA program), so right as everything starts coming out, I'll running between working full time and taking classes (probably full time as well), oh well, life's never perfect is it?.....:)

Oh, and sorry to get so off topic here, but at least it's my own thread ;)....

-Shane

TBS

17th Jan 06, 5:29 PM

My main attraction to FEAR was that it is supposed to be very atmospheric (if it will make me look over my shoulder with surround sound on then thats a good thing :)). Sometimes I want a game thats just simple fun and sometimes I want one that will drag me in deeper - something that games still dont do often enough for my liking.

I never got into the original HL but the HL2 graphics do look gorgeous - thats another one Im saving for when I can get round to trading in this machine for something a little whizzier :p

and yes - school/etc sucks...going to uni has severely cut down my gaming time (though I probably spend more time hanging around these forums than I should as well ;)).

MattLees

18th Jan 06, 8:26 AM

Ok as of last night I installed WA on DOW, and tested it, then performed an online update. It worked in both cases. I then proceeded to get heavily involved in a game... That's one of the reasons I didn't post a reply earlier. Damn you all for making such a good and addictive game - and then producing add-ons!

Before getting too carried away however, I did manage to have another play with Mafia. I followed the same procedure as with DOW, that is research - install - test - patch - test and repeat. But alas still no luck. Worse still is the fact that lots of other people have the same issue, but no real solutions seem apparent. I guess its age is starting to show. Oh well never mind, plenty of other decent games out there.

I do have only one 7800 card. I was slightly over budget as it was and couldn't bring myself to part with another £200+vat. Im impressed with what ive got, in a few months I might pick one up and see what it can do extra. That was one of the reasons that I went for the SLI, as it gave me an element of future proofing. I currently get 5x performance increase on my old 9600pro, and XP2000, 512Mb system. When I last checked HL 2 ran in 1280x1024 with everything at max, and COD 2 was at 1600x1200 so im more than happy :)
I will have to go back and try fear. I installed it on my old system and was somewhat shocked to see that it used up 1Gb of ram and only ran in the lowest res. It was a painful experience, and I agree it must have been written really inefficiently. Still everyone nowadays seems to follow that same design philosophy, in that we have processor cycles to burn, and everything will be twice as fast in six months, so why bother? Its sad, especially so if your a software engineer.

Anyway lets end this reply on my main bugbear and reason for my finding this thread in the first place - Nvidia's inability to produce stable hardware and drivers has really annoyed me. Ive been messing around with computers for a long long time, and Ive never seen anything quite as bodged as their current line up. When you spend this kind of money on a system you shouldn't have to spend two weeks researching how to fix fundamentally broken things. I would recommend people stay away from nforce 4 chipsets for a few more months yet, or at least wait until Nvidia accept there are issues. A good nforce chipsets link would be Nvidia's own forums : (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showforum=34)

TBS

18th Jan 06, 8:31 AM

What precisely happens when you try to run Mafia - if you only have one card then there isnt the issue of SLI to mess things up, Mafia is a sufficiently recent game to be able to run on XP happily enough.

A solution could be to use compatibility mode - try compatibility with all the older windows versions and see what happens.

MattLees

18th Jan 06, 8:41 AM

The problem with Mafia is that you get a window saying it cant run because a debugger is running - which i know there isnt.
You only get this message if you set it to run in a window, because if its full screen it just stays black and you pretty much have to reset to get out of it.
Like you I was suprised it didnt work. I hadnt played it in a long time due to my girlfriend borrowing it, but I know I had it running on XP before. I wonder now if it could be something to do with SP2. I uninstalled Mafia on my old machine some time ago, but could reinstall it. That would rule out/ incriminate SP2.
Compatibility mode might be a good plan, that is something I hadnt thought about. Luckily I have a spare monitor and space on my desk.. I can see a dual install on new and old machines tonight. It might give me some clue to the culprit.
Cheers.
Matt

TBS

18th Jan 06, 11:37 AM

Try compatability mode first.

Installing on your old PC wont really tell us whats causing the problem on this one (unless you install it, it works and then you install SP2 and it stops working).

MattLees

18th Jan 06, 3:25 PM

Wahoo problem solved! :banana:

I tried the compatability mode settings and a whole bunch of other things, and they didnt make any difference, so I hit the web again, this time looking for slightly more vague references. I found one for a completely unconnected game. It appears that there is some third party software hidden in a lot of games that checks for debuggers running in memory to try and stop it being hacked. Anyway it seems that older versions of this software have a bug in that detects some more modern motherboard / graphics card drivers as being debugging tools.
One solution mooted was to go to gamecopyworld and get a no cd patch, as it is generally here where the software resides. This is what ive done and it works like a treat

Gotta love the web!
Cheers all.