1.50 problem

[TimHamm]

I installed 1.50 but it doesn’t change anything from 1.41 the only thing that changed was it says "DOW engine 1.50" I cant reinstall the patch because it says "You have already installed this patch!" or something like that, and I cant install 1.41 either it says the same thing! The game play isn’t messed up or anything but everything’s the same as 1.41!Would I need to reinstall the game or something? :help: note: Im talking about WA.

[Adonis]

Ok, you people really need to start posting in the correct forums. Otherwise threads are going to start getting locked instead of moved.

[Garbo]

Ummm, you might have to bite the bullet and do a clean install. Was the patching process interupted or did it mess up or something?

[Hopkins]

I seem to have the same problem. Last night I played Eldar again for the first time since installing 1.5. Firstly, Guardians did not seem to be any better at hand-to-hand via space marines. Secondly, only three Rangers came out when first built - I forgot to check what the cost was unfortuantely. Thirdly, the Vypers came out *without* the Rocket Launcher included - I had to research and pay for that as usual.

The patch only took a few minutes to install on my partition with about 7GB free space - I was expecting it to take ages given some people's reports. The title screen says "1.5" and the CD is no-longer required in the drive, so something has changed. But the units do not seem to have changed!

Very odd.

[TBS]

TimmHamm: are you playing DoW instead of WA? After the patch installs it runs DoW not WA.

Hopkins: if the game was running while the patch patched then this kind of thing can happen, try reinstalling.

Both: to test to see if you're installed properly simply play a couple of games online - if the patch didnt apply correctly then as soon as you start a game with someone who is correctly patched you will get a sync error. No error means you are fully patched up.

[Hopkins]

TBS, thanks for your reply.

The game was definitely not running when I patched it. I played a couple of three player games last night, and one of them suffered from terrible stuttery lag. The recorded time of the game was 15 minutes but it took more like 30-40 minutes of real time. Could this have been the problem?

I will do some more tests and try a reinstall then report back here.

[TimHamm]

TBS: Im running WA,on the computer that I play it online the patch is installed fine and it works,the other computer that doesnt have online(but it has alot of mods) the patch doesnt work, maybe its cause of the mods? :confused:

[TBS]

Hopkins: 1.5 has caused lag problems for some people, check out this thread (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=97514) where steps are being taken to identify the problem.

If you were able to play online games (even though they lagged) then it seems likely that the patch is installed properly for you. The easiest things to check for gameplay wise would be the SM Rhino (2000 HP in 1.5) and the IG psyker (entirely new ability - curse of the machine spirit).

TimmHamm: it could be mods, although so far it seems that most (if not all) mods are continuing to work in 1.5 (if they worked in 1.41 of course). You could certainly try doing a clean reinstall on that machine.

[Sekhura]

I was playing with Hopkins in our lagged 15 mins game that took more like 60 mins.

I have played a couple of unlagged games with the "1.50 engine" since so I am suspecting the problem was with one of the players' connections

Ok a couple of things I have identified:

1. On a clean install I still only get less than 4 rangers per squad. I am starting to suspect that the balance changes only perhaps affected WA? (I'm installing that as we speak to test).

2. THQ in another thread have confirmed that there is a typo in the patch notes. Rangers should now be in squads of 4 (4 x 40 requisiton) costing 160, not 5 as it actually says in the patch notes.

regards,

Sekhura

[Sekhura]

I can confirm that the 1.5 balance changes are only for Winter Assault. I wish that had been made clearer.

Another interesting note: no lag when playing in WA games, but frequent stuttering in many DOW games.

[Hopkins]

Oh dear, that is odd. So, when did DoW patches stop changing things for people who haven't bought WA?

[TBS]

Yes - balance changes only apply to WA (WA being balanced completely differently to DoW - eg horrors are anti inf in DoW, anti armour in WA, CSM have heavy weapons in DoW, not in WA, etc etc). This is the case with patch 1.41 and 1.5.

However, bug fixes do apply to both games.

[TimHamm]

I looked at the patch installer again, it said something like "if you have any thrid-party tools installed please reinstall and try again" would the 1.41 modding tools count as that?
:confused:

[TBS]

The modding tools arent third party - they are produced by Relic.

[Hopkins]

Thanks for your help TBS & Sekhura - at least I understand what's going on now!