Homeworld Riddle Thread

[Chip_Ayten]

Rules:

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Ok to get this off in the right direction I will post the first riddle and make it relatively easy. I just want everyone to get into the flow before we start with the hard riddles. Ok here I go.


The shortest distance between two points is a straight line
You should follow my path
Although its not as easy as it seems
I was cherished by your people, forgotton and discovered by your children.
X Y but not Z

[EarthBorn]

Hiigara?

[Beast]

The guildstone inside the Khar-toba?

[Grug]

The Hiigaran Hyperspace Core?

[omega]

Sajuuk.

[Chip_Ayten]

yeah beast main self got it its the guide stone, i made it super simple.

i would like to how you came up with the answer example:

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line - if you look at the stone you can see the direct path from kharak to hiigara

You should follow my path - its the easiest way to hiigara

Although its not as easy as it seems - you had to fight a galactic war to get there

I was cherished by your people, forgotton and discovered by your children. - the exiles created it in hope that later generations would find it, through the sands of time it was forgotton but eventually found by the exiles decendants

X Y but not Z the map is drawn 2-deminsionally (x and y axis)

but i guess since it was so simple an explination was not needed



ok now beast main comes up with a riddle

[Beast]

I suck at teh riddleage but here goes.

We are the key to Sajuuk.
Without us Sajuuk is unattainable.
We are aginst eachother but are the same.
Who are we?

stupidley easy I know.

[Chrome]

The Three Far Jump Cores. One was used by the Bentusi and guarded zealously against the younger races. Another was used to get a shipload of Exiles to Hiigara through a war. And when the third showed up, Makaan and his fleet essentially pitted it against the other two.

[Beast]

nope. but good guess.

[EarthBorn]

The Dreadnaughts?

The Hiigaran and the Vayger Dreadnaughts were against each other.
They are needed to open Balcora Gate.

[Beast]

and earthborn wins the cookie! :beer:

[EarthBorn]

We live in the clouds of gas,
Consuming all who dare to consume the cloud.

^^^
Two lines should be enough.

[Riess]

The protectors of the Gardens of Kadesh.

[EarthBorn]

Yup.
Now for Riess' Riddle, make it tough!

[Silver_Wolf#]

Big,bad,wierd shaped ship that can own Bentusi Tradeships easy.

[Riess]

Eh, got a bit lazy... this one's too easy.

In metal shadow
old ones sleep
guarded by the mindless
tread lightly lest you wake
the ancient beast

[Silver_Wolf#]

I would say the Keepers(be it either from Karos or Abisid).

[jonl90]

In the Metal Shadow- made me think Karos graveyard
old ones sleep- The Dreadnaught?
guarded by the mindless- The Keeper Movers, all automated
tread lightly lest you wake- the Hiigaran MS jumped in and tried to meneuver in and around, but activated the Keepers.
the ancient beast: The Keeper Destroyers and Drones

The Keepers and the Karos Graveyards

[EarthBorn]

Yes, it indeed is the Keepers, but Silver Wolf got it first.

We still need official clarification from Riess, so don't post more thanks. :D

[jonl90]

Silver Wolf and I must have been posting at the same time, me taking longer to process it through to comprehend it, because I don't ever remember seeing Silver Wolf's post until after I posted. Anyhow...

[Starblade]

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line - if you look at the stone you can see the direct path from kharak to hiigara

This is being nitpicky, but it actually isn't a straight line. There are a few bends in it.

As for the answer to the riddle, I thought it was the Emergency Beacon from HW:C at first.

[Riess]

Karos Graveyards is correct. I'll give the point to jonl90.

[Progenitor]

Power unrivalled
millennia untouched
serene in the light
I wait for the scattered

[jonl90]

We have so little classes of ships
but we have hordes of them.
we destroy those that we lurk by.

Meh, probably easy, but I don't know.

[Riess]

Progen: Not your turn. But, uh, Sajuuk?

[Progenitor]

oops, my apologies riess. i forgot about the rules.

and jonl90, is it by any way Kadeshies?

[jonl90]

What do you think? lol.

[Chip_Ayten]

Turanic raider?

We have so little classes of ships - they only have a few fighters frigs and ion arrays
but we have hordes of them. - It seems the raiders have an endless supply of crap.
we destroy those that we lurk by. - self explanitory

[jonl90]

Yep, Chip gets it.
Go Chip.

[Chip_Ayten]

yeah i was going to guess either kadesh or turanic... ok ill try to make a chalenging one now

[Chip_Ayten]

Through the dust
before the truth
after the phantom


Ok try that one remember it could be anything related to the homeworld name/series...

[AMARDA]

Dust Wars?

[Chip_Ayten]

lol amarda no, not that simple

[atmawpn]

I'm guessing it's the Supernova Station mission in HW1.

Through the dust - Means a few things here. It could be referring to the fact that you have to bring your ships through the dust belts in order to avoid the radiation. The other reference is to the Outer Rim Dust Bank which the Kushan fleet has just cleared.

Before the truth - The mission immediately after, Tenhauser Gate, is where you and the Kushan fleet learn of the reason for their Exile, aka the Bentusi revelation mission. I would thus guess that this is the "truth" you're referring to.

After the phantom - A reference to the mission just before, the Sea of Lost Souls. Here, the Phantom is probably a reference to the Ghost Ship, a derelict vessel of great mystery.

