Homeworld Riddle Thread

[Beast]

Hmm, total shot in the dark here but:


The Eye of araan?

"I'am forever present, and forever secret": It was present throughout the HW series, but never known.

Ships pass through me without ever hitting me": When a ship enters Hyperspace they pass through the eye's networks without knowing.

"I have been traped inside ships": The Hyperspace cores were the Key for the eye, and they were used inside the Mothership, Bentus, etc.

"I have been let loose on the Galaxy countless times": The eye was posibly active when the Progens were still around, and again when Sajuuk united the cores?

"Never seen, Never felt, Never known": The eye wasn't discoverd till sajuuk united the cores, so during HW1 and cata, ships would enter and pass through the hyperspace networks that make up the eye without ever known or feeling it.

[Starblade]

Sorry, that's not correct.

[EarthBorn]

The Process of phasing!

The Keepers eyes shine brightly when they phase!

[Starblade]

Haha, Riess suggested that hint over IRC. I said 'Watch a million posts pop up saying 'zomg it's teh keepers lol''. Needless to say, no. :p

[Inert]

Less... vague... hints.




Please.

[Busby]

The propellant and exhaust of cap. ships?
I am forever present, and forever secret. You can't see them (secret), but they are there (present)
Starships pass through me without ever hitting me. You can't hit the "exhaust" but you can past through them.
I have been trapped inside ships and let loose upon the galaxy countless times, never seen, never felt, never known. It is held withen the ship in fuel tanks (never seen, felt, or known), but has been "let lose" a lot.

Yea, properly wrong but it is worth a guess.

[Starblade]

Inst: Would you rather I came out and gave it away?

Busby, no. By the way, letting loose gas is hilarious. :p

Courtesy of Riess, a shiny new hint:

I am near or far, ever watching.
I will follow your forces into battle.

[SquidDNA]

The answer is "The Camera."

:lol:

Seriously, y'all, awesome riddle! Okay I'm next, I'll try to make a good one.

[Caesar]

Death.

[Riess]

The Squid got it. We await his riddle after he's read up on all this.

[Starblade]

Ha ha, nice Squid. Did you get the answer before or after reading the hints (both of which were Riess's)? I await your riddle, which is hopefully just as hard as ours was. :D

[SquidDNA]

No flashing banners wave
But wind to fly your insigna
Make with a charge
Deadly tangles
Changing angles
A painting in the void

[Starblade]

18:20] <SquidDNA> I fear this will be too easy
[18:20] <Riess> postpostpostpost
[18:20] <BlackStar> It only seems easy because your ken is immensely above ours.
[18:20] <Salty> aye
[18:21] <Salty> and the fact that i know bugger all about either game
[18:21] <Starblade> =p
[18:21] <BlackStar> me neither =o
[18:21] <Riess> heh
[18:21] <Salty> hehe
[18:21] <SquidDNA> Posted
[18:21] <Starblade> the answer is 'engine trail' isn't it?
[18:21] <SquidDNA> GODDAMNIT
[18:21] <BlackStar> XD
[18:21] <Starblade> ROFLMAO
[18:21] <BlackStar> XD
[18:21] <Riess> LOL
[18:21] <SquidDNA> ;D

Here's the next riddle, which happens to be Squid's, Riess's, and my sick love child:

A silent ally,
Sharp corners, edges.
My cousin fights but I don't bite,
(Where is Natalie Portman when you need him?)

[Riess]

It's the second hyperspace core, lol!!!!!!7 ;)

[Starblade]

OMG HOW DID J00 NO?!?!?!?!!!!!!!1111one

[Deionarra]

Squid, riddles are ususaly supposed to take longer to answer than to read. :giggler:

Starships pass through me without ever hitting me.
But, in HW2 at least, the camera gets pushed aside if you try and put it in the path of a ship.

/me goes off in a huff

[Progenitor]

care to..give an explanation for those riddle answers?

