how do you treat noobs? [Archive]

EvilKillaruna

25th Aug 06, 3:44 AM

If they need help, then they should visit this forum and READ SOMTHIN. And THEN they should jump into deep water (MP) IMO :D.

thats why i help noobs and play with them to give them experience.

Yes, typing and playing at the same time, I love it :D. I had try it few times and I don't want now. :p

:alarm: ======================
BTW: I remember funny issue: after jump from DoW into WA I made new account and:

-I've been often kicked from games coz "OMG, NOOB! KICK HIM!"
-Later I've been often kicked from games coz "OMG PRO! KICK HIM!" (o,O)

Humans are wery strange ....

Necaradan666

25th Aug 06, 3:44 AM

Yeah that other thread pissed me off too, I really hate elite types, I only play games casually and hearing that kind of anti-noob trash wants to make me dish out headbutts. So basiclly I don't bother to play online much. However the reverse is also true if someone is not a noob, geting to grips with the game, but just a supreme retard too dumb to live they also probably deserve a headbutt ...WHACK!

Guest162

25th Aug 06, 3:46 AM

exactly you were all noobs once how did you learn? by playin noobs all the time i dnt think so you probably watched replays of better players played better players or got help and tips from better players so why not return the favour??

and yh its quite hard to type and play but its worth it in the end when you come out with a m8 that can kick ass.

EvilKillaruna

25th Aug 06, 3:49 AM

That's cause you're not just playing noobs, you're playing assholes

Nice point of view... I strongly agree.

I remember one funny battle on 1.41:

3v3, Kasyr, standard, We've broking n00bs defence and suddenly on official chat someone typed:
-Hey, Ork! Help us!
Ork: -No!
N00b: -????

Centurion

25th Aug 06, 4:03 AM

I think that people should play fair and even games. People ought to know when they are in way over their head, and they should know when it's just going to be a noob bashing. I always try getting a game with and against people of my own level.

If I'm in a game against a lot of experienced players, then a noob on my team will often not be able to help much, besides being a minor distraction for the enemies. That'll more often than not mean that I have very little chance of winning, and then the game isn't really fun for me.

If I am on a team of equal players, and we're waiting for the other team to fill up, then it's annoying if a complete noob shows up there too. It'll mean that my opponents will be in the situation that I also hate, but it will also mean that many will leave again when they see their teammate's stats. Often the only ones who will join are other noobs, which will turn the game into a noob bashing.

But I'm really not much for kicking either, at least not without an explanation. That is unless the game has clearly been labeled as 50 %+ or such.

greenweed

25th Aug 06, 4:05 AM

Well... i always thought that "noobs" are angry 13 year olds and that "newbs" are new players.

Guest162

25th Aug 06, 4:07 AM

i hear what your sayin centurion but noobs wont get better without help or playing players like yourself. thats why i play them and help them it makes them better which means one day they might kick my ass which is good.

i class noobs not as new players but ppl that have played 10+ games with a 30% ratio cos they are just as good as those new players.

[AF]purple

25th Aug 06, 4:08 AM

like the plague.
i often prefer respectfullly asking them to leave.
then i give them 10 seconds to reply.
then i kick them

mad modge

25th Aug 06, 4:11 AM

if people just keep kicking noobs they'ill get angry and not go online again and without new players a gameing community will die off leaveing no one to play online

Guest162

25th Aug 06, 4:13 AM

but purple you were helping me the other night lol

but wen i was an average player at QS two or three guys helped me and now im one of the best if i do say so myself. but it really helps havin someone point out what your doing wrong and what you can and cant do.

Regs_Searlon

25th Aug 06, 4:19 AM

Ifa n00b wants to learn play some skirmishes, cos everytime i get stuck with a n00b they NEVER uild anything, no army (to speak of, maybe 1 guardsmen squad) and they build about 2 turrets and then just wait to see an enemy then suddenly drop. N00bs like tht can just go bugger off, but i dont mind helping a newb cos they are new at the game. But then again im not tht good of a teacher.