And wow, so far these riddles are just cool! :D

[troff]

This is in reference to the riddles about keys, note you could spin off various riddles based on the many keys in HW2.

To explain...

http://www.homeworldarchives.com/hwtoo/pics/homeworld-too-03.jpg

[EarthBorn]

I think that atma got it there, I'm sure his riddle will be super-difficult :D.

My guess is the Ghenna Astroid fields:

Through the Dust: It's dusty.

Before the Truth: The Oracle

After the Phantom: The Bentusi ???

[omega]

Sarum Dust Clouds?

It fits all of those lines to a point anyway. Your ships were undetectable in the clouds(phantoms)
They could only be seen with a probe or a ping or if they engaged in battle since basic sensors were moot in there.(the truth bit)

And the other part is pretty self explanitory.(Through the dust)

I know i'm probably wrong but it was worth a shot. :D

[Chip_Ayten]

well atmawpn got it right for all the right reasons too.


I'm guessing it's the Supernova Station mission in HW1.

Through the dust - Means a few things here. It could be referring to the fact that you have to bring your ships through the dust belts in order to avoid the radiation. The other reference is to the Outer Rim Dust Bank which the Kushan fleet has just cleared.

Before the truth - The mission immediately after, Tenhauser Gate, is where you and the Kushan fleet learn of the reason for their Exile, aka the Bentusi revelation mission. I would thus guess that this is the "truth" you're referring to.

After the phantom - A reference to the mission just before, the Sea of Lost Souls. Here, the Phantom is probably a reference to the Ghost Ship, a derelict vessel of great mystery.

And wow, so far these riddles are just cool!

[atmawpn]

I came to help, but needed help in the end.
I was blinded, but a flame guided me through hostile land.

Can be easy or difficult, depending on your leaning towards whichever game. :D

[EarthBorn]

Let's see-

I came to help, but needed help in the end.

This could mean the Bentusi, Captain Soban...

I was blinded, but a flame guided me through hostile land.

Soban was not blinded, but the Bentusi were, by the beast. Later they disarmed their Flagship and needed help from the Taiidan.

So my guess is- The Bentusi?

[Starblade]

I came to help but needed help in the end.- Captain Elson assisted the Exiles, but required assistance later on.
I was blinded, but a flame guided me through hostile land.- He appears around when the Mothership takes heavy damage, and begins to burn (usually).

So, my guess is Captain Elson.

[atmawpn]

Nope, but the guesses were certainly well thought out though. :)

[Starblade]

I switch to Captain Soban, then. :p

Soban helped Pride of Hiigara, then got captured and needed its help. The second line doesn't really go with it, though.

[EarthBorn]

You Can only make one guess per riddle :D.

This is to prevent random guessing.

[Starblade]

Oops, sorry, I forgot.

I'm hoping this has nothing to do with the Dustwars mod, because I've never played it.

[JAL-18]

The Caal-Shto

I came to help, but needed help in the end.
The Caal-Shto arrived at Aiowa to assist the Bentusi and the Kuun-Lan in their destruction of the Beast, but was subsequently damaged by the Bentusi's self-destruct.

I was blinded, but a flame guided me through hostile land.
Part of this damage was to the Caal-Shto's navigation and sensor systems. The Somtaaw (later Beastslayers - "burn" the Beast) guided the carrier through the Kadiir nebula, past an Imperialist Taiidan outpost.

[atmawpn]

JAL-18 got it right except for the flame part. The flame was intended as a direct reference to the Kuun Lan, which according to the manual, meant "Purifying Flame."

We can now await JAL's riddle. :D

[Chip_Ayten]

bump*

jal, your up for a riddle ;)

[EarthBorn]

Day one, over. If he doesn't get it up by tommorow, atma has to choose someone else.

[JAL-18]

Bah, came down with a horrible flu, I'm not up to coming up with something good. Pass.

[atmawpn]

That being the case, I'll appoint Starblade to do the next riddle then, since Earth's already done one before. :D

[Starblade]

Hiding in ruin,
lurking in shadow,
the cancer comes out,
their masters follow.

[EarthBorn]

Movers.
It's quite self-explainatory.

[Starblade]

I fail. =)

[EarthBorn]

If you try for the obvious, try and make it nearly unrecognizable :).


EarthBorn's riddle no.2:

The Core of the Cores,
Uncapturable, beyond horizon.

[Starblade]

Sajuuk?

'The Core of the Cores'- Well, it combines them, I suppose.
'Uncapturable, beyond horizon'- beyond the event horizons of the black holes?

[Vitechy]

the Progenitor foundry ship

It is where the cores were made, so it is the core of cores,
beyond the horizon, most of it is outside the map, and it is uncapturable


:banana:so exciting:jig:

[Inert]

Hyperspace? The cores were built to generate hyperspace... so that would be their core function. Don't... really... know... just going off intuition.

[EarthBorn]

No, No, and no.
Starblade was the closest :).

[MetalDragoon83]

The Eye of Aaron (or however you spell it)

It is really the core of cores as it hypes you where ever you want in the galaxy.
Uncapturable because you can only unlock it, and beyond horizon meaning beyond the understanding of the current races?

[AMARDA]

Balcora!

The core of cores = The core of the galaxy.
Uncapturable, beyond horizon = No race could take as their own due to the gravtational effects.Also you need the gate to enter.

[Inert]

Eh... I don't think I'm allowed to post another guess after my first one... but might I ask that it starts with an 'H' as well? I am looking at it again, now, with a clearer head and thought it was rather simple.