[SquidDNA]

No flashing banners wave
But wind to fly your insigna
Make with a charge
Deadly tangles
Changing angles
A painting in the void
Engine trails of strike craft adopt your ship colors as their own, thus act like flags to identify warring forces. There's no wind in space, so you have to "make your own" by attacking-- having the strike craft advance. And having a few dozen strike craft attack one another creates a mess of those.

[Inert]

Is it the Bentusi?

A silent ally, - They don't say much / They don't do much
Sharp corners, edges. - Aside from the circular front, they have sharp edges/corners (the ship)
My cousin fights but I don't bite, - Possibly referring to the Progenitors
(Where is Natalie Portman when you need him?) - Who?

[EarthBorn]

The Background!
A painting in the void.

[Progenitor]

A silent ally,
Sharp corners, edges.
My cousin fights but I don't bite,
(Where is Natalie Portman when you need him?)

ok, i think riess got it yes?

care to give an explanation riess? and thanks squid. :)

[Riess]

Blade and I were kidding; I was there when they made up the riddle. It's still open; keep guessing.

[EarthBorn]

Wait a second: Whose riddle is active right now?
Squid's I guess?

[Riess]

No, Starblade's, which was done in cooperation with Squid. The Natalie Portman one.

[Starblade]

Judging from how no one's guessing, I think we confused everyone completely and utterly.

[hw.faLcon]

on squids riddle, i am guessing those at at garden of kadesh.

[Riess]

Squid's riddle was solved within 15 seconds of posting, though.

[Starblade]

I'm so very glad people read the first half of my post.

[Riess]

Squid has spewed forth a new hint:

Flashy beams, spewing rounds, forget them
It's what's on the inside that counts

Use it well!

[Chrome]

Kushan gravwell generator in HW1

Silent ally--doesn't do anything but SIT there
Sharp edges--notice the prongs on it when it's active? Those look like big space knives or something.
My cousin fights (?) but I don't bite--it's not an offensive, but a defensive weapon
(Natalie Portman...) --a hint at this being the Kushan not the Taiidan generator, as Portman is sometimes seen as Karan

The hint fits this fairly closely as well.

Flashy beams, spewing rounds, forget them -- can't shoot when that generator is on
It's what's on the inside that counts -- the systems of the gravwell are what do the job, not any guns mounted on the exterior.

[Inert]

The Kushan Cloak Generator?

A silent ally - it cloaks things...? ok it's abstract, but still.
Sharp corners, edges. - *looks at ship* well...
My cousin fights but I don't bite, - probably referring to the Kushan cloaked fighter "Spectre"
(Where is Natalie Portman when you need him?) - ...pass

[Supernova]

Meh, I'll take a stab.

Taiidan Cloak Generator.

A silent ally. - It keeps thing hidden, and with three of em, permanently; always felt like sub warfare going around with 3 cloak gens and a squad of sal-vettes.

Sharp corners, edges. - Like everything taiidan it usually has quite squrare edges, engines etc; the cloak gen has that nice long pylon sticking out of it for no apparent reason. Other the the center section its fairly well a plate with sharp edges and corners.

My cousin fights but I don't bite. - I think this one has more to do with the last line then some might think so I'll explain it first.

(Where is Natalie Portman when you need him?) - As Chrome said, Natalie Portman could be identified with Karan. However, unless there some sort of hidden gender crisis going on here no one knows about, she is most certainly female...The him suggest that its not Kushan, but Taiidan. Every ship (except for those few) in HW had a counterpart in the other species fleet. Thus suggesting that switched gender may also lead towards switched sides... no idea if that made sense but hey its worth a shot.

As for the "My cousin fights but I don't bite." it may refer to the cloaked fighter on the kushan side. Its cousin that tips me off here, if brother or sister one would expect immediate relative, a ship of their side, however being a cousin it just has to be a ship related to it -- so the Kushan cloaked fighter.

No idea if Im close, but, hey wth.

[Fiirks]

The DFF. Spewing rounds, it deflects them, same with the changing angles thing.

Its cousin is the Drone frig, which indeed fights (and bites) but he doesnt.

Silent ally, it doesnt say much.

