Relic.com's peculiar redesign

[goldo_O]

I just feel the yellow strip looked thicker yesterday. I suspect the black border is getting bigger.

Or... maybe it's just my imagination.

Your imagination:
here is an animated gif of the changes on 7n. :slow:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9145/7nkb6.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7nkb6.jpg)

[Busby]

"P-L-E-A-S-E D-R-I-N-K O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E"?

Please Drink Ovaltine*? Were did that come from?

*Ovaltine is a chocolate powder used to make hot chocolate etc.

[Stormsong]

Edit: Never mind, I misunderstood :p

[Xypher]

I'm pretty sure this was talked about earlier, but it was never expanded upon.

Ok.. lets go back to the "look, fish!" statement. How can we break that down into possible coordinates. The one that I can think of is alphabet placement:

l.o.o.k
12.15.15.11

f.i.s.h
6.9.19.8

I've not been able to get it into hex format that's usable. Any other ideas?

It seemed like we were making progress (image changes) when we would map the previous coordinates.

[ÜberJumper]

"Be Sure to Drink your Ovaltine", you guys need to watch the classics. In "A Christmas Story" one of the sub-plots has the character trying to get a secret decoder ring to read a secret message.

He gets his ring, decodes the message, and finds it's an advertising scheme for Ovaltine and is utterly disapointed. Do you see the parrallels now?

SK-Excellion refers to Samson Mow's Lineage II Character name. Samson Mow's the AP on the Relic Online team, formerly in charge of Balance for Relic's games. I suspect he's responsible for launching the new website, but because he's away on Vacation/Work he's not able to actually have the new site go live. The sk-Excellion thing is his in joke most likely, and nothing more.

[JohnJigsaw]

If what Uber is saying is true, then it's just the coordinate that is of any use whatsoever then. And I just wasted precious time seeking the next picture by browsing from 8a.jpg to 8zz.jpg :disgust: I don't think there is a clue anywhere in the image as far as we've checked.

Xypher, if that is the way "look, fish!" is meant to be transformed into coordinates, then it will point somewhere close to 0°longitude and 0°latitude (give or take 26 degrees) which I believe is somewhere in the Indian Ocean. Or maybe West Africa. I think that's too far off tangent from the previous 6 coordinates. I support the theory of the "look, fish!" comment to be just that, a comment to tease us.

But then again some point in the middle of an ocean is exactly what we've been getting so far... :| God I'm confused

[grdja]

Uber, why are you puling our noses. No one pumps this much hype for a site revision. Buggo has been teasing us with blurred screen shots for a while, there is the "2007" at the end of DC, i mean, come on...

[ÜberJumper]

I'm not.

It's a site re-design. Yeah no doubt there's a DoW 2 coming, and yeah no doubt there's other relic products in development, but the old Relic site was in desperate need of a fixing up.

Don't expect any world shaking revelations is what I'm getting at.

[The5thElephant]

What he's getting at is lowering your expectations so you are that much more excited when this turns out to be a big announcement.

Hehe, sorry for undermining you Uber, but someone was going to interpret it that way, so I had to get it out there.

[Shaitan]

I'm not greedy, if they announced DoW2, I'd be happy enough. That being said, if they didn't announce DoW2 when the site got back up, any speculation as to how long it would take them to announce it?

[DeafMute]

I personally no longer care when DoW2 comes.

The times past imo. Im no longer over the moon about it.
meh.

[Atze]

goldo, that's a still JPG image you linked to, not an animated GIF...

Yeah, because the pic always stayed the same, so there are no differences to be animated xD

[ÜberJumper]

Goldo_O's possibly my favourite person from France, EVER.

[Netsurfer733]

I just wanted to say, DoW2 *will* be a world shaking revalation imo, Uber :)

Simply because that is how awesome it will be.

[sargent_tater]

ok i tried to read the entire thread to see wether or not my idea for the game that they possibly have in the works, has already been brought up. well i got to page 17 and i wanted to know how much farther i had to go.
this is too much! well my idea was that since, when you beat dark crusade, it zooms out of kronus and just keeeeeeeeps zooming out with the explosions on the planets...
some would say HW3 because its in space
some would say DOW2 because the ad is in dc
i would say that there is a table top version of warhammer

where as there is also A SPACE COMBAT version!!!!!!
ITS GONNA BE DOW IN SPACE XD I cant WAIT!!!

[robnubis]

Yes it was discussed already, trust the thread has covered everything.

even though we have very little to go by...

[sargent_tater]

i'd sift through it if i had the time... do you happen to know the approxamate page(s) that ist on?

[Excellion]

No one has guessed what's being announced yet... hmmm

[JHD536]

A person named excellion, from Relic no less, posting about a puzzle spelling excellion...

Why is there no forum interrogation room to put this guy in?

[Edgar Valen]

Perhaps a warhammer 40k RPG? :P

Why do you tease us so Excellion!? :puppy:

[Shuma]

Meh, whatever it is, it will come someday. There's no point in playing this silly game(for me atleast). I'll just watch.