*should've not have guessed when having a headache*

[EarthBorn]

AMARDA wins :), although the reasons were slightly different.

-Uncapturable means that it was not a hyperspcae core that could be captured.

Beyond Horizon was a literal reference to Event Horizon.

We await your riddle :D.

[AMARDA]

That which we destroyed
What the sand swallowed
That which was our downfall

Now can you get this?

[Chrome]

The city of Saju-ka, which Kiith Gaalsien destroyed in a fit of religious zealotry when they destroyed the equipment holding the enroaching Kharakian sands. When they destroyed the equipment, the city fell to the sands, and thus destroying any and all Gaalsien who were at the location. It was the height of Gaalsien's infamy.

[AMARDA]

Correct! We await your riddle.

[EarthBorn]

Day one over DC!

[ViralHatred]

Oh great its deep's turn, everyone time for thinking caps!

[EarthBorn]

Chrome, time's up.

AMARDA has to choose someone else. Make it someone who has not got a chance yet.

[AMARDA]

Inert, you try.

[Chrome]

Sorry. I just couldn't think of a good one. :/

[TitonicIcon]

Gah from what i've heard on the aim network chromes good a riddles, sure u cant pall one out of the hat?

[Inert]

Ok...

Your capital ships
are mere pawns
to me.

You're always free to ask hints. :)

[Starblade]

Ghost Ship?

Your capital ships are mere pawns to me- The Ghost Ship could take them over with ease. The pawns of your own race, the Fighters and Corvettes, were immune to it, however.

[aussieman]

Maybe the Planet Killers as only the Sajuuk can damage them

[Inert]

Starblade wins; I shouldn't have italicized the wording though. ;)

The riddle was about how the ghost ship takes over your capital ships, effectively making them her pawns.

[Fiirks]

Thats a good one... I hated the ghost ship mission, took me about 3 tries to figure out that I couldn't use my capitol ships and had to use my fighters/vettes.

[aussieman]

:lol:

I had a problem too. For the first few campains I did I just got my corv in oand then out quickly. Then I found out that you could disable the ghost ship and get the Cap Ships!

[EarthBorn]

On topic now guys.
Starblade, Your Riddle 2 please. :D

[Starblade]

Adrift in the calm before the storm.

[EarthBorn]

Sajuuk
If right, I give the point to Dragoon.

[aussieman]

Hyperspace

[atmawpn]

This is very vague, but may I suggest the Bushan-Re?

It was adrift in space due to battle damage, and although it was later attacked by Turanic Raiders, in that mission the Kuun Lan also chanced upon the Naggarok's beacon pod. So it could be the relative "calm" before the eventual "storm" of the Beast.

I'd ask for a hint, but something tells me it's vague for a reason. :D

[Starblade]

Yes, it's vague for a reason. Any more specific and I'd give it away (no one has gotten it yet, but atma is on the right track).

[MetalDragoon83]

I'm saying it's the third Hyperspace Core

-The calm refering to the Helios Ice Fields, always found snow and all calming.

-Bfore the storm refering the the Vayger Storm accross the galaxy.

[DatonKallandor]

The reworked-into-shipyard mothership in Hiigaran orbit shortly pre-Beast Wars?



Daton

[Starblade]

No, and no. Atma was still 'closest', but still far off.

EDIT: If no one gets mine, can I say I win the thread? :p

[Inert]

The Kuun-lan?

It was mining (peacefully) before the "aided" the Hiigaran defense group in M01. The storm could be a reference to the handbook's statement "quiet before the inevitable storm" or something among those lines. The "storm" it refers to is the battle that you fight in M01.

[Fiirks]

Khar-Selim? It was just sitting there adrift before the tauranics showed up and blew it up....

[omega]

The naggarok beacon pod?

[Starblade]

Fiirkan got it. The Khar-Selim made it to the edge of the Kharak system on conventional drives, taking 10 years, making it there just before the 'storm' was unleashed, destroying Kharak, and pushing the Exiles to their destiny.

[aussieman]

:jaw: Good Job Fiirkan.

[Fiirks]

Wow. I'll have to come up with a good one now then.



The final act
Ment to extinguish
But lit two conflagrations
And innumerable fires

[MetalDragoon83]

The FireStorm Bombing of Kharak.

It was meant as the final act against the Kushan
It was meant to wipe them out
But instead it lit up a civil war and lead the Kushan to wage war against the empire
Lit innumerable fires meaning that even the counsil was against it

[Fiirks]

You win. Thought my riddle would last longer than that though. GG.

[aussieman]

When the Taiidan burned Kharak and the mothership survived.

It was ment to kill all the exiles but they started a rebellion and they over threw the Taiidan Empire

[Inert]

The fire-bombing of Kharak.

It was meant to extinguish the Kushans, but forwarded the Taiidani Rebellion and the Kushan's intent to take vengence (the two "conflagrations").

I'm guessing the "innumerable fires" were battles.

edit: beaten by a few seconds... X_x

edit: lol!

[aussieman]

Ah damn 1 min off

[Fiirks]

Haahaha. Glad you all got it, but the first guy wins.

I will say that inert did a good job of explaining it though :nana:

[MetalDragoon83]

Haha 1337 timing, anyway I'll think of one later after work.

[aussieman]

lol 4 mins! Do you think thats the quickest?

