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FallenSoloSLS
12th Apr 06, 7:18 PM
Here's the results from the Network Test:
Sending udp packet from 6112 to 6112
Received from /66.134.89.225:6112 to 6112 "NAT detected"
udp port 6500 Receive timed out
udp port 27900 Receive timed out
udp port 27901 Receive timed out
udp port 29910 Receive timed out
Received from /66.134.89.225:38196 to 6667 "tcp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:38197 to 28910 "tcp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:38198 to 29900 "tcp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:38199 to 29901 "tcp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:38200 to 29920 "tcp pass"

I've forwarded all the ports on my router appropriately, and got the result. Then I just set my PC as a DMZ and got the same damned thing.

It looks like the UDP required by DoW is working, but the UDP ports for Gamespy are hung up somehow.

I've got a Lynksys WRT54G router, but I've disabled its wireless capabilities and everything is hardwired into the router.

I'll go into DoW and see ping numbers on about 50% of the games in the lobby, but can only join some games. The rest of the time, I get some network error message. I've even been in a game lobby waiting for the game to start when I get kicked into the menu screen for DoW.

I'm using Zone Alarm Free Version as my software firewall, and DoW has full access.

In my router's help files, it says that in order to forward ports properly, I need to disable DHCP (whatever that means). So I manually configured my PC's network adaptor to go to a static IP and set up my router accordingly. . I just followed these instructions:

The easiest way to test things is to connect through an ethernet set up - this allows you to eliminate problems more easily. You can connect wirelessly later if you need to.
After connecting by Ethernet, and setting up your internet connection through the normal wizard, try the following:
Go into the Router, and set it's LAN IP address to 192.168.2.1, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0
Now go to your PC (I assume there is just one?) and set it's IP address to 192.168.2.10, subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Set the default gateway, and the DNS server on the PC to 192.168.2.1
click ok, and get out of the config settings for TCP/IP.

Which I found here (http://www.pcguide.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-31024.html)

Disabling the router and connecting directly to the cable modem is not an option, as I've got other PCs on this network that are acting as storage servers. . . I've also got Earthlink True Voice, so no router=no telephone. :/


A bit more information: I turned "Logging" on on my router and got this for "Outgoing":


LAN IP-------------Destination URL/IP------Service/Port Number
192.168.1.106-------------66.134.89.225------www
192.168.1.106-------------212.150.236.80------www
192.168.1.106-------------66.175.18.143------www
192.168.1.106-------------212.150.236.80------www
192.168.1.106-------------66.175.18.143------www
192.168.1.106-------------69.50.184.26------www
192.168.1.106-------------216.32.95.42------www
192.168.1.106-------------216.32.95.42------www
192.168.1.106-------------216.32.95.42------www
192.168.1.106-------------216.32.95.42------www
192.168.1.106-------------216.32.95.42------www
192.168.1.106-------------216.32.95.42------www
192.168.1.106-------------216.32.95.42------www
192.168.1.106-------------216.32.95.42------www


For the incoming log I got:
Source IP-------------Destination Port Number
66.134.89.225-------------6667
66.134.89.225-------------28910
66.134.89.225-------------29900
66.134.89.225-------------29901
66.134.89.225-------------29920

TBS
15th Apr 06, 5:24 AM
Firstly, disable Zonealarm entirely.

If that doesnt help then reset your router to factory settings and start again.

As to conecting your PC directly to the cable modem: this isnt something we suggest as a long term solution - its simply something we get people to try to test their internet connection. If you get the same net test result with the router taken out of the equation then you know that you had probably got the router set up correctly and the problem lies with your ISP, cable modem or software on your PC.

FallenSoloSLS
16th Apr 06, 8:09 PM
Okay, I connected to the cable modem directly, and then disabled ZA and it all worked fine.

W/ the direct connection to the modem and ZA on, it did not. Then I set the security to "Medium" and everything appeared to work well.

I've set up my router, and my PC seems to be assigned 192.168.1.105, which seems strange because I've sent the router to assign the first IP address at .100. In any event, it stays at .105 after mulitple restarts, so I'm guessing it's happy there and won't get it's IP reassigned and thus mess up all the port forwarding.

In any event, I've forwarded all the ports on my router as instructed, and the only thing I'm getting now is:

Sending udp packet from 6112 to 6112
Received from /66.134.89.225:6112 to 6112 "NAT detected"
Received from /66.134.89.225:6500 to 6500 "udp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:27900 to 27900 "udp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:27901 to 27901 "udp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:29910 to 29910 "udp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:40839 to 6667 "tcp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:40840 to 28910 "tcp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:40841 to 29900 "tcp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:40842 to 29901 "tcp pass"
Received from /66.134.89.225:40843 to 29920 "tcp pass"

I get that even with ZA turned off. Oh, and I also get it when I set the PC to DMZ through the router.

I've definately got Port 6112 forwarded w/ the application named "DawnofWar" (which I don't think makes a difference).

Will that "Nat Detected" interfere with my gaming?

I went into the lobby briefly and all appears to be okay, but I'm still getting about 50% of the pings as "----", and I've not tried to game much as I've just gotten back from a trip to my parent's.

Also, I did get kicked out of the lobby due with the network error message.

Is this a Gamespy issue? I'm suspecting it is.

TBS
17th Apr 06, 7:55 AM
yeah I think thats probably gamespy.

FallenSoloSLS
17th Apr 06, 8:44 AM
Then I'll not obsess over the "NAT Detected" thing.

But what does that result mean?

TBS
17th Apr 06, 9:35 AM
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/N/NAT.html

basically it allows all the computers on your network to use the same internet IP address.

FallenSoloSLS
17th Apr 06, 11:21 AM
Okay, I think I get it. So when I get a result of "NAT is detected" does that mean that there is interference with the information that's supposed to go to my PC? Or is it actually getting through?

Also, if my PC is part of a NAT, should I manually set my PCs network IP address? I've found some instructions on it, and it looks pretty detailed, but not overwhelming.

I'm looking at this page. (http://forum.portforward.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Knowledge;action=display;num=1116577357) it seems pretty straightforward. . .

TBS
17th Apr 06, 3:34 PM
That page details setting up IP addresses within your network, that isnt the issue here.

When your cable modem connects to your ISP they assign you an IP address (which may or may not be static), however - you want to connect multiple computers to the internet...the NAT is how your router allows multiple computers to connect to the internet using the single IP address provided by your ISP.