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Jurgensmelta
31st May 06, 10:29 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4766217.stm


A white bear with brown patches shot dead in northern Canada is the first grizzly-polar hybrid found in the wild, DNA tests have confirmed.

Canadian wildlife officials say it is the offspring of a male grizzly bear and a female polar bear.

There have long been stories of oddly coloured bears living in regions where the two territories overlap.

But until now, grizzly-polar hybrids, dubbed "grolar bears" or "pizzlies", have been found only in zoos.

The hybrid bear was shot last month by an American big game hunter on Banks Island, Northwest Territories, Canada.

His guide, Roger Kuptana, noticed the creature had the long claws and slightly humped back of a grizzly bear and thought it might be a hybrid.

The body was seized by officials, who sent a DNA sample for tests which confirmed its unusual origins.


There are behavioural differences between the species, including timing of mating seasons, that make hybrids highly unusual
David Field, Zoological Society of London

"It's something we've all known was theoretically possible because their habitats overlap a little bit and their breeding seasons overlap a little bit," said Ian Stirling, a biologist at the Canadian Wildlife Service in Edmonton.

"It's the first time it's known to have happened in the wild."


my favorite part...we found this rare unseen animal......and we shot it in the friggin head!!!

of course! :wave:

The Collector
31st May 06, 10:32 PM
Slightly old news?

Jurgensmelta
31st May 06, 10:36 PM
saturday.

reki
31st May 06, 10:49 PM
saturday almost three weeks ago :p

"We" didn't shoot it in the head, by the way. Some American big game hunter did, which probably wouldn't be particularly out of character for him.

Moe
1st Jun 06, 1:27 AM
Must be weird bear week. Apparently a bear whose species was thought to be extinct for about 170 years was found wandering around in Germany a few days ago.

Nurizeko
1st Jun 06, 2:02 AM
The Bears have been in hiding, secretly planning the downfall of the sapien race that currently believes itself dominant.

:rolleyes:

Good stuff though, what with us whiping out species its nice to hear good stories like a species bouncing back or a new one being descovered, or found to not be extinct after all.

FatalTheRabbit
1st Jun 06, 3:21 AM
Probably more like the people who would know what they're looking at don't actually get out to look much.

MooFreaky
1st Jun 06, 4:12 AM
The whole concept of it must be rare... so let's shoot it just doesn't seem logical in my mind.
I know it's a cultural difference, but the whole killing for the sake of killing just makes my skin crawl.

One of the only hybrids in existence just got killed so it could be a trophy.

Jurgensmelta
1st Jun 06, 4:15 AM
it was sarcasm moo.

you've seen full metal jacket right?

"I wanted to see exotic Vietnam, the jewel of Southeast Asia. I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture and ... kill them. I wanted to be the first kid on my block to get a confirmed kill."

kind of made me think of that.

MooFreaky
1st Jun 06, 4:19 AM
it was sarcasm moo.
huh? What was sarcasm?

Jurgensmelta
1st Jun 06, 4:21 AM
that it was rare and should be shot.

SquidDNA
1st Jun 06, 5:16 AM
It's apparently legal to hunt polar bears but not grizzlies, or such. He was hunting one but not the other, and then there was a big problem when it turned out he might have killed the wrong bear etc. etc. Basically he had no idea what it really was at the time.

Dimension
1st Jun 06, 5:34 AM
which in itself is quite a statement. why the hell do they let people run around toting guns, killing animals if they have no fucking clue what they're shooting at in the first place? "Antlers, must be some reindeer or sumtin! Ima kill dat fer muh trophay shack!"

Or in this case "Oi, I gots no clue what this thingy 'ere is, Ima kill dat n find out!"

Starfisher
1st Jun 06, 5:38 AM
Uh.. no, this case was, "Hey, a polar bear! It's white, the right size and in the right area!" BLAM

He knew it was a white bear that looked a whole lot like a polar bear. Only when it was dead and they got to poking at it did they see that it had some unusual characteristics. While there are hunters who blast at anything, no one lets them do that - it's illegal and most hunters look down on such antics.

Unk
1st Jun 06, 1:02 PM
I'm guessing it was more a case of "Hey, is that a polar bear. Wait a sec, it looks brownish. Best not kill it then. But it really looks like a polar bear and... ahhh nevermind, IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!"

*bang*

Anyway, they have these things in zoos? I didn't know it was legal to crossbreed zoo animals like that.

SquidDNA
1st Jun 06, 1:07 PM
Maybe not in scientifically backwards England.
Oh, wait.