[Fiirks]

Maybe it means my riddle was stupid :(

[aussieman]

Nah it was good but the innumerable FIRES sort of gave it away.

[MetalDragoon83]

I think it was your reference to fire in general you had like four I think.

Ok, here's mine:

Armed with ancient knowledge
We came out of the darkness
To stop the madness of others

[Inert]

Bentusi~

They have superior weapons/ships. The "darkness" can be referred to as the void, or "space". And madness of others... well, their intent to destroy each other.

[aussieman]

Maybe Kiith Somtaaw when they were on Kharak?

[Chip_Ayten]

The progs.... their ancient... a forgotton race.... self explanitory. probably wrong though

[MetalDragoon83]

triple nope

followe the aussie man he will lead you to greatness, or the right answer. Which ever.

[EarthBorn]

The Shimmering Path? You know, the path of the 33 Somtaaw temples?

[atmawpn]

Follow the aussie man eh? :)

Could it be Kiith Naabal during the Kushan's stay on Kharak?

They were armed with ancient knowledge... literally. Of course, at that time, such knowledge and technology was considered advanced, advanced enough to unite all the Kiithid.

They were isolated from the war, so coming out of isolation could be an equivalent to coming out of the darkness.

Naabal intervened in the Heresy Wars and stopped them, which was a madness in itself. (Arguing over the origin of Kharak and then some belief of punishment)

[Riess]

Aw, I was going to say Naabal.

[aussieman]

lol

[Fiirks]

I thought it was the Sjet who were isolated at the north pole with knowledge...

[MetalDragoon83]

And Atma wins.

And Sjet was around and nobody was allowed to kill them as they were too valuable for everybody.

[atmawpn]

Meagre explorer
Worse than bombers
If you aim well, the enemy's a goner

Go guess! :D

[aussieman]

Somtaaw Seige Cannon on the Kuun-Laan

[Fiirks]

You're quick with these.

[aussieman]

lol thanks

[atmawpn]

I would prefer guesses to be accompanied by logical explanations.

In the meantime, it's NOT that simple, aussie... :D

[Riess]

Swarming the enemy with probes? :p

[atmawpn]

EDIT: Oh to heck with that. Riess gets the point. :D

The first two lines are self-explanatory, but If you aim well...

No one remembers Probe Bombing any more... :(

[Fiirks]

Probe golf! I love doing that... People get really pissed off if you drop a probe into thier swarm while its parked and scuttle it. Great tactic, I cant believe I didnt think of it!

Fiirkan|SF slaps self around a bit with a large trout

[Riess]

Yeah, couldn't remember the name of the maneuver. Probe bombing is what I had in mind, "If you aim well" is what gave it away.
Now...

/me tries to think of something.

[aussieman]

I have never heard of probe bombing before! And next time i will try to explain my answers atma.

[Chip_Ayten]

the hgn sensors distortion probe has the perfect design for a self destruct area bomb

[Fiirks]

Its from HW1. Old school Chiken players used to do that all the time

[Chip_Ayten]

ah yes chicken... us FLS and chicken has some memorable games together ;)

[omega]

Bawk? :chicken: Probe bombing worked wonders used to piss everyone off if it was done properly.

I learned how from some of my older feathered bretheren.

[EarthBorn]

Enough talk about probe bombing guys, this is a Riddle Thread.
Riess was not able to think of anything, atmawpn has to give someone else the chance.

[atmawpn]

I will assume you've been in contact with Riess or something, so I'll reappoint.

Fiirkan next I guess. Please make it less obvious this time. :D

[Fiirks]

Ok... Probe bombing inspires this one

Cheats for Homeworld?
I can name a few.
Try them
Kaboom!

[AMARDA]

Success? is that correct?

[death_ab]

Seige Cannon?

After all people often call it cheating if you use it

[Chrome]

He means HOMEWORLD, not Homeworld: Cataclysm.

I'm going to guess kamikazing resource collectors. A few people I've talked to consider that a dirty trick--they're not combat units, and you have to MAKE them kami. (Which, btw, I can't seem to get 'em to do that, lol.) Several can take out quite a lot. :D Hence the "Kaboom."

[Inert]

Ramming. Just... yes. Ramming.

[atmawpn]

Or was it ACCESS?

It's puzzling, cos there's a few of these evil "cheats" out there... *snickers*

[aussieman]

Could it be rammimg out of Hyperspace?

[Fiirks]

Well, two people got it. Access, Success, Essential, there are a few out there that are lots of fun. Armada posted first, so hes the winner!

I was playing in a 2v2 one day. I told the other team "Press HOME and then type in ACCESS to make all your ships indestructible". Before I could whisper to my ally not to do it, he had blown himself up! The best part was though, both of the other guys did it too! :D

Silly noobs.

[Starblade]

I remember when I was going to tell someone to use access (we were all skilled, so it was a joke), but forgot to hit T to talk, so I blew myself up. 7 'WTF?'s popped up instantly, rofl.

[Fiirks]

Hahahaha... I did a similar thing too. While at school I play alot of starcraft with my friends in the dorm. In Starcraft, the talk command is set to the "enter" button. In Homeworld, ENTER takes you to the last notification, so if a ship launches and it says "Ion Cannon Frigate completed" and you hit enter (like I did) you zoom to your ms... Unfortunately, I wasnt paying close attention and my typing contained E followed by SS (I forget what hte word was) and KABOOM.

[AMARDA]

An attack of a planet.
The destruction of an Empire.

