Does honesty pay off?

[[Vertigo]]

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Give Us All Your Money



Would you give them all your money simply because they asked you? It is a simple website that gets straight to the point. If you are worried about security of thier servers:

http://www.giveusallyourmoney.com/security

Rest assured that even though we don't subscribe to the paradigm that is the root authority certificate system, your credit card information IS BEING ENCRYTPED before being sent to us. No one outside our orginization will get it, and we will use it ONLY for the express purpose of taking all your money.

[Starblade]

I wonder how many card numbers they'll actually get.

[FatalTheRabbit]

What does this have to do with honesty?

But yeah, it does pay off because liars feel like shit losers whether they admit it or not.

[n0z3k1ll3r]

I imagine there will be someone out there who actually fills that in.

[[Vertigo]]

Well, Fatal, they are not trying to feed you a line about trying to help starving orphans with cancer/aids in poverty stricken China. They just want all you money that's all.

[hiddensmoke]

Well in this situation honesty will not work. Although I admit it has a high novelty value.

[Unk]

Damn, those pesky Nigerians are starting to lose the touch.

[Holy Chaos Ryu]

Short version of a real life event:

Me: "I got so drunk at this party I was out of control, and I kissed another girl. I don't even remember it, but I am still so incredibly sorry, I really do love you, I won't even drink at parties anymore. Can you ever forgive me?"

Gilfriend: "No" ( comence many tears from her, and then after she hit me in the nuts, from me aswell).

Me: *single :(*

To answer your question, NO!

[ceejayoz]

I'm tempted to go get a card with a $10 limit and use it there.

[Retroboy]

ENCRYTPED [sic]Apparently so...

-- Retro

[AceRimmer]

Assuming your cause is a fair/just/means to an end for all humanity cuase, then honesty would surely help.

[Bobacanoosh]

discretion is the better part of honesty.

Some things are good to talk about truthfully to build your reputation as being trustworthy and to keep them from turning up later.

Some things should be avoided or flat-out denied to keep you from ending up like Ryu.

I also am tempted to get a card with a ridiculously low limit, but am far to lazy to actually do it. I think they would do better with a paypal link and a "give us money" header instead. All the joke amounts people put in might actually add up.

I smell a money-maker

[TheDeadlyShoe]

Honesty is a funny thing. I find people are dishonest about little things, and dishonest about really important things, but generally can be relied upon to be honest about just important things. I can't say I'm all that much different. I try my best to be honest.

Then there's people who just don't care about honesty, and indifferently use truth or fiction, whichever serves their purposes better.

I also subscribe to the view that the truth (or at least the essential truth) is easier to keep straight than lies.

[AceRimmer]

People also don't get really cheesed off if you come straight out with the truth, rather than delaying it with a pack of lies. But then anybody over the age of 10 could tell you that.

At least this site is honest :p

[Sajuukar]

I'll take your money if you want me to...

[General Blaze]

I wonder who'll actually comply to what that dude wants? :p

[Kovac]

Honesty is its own reward

[Question]

I am laughing my pants off at this site.

[Tails]

That is so tempting. I wish there was a safe way to experiment with that.

[Brian]

well tails you could always try it out and see how it goes.

Seems safe enough for the rest of our accounts. :angel:

[Nurizeko]

I hate lies and lying, but i find fairly often ussually small lies I have to make to protect myself or people I like/love, I cant stand the lies but I just have to live with them.

I've got a couple of Mid-level fibs/secret's, nothing like murder, but enough to make me think "aww ffs goddam life blows" when I'm reminded of them, infact all these lies are basically to do with my girlfriend and her expectations of me, I'm just hoping when were a middle-aged married couple with little nooblets, she will take my revelation of my over-selling myself with good humour.

And i will have to think of ways of making sure i dont have to demonstrate my "skills" with a snowboard in the near future. :lol:

[Mogolov]

Honesty only works when the person who is hearing it, is ready for the truth.


When they dont want to hear the truth, honesty can get you into a bad place.


My missus still refuses to speak to me.

[LoCo]

Short answer is: No.

Honesty does not pay. If it did, the world would be a better place.

Having said that, I'm not really sure where I stand on actually being honest. Sure, it can get you into less trouble, but lying can get you out of trouble completely. There is also the fact that some lies are so stupid that if people actually believe them, they kind of deserve the lies.

However, lying for lying sake is not productive, and it is stupid. Too many lies will get you caught. You also need to know the right lies to tell, and the right time to tell them. Being good at telling the truth is easy, being good at lying is hard.

As we all know, the harder the work, the bigger the reward. Since lying is harder, it's easy to assume that it has the bigger reward. Which, if done right, is true. Still ... the hardest part of lying is knowing when not to lie, and when to lie badly.

It's a complex game, but lying well isn't only about telling good lies, it's also about telling bad ones. There is a time and place for everything, and lying doubly so.

Look at it this way. The truth hurts. There is no such saying about lies.

[Mogolov]

^^^touché!!

Prime example, i work for an ISP, and recently we introduced peer2peer throttling across our network.

Unfortunately we have a number of re-sellers who have sold the product under the intention that there is no throttling and no contention.

We didnt tell the reseller we're doing this and he's called up screaming and blinding that we've screwed them.

I had to lie through the teeth that we havent implemented anything whilst we really have.

If i had told the truth, the guy would have flipped even more and possibly threatened us with legal action as we havent informed him, which, we are contractually tied to do.

[[Vertigo]]

"... but lying can get you out of trouble completely. "

Or something for almost nothing. I am quiet sure some people here have inflated stories/resumes/accomplishments to fit their own ends.

[Obtuse]

I think that's the thing with lying, it's not harder than telling the truth, it's easier, because you use it to avoid the consequences of something. Yeah, maybe down the line the person may be in a different position and will see the funny side but I feel learning to face up to your responsibilities is more important as a person and as a company than it is to get away with something that you shouldn't by lying. Maybe in the previous case the company will now change what made that lie neccesary, but if the guy ever finds out he was lied to he's going to have far more reason to be justifyably mad

[Question]

^^^touché!!

Prime example, i work for an ISP, and recently we introduced peer2peer throttling across our network.

Unfortunately we have a number of re-sellers who have sold the product under the intention that there is no throttling and no contention.

We didnt tell the reseller we're doing this and he's called up screaming and blinding that we've screwed them.

I had to lie through the teeth that we havent implemented anything whilst we really have.

If i had told the truth, the guy would have flipped even more and possibly threatened us with legal action as we havent informed him, which, we are contractually tied to do.

That is so wrong.

[Nurizeko]

^^^touché!!

Prime example, i work for an ISP, and recently we introduced peer2peer throttling across our network.

Unfortunately we have a number of re-sellers who have sold the product under the intention that there is no throttling and no contention.

We didnt tell the reseller we're doing this and he's called up screaming and blinding that we've screwed them.

I had to lie through the teeth that we havent implemented anything whilst we really have.

If i had told the truth, the guy would have flipped even more and possibly threatened us with legal action as we havent informed him, which, we are contractually tied to do.

....I think thats one lie you shoulda kept to yourself....

Thats not only wrong, its illegal.