LoneWolf666

25th Aug 06, 4:22 AM

Depends on how you define a noob (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20060823) .

aktoura

25th Aug 06, 4:26 AM

I have only played one online game with my account. I was a total noob to online gaming, though I have played some LAN games, usually against computer opponents.

I think it was patch 1.41, so in I come to the lobby I choose SM and it is 2vs 2. My ally is SM too. Against two guard players who are well ranked.

I didnt get any grief from anyone, although I think my ally was probably thinking "oh dear" to his credit he didn't kick me and no one left the game.

I kicked ass, I played really well and despite an early set back. Moving up scouts to capture mid map points, I was rushed by a combined force of 6 guard units. I danced them back to a LP point with a turret being built beside it and they backed off. I lost the middle of the map though.

My ally was building lots of tac marines, so seeign what he was up to I focused on mobile forces like Assault marines and the teched to get dreadnaughts. Time to auto build dreds and some more assault marines.

I became the heavy support for the tac marine launch in to a heavily defended and fortified middle section of the board. I left them all too it and jumped my block of assault marines over the fight and jumped again to get deep in to the enemy base.

i then destroyed power and crucial buildings using melta bombs, while pumping out just enough Dreds to keep up pressure on the front.

The guy whose base I was trashing was not amused and dropped, hi partenr fought to the bitter end to give him credit. Was a great game and I really enjoyed.

You just never know if someone whois new is going to be good or not. That is my point. A little chat before the game might help establish this.

Had I been treated like crap for having no wins or losses I would have never tried WA online.

Now I am tempted to come back, only because people make a game what it is... It is all good and well having a fun gand great game to play but if people don't make it fun, don't try to be friendly and ensure that everyone is included then it doesn't get the player base it should. Everyone can get better, the just need coaching.

Hell, maybe they don't need coaching and can kick your ass back to hell/cadia!

Play automatches if you don't like the thought of maybe ever having to play someone who hasn't got the time to spend 4 hours a night playing this game and memorising build strats.

I don't have that time and don't car enough, I want to have fun. Playing with noobs as you call them, are some of the best times I have ever had in online games. It makes it like playing proper people, you don't like people then get the AI skirmish mod and play a comp who isn't a noob all the time!

Sum it up, about time I know, never judge a book by its cover. Read a few pages and see if you like it before throwing it in the trash, it might just surprise you!

SilentOne

25th Aug 06, 4:26 AM

Ditto! I was going to provide them with the same link! ;)

[AF]purple

25th Aug 06, 4:29 AM

mad modge
if good players play noobs it gets excedingly boring for both partys.
teh nooobs dont stand a chance and the good players are ussually taking a well earned rest and letting their pets play the game

Vaati-chan

25th Aug 06, 4:31 AM

Well I have to admit that it depends on my mood; if i am currently in a good mood and I notice that the newb is willing to learn the game (he talks to others/accepts suggestions he gets ingame) I usually dedicate 2-3 games to them in order to show them the basiscs of the game; I don't do any hardcore rushes then but i don't really go easy on them

but if I am not in a good mood i usually just kick them :(

fuggles

25th Aug 06, 4:34 AM

You see, I've been on these forums for 2 years now and have just got broadband last week. I have played this game every day more or less, or watched replays. Played a lot of the skirmish mod and am decent.

However...I am just about to hit the MP side properly and expect to suck because it plays so differently to skirmish. I've just got to get my head around when to attack really as I tend to hesitate after the first push and tech or mass too much. I expect to get better, but I can only really get better by playing better people and then ideally, chatting over my game with them and then watching replays.

Do I want abuse? Not so much, I know I suck, but I also know what I'm doing to a fair degree and want to get better so as to play with some of the better known peeps on this forum. I don't get why people kick noobs as it's surely better to have a bad player than no player? I confess to typing a lot though...I just have the odd question, such as whether maps you don't have load automatically (after much abuse, it appears...no but then is the question so daft when you have played something like UT?).