[SquidDNA]

I don't need a push
I'm fine -- this isn't a jumping puzzle.

Really if nobody gets that I'm going to pound my head into the desk. :)

[Progenitor]

salvage corvette?

[MetalDragoon83]

The Kushan MotherShip?

A silent ally,- In game it just site there, unless Karan talks.
Sharp corners, edges.- It has little pointy anntenna things in the front.
My cousin fights but I don't bite,- The other class of ships it produces, fighters, frigates, etc.
(Where is Natalie Portman when you need him?)- Karan = Natalie (him?)

Flashy beams, spewing rounds, forget them- It doesn't have much defence.
It's what's on the inside that counts- Produces the ships that fight in side its foundries.

I don't need a push- Has crappy conventional drives.
I'm fine -- this isn't a jumping puzzle.- But it does have Hyperspace capabilities.

This is all probly wrong but I figure I'd give it a try.

[Starblade]

You're all aware Natalie isn't bald anymore right?

And yeah, it's wrong.

[Supernova]

Arg this is going to drive me nuts now :\

The portman idea I think is out the window, and the only thing I could think of with the "this isn't a jumping puzzle" was starfishers avatar...

[Progenitor]

hell, the riddle's HARD.

any..coherant hint? :)

[Starblade]

I'm afraid anything more would include me jumping out of your computer and screaming the answer at you. :p

Eh, here's one. Let's see if it doesn't help.

I exist, but I only have power in an alternate reality.

[Progenitor]

the GAME itself?

[Unk]

The TMAT/Planetkiller?

A silent ally - No vessel attributed to the TMAT ever speaks.

Sharp corners, edges - The planetkiller was pretty pointy.

My cousin fights but I don't bite - The planetkiller was unarmed, but the other vessel attributed to the TMAT (that rock thing from HW1 had a pretty powerful ion cannon.

(Where is Natalie Portman when you need him?)- Beats me with this one.

Flashy beams, spewing rounds, forget them - Planetkillers were all but immune to almost every weapon. Also unarmed.

It's what's on the inside that counts - ADW production?

I don't need a push - Reactionless drive.

I'm fine -- this isn't a jumping puzzle. - Some wierd hyperdrive.

[Starblade]

Sorry Unkn0wn, that's not it. Progenitor, that's clever (and not too far from how we were thinking), but that's still not it either.

[troff]

Eerr, the science modules?

A silent ally - They just sit there...

Sharp corners, edges - they have them

My cousin fights but I don't bite - they aren't offensive

(Where is Natalie Portman when you need him?)- 'Her' methinks - try to avoid culture references

Flashy beams, spewing rounds, forget them - they aren't offensive

It's what's on the inside that counts - They do research

I don't need a push - They just tag along with the mothership

I'm fine -- this isn't a jumping puzzle. - The way they connect up is like some sort of puzzle.

[Starblade]

Nova wins.


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[11:50] <Starblade> hi all

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[11:50] <Xypher> lo

[11:50] <Riess> hi

[11:50] <Starblade> riess

[11:50] <bluevorlon> hey

[11:50] <Riess> that is me

[11:51] <Starblade> i can't stop laughing over how no one can solve the hw riddle

[11:51] <Starblade> especially after squid's clue

[11:51] <Riess> right

[11:51] <Riess> I think with only the clues and disregarding the original riddle, it would actually be easier

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[11:51] <Starblade> yeah

[11:51] <Starblade> hell, ignoring every single clue but squid's last one would work wonders

[11:52] <Riess> that should be the next clue: focus on the clues

[11:52] <Starblade> link to what we're talking about: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?p=1486882

[11:53] <Starblade> i'll be right back

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[11:56] <Starblade> this is the most exciting irc conversation ever

[11:56] <Riess> if you want really exciting, visit #art

[11:56] <Riess> oh well

[11:57] <bluevorlon> man I suck at riddles

[11:57] <Riess> heh

[12:01] <Starblade> at least give a guess vorlon

[12:01] <Starblade> riess you liar

[12:01] <Starblade> no one's in #art

[12:01] <Starblade> oh wait

[12:01] <Starblade> here comes the list of guys

[12:02] <Riess> oh, but it is exciting

[12:02] <Riess> you can wait months for a word to be spoken

[12:02] <Riess> thrilling!