[Civik]

most of the evidence acquired is currently about 80 pages back... perhaps we should be searching there.

[roflmao]

ASFLKJAS:FLKJA:SLKFJLS:A
DAMNIT EXCELLION!!!

I hate you lot at relic now xD.

[Caesar]

Relic has stated before that they will only make RTS games. Also, Relic has money these days and I'm sure they like to make money. This guarantees that there will be nothing Warhammer related ever again (thank God).

[Nurizeko]

No one has guessed what's being announced yet... hmmm

Cant you see your driving the poor poor innocent forum goers insane!!?? have you no heart!!?? e_e

For the love of Karan's imba chest sub-systems, stop stirring this destructing theorycraft!. :donny:

lol

[redforth]

No one has guessed what's being announced yet... hmmm

Which means you should just tell us and save us the agonizing suspense

[cmstophe]

None of us have guessed it yet?

That just killed all my interest right there, honestly. No Warhammer 40,000= no interest here for me.

[Bonnet]

Has anyone else looked for movement cipher/replacement cihper?

[Sanctum]

No one has guessed what's being announced yet... hmmm
You are an evil man...

[Pijama]

OoOoooO...Teaser. Let's see what do you folks in Relic have in store. :)

*Sits back and watch.*

[Shaitan]

We've guessed a lot, I find it hard to believe that we haven't guessed it yet. I think they're just stirring up interest again. Assuming it's a game announcement, it's either DoW2, or HW3, or another CoH installment. If it isn't then I don't really see how we can figure it out. That being said, if it's none of the above, I don't see what could be announced that I would get excited about.

[Bonnet]

Ok, that was simple: Given a=1, b=2, etc.

The numbers given with look fish line up perfectly.

Look:
http://bonnets.ath.cx/RelicForums/mystery.htm

[cmstophe]

If he was trying to stir up interest he needs to try harder. :p I've already lost most interest in this; I check Relic.com every other hour, rofl, but it's never updated, so I've given up on trying to figure it out and am just waiting for the announcement.

And like I said I am disturbed that we haven't guessed it yet. Makes me think it'll be something obscure and new, when IMO they should be building on their current IPs.

[Retroboy]

Did we miss the first refresh, and it's an "A"?

In other words, is the secret message

"ASK EXCELLION"?

Excellion, what, please, is Relic's next project and/or release?

Further, considering the LOOK FISH! bit, is it the sequel to:
http://zpssoft.com/ZPSStore/images/Trophy%20Bass%202.gif???



-- Retro

[the_almighty_moo]

it'll be a fantasy RTS involving boats.

heh well at least its a wild stab in the dark

[Shaitan]

If Retroboy's theory is correct, my mind would be blown.

[Mr.Pickles]

If Retroboy's theory is correct, I would bow my head in shame because I was tempted to write the same thing a week ago.

[Hellraiser]

Ok so it's not:

-DOW2
-A website relaunch
-IC2
-HW3
-another COH expansion
-a submarine RTS
-battlefleet gothic(was this even mentioned?)

It means either:
DOW:DC going RO with the persistent online campaign thing mentioned a few times or a new IP. Personally I hope for a new IP using the essence engine.

[Tiresias]

I suggest possible spiritual successor to homeworld, maybe called homeplanet? :p (ala bioshock)

[JAL-18]

Goat-throwing viking ships at last!?

[rofle]

so if it isnt any of the mentioned game .. then i will say it is a RTS game!!! LOL that says it all now show us the announcement!!!!

[Civik]

Trophy Bass Masters tournament style Ocean eXtreme?

"Look, Fish!"

BOB! Ya dun netted a mine! Throw it ba...

BOOM!

[the_almighty_moo]

might be a spin off of Fire Warrior (yeah i know relic didnt make it but hear me out) and you play as a Guardsman armed with a wet kipper. would do more damage than the autogun in Fire Warrior too :D

Maybe a shooting range and you play as a comissar shoting guardsmen that are running away.

actually i think all my ideas involve guardsmen armed in stupid ways or facing a humourous and deadly demise. heh IC 2 in essence then hmm?

[Shuma]

The voice ehoes in my 'ead...

Warhammer Fantasy Battles RTS... Perhaps they got bored of the Futuristic look.

[Lixpraki]

Maybe a shooting range and you play as a comissar shoting guardsmen that are running away.

Now that would be fun. Or a pacman style game with a tyranid trying to eat guardsman while they run away.

On a more serious note; we really do need some more clues in my opinion.
Even tried to change order of the letters in sk excellion and then google. It led to nowhere .

[DeafMute]

No DoW2 eh?
Well. I offically don't care anymore. Ha. lol~

[JAL-18]

Enough with the emotional updates please. To be blunt, nobody cares that you don't care. Ironic, isn't it.

[cmstophe]

What else is there to even say in this thread? Just lock it. It's useless. Every bit of speculation is just going to be a repeat, and nobody is allowed to say anything other than that.

[DeafMute]

Isnt that the kinda point of the net?
To share youre opinion. regardless of what others think or even if they care (they dont. well known fact most dont)

I simply said it because I felt I was on the ball. yet wasnt.
So much time has been wasted by alot of people on this thread. Too much time you could say.