Also doesn't help that there are so many non-eldar games and eldar haters. Alright, so they are IMBA and always have been...but they were my TT army and if they get nerfed to oblivion then I will still play them.

mad modge

25th Aug 06, 4:40 AM

letting there pets play the game is a bit harsh unless it's a dog there quite smart, anyway back on topic not all people are like you and ask them to leave politely some are all out nasty about it that's the kind of kicking that is more common ,can't we all just battle in harmony or at least be polite about asking some1 to leave.

Centurion

25th Aug 06, 4:42 AM

i hear what your sayin centurion but noobs wont get better without help or playing players like yourself. thats why i play them and help them it makes them better which means one day they might kick my ass which is good.
True, you only improve by playing. When I began playing online I lost over and over again. I think I played more than 10 games before I got a win, and in that game I was totally crushed and it was my teammates who won the game. For quite some time I didn't like to play much, because the people I went up against just crushed me, without I ever had a chance.

If people will train new players, then that's good and helpfull. I know I could have needed it when I began, and I still appreciate getting advice.

But I believe that I have learned by picking my games carefully. Tried getting some games going against people where I actually have a chance, and thereby give it all I've got throughout the match for the highly wanted win.

When I went up against people way better than myself, I found that I was often crushed within the first 5 minutes, and I didn't learn much by that.
I think that I learn more from really competetive games, than from the games that I either win or lose within the first 5-10 minutes.

I'm still not good. I'd say that I'm average with about 52% wins out of around 230 games. I try getting games against people of 45-65 %. Though I don't mind if there are some people a bit outside of those limits, as long as the game is even.

W0lf

25th Aug 06, 4:46 AM

'help them become good then laugh at everyone that loses to him/her '

whoever voted that is clearly lying.

I lost like 30 games before i won one. But i kept going...

aktoura

25th Aug 06, 4:46 AM

Perhaps what we really need is a really good multi player tutorial in the game! Where the computer has you get rushed in 4-5 minutes, then rewinds and shows you what MP gamers usually do and how to counter and what to look for!

The_Fallen

25th Aug 06, 5:02 AM

put em in the team with more experienced players and let them order em around, it's good for them.

Octopus Rex

25th Aug 06, 5:12 AM

Teaching people is all well and good, but some don't want to be taught. They're just there messing around. Probably the same people who spam the chat rooms. Pros v Noobs is boring for both parties, I agree. If I ever go online I'll be seen as a noob, but I've been playing skirmish AI on hard for a couple of months now, so I know what I'm doing. I'd be offended if someone kicked me for being a noob.

Maybe people should discuss it a bit more before the game starts.

If you were a pro footballer would you just grab 9 other people off the street for a game of 5 a side football without talking to them about it? And then thrash the hell out of them? Without giving them any tips? If you chat about it a bit more you may find the "noob" realises they're out of their depth.

Communication is good. Failure to communicate = get kicked. Foreign language speakers: try to at least learn "my english is not good" so others know and will be more understanding.

EvilKillaruna

25th Aug 06, 5:17 AM

I remember a French guy... He started talking to us in game in French, we've typed: 'English please', he wrote something again, we again: "ENGLISH PLEASE" ... and he wrote something about us (in French of coz ;), probably he was agry because we couldn't understand him XD - not our fault!) and drop the game...

VonFIDDE

25th Aug 06, 5:18 AM

Everyone is a noob in the beginning so i treat em with the same respect i hope to get in return ;)

Gue'la Brewer

25th Aug 06, 5:25 AM

<In soviet accent> I crush them.

Imperial Dane

25th Aug 06, 5:27 AM

I treat them with respect, as they tend to be the only slightly sensible persons online !