[12:02] <Starblade> wiiiiiiiii!

[12:03] <NovaBurn> nah hw2 still runs like shit even with 2GB of ram

[12:03] <Starblade> heh

[12:04] <Starblade> while waiting for that pesky vaygr fighter to load

[12:04] <NovaBurn> engine on that game sucks ass

[12:04] <Starblade> figure our riddle out:

[12:04] <Starblade> http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?p=1486882

[12:04] <Starblade> gogogo

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[12:04] <Starblade> hi HOH

[12:04] <NovaBurn> the beast

[12:04] <Starblade> no

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[12:04] <Starblade> hi sword monkey

[12:04] <NovaBurn> bentusi

[12:04] <Starblade> hi xypher

[12:05] <Starblade> no nova

[12:05] <Starblade> read the freaking clue squid left

[12:05] <Starblade> then think hard

[12:05] <SwordMonkey> Hey there

[12:05] <Xypher|lunch> hi star

[12:05] <Starblade> even if i'd never played HW

[12:05] <Starblade> squid's last clue would solve it for me

[12:05] <SwordMonkey> whats going on then?

[12:05] <Riess> heh, I don't get your last h... oh wait

[12:05] <Starblade> http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?p=1486882

[12:05] <Riess> hahahahahah!

[12:05] <Starblade> =)

[12:05] <bluevorlon> Do you know the answer Star?

[12:05] <NovaBurn> kadash

[12:06] <Starblade> i made the riddle with riess and squid

[12:06] <Starblade> no nova

[12:06] <bluevorlon> Is it the guidestone?

[12:06] <Riess> nope

[12:06] <Starblade> ok

[12:06] <bluevorlon> bah

[12:06] <Starblade> i'm going to quote squid's hint

[12:06] <bluevorlon> I was thinking Natalie Portman = panther

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[12:06] <NovaBurn> is it panther

[12:06] <Starblade> hi delphy

[12:06] <Starblade> no, not panther

[12:06] <NovaBurn> damn

[12:07] <Starblade> though, you're right about portman=panth

[12:07] <Riess> yeah

[12:07] <Starblade> I don't need a push

[12:07] <Starblade> I'm fine -- this isn't a jumping puzzle.

[12:07] <NovaBurn> the vaygr?

[12:07] <Riess> (I'm still not sure what he has to do with everything)

[12:07] <Starblade> that's squid's hint

[12:07] <NovaBurn> i mean it cant be that easy

[12:07] <Starblade> not vaygr

[12:07] <Riess> (you're probably better off ignoring those two lines)

[12:07] <bluevorlon> I keep thinking like, mouse, mouse button, cursor

[12:07] <bluevorlon> something triksee like that

[12:07] <Starblade> no, it's ingame

[12:08] <Starblade> i'll give you that

[12:08] <bluevorlon> bah

[12:08] <bluevorlon> well if it's HW2 I won't get it

[12:08] <NovaBurn> cloak generator

[12:08] <bluevorlon> because I never finished the damn thing

[12:08] <Starblade> squid is pounding his head on his desk now

[12:08] <NovaBurn> JUNKYARD DOG

[12:08] <Starblade> still no

[12:08] <NovaBurn> SAJUUK

[12:08] <bluevorlon> I just thought that

[12:08] <Starblade> for the love of all that is good and holy

[12:09] <bluevorlon> As I said

[12:09] <Starblade> what does sajuuk have to do with jumping puzzles

[12:09] <bluevorlon> I SUCK AT RIDDLES

[12:09] <NovaBurn> BRIGN SAJUUK TO BEAR

[12:09] <bluevorlon> Something with no legs

[12:09] <Starblade> /weep

[12:09] <bluevorlon> pwned

[12:09] <Riess> well, most things in HW have no legs

[12:09] <Riess> okay, so IT'S NOT KARAN

[12:09] <bluevorlon> This is why I'm stuck

[12:09] <Riess> etc

[12:10] <NovaBurn> where the fuck dooes alternate reality hint help

[12:10] <Starblade> I exist, but I only have power in an alternate reality.

