Sherman stronger then Panzer IV ?

[evya135]

I noticed something really disturbing after installing the patch....
first of all, its great, i can now play the game on full graphics and it runs smooth... i can see shadows ffs !
i was so excited i ran through the tutorial again and when i got to the armour tutorial and that guy said "get the sherman behind the panzer bla bla bla"
i saw the panzer shooting my front, and i shot his and the sherman kicked his ass.
I didnt even went to his rear..... this is really weird because the panzer needs to have better armour then the sherman... before the patch in a 1v1 situations without micoring the sherman to the panzers rear you wouldve lose.... but now... sherman > panzer
Its not balanced and not historicly correct (or is it ???)

[Firesparks]

I think the tutorial is rigged in the player's favor (naturally)

[FatalTheRabbit]

Yes, the tutorial is just to show you how armor works, it's not actually how the units are.

[Frosty]

I think the tutorial is rigged in the player's favor (naturally)

Yeah. The engine hit is inevitable, as it is a scripted event. After the engine hit, the Panzer IV will blow up after 2 shots.

In a multiplayer match, the sherman ist actually pretty equal to a Panzer IV.

[jayze302]

its all scripted events in the tutorial

[Demonic Spoon]

A Sherman A4 (In CoH, it's the sherman with the upgraded cannon) was actually a match for a Panzer IV though.

[Skyward]

(1.17)I think the sherman front armour should be toned down and maybe a small prize cut? ATM they are too powerfull with gun upgrade and field repairs + allied war machine.

At least that's my opinion from my experience.

[CorsairX]

Skyward, Demonic Spoon i agree with both of you

[Demonic Spoon]

Well that's not to say it would beat it outright. By "be a match for" I don't mean "mop the floor with it".

but yeah, before the Sherman A4, Allied armor was piss poor vs axis armor.

[MasterToad]

Seriously how many times does this have to be said?

GAMEPLAY > REALISM

For example, Volksgrenadiers weren't even used as normal troops, however Relic had to put in a lowest tier of infantry for game balance. Lord knows how many threads here pop up with crap about realism or nitpicking at the historical accuracy.

Its a game ffs, get over the fact that Shermans dont beat Panzers. There is a reason for that and its gameplay balance.

[Demonic Spoon]

GAMEPLAY > REALISM

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5038/3301603yk2.jpg

It is optimal, however, to have both, and both is usually achievable.

[CorsairX]

thats right and it was more difficult with dow and they did it nevertheless -> see dowpro