Guest162

25th Aug 06, 5:30 AM

playin games that are way out of ur league can still help cos you can watch the replay!! the replays of pros really help as you can see what you have to do to become good at the game.

and yh alot of people i know have noob accounts including myself and we play pros and rape them. and they get a surprise i tell them at the end dnt noob bash or this could happen. i dont agree in noob bashing however if thats all you can get take it.

i must admit though i do ask the noobs to leave or ask if they like to watch on some occasions when to pros come i ask the noob to watch or leave to make it fair.

but i was a noob and i got help and it really helped and now im really good and i have new m8s and in a clan with them because they were willing to help me

@fuggles
what is UT?

Fire and Steel

25th Aug 06, 5:37 AM

If they are on my team I try my best to teach them everything I can, because I dont want to lose and, well, sometimes they really need the help. (Honestly, if you havent even played some skirmishes yourself then going online should be your last priority).

If they are on the other team, I'll kill them like anyone else. I wont make a big deal out of it though.

EvilKillaruna

25th Aug 06, 5:37 AM

hmmm.. Unreal Tournament? :nana:

and yh alot of people i know have noob accounts including myself and we play pros and rape them.
... and this is the reason why I'm scared when somebody with account: 0, 0, 0% want to join. :cowboy:

Guest162

25th Aug 06, 5:43 AM

hehe thanks

but i was playin a automatch the other night and im not a good std player i got some tips which helped but i came across one guy that jus kept callin me a noob. is this necessary...no i know i was a noob and still am but who cares why not help me instead of callin me a noob?

probably because he thinks he is to good for that. but helping people is a tougher task then beating them.

and yh it can be scary when someone with 0-0 comes in but why??? its only stats and if you lose you only get stronger. what doesnt kill you makes you stronger.

The fizu

25th Aug 06, 5:44 AM

voted: other

i (we as clan) don't kick anyone from our games, but we don't play against lower skilled players ...
maybe better options for the poll?
Is there a subintended rant on it...

EvilKillaruna

25th Aug 06, 5:49 AM

but i was playin a automatch the other night and im not a good std player i got some tips which helped but i came across one guy that jus kept callin me a noob. is this necessary...no i know i was a noob and still am but who cares why not help me instead of callin me a noob?

probably because he thinks he is to good for that. but helping people is a tougher task then beating them.

I've spot polish guy who was very very rude, calling me a noob, spammer, eldar shit... and other censored words.... but his main point of view was: "Come on asshole on 1v1, I'll beat you!". When in 2v2 I've crushed his friend, he said: "Get out with this Webway from my base (I'm really Evil one :p), I must win coz I want to have GOOD STATS (! -,-) noob!". I'm not a PRO but only a intermediate player and I hate when somebody call me a noob so in some way I understand you.

Mossa

25th Aug 06, 5:53 AM

Play with them, then complain that we had an noob in team and we lost....

eXtremeFurY

25th Aug 06, 6:08 AM

i dont mind helping noobs. but not in games titled 'no noobs'. i join them kind of games to have a decent fight with skilled people who are agressive and play as a team. noobs just spoil them kind of games if you let them play, as it happened last night. played a 4v4 on oasis, random teams, no noobs. one dude on our team had 3 tac squads and didnt move them out of his base to help his allies. so on one side we had a 2v1, didnt have the middle and the other side 2 of ours were holding it against 2 of them. the fact i said, look theres two teams here pls help as you werent going to be attack from the middle cause theres no one there. but all he'd say is stfu and leave me alone. i dont want crap games like that man and even when youre asking them to help, they dont. so therefore they get a kick.
if its an all welcome game or whatever, then i dont care. but it seriously pisses me off when a noob join no noob games. the games take like 10 minutes to set up in the first place, only to be ruined 5 minutes into it.
it might be harsh but theres plenty of other games on the list to join and i have felt pretty bad kicking at times.

Elite Core

25th Aug 06, 6:11 AM

Frankly, I dont like any in my team. If theyre in the opposing team, its fine. I am not rude to them or anything. I tell them to save and learn from the game, towards the end. I dont like losing - bottomline.