Can you get this?

[Inert]

The destruction of Kharak brought the downfall of the Taiidani empire...?

[DatonKallandor]

The destruction of Taii brings down the Hiigaran Empire.


Daton

[AMARDA]

Nope, notice I did not say destruction of the planet.

Daton got it.

[EarthBorn]

AMARDA, the Hiigarans did NOT have an Empire, but a republic. (This is according to the cannon script, not the Dustwars one.) :D
Proves that your riddle is invalid.

[Starblade]

I'm also fairly certain Taii wasn't blown up, just bombed. Sort of like Kharak, but to a much lesser extent, iirc. But that has to do with the answer, not the riddle.

[Aesaar]

the Homeworld war

[Aesaar]

The orbital missiles fell for a full day upon the Imperial Palace and every military facility upon Taiidan's surface.

From the Homeworld Shipyards.
Taiidan wasn't destroyed, only bombed, and then again, only the palace and military bases.

And the Hiigarans did have a republic, as EarthBorn said.

[aussieman]

But didnt the Bentusi say "A galactic war brought the destruction of your anchient empire" or something like that from the original Homeworld after you save them from the Taiidan?

Sorry Ancient (bad speller)

Heres something from the Homeworld Shipyards:
"In the First Time, some 4,000 years ago, a long and terrible war brought about the collapse of the ancient Kushan empire"

Dont even know if all this is right anyway cause its Armadas Riddle.

[AMARDA]

http://hwshipyards.relicnews.com/hw2/hiigaran_history.htm

Thats what I based the riddle on.

[hiigarasjet]

heres my attempt

the three unite
to destroy one
but the destruction of one
lead to many.

[aussieman]

Id say Sajuuk as the three cores united inside the ship. The Sajuuk was going to be used to destroy Makkan but then he was killed by the Higgarans just trying to keep Sajuuk out of his hands. This then leads the Higgarans to go back to Higgara to lift the Vagyr Seige where the bombing platforms attacked. So I guess the "lead to many" part was either the Bombing platforms or the Higarans Killed when one of those missles got through (or so the story line says)

[hiigarasjet]

that was close but not the answer.

[Aesaar]

The three batteries you have to put in a generator in the Karos Graveyard in mission 8 of HW2. You destroy a Keeper, but in Mission 10(I think) you face off against many.

[hiigarasjet]

nope thats not it either..but good try

[Fiirks]

Why did some random dude get to go randomly?

[AMARDA]

Higara, last mission of HW2

[hiigarasjet]

sorry for just going randomly, fiirkan and amarda you had it close the answer is

the three hyperspace cores were united to awake sajuuk and destroy the vaygr but in the end it unlocked the eye or arain, which lead to the many hyperspace, gateways...

[Aesaar]

Who's turn is it?

[MetalDragoon83]

Daton's turn if he wants

[Fiirks]

I believe that Chip gets to decide who goes next, so untill then, lets chill.

[aussieman]

Shouldnt Daton get it as he didnt have his riddle oin the first place or havent I read the rules properly?

[EarthBorn]

I think AMARDA should ask another riddle, since his wasn't valid.
Still, let Chip decide.

[EarthBorn]

I think AMARDA should ask another riddle, since his wasn't valid.
Still, let Chip decide.

EDIT: NEXT DAY

No response from Chip. I think that Daton should get on with it now...

[Fiirks]

Since nobody is posting here, shall I make one? I'll leave it up to earthborn since the thread's author hasnt replied in awhile.

[DatonKallandor]

I have given
all that I know of.
You do not understand

Use it or not, your choice.


Daton

[Starblade]

Earthborn said you were up Daton, so it's what we're going with.

Hm, that's a hard one. I'll have to think about it (I'll post answer in a new post).

[Chip_Ayten]

somebody call me? sorryi havent been following along whats happening?

[EarthBorn]

Chip: Is it ok if Daton gives a riddle? We don't know what to do if a riddle is invalid but someone gives the correct answer.

Daton: Is the answer Karan Sjet?

[MetalDragoon83]

I say the Bentusi.

They gave you all that they know through the three HW games and yet the Kushan/Somtaaw/Hiigarians never really understtod they or their ways.

[aussieman]

I say Sajuuk giving the galaxy Hyperspace but they never truly understand it.

[DatonKallandor]

None have it yet. Chrome knows it, but I dont think she'll spoil it.


Daton

[Starblade]

Is it the Oracle?

"I have given all that I know of"- Leading you around places, showing the memory banks, and so on.
"You do not understand"- The Pride of Hiigara was led there, but didn't know why?

[DatonKallandor]

:disagree: Far away, if I may say so.


Daton

[Starblade]

Hm, this is a hard one. It doesn't have to do with that mod mentioned in the original post, does it?

[DatonKallandor]

Not at all.


Daton

[Chip_Ayten]

Well if a riddle is invalid because there was still an active riddle or the author was not the winner of a previous riddle the riddle in question does not count. which means the answer that comes along with the invalid riddle holds no water.

But to prevent massive confusion and this threads inevitable sinkage, I guess daton can post a new one since the last acceptable riddle was some time ago.

[EarthBorn]

Well if a riddle is invalid because there was still an active riddle or the author was not the winner of a previous riddle the riddle in question does not count. which means the answer that comes along with the invalid riddle holds no water.

But to prevent massive confusion and this threads inevitable sinkage, I guess daton can post a new one since the last acceptable riddle was some time ago.