A pity really.

[Exit]

Ah cool no DOW 2 then, thats actually very logical when you think of the fact that......wait...WHAAAAT?

Correct me... no really.. correct me!

We have guessed DOW 2. Now, it isnt something we have guessed.

With my supreme logic thinking I come to the conclusion that there will be no DOW 2.

Thats just...@£$€{[]

[Tiresias]

With my supreme logic thinking I come to the conclusion that there will be no DOW 2.

Thats just...@£$€{[]

no DoW2 just isn't the thing being announced

[cmstophe]

$10 says it actually is DOW2.

[roflmao]

Wait, I fail to see why it cannot be DoW2, AFAIK DoW2 is a RTS.

[Luwinkle]

Someone should fly up to Relic's HQ and bust down the front door with a battering ram with a solid steel ram's head on the front and demand an answer!

Other than that, I've lost interest in this.(not the same as not caring :O).

[Shuma]

So no DoW 2 eh Excellion?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/11/24/sports/bats.2.190.jpg

We're not going to have problems, are we?

[Pokey ork]

Well if you think about it, a sequal of DOW2 would require an almost identical system with a handful of additional new features. I too initially thought Dow2, but come to think of it it may not have anything to be related with the actual DOW series, but may still be Warhammer related.

Simply put, if they did indeed make a sequal of DOW, there wouldnt be much space for innovative gameplay features now would there? It would be similar in case of Starcraft 2. If it was indeed DOW 2,It would simply be a visually enhanced version of the original game with new tech trees and destructable terrain. At first people would think it was brilliant and the best game on the planet etc, but it would die down rapidly.

So instead of trying to stay on the same route as DOW, why not try something new and innovative and still keep it Warhammer themed? That is probably the most likely scenario as i cannot see Relic dumping the Warhammer IP so quickly.

[Retroboy]

I would suggest that the clause "no more emotional updates" referred to by the moderators also includes physical threats against Relic property and employees.

Or maybe that's just me. :/

-- Retro

[TheLastRoboKy]

If the code does indeed spell "Ask Excellion" which is likely unless it was one of those tricky codes where it spells something else if the letter-number code is done differently (or if Ask Excellion is actually one of those anagram things), then I guess the announcement can only be Relic's unveiling of a new Real Time Strategy-Magazine Advice Column Simulator game, or RTSMACS if you prefer.

Players will take command of one of two rival magazines, each having their own page layouts and reader ages, and fight to run the other out of business for no discernible reason through utilization of their advice columns which operate in the same area (which looks like the Shrine of Excellion DoW map) and attempt to draw from the same pool of advice seekers. Recruit writers, psychologists, psychics, horoscope specialists and asteroid mining ships to get the job done, and if that fails there's always the "Execute" command to improve morale. Featuring a 20 mission campaign starting with a letter asking for advice concerning a lover's infidelity and ending with an attack by rhinos fused with sharks seeking fashion tips.

Eventual expansions will add a new newspaper run by aliens who use thought control and a German Panzer Division which is lost in time and will play completely different to the other 'races' (largely due to a lack of desire to run a newspaper but a large quantity of tanks).

[Bonnet]

More likely it is intended to be used in some sort of replacement cypher...

[Gale_Force15]

Excellion has told us nothing. Maybe it's DoW2 under a different name, maybe theyre going to pull a Bioshock. I'm almost certain he's trying to throw us off track based on a technical fault, but what is it D:>?

[Ammon Ra]

Did we miss the first refresh, and it's an "A"?

In other words, is the secret message

"ASK EXCELLION"?

Excellion, what, please, is Relic's next project and/or release?
Yeah, i proposed that a few dozen pages ago. Got very little response from relic or anyone else. It also doesn't mean much.

This thread is 110% speculation with no relic.com updates in the past few days. Have they given up?

[cmstophe]

Yeah, true, I highly doubt Excellion has scoured this whole thread and actually came here to tell us that nothing we have said is correct. He just popped in to put in an intimidating comment while we wait 3 months for this thing to get announced, I'm sure.

[Retroboy]

Props, ammon. Wasn't about to search this thread for the term "excellion". :D

-- Retro

[Mr.Pickles]

No one has guessed what's being announced yet... hmmm

A Warhammer 40,000 game?

[Shuma]

No one has guessed what's being announced yet... hmmm

Nothing? A game? Site Redesign? That you(Relic) officialy hate us?That you like Fishing?

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x51/Shuma22/1180156023608.jpg

This pic fits perfectly with the current Topic. :screwy:

[the_sidewinder]

Clearly it is a parking sim.

This, following the unannounced return of Alex G to Relic in order to share the knowledge he has gained. For you see, when he left Relic to run that parking lot, it was not to make all sorts of insane money from the rentals, but to gain the field knowledge necessary to make the best parking sim ever!

This game will be unparalleled in it's attention to detail and ease of control, while letting you experience the grandeur and power of owning and loaning out an entire parkade of vehicles!