Guest162

25th Aug 06, 6:12 AM

i agree kickin when they join no noob games because it is clearly stated you want a gg but otherwise DONT KICK OR ILL KICK YOU :P

paloozzaa

25th Aug 06, 6:37 AM

Saying "their noobs they need help from someone" is a bit unfair to those who tried to improve by themselves. I didn't play a game online untill I could beat the comp on at least harder with the races I wanted to play and after that I whatched a crapload of replays to see how i'm suppose to be playing online. After that I always joined the "only noobs" games and worked my way to decent score and started playing games with ppl of higher skill.

I'm not gonna show any kindness to the person that comes masses guardians then drops, or to the person that masses termies deepstriked them in his base and does nothing while the rest of the team is atacking and eventualy get pushed back to their bases and killed while the termies are still sitting in his base...

Show no mercy to the noob, for you shall get none from him.

edit: I kick noobs if they join my game and ive named it "no noobs".

Centurion

25th Aug 06, 6:41 AM

When I started playing DoW online, I hadn't completed the campaign or even won a skirmish match against Standard AI.

My apologies to the people ending up on the same team as me back then.
:moose:

Carl

25th Aug 06, 6:45 AM

I put other. I don't currently have a ranking myself (don't yet play online), despite that I’d like to think I’m at least an average player.

When dealing with a new player, my strategy would be to hold back, let him build, let him throw attacks at me and see how they go wrong. from time to time I’ll throw attacks at him and demolish bits of his base, but I’ll stop short of destroying him completely. I'll back off and let him re-build. By doing that i give him chance to think about what he could do better and actually try it.

Ever heard the phrase "necessity is the mother of invention", that’s the idea here, he will be forced by necessity to change attack and defence styles and in so doing learn how to play.

@ Geust162:

How do you know if somones a Noob? a bad/nonexistent ranking tells you nothing, just becuase this is their first time online does not mean they can't play.

Guest162

25th Aug 06, 6:57 AM

i ask them are you are noob simple as that.
but i never played a skirmish or any campaign on winter assault. i went straight to online game play and i was an average player but i got help and became better.

and i understand that some of you taught yourself and thats good but some people cant and need help. IMO i think that you can only teach yourself to a certain amount before you need tips and hints from other people.

Carl

25th Aug 06, 7:06 AM

and i understand that some of you taught yourself and thats good but some people cant and need help. IMO i think that you can only teach yourself to a certain amount before you need tips and hints from other people.

Quite true, allthough if you've played a lot of other RTS's first it helps a lot (IMO) since there is very littile to confuse you. playing vs people is always diffrent. on Hard AI in the demo you get rushed by the AI with a FC ASAP, somthing that most people do NOT advoacte doing in online play, but good self teaching (if you can do it) is a good way of giving yourself a fighting chance and ensuring that only when playing with the very best players will your inexpirance ruin evryones game, since you should at least be able to be a thorn in the side of an apposing team, as apposed to a complete drain on the rest of the team.

Guest162

25th Aug 06, 7:15 AM

but if i see somone that seems nice ill offer help i have helped alot of people and they are good players now.
i help at QS (dont bust my balls about that) and if anyone needs help at it im willing to help im Desert_5t0rm look for me.

but i agree that noobs shouldnt join no noob games. however some of the best games i have ever had is when me and my m8 played a game against 3 pros with a noob a totally raped them. was amazin and playin with noobs helps you as it makes it a handicap game so to speak e.g. 2v3

Carl

25th Aug 06, 7:19 AM

I agree noob's shoulden't be in pro only games, it just somtimes comes down to weather they are noobs or not, many people (not you as you have stated) use the rankings which arn't allways totally representetive.

And the Handicap can be a good way of adding to the difficulty, you hit the top and suddenly need a better challange. i use it on skirmish in some other RTS's that have very poor difficulty scaling in skirmish mode.

I-Guard

25th Aug 06, 7:33 AM

Actually when your a noob the best thing that can happen to you is going up aganist a very good player, because once you get your ass kicked, you can save the replay and see what he did. And if he picked the same race as you thats even better.