That's exectly what I thought. Carry on with Daton's riddle people. ;)

[Inert]

Too.. hard... and.... vague....

Hint... please....?

[troff]

Daton:

Assuming the three red lines are the riddle itself (and not the fourth black line).

Is it Karaan? She's given up a lot for everyone, yet no one understands what she is going through.

[edited:]
Sorry, didn't see Earthborn's answer post (great minds think alike, what can I say...?).

Erm, if 'I' is referring to a person/thing and not a race (I was gonna say the Keepers) then is it the Progenitors? Their stuff is around for us to use and they've given their all since they're dead.

Offtopic (2 things):
- In future please encapsulate your riddles with "quotes" to avoid confusion.

- Chrome is a girl? :dolt:

"Even more intriguing than the realisation of the Progenitors in the universe was the discovery of the 'female HW player'" <- please, this is a joke only so no girl/boy sex demographic offtopic posts or threads

[EarthBorn]

Is it Karaan? She's given up a lot for everyone, yet no one understands what she is going through.

Offtopic:
Chrome is a girl? :dolt:

1) See my first reply. :D
2) You came to know that today? :moose:

EDIT:
troff, all the riddles are coloured red to avoid misunderstandings. :)
I thought that would be 'neat', so it's red instead of quotes, since riddles are not quotes.

PS- I'm flattered, but both of us are wrong :|.

[DatonKallandor]

Ok, since you seem to be needing a hint: Its not a person - nor a race.
Edit: Actually it IS a person - but you wont find it if you are looking for persons. (does that make sense?)


Daton

[Inert]

No, not really. :p

J/k.

To be honest I am beyond stumped. I can only say the Kushan-Kadesh meeting where the ambassadors reveal the fact that they are kin and their mission. The Kadesh fail to believe them (fail to understand their purpose).

*scratches head* Must be way off...

[DatonKallandor]

It is, Inert. It is. Waaay off. :bandit:

[NovaBurn]

The movers

[Starblade]

Pity we can only guess once, I think I have it now.

[Chip_Ayten]

Oh an remember you *can* post more than 1 guess just not consecutively and not in a spamming manner

[Chrome]

Troff...the Makaan Fangirl stuff on my avatar/signature escaped you until TODAY? I mean, a guy wouldn't claim to be a fangirl..........right?

/me stares in bewildered shock, then keels over as the OMGWTF kicks in.

PS. There are other female HW/Cata/HW2 players I know of: punkz (who plays I believe HW and Cata), and Deionarra (who mods HW2). I'm sure there are others, but those two are the most well-known here. I'll play on WON every once in a while, but I'm not very good at it. And the one time I tried HW2 Multi, LAMEspy wouldn't even let the game start.

That answer your questions about this mystical demographic? :tooth:

[EarthBorn]

:lol:

Daton: Is it the Khar-Toba?

The Khar-Toba gave the Kushans Hyperdrive tech, which they did not understand as well as leading to advances in Powerplant tech and alloys.

[Starblade]

Punkz is female? Huh.

Okay, my second guess is 'Keeper', due to the second line 'You do not understand'.

"The Keeper is aware. The Keeper understands. The Keeper has seen the enemy."

[EarthBorn]

Starblade: What exectly did the Keeper give the Hiigs? The Dreadnought?

[DatonKallandor]

The Keepers didnt really give anything to the Hiigarans. Atleast not willingly.

Hint: The "giving" was done willingly.


Daton

[Void]

Beast?

[DatonKallandor]

What did the Beast ever give willingly?


Daton

[Starblade]

You said it's a person earlier, but you wouldn't find him/her if you were looking for persons...and gave everything it knew willingly...


Is it the Turanic Saboteur who set off a bomb in the Kuun-Lan?

I have given willingly: The bomb, the knowledge of where the Naggarok is
All that I know of: Again, the Naggarok
You do not understand: Why would the Turanic give in, and why would the Taiidan reinforcements back off?

As for your 'won't find if looking for persons' clue, you weren't looking for people, you were looking for the location of the Naggarok.

[Fiirks]

The Bentusi told us everything they could, but we didn't understand them very well.

Bentusi?

[Starblade]

That's been guessed already.

[DatonKallandor]

Another hint, spoilierized since it might be too big of a hint:

Its in the manuals - not in the games


Daton

[Starblade]

Curses, I thought I had it too.

[troff]

Get to it people: :flame: :flame: :flame:

Homeworld 1 Manual (HW1MTH)
http://www.HomeworldArchives.com/hw1-documents.html

Homeworld: Cata Manual (HWCM)
http://www.homeworldarchives.com/hwc-documents.html

Homeworld 2 Backstory
http://32bit.HomeworldArchives.com

Homeworld 2 Concept Story (warning: might not be canon)
http://www.homeworldarchives.com/hw2-downloads.html

[Beast]

Captin ellsion?

you don't understand: the Kushan didn't know if it was a trap or not.

I gave:he gave his life helping the Kushan reclaim Hiigara, and he help bring about the birth of the republic Taiidan.


all I knew: he willingly told them the location of the Hyper inhibiter, helping them reclaim Hiigara.

[EarthBorn]

It's in the manuals only BeastMain.

[Starblade]

Not to mention that Elson wouldn't die if you were good enough.

[Fiirks]

Elson can die?

/me didn't know that it was possible for somebody to let Elson die in the last mission.