[Pengu]

I think this is about the point where some one at relic should say "oh they didn't get it maybe we should give them a hint". I have read just about this entire thread and it doesn't look like its going anywhere soon. Please give us a sign relic.

[Excellion]

You've got coordinates pointing somewhere and a clue saying something about fish ;)

Here are a few more hints:
1) think types of fish
2) what kind of game is Excellion originally from?

[Shuma]

Ok... Everything leads me to a transformer... or an Anime called Gunbuster(or something like that) where a Ship is called Excellion.

[Pijama]

Well, there is the Shrine of Excellion...And I can't combine any kind of fish with that.

[ChaosReigns]

That's easy relatively speaking, if we're talking about the DoW map, Excellion is from an RTS.

Fish? Salmon, Trout, Tuna, Swordfish, Dogfish, Catfish, Pirahna, Baracuda, Gold Fish, Beta...that's it. I don't know any more.

That's too easy though, it can't be RTS :-\

[cmstophe]

No DoW2 confirmed :( Something new. DOW has nothing to do with fish :/

[Bonnet]

Red Herring? :p
I am guessing it is some kind of MMO actually, why? Excellion happens to lead a major clan in Lineage II.

[SquidDNA]

The coordinates have led us in the Pacific Ocean, home to some historic naval battles.

1) If the fish are not literal, it could mean submarines.
2) All we've heard about Excellion and gaming is MMOs.
3) ???
4) PROFIT

Heh, you guys gonna fix Navyfield? PLEASE don't make it so much of a grind. :)

[cmstophe]

Any info on a game Excellion the individual used to play? :p Maybe he means what game he originally played? Longshot...grasping for straws :(

EDIT: Hey, anyone else getting a submarine vibe from this? What if the relic.com is a sonar display?

[SRI-Sajuuk]

WOAH WAIT! ChaosReigns said a BETA fish! a beta test of something maybe?

[Pengu]

Well SK was a clan for lineage 2 of which there was a player in it named excellion. Lineage 2 was a mmorpg... This along with that request for a developer with mmo experience makes me think the comming announcement must have something to do with Relic and a mmo.

[Bonnet]

cmstophe two posts above you I pointed out that excellion was a major clan leader in Lineage II, and MMO.

[JAL-18]

Google is being singularly unuseful in turning up any relevent info on "Excellion."

Edit: Bonnet's post makes mine irrelevent.

[cmstophe]

Sorry, only read the first sentence of your post. No biggie. Anyways, I'm definately thinking an MMO, now. :/ In fact, I'm almost entirely sure that with the given info we can deduce that the game is an MMO. In what type of universe? I have no idea. That's where the fish comes in, I suppose.

[Sanctum]

So uh... a 3D (See: Homeworld) submarine MMORPG in the style of Lineage II? :moefixed:

[WhiteGulls]

What about Fantasy? Has anyone suggested the idea that, instead of looking at MMORPG, or RTS, or what have you, 'type of game' meant the genre the game comes from? L2 would count as a fantasy game. Maybe it's a fantasy RTS? A bit too close to WC3 if true, but with no WC games coming any time soon, I don't think there'll be much in the way of competition.

[Shuma]

I think we have some key words.

Excellion, Beta, fish, MMO. Huh?

[JHD536]

Type? I figure he means saltwater since the coordinates mentioned point to the ocean...

What kind of game is Excellion from...? Kinda broad since excellion could be pretty much anything.

Shrine of Excellion-DoW-Warhammer-Tabletop? Strategy?

Excellion brings up some random stuff in a search engine, though mostly transformers, which is highly unlikely. One result was for an Asian RPG where the main character wielded a weapon named Excellion.

Unless he's toying around and he actually means himself, which given the join date would be Winter Assault-ish...

[SRI-Sajuuk]

FOund this:

http://us.yesasia.com/en/artIdxDept.aspx/section-games/code-c/aid-1521529/

[cmstophe]

No, we're definately onto something with the Lineage II.

[CommodoreKitty]

Excellion, Beta, fish, MMO. Huh?

I think Beta's are only fresh-water fish.

This is lookin' down on my 40k, aww.

[Shuma]

Yes Sajuuk but what does Fish or the sea has to do with this?

[SRI-Sajuuk]

your guess is a good as mine...but, anything goes im guessing til relic says something

[Bonnet]

What about starfish?

Wait a second, we Know Peter Watts wrote the book starfish, the major events took place in the pacific ocean and get this we know he worked with relic on Homeworld.

[Pengu]

FOund this:

http://us.yesasia.com/en/artIdxDept.aspx/section-games/code-c/aid-1521529/

Yeah I saw that too, but I don't think thats it. Too obscure. I tried to find that island on google earth but was unable to.

[Shuma]

How about Excelion Starship?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=es&client=opera&rls=en&hs=jfi&q=Excelion+Starship&btnG=Buscar&lr=lang_es%7Clang_en

It also leads to this forum... and a guy named Excellion Prime. :crazy:

[Hiro Protagonist]

Fish = Fresh = Newbie


Excellion is the name of a lineage II character, which is an MMO.