Guest162

25th Aug 06, 7:53 AM

yes exactly i-guard thats why i think kicking noobs is wrong unless its a no noob game. i still learn from some players by watching replays and playing them

the_hunger

25th Aug 06, 8:28 AM

I treat everyone the way i want to be treated.
Basically, that's the philosophy that governs my life, including online gaming. Since I play the game for fun, I tend to avoid games with weak competition (very new players) or elite competition (you know, the wannabe pros and stats whores). I only play team games--there's really no reason to play online except for the social aspect. If I end up with a less experienced teammate, I might make friendly suggestions. But I never bark orders and accuse anyone of ruining a games, especially if they at least tried. It's just bad sportsmanship to do so. I would rather lose a game with a noobish teammate with a good attitude and a willingness to learn, than win one with a more experienced jerk.

Reaper187

25th Aug 06, 8:33 AM

Sometimes you need to treat them bad because they usually don't listen, and if they don't listen and do some stupid sucide run when combined forces can win the game it is gg.

They tend to not attack or do anything but turtle up, when you say go for the center and they send 1 unreinforced squad when the have 3 just sitting there that pisses me off.

So in conclusion I play with noobs but if they do stupid retarded things I tell them to stop trying to think and listen to me then after they get some experience, then I will just coordinate strats with them or treat them as dumb tgame ending trash.. god sometimes I hate stupid noobs.....but never newbies.

Uniema

25th Aug 06, 8:34 AM

with honor and respect... pay it foward type thing

Hiroshi_Tea

25th Aug 06, 8:38 AM

seeing the weapon, that you trained over the weeks, massacring other players is a joy beyond imagine

Uniema

25th Aug 06, 8:47 AM

We were all new to the game, I find it more fulfilling to help new'r players excel then to belittle there gaming experince. I play alot of teamgames... they are full of players who lack experince, why go about ranting about how much they suck.

That being said I never go easy on a new player no matter how bad they are. Only way to learn is to play better opponets.

Reaper187

25th Aug 06, 9:28 AM

well said

ImmortalChaos

25th Aug 06, 9:31 AM

I kick noobs, stand them in my games, they ruin them. I wont want an easy win, and I dont want to become the easy win. Simple as that.

Although when I'm hosting a 2v2v2/v2 or FFA I am much more forgiving becase those tend to take forever to fill up.

DrDread

25th Aug 06, 9:43 AM

I serve my noobs on a cold plate of ownage topped with hot spicy leet-speak sauce and a side of creamy homo-erotic ridicule

Mmmmmmmm..... :Pint:

Morcalivan7

25th Aug 06, 12:35 PM

I do not laugh at noobs.

I laugh at poeple who think they have some right to call others a noob.

Shame on you who think you're better than others like that.

Xdax

25th Aug 06, 1:02 PM

Always let them play. Because if they play against you you can pwn their ass and have some fun. Then you teach them how to play good and become friends.

If they play with you, you just teach them how to play good and next time you play with the same n00b. You will pwn other ppl with him.

Win_Imperial

25th Aug 06, 1:24 PM

I do not laugh at noobs.

I laugh at poeple who think they have some right to call others a noob.

Shame on you who think you're better than others like that.

Agreed. Makes me sick that people think they can hide behind a computer screen. People who call others noobs are usually over-obsessive with the game and need some help.

Troubleshooter

25th Aug 06, 2:00 PM

Flawed poll.

Voted other.

It depends on the game, the other players, whether or not I have just won the noob lotto 6 times in a row...

Mostly I dont look at stats, just because they are generally meaningless. If someone displays some sign that they are a noob, I ask them point blank if they think they are up to the fight. I trust their answer most of the time, and either salute them for curage or advise them to find some lower stratum games to cut their teeth on.