[MetalDragoon83]

I never had Elson die in the last mission except for when I captured a ship and he started firing on it so my ships opened up on him, he went poof in a blue ball of ionic death.

As for the riddle, I am thinking of .... man I got no idea, had something there for a moment..... drat

[EarthBorn]

Daton: Your Answer Please...
No-onw seems to be able to give the correct one, and I think we all would like this thread to live on, as there are many riddles left to ask. :)

The next riddle maker is up to you.

[DatonKallandor]

And the answer is.....Jakuul.

I have given - the Star Metal Scrolls
all that I know of. - Supposedly contain all the knowledge of the gods
You do not understand - the Kushan could not translate them

I think that was fairly straightforward.

Also, I nominate Starblade because I like his "Turanic Saboteur" solution.


Daton

[Starblade]

Wow, It'll be hard to come up with one as challenging as yours, Daton. :D

I was the first, not the last.
I struck first, and in the end,
watched it all unravel.

[Fiirks]

That tiny little tauranic fighter that was practically off the map in the final mission of HW1. I remember I saw that red dot and sent a probe out for it and it took a long time to get there.


They struck first, with the attacks on the Khar-Selim and then the botched attacks on the mothership. In the end they sat back at the edge of the final map and watched the emperor get his ass handed to him.

[Starblade]

Wow, that was fast. You win.

[Fiirks]

w00t. Now to come up with a good riddle.

This is quite a good thread, GG Chip!


* Fiirkan SF thinks.


One Bentusi
Many others
Look left


Enjoy. Maybe its really easy or its really hard, I don't know which.

[atmawpn]

The Bentusi cargo barge?

One Bentusi - there's only one tradeship.

Many others - surrounded by Taiidan

Look left - the cargo barge leaves the ship and ends up on the left side of the tradeship before it gets blown up (If you look from the golden rear, since that is always the side that faces the Mothership)

Maybe I'm wrong, but that was the first image that came to mind.

[aussieman]

The Bentusi Tradeship in Cata.

One bentusi - only one bentusi.
Many others - All the beast ships .
Look left - im assuming that its the beast cruser that tries to subvert it.

It probly not on the left but i hope it fits.

[Fiirks]

Both of you are wrong.

[EarthBorn]

The Great Harbor Shpi of Bentus?

One Bentusi <--Bentus is 'the last of the Bentusi'

Many others
Look left <--There are more who escaped to another galaxy in Cata

[Starblade]

The Caal-Shto Carrier?

One Bentusi- Bentusi Tradeship, obviously.
Many others- The Hiigaran fighters, the Beast attackers.
Look left- If I recall correctly, to the west of the Kuun-Lan the battle was already going on, and even farther west the Caal-Shto arrived to send aid.

There's one other thing I can think of, but as I've guessed, we'll have to wait and see.

[Fiirks]

Nope. Sorry. You can guess more than once, just not in a spamming manner.

If nobody gets it by tomorrow night I'll give a hint.

[MetalDragoon83]

At the end of HW1 when the counsil Hypers in:

One Bentusi- Only one tradeship on the counsil

Many others- The other races on the counsil

Look left- I believe that the other ship (Ironically Fiirkan SF's Avatar) Appeared to the left of the Bentusi.

[Archangel of Death]

The Galactic Council ship.

Yah... just aggreing with MetalDragoon on this one, except he didn't actually say it. :hmm:

[Fiirks]

Dragoon got it. Thats why it says look left, just see my avatar XD

Gl thinking up a riddle Dragoon.

/me enjoys the fact that his newest riddle was harder than his earlier ones

[MetalDragoon83]

yay, riddle number two for me and here it is:

I was the leader of my People
I was given a vision
It forever changed our ways

[Chip_Ayten]

I know my guess is a little obvious, thats why its probably wrong.

Karen? for obvious reasons.

[Chrome]

The Somtaaw-Sa who had the vision of Sajuuk revealing the iron-rich ore in the ground. She ordered her people to dig, and they found the ore, which turned Somtaaw from a religious to a mining kiith. It gave them a new lifestyle and a new value to the Kushan (and later Hiigaran) people.

[troff]

Damn DeepChrome beat me to it...

BTW my Eve Online nick is Naar Somtaaw... :giggler:

[MetalDragoon83]

Yup, the Chromester got it. Twas Kuura Somtaaw.

Thought it be a little harder than that, underestimated Chrome I did and now we have to suffer one of her riddles.

[Starblade]

Thats why it says look left, just see my avatar XD

So you gave Minimal Skin the finger? ;)

[EarthBorn]

Chrome, you're up, so bring Qwaar-Jet to Bear! ;)
If you can't think of one, like last time, tell us who should make another one.

If you have thought of one, then we will try to be ready for it.:D

[Fiirks]

So you gave Minimal Skin the finger? ;)


You know it! I didn't realize when I made my riddle that people would not be seeing my avatar. As 1/3 of the riddle, being on minimal would make it really hard.

Oh well. I'm waitin for Chrome's riddle, me thinks it will be hard.

[Chrome]

OK....let's see....
Lonely wasteland
Hiding in its depths
The jewel in Makaan's eye

Have at it. :D

[Chip_Ayten]

the dreadnaught?

its located somewhere in the karos graveyard
its been saught out by makaan

[MetalDragoon83]

I want to say the third hyperspace core:
Lonely wasteland- Found in the Helios Ice Fields
Hiding in its depths- The Third Core was in Helios
The jewel in Makaan's eye- It was Makaan's Pride and joy as it let him invade Hiigara and try to rule the Galaxy with Sajuuk

Edit: was it Hethium? I'm at work and can't make sure.