From these clues, clearly, Relic is going to make their first MMOG.

Type of fish might be herring, as in red, to distract us.

hmm.

[JAL-18]

I'm running searches on types of Pacific fish on Google. I don't know enough Pacific geography to know if the area of the 6th point is significant, but I'm also checking up on that.

[CommodoreKitty]

Are starfish ever fish? To the interwebs!


Edit: Wait, ten seconds passed, and my post is now irreverent. Gimme a sec to think of something important to say.

[Shuma]

Goggling(if that's a word) Excellion Starship also leads to Dolphin... They're fish aren't they?

[SRI-Sajuuk]

dolphins are mammals i think

[Bonnet]

re-read my post, i edited. What if it has to do with the rifters triology, that would be so cool.

[CommodoreKitty]

dolphins are mammals i think
They are.

[ÜberJumper]

SK's not a clan, it's his class, Shillien Knight.

As I pointed out like hundreds of posts ago (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?p=2424851&highlight=Knight#post2424851).

http://www.lineage2.com/news/chronicle4_10.html

http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=513602

[SRI-Sajuuk]

ok, so it was no homeworld 3, dow 2, yada yada. i maybe beating on a dead horse here, but isnt it VERY illegal for THQ to put their logo on that post card?

[ÜberJumper]

It's not illegal if they own the IP again.

[dreddnott]

Dolphins are cetaceans, so no.

[SRI-Sajuuk]

i hope your right Uber.

[Bonnet]

Also in the MMO camp, didn't we also know relic was looking for an MMO devolper some time ago?

[JAL-18]

Cetacea is an Order in the Mammilia class, so yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin

Edit: and if the fish we're supposed to find is starfish, well, obvious connection there with the T-mat.

[SRI-Sajuuk]

putting two and two together, im getting the hint of a Hw RPG, but fish doesnt make sense in that case.

[Shuma]

Well if Uber and Bonnet are right... then that could mean some kind of HW 3... but not HW... some kind of weird HW MMO... RTS?.

[dreddnott]

Forgive me, JAL, my Internet is slow. Just pretend I was replying directly to Shuma! :)

[Bonnet]

http://mmocodex.com/blog/?p=5470 <---there it is, I am thinking MMO.

[SRI-Sajuuk]

also, who said Starfish, cause that pings T-mat to me...

EDIT: do starfish live in the pacific?

[Shuma]

Oh well... MMO... that makes me sad.

[Hiro Protagonist]

Well if Uber and Bonnet are right... then that could mean some kind of HW 3... but not HW... some kind of weird HW MMO... RTS?.

Holy shit.

Dibs on Kiith Nam'Shub

[ÜberJumper]

Yeah Bonnet, that was speculated months ago when the job items were first posted. They were searching for devs with MMO experience to join the DoW team.

[CommodoreKitty]

We still don't know for sure, it's till all guessing. This could be deliberate to throw us off.

edit: Holy shit, this thread is moving fast. I can't type fast enough.

[JAL-18]

Following Bonnet's clue from before: Starfish by Peter Watts is available online.

http://www.rifters.com/real/STARFISH.htm

Don't really think that'll lead anywhere, but I'm just posting every bit of info/idea that comes to mind. Might spark something off in someone else's brain that turns out to be correct.

[roflmao]

Fish Fish Fish... Only thing that comes into my mind is Impossible Creatures (2).
I sure hope its NOT a MMO. I hate paying monthly fees.

[SRI-Sajuuk]

Off of Jal's post:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/je.st/starfish/habitat.html

see if it has anything to do with the coodinates. Specifically the climate

[ÜberJumper]

As per this post (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?p=2424018#post2424018), if anyone speaks chinese, I strongly suggest you translate for us and find out if there's anything DoW or Lineage II related in there.

http://www.chinajoy.net/

Samson/Excellion was there last week.

[Hiro Protagonist]

Fish Fish Fish... Only thing that comes into my mind is Impossible Creatures (2).
I sure hope its NOT a MMO. I hate paying monthly fees.

o.o

o.O

O.O

:eek:

*eyes explode*

I'm starting to wonder why Relic started their own online service.

[SRI-Sajuuk]

if it is a MMO, i hope they dont have fees

[ÜberJumper]

Relic started their own online service because they NEED ONE. No big secret there.

[Pijama]

OOOOOh...I am getting that rush, the rush of anticipation...You know, when you are about to stumble into something BIG. :D

MMO RTS hybrid? Unless it is a new IP, I would say a new Warhammer product, but then again, that was already speculated.

[Pengu]

During WW2 the code the Navajos were using referred to ships and boats as different types of fish. So maybe the Link with Iwo Jima and fish has something to do with that?
Edit:
NAMES OF SHIPS
SHIPS --- SEA FORCE
BATTLESHIP --- WHALE
AIRCRAFT --- BIRD CARRIER
SUBMARINE --- IRON FISH
MINE SWEEPER --- BEAVER
DESTROYER --- SHARK
TRANSPORT --- MAN CARRIER
CRUISER --- SMALL WHALE
MOSQUITO BOAT --- MOSQUITO
Thats the Navajos code of all ship related items.