If you have a room full of pros and a noob joins, hes probably getting kicked with out discussion as a matter of not wanting to "screw" team 2.... its almost always team 2 that draws the noob.

l TRAG1C l

25th Aug 06, 2:17 PM

i would tell the n00b that you are looking for really experienced players, and if he feels like he wants to get owned on then stay, but if you leave i would be happy, then tell them you will leave an observing spot for him so he can learn

timotheus

25th Aug 06, 2:29 PM

There are two choices. If the guy/gal is nice, I spend my time talking to that person. There were instances where I talked to a person for 30 minutes, teaching them the game, what to build, insiting they pick SM as the easiest race, teklling them what units do what. I play them 1v1 next, not to win, but to let them experiment. Or 2v2 vs comps and guide them through.

Lately though I have been seeing aggressive noobs. These join a game, a 2v2 or 3v3, have no clue, do not respond to other players' questions and advice, then say something to the efect of: "you are all losers!!!111 you suck have no life fu** you!111".
:argue:

Now, if you want to play with noobs, make a noob game and have fun. If you want to get better, LISTEN to your teammates when we make a plan or plan a strategy.

If you decide to spend time in a game, and you KNOW you suck, try to see the level of players around you. If you see people with 393 games with 70% win ratios, and you have 8 games with 1 win, perhaps this is NOT for you. :dot:

Generally dont be a moron.

Oh and play 1v1 a lot, this will make you a LOT better.

heavywrench

25th Aug 06, 2:46 PM

I am a noob. there I said it. now it is people like you timotheus that make games fun for all.

on other games i know people really appreciate the
help from more experienced players

I would really benefit from your help!
btw i am heavywrench online 2.

Be Nice To Noobs Everyone.

roospion

25th Aug 06, 6:53 PM

I lose 19 games in a row in one day thx to nubs as teammates... never again I said to myself

闲人tau

25th Aug 06, 7:03 PM

i'm pertty newb, never play online (mostly).

and i have to say" I hate u all~!!!" ( not all, not the nice pros but the badass pro who piss me off."~!!!!!!!!!!!

STOP kicking me ~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And here i thank for the nice people online who help i when playing 2VS2 or 3VS3.........thank you.

and stop kicking me, i know how to play damn it~!!!!!!

Morcalivan7

25th Aug 06, 8:45 PM

No one can possibly lose 19 games in a row. Especially not because of someone else.

Relic

25th Aug 06, 8:54 PM

First time I ever played online, I said I was new, and then my opponent insulted me, my mom, and my skills. I cried :(

Adonis

25th Aug 06, 8:55 PM

Sorry. :p

wnmnkh

25th Aug 06, 9:47 PM

lol.

I only kick noobs when I make the room called "No Noobs."

Extarti01

25th Aug 06, 10:29 PM

what i really hate are noobs who make fun of other noobs, like "haha you got 10% while i got 20%!" personally i dont care what their stats are, a games a game, heck, i got 3 loss 1 win, and i just started playing

DrDread

25th Aug 06, 10:54 PM

I actualy like playing with the noob vs experienced clans. Its far more satisfying when you win that way, especialy against the arrogant High ratio players. Doesn't happen often but when it does its a solid gold game recording.

Epilon

25th Aug 06, 11:25 PM

I treat them with a modecem of respect, so that they will come back and play some more--maby even become experieneced. Even when I title a game no noobs and a noob joins, I normally tend to explain to him/her why I would like them to leave and often offer a good amount of time to present their case. Then I kick.

aerziel

25th Aug 06, 11:32 PM

hmm well I dont really mind them cause like in the ctrlaltdel comic they are enternal virgins :P

Epilon

25th Aug 06, 11:55 PM

Hmm so are they still virgins if you anal rape them? Maby thats why we still have noobs even though the game is over a year old...guess they dropped the soap one too many times.

JeffreyQJr

26th Aug 06, 12:57 AM

Its a game, so i will just play with them. And try to help them when they need it.

Control Monkey

26th Aug 06, 1:32 AM

In automatch, its play to win. You don't know who your opponent is beforehand, so I always am polite ("GL HF" etc).