[EhraniNavy]

The Hyperspace Core that Makaan found that made him Sajuuk'Khem.

Lonely wasteland...the Hethlim Ice Fields
Hiding in its depths
The jewel in Makaan's eye - the Hyperspace Core


EDIT: DA 1 minute too slow!

[Chrome]

Hmmmmm, close. The Core was too obvious but both of you were verrrrry close.

In fact it's so blatantly obvious I'm surprised neither of you picked up on it. Tsk tsk tsk.... :b

[General Nuke Em]

Sajuuk?

[EarthBorn]

The Hethium Ice fields where Makaan found the Core, aka, the Jewel of his eyes?


Lonely wasteland <--The Ice Fields
Hiding in its depths <--The core was somewhere
The jewel in Makaan's eye <--The Third Core! OMG!

[Chrome]

Nope.

[troff]

Lonely wasteland <--Where Sajuuk is/was
Hiding in its depths <--Amongst/near the black holes
The jewel in Makaan's eye <-- Makaan thought he had the right to the Eye of Aaran which is opened by inserted Sajuuk inside - thus the eye, he also wanted it badly thus had an eye for it, or was eyeing it.

[aussieman]

Ghenna Asteroid Field where Makaan was trying to find the oracle that would lead him to sajuuk

Lonely wasteland - On the edges of the Vaygr control zone
Hidding in its depths - deep within an asteroid
The jewel of Makaans eye - He wanted to get sajuuk and to do that he needed to know where balcora is and have the three cores

[Chrome]

Wait, wait, wait, I posted that Nope in response to GNE. Dammit you people keep posting after that! X_x

For the record EB is correct.

Dragoon got close, but as he officially said the Far Jumper, I had to say no.

Case closed. :)

And on a bit of OT...troff, do you have any idea what you just said about the Eye? "...which is opened by inserted (inserting) Sajuuk inside." Think about this a moment, and explain to me how the hell you missed the bucketload of innuendo you just gave us? :rofl:

[EarthBorn]

:rofl:
ok, here I go:


Where I stand;
Heat is killed,
By pleasant land.
The Truth came to me.
I saw reality.

[troff]

For the record DeepChrome I only came up with that answer when you mentioned that EB's answer was wrong. Thus I KNEW it was his answer but in absence of that, you must admit the only answer would have been mine about the 'Eye' of Makaan was Sajuuk.

[Troff turns smug head]
BTW you happen to be talking to one of the foremost experts of HW, creator of the HW archives site and author of HW:Too, one of the foremost examples of HW literature in the galaxy before and today... :bunny:

Where I stand; - Archeologist Sagald stood
Heat is killed, - in the Khar-Toba's wreck's shade OR referring to the fact that the Guidestone was imprevious to intense heat
By pleasant land. - in the Great Desert on the true homeworld Kharak (home sweet home thus pleasant)
The Truth came to me. - that they were not on it
I saw reality. - that the true Homeworld was Hiigara

[EarthBorn]

[Troff turns smug head]
BTW you happen to be talking to one of the foremost experts of HW, creator of the HW archives site and author of HW:Too, one of the foremost examples of HW literature in the galaxy before and today... :bunny:

Where I stand; - Archeologist Sagald stood
Heat is killed, - in the Khar-Toba's wreck's shade OR referring to the fact that the Guidestone was imprevious to intense heat
By pleasant land. - in the Great Desert on the true homeworld Kharak (home sweet home thus pleasant)
The Truth came to me. - that they were not on it
I saw reality. - that the true Homeworld was Hiigara

Sorry but you happen to be wrong. :p
BTW, you did not even give the final answer, only the solving of the riddle...it;s still wrong though.

[troff]

[whispers to EB]

I have to let others have a chance while still appearing good you know... ssshhh keep it a secret... :sneaky:

(btw I think I know the answer now...)

[Starblade]

Not really sure if you're asking who, what, or where, so here goes:

Is it the Super Nova Research Station?

Where I stand/Heat is killed/By pleasant land: The Mothership was shielded from the Supernova's radiation in the dust clouds.
The Truth came to me/ I saw Reality: It's a research station, seeking truth. Not to mention the reality of the situation: leave the clouds and die, rather like how you sneaked along your path to Hiigara. You took the easy ways through (including the weakest guarded Hyperspace Inhibitor at the Bridge of Sighs).

[EarthBorn]

No.
I thought it was quite obvious!

[Riess]

Majiir Paktu, who found the southern polar region of Kharak with its large ocean and fertile lands behind?

[Starblade]

You know, I really should go read the HW manual again. Specifically, all the Kiith listings, and their histories.

[EarthBorn]

Majiir Paktu, who found the southern polar region of Kharak with its large ocean and fertile lands behind?

No, but close.

[EarthBorn]

Since it's two days now, I'll give a hint: It's a place.

[Chrome]

The Guidestone room itself in Khar-Toba?

The "Heat is killed / By pleasant land" part is what stuck out at me. The heat of Kharak killed by the promise of a pleasant world--Hiigara.

"The Truth came to me / I saw reality"--The realization that the Guidestone indicated Hiigara WAS a real place, and that there was a flight path to there clearly delineated by it.