[Sastrei]

I swear to god I'm gonna be pissed if it's an MMO. I hate MMO's...they're boring. RTSRTSRTSpleeassseee. >.<

-Stefan-

[Bonnet]

CoH mmo/rts on the pacific front?

[dreddnott]

It's either an MMO, an RPG, or both (MMORPG). We know that much.

[SRI-Sajuuk]

If its an MMORPG, Relic better have gone the whole 9 yards with it, because like Sastrei said, they are boring.

MMORTS would be really interesting though!

[Pengu]

I'm tempted to think pacific themed coh expansion with mmo elements, but I doubt they'd announce the 2nd expansion for coh before the first one is out.

[grendizer]

Damn . looks like no Dow2 or new Dark Crusade patch, it really deserves expectation after 4 months with no news about it. :puppy:

[Gale_Force15]

Didn't GW or someone just announce that a 40k MMO was in the works? I can't remember if they announced a developer or not... I need to do my homework here, but I smell interest ;o

Ninja Edit: Seems Mythic are the guys who got that project. and here i was thinking I'd had a good idea D:

[Locutus]

I highly doubt, (and will be very disappointed if I'm wrong) that Relic is going to be coming out with an MMO that requires monthly fees. If Buggo is worth her salt, (which we all know she is :) ) the folks at Relic ought to know that their fan base doesn't want such a game, and won't pay to play it. No. 1 rule of making profit is making something that people will actually buy, so it would be rather illogical to make another mmorpg for a fairly saturated market.

Whatever it is, I hope its not another WWII game. CoH is great, but I want my spaceships and ion-cannons back. ;)

[CQD]

I can't find anything useful in 10 minute by searching Relic, chinajoy, and Lineage2 in chinese. Besides the ChinaJoy website is a mess. I'll try if I can find any thing useful after I get home.

But I found something by searching Relic and chinajoy, this article is dated 2006-11-29.

http://big5.yesky.com/b5/pcgame.yesky.com/122/2692622.shtml

In recent interview, producer John Johnson did not answer what's the next step of their company, but information from THQ shows that the famous RTS developer is hiring new crew to make a Role Playing Game and a MMOG!!
I did not translate the whole thing but it should be enough.

[Alliance]

Relic-online ATM is the pairing system relic uses to pair up you online games in CoH and DoW, its not some secret doorway to their MMO. Once it was called WON, now its R-O.

I personally am hoping for a new and original IP. Its never good to linger on one game for long, unless your name starts with bliz and ends with zard.

[Shuma]

Ninja Edit: Seems Mythic are the guys who got that project. and here i was thinking I'd had a good idea D:

No, Mythic is doing the Warhammer MMO, Vigil Games is doing the 40k MMO.

[ÜberJumper]

Alliance:

Errr yeah, not so much.


Homeworld used WON = World Opponent Network, run/used by sierra, it was Sierra's online service.

Impossible Creatures used Microsoft's Zone technology.

Gamespy is used and still used by Homeworld 2 and Dawn of War.

Relic Online uses Quazal's backend, and as far as I know was designed to be Relic's version of Battle.net (one day eventually). I believe all future Relic games will use the same network backend. However, Quazal's tech that relic is currently using is NOT for MMO games (2-32 players). Quazal does have a MMOG tech though. So if there's any partnering news posted on Relic.com soon, look into what that company does.

Now that Excellion/Samson is back from China, I'd expect to see the website updated anytime now.

[Lord Simonicus]

Sites changed.
8.jpg
No other bits that I could spot though.....correction...says 'Hello'....very helpful....

Looking very much like a website launch.
Scroll to the bottom & it says FISH!
looks like that might be on a timer of some kind?

[Shuma]

****.

SO it was just a site redesign?

Edit:

I hope the Counter is for something interesting.

[Locutus]

Lord Simonicus, did you miss the countdown timer at the bottom? There are currently 5 hours & 19 minutes until it reaches zero.

Agreed that it does look like a website launch in the background, but the website wouldn't have been taken down for this long if that was all they were doing, nor would we have been getting all these nice hints.

Am I right in that at the end of the countdown, we'll just see "Fish!" appear on the screen? Wonder if that was Pike's idea.


TargetDate = "07/19/2007 5:30 AM";
BackColor = "black";
ForeColor = "white";
CountActive = true;
CountStepper = -1;
LeadingZero = true;
DisplayFormat = "%%H%% Hours | %%M%% Minutes | %%S%% Seconds";
FinishMessage = "Fish!";

[Shuma]

Relic is a very very evil company.. perhaps i should join the Dark Side.... Blizzard.

[Netsurfer733]

HAH!! I'm not the first one to notice this, right?

http://www.relic.com/

New site is coming into view :D

And all I can see....is Company of Heroes :(

EDIT: Danged!!! Read to slow, was 3 minutes behind :( lol

And no I didn't notice the timer...curious....?!