In team games, if I am on a noob's team, I will just play, partially because stats don't reflect a players skill. If it becomes obvious in the first few minutes that they are struggling, I will give them advice, and try to make up for them being on my team. If they are on the opposite team, I will play to win. No point in letting them win for the sake of it. I will give advice if asked, or if I've used a cheap/hard to counter tactic, like IG bunkering the crit on Gorhael Crater.

But I'm never rude to players. It just makes the game less enjoyable for all involved.

EvilKillaruna

26th Aug 06, 1:41 AM

First time I ever played online, I said I was new, and then my opponent insulted me, my mom, and my skills. I cried :(

And this is a final Buggo's proof that there are bilions of idiots on net. :( Try to be immune on such things and persons :thumb:

Blauri

26th Aug 06, 1:42 AM

I'm not a n00b nor even a newb to this game, only to online playing. So according to stats I'm definately a newb.

Played my first game about a month ago, a 2v2 (IG&IG vs SM&Eldar). All others immediately tried to get me to drop and insulted me quite badly. When the game finally ended (we, the IGs that is, lost.) game scores were: I almost beat the winning duo with more than 2x the scores of my allie. And he was supposed to be 'pro'.

The game was good, the company wasn't. Thx for ruining my first online match in this game. Haven't played online since.

And if I ever meet those guys again... :fight:

EvilKillaruna

26th Aug 06, 1:43 AM

The game was good, the company wasn't. Thx for ruining my first online match in this game. Haven't played online since.

Wrong point of view IMO :p.

Spectre

26th Aug 06, 2:52 AM

i usually play with friends all on my team, and when theres noobs on the other team i tend to kick them if they are SUPER noob. Its not fun to crush the weak.

Sekator

26th Aug 06, 8:30 AM

Well, don't know who noobs are, but for people who abuse the word "noob", I usually make them feel very sad.

Yes, I was talking to you.

Akira

26th Aug 06, 3:48 PM

generally i let anyone play with me noob or not it's bad attitude's i don't play with i.e a guy joins my game asks to kick player x (dude with lowest stats) so his friend can join , i kick the guy who asked the 1st guy to be kicked , 1st come 1st served in my game

HexHammer

26th Aug 06, 5:16 PM

I don't wanna play with noobs as it's no fun. Playing with good players are fun and a challenge.

Though I have taken much time to help noobs getting better, looking at their recs ..etc.

heavywrench

26th Aug 06, 5:17 PM

Be Nice. Give us noobs a sense of largeness by allowing us (once in a blue moon) to beat you more experienced players

Snake1311

26th Aug 06, 6:19 PM

I don't think noobs should get any disrespect, as they're players like anyone else
However, I also don't think noobs and pros should play in the same games. Playing someone way better than you is just annoying, and noob bashing is gay.
What relic could do is give DoW separate servers for noobs and pros according to stats...a system used in games like Gunbound (if u dont know it - google it and download it, its a freeware online game resembling worms).
Although that still doesnt fix smurf issues...
Smurfs to the f***ing guilotine!!!

DrDread

26th Aug 06, 6:24 PM

The noobs that are just inexperienced and aren't good and appologize, there is nothing wrong with them and deserve your goodwill and support, but... A lot of noobs don't care and almost lose the game on purpose, they have no concept of respect for other people. They think only of themselves and think everyone else in the world exists just to provide them with entertainment so they have no problem leaving a large game on a whim. You give them anykind of lecture in a 4v4 game about not even trying to win and ticking off 7 other people and it always "I don't care, I'm just having fun".

They are the same people who make a lot of noise in the movie theatre and then tell you to F-off when you ask them to be quiet, they don't care that 7 other people waited 20 minutes to get into a game and then its gets "thrown" after 20 more. They are the kind of people who you want to reach your hand through the internet and choke!

I say they should have their CDKeys revoked and if Relic wanted to charge me $5 a month to pay the moderators to watch games and do it, I would be happy to pay. Screw all of them for ruining everyones fun!