Someone guess this thing before Relic disowns us!! Where do the coordinants point??? Answers, NOW!!!!!!!

[JAL-18]

From the way this has been run, I wouldn't be surprised to see the new game announcement as part of the news on the new Relic site. There's hope yet.

[Shuma]

I see.

Ethic Passion Development under "the Culture"... wtf.

[SRI-Sajuuk]

my countdown timer says 2 hours, not 5

EDIT: thats interesting, Relic has a link to forums? did they even have a forum before all this? (Besides this one, and offical one..)

[Endymion]

:wtf: hello.... fish!.... well this is soooo evil

[Sastrei]

It's a RTS Whale migration MMORPG.

It's 3 am...sue me.

-Stefan-

[dreddnott]

Well, I'd better go rot my mind silly on Dawn of War in the meantime. 2 hours left...

[ÜberJumper]

Now that Excellion/Samson is back from China, I'd expect to see the website updated anytime now.


Wow, it's almost like I knew what was going on!

[SRI-Sajuuk]

-_- you do dont you..just messin with ya uber

[robnubis]

Cool, still though if its just a website launch, they took their time....

Hopefully they still announce something :(

Well its 8.34 GMT (UK/Eire) So it'll be around 10am when the timer stops.

[Shuma]

@Uber: You're an Evi... bad guy.

Aniway, i still see the 5 hours thing and there doesn't seem to be more coordinates.

And Sajuuk, the link to the forums are these forums... unless they now have official forums.

[ÜberJumper]

There's a good possibility that Relic will have their own forums rather than using these ones.

[Lord Simonicus]

Lord Simonicus, did you miss the countdown timer at the bottom?

When I first looked there was no timer, just the words 'FISH!'
Now there's a timer currently at 1Hr 42m-ish.

Who is Pike?

[ÜberJumper]

Pike owns Relicnews.com.

Pike sleeps.

[Lord Simonicus]

Could Pike be the Fish we are looking for?

Is Relic News becoming an official part of Relic perhaps?

[Shuma]

04 Hours | 25 Minutes | 23 Seconds

Damm it... why do i have to wait 4 hours while others wait only 1?

[Necronmaniac]

Hmm,

Pike is a kind of fish, but not one found in the east Pacific I shouldnt imagine.

[Earth-Command]

1 hour 23 mins here down under.

[DatonKallandor]

1:24:30 in Austria.

I think everyone should do a hard-refresh to make sure the cache is clear and everything works as intended.

[No Surrender]

Maybe it's some sort of weird time zone thing but I'm also getting an hour and twenty something minutes. I bet it's just the website launch though... nothing massive.

[Sanctum]

Looks like the release Opposing Fronts beta will coincide with the countdown timer? I really hope it's something more, though.

[Homdax]

A countdown is the same regardless of timezone...it is at what local time it reaches 0 that is different.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

most curious how some text is legible but much else is washed out..particularly in the news section

hmmmmmmm

[Shuma]

Daton was right, now it's 1 hour etc etc.

[robnubis]

Right well at this stage i'm getting rid of all the hopes, it was a good ride, but i highly doubt we'll hear about a new game today or for a while...

Heres to the new site and CoH:OF beta

[Homdax]

TDS, its an image transition focusing from up to down sorta, viewed from an upper angle...

Ok so who is NOT going to bed the next hour...:D

[Vakarian]

If it wasn't for the fact this is my day off, i would have called in sick! There is no way i'm missing this (whatever "this" is).

[Pijama]

Here was I, all ready to go to bed, and then I see the timer.

Oh well. Sleep is for the weak! 45 min. to go. :)

[SRI-Sajuuk]

im always up at this time. So, im not going to bed

[Shuma]

38 minutes...

[Couger8116]

In school, free lesson, 00 Hours | 36 Minutes | 05 Seconds to go!!!!

[Necronmaniac]

Well,

I am not going tom bed cos I only got up 3 hours ago and its 10:00Am here lol. I cant wait to see what is revealed (if anything) Lets hope its something cool!

[SRI-Sajuuk]

cheers to that!

[nyyti]

Hmm, I photoshopped the image that's on the page. Under The Culture it says "Ethic Passion Innovation"..IS THIS THE NEW GAME?

[Endymion]

I just have to get some time off work for this...Switching windows from CAD to relic.com is quite common for me lately :D

Let's see what the coordinates were about...;) there haaas to be an explanation for all this...

[SRI-Sajuuk]

Hmm, I photoshopped the image that's on the page. Under The Culture it says "Ethic Passion Innovation"..IS THIS THE NEW GAME?



Its under the Culture section. so no its not.

[DatonKallandor]

Hmm, I photoshopped the image that's on the page. Under The Culture it says "Ethic Passion Innovation"..IS THIS THE NEW GAME?

It's the Relic Company Culture. Most big companies have one. (Trivia: IKEA's company culture includes "Christian Values")

[Shuma]

Hm.... 7 Minutes to go.

[Reaper]

6:40 remaining

[No Surrender]

Ok guys, don't do any more countdown posts until the timer's over. It's only a couple more minutes. We can wait that long ;).

[Couger8116]

damn you relic
Fish!

[jedi hunter]

wtf fish?

[whats_true]

FISH

Nice one. Now I'm going to bed :\
ITS UP :D

[SRI-Sajuuk]

they are uploading something now. give it a sec.

[Shuma]

And the site dies... Fish!.

[y2k81]

Under Construction T_T

[murphyj]

OMG, the countdown stopped and it said "Fish!" and now when I refresh I cannot access the site. LAME

[Couger8116]

yay

[SRI-Sajuuk]

IM IN

[No Surrender]

Hahahahaha. Wow, this was certainly anti-climactic. I suppose we should give them a bit of time to enable the site or whatever they're doing. Try not to F5 the server into oblivion.

[Homdax]

00:00:00

Fish :wtf2:

and a refresh...WOW

VIVA RELIC!

[nyyti]

THE SITE IS BACK UP, REFRESH...also FISH!

[Earth-Command]

THQ Inc. and Shanda Interactive Entertainment Limited today announced a co-development and publishing agreement for an online-only version of THQ's critically acclaimed 3D Real-Time Strategy (RTS) PC game Company of Heroes™. Company of Heroes Online™ (working title) is currently being co-developed by THQ studio Relic Entertainment, the creators of Company of Heroes, and Shanda. As part of the agreement, Shanda has obtained the exclusive license to operate Company of Heroes Online in Mainland China, and THQ and Shanda will also share the benefits of the game’s potential release outside that region. Company of Heroes Online is scheduled for release across Mainland China in 2008.

The original Company of Heroes was released to broad critical acclaim in 2006. The game is set in World War II and brings to life the journey of the men of Able Company as they fight across Europe. The RTS hit has won more than 37 awards to date, including six “PC Game of the Year” and 12 “Strategy Game of the Year” awards. In addition, the game is listed in more than 10 “Top 10 Games of 2006” lists. Company of Heroes Online is set to deliver a persistent Company of Heroes experience for online gamers where players will be able to build their character up from private to general through new multiplayer cooperative missions, gameplay modes, and player versus player combat. The teams at Relic Entertainment and Shanda are joining together to create a persistent RTS experience across the expansive battlefields of World War II Europe.

[Shuma]

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[jedi hunter]

company of heroes online announced what does that mean

[Couger8116]

it's COH online :-(

[whats_true]

Company of Heros Online anounced

That should be interesting.

EDIT: bump it, this thread is moving like wild fire.

[Shuma]

CoH... Online?

[sporty]

So, China gets CoH?
I'm impressed... NOT!

[SRI-Sajuuk]

aww wtf...this is a big dissapointment

[Shuma]

BIG dissapointment.

[No Surrender]

AHHHHHH! Perfect. I leave China and then Relic announces a project there. Surely this is fate playinga joke on me.

[DatonKallandor]

It's not just "china gets CoH". It's a persistant Company of Heroes online system. It's CoH the MMORTS.

[Pijama]

GAAAAAAAAAh. :'(

Now watch as the forums obliterate themselves into oblivion.

[Brian]

Bah humbag!

Nice site redesign though.

Company of Heroes Online?Meh. :-\

[SRI-Sajuuk]

there is one more thing that gets me. The Hw2 postcard with THQ's logo instead of sierra. Normally thats grounds for a lawsuit. unless they bought back the license....could be hope yet.

But nothing adds up. Unless ..care to fill me in, cause if it does, i dont get it

[Shuma]

Meh, i hate MMO's and if it has fees? them Meh, and Meh again.

Looks like Relic Priority is CoH and CoH. So what about HW and DoW?

Also then WTF does the Relic 2007 at the end of DC means?

[Couger8116]

well that means back to homeworld 2 modding

[Mnementh]

Heh, the forums link reminds me of the amateurish links on planet dawn of war :p

[Shuma]

Well at least the CoH fans will be happy i guess.

[Reaper]

Even though there isnt a DOW 2 announcement, I half to admit the site re-design is freaking awesome, the set up, all the links everything is top notch.

[Shuma]

Also most of the Site is still down...

[chaps]

Shame on you relic!!! 2 weeks down to redesign a website??? WTF!!!
And coh online... :down:

:censored:! Let's wait for StarCraft2 then...

[Dondanno]

There are still three empty slots at the bottom of the page under 'available titles.' CoH Online is undoubtedly one of them. Don't give up hope yet ;)

[Shuma]

Available titles?

DC-CoH-WA?

[Sanctum]

...

* Sanctum implodes.

[sporty]

An official version of the mod Europe In Ruins? In 2008? And not guaranteed to be released outside of China?
I'm even more impressed :P



It's just the bitterness that we don't really get to see anything really new after all that waiting.

[No Surrender]

Alright guys. Now we know what all the fuss is about, I'm going to go ahead and lock this. No one wants to rummage through 115 pages. If you want to discuss CoH Online or continue to solve the riddle, you're welcome to make new threads. But this thread will just degenerate into "OMG IT R NOT DOW2/HW" from now on if it's not locked.