[12:10] <Starblade> once you figure it out

[12:10] <NovaBurn> QUANTUM WAVEFORM EVENT

[12:10] <Starblade> you'll wonder how you missed it

[12:10] <Starblade> still no nova

[12:10] <NovaBurn> FRAK

[12:10] <Starblade> i'm lol'ing in rl

[12:11] <NovaBurn> this is probably some obscure as fuck reference

[12:11] <Starblade> it's really not

[12:11] <NovaBurn> dustware mega carrier

[12:11] <Starblade> no

[12:12] <NovaBurn> scaffold

[12:12] <Starblade> i'm going to copy and paste this conversation to the thread

[12:12] <Starblade> no nova

[12:12] <Riess> close, but no

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[12:12] <NovaBurn> OMG

[12:12] <Riess> 'close' is relative, though

[12:12] <NovaBurn> TANIS DERELICT

[12:12] <Riess> I knew you'd say that

[12:12] <Starblade> roflmao no

[12:12] <Riess> no

[12:12] <NovaBurn> damnit

[12:12] <Starblade> wrong direction close

[12:13] <Riess> hahaha

[12:13] <Starblade> ok

[12:13] <NovaBurn> great harbour ship of bentus

[12:13] <Starblade> one last hint

[12:13] <Riess> actually, close is a good hint in itself

[12:13] <NovaBurn> no

[12:13] <Starblade> then i give up on it

[12:13] <NovaBurn> fuck your hints

[12:13] <Starblade> "I'm right behind you"

[12:13] <NovaBurn> what the fuck

[12:14] <Starblade> think scaffold now

[12:14] <Starblade> it was close

[12:14] <bluevorlon> Hiigara

[12:14] <NovaBurn> KHARAK

[12:14] <Starblade> now think "I'm right behind you"

[12:14] <bluevorlon> Kharak

[12:14] <Starblade> no

[12:14] <bluevorlon> that's the one

[12:14] <bluevorlon> Motherfucker

[12:14] <Riess> kharak is a bit to the right

[12:14] <Starblade> closer than kharak

[12:14] <NovaBurn> WHAT

[12:14] <NovaBurn> bullshit

[12:14] <Riess> hiigara right in front of you

[12:14] <bluevorlon> Cryo Trays

[12:14] <NovaBurn> CRYOTRAYS

[12:14] <NovaBurn> FUCKER

[12:14] <Starblade> no

[12:14] <Starblade> that is LEFT

[12:14] <Starblade> BEHIND

[12:14] <Riess> cryos are off to the left

[12:14] <bluevorlon> Fuck off

[12:14] <Starblade> roflmao

[12:14] <bluevorlon> THERE'S NOTHING BEHIND

[12:14] <bluevorlon> Right

[12:14] <Riess> YES THERE IS

[12:14] <bluevorlon> Someone load up HW1

[12:14] <bluevorlon> SORT THIS OUT

[12:14] <NovaBurn> RESOURCE UNITS BEHIND SCALLOLD IN MISSION ONE

[12:14] <Riess> lol

[12:15] <bluevorlon> TARGET DRONES

[12:15] <Riess> mmm, almost

[12:15] <NovaBurn> DUST CLOUNDS AND SHIT

[12:15] <Starblade> YOU'RE SO FUCKING CLOSE

[12:15] <NovaBurn> NO

[12:15] <bluevorlon> Resources

[12:15] <Starblade> no

[12:15] <Riess> lol

[12:15] <bluevorlon> Research Ship

[12:15] <NovaBurn> WHERE IS SARAH CONNAH

[12:15] <Delphy> Wtf

[12:15] * NovaBurn stabs bluevorlon in the face

[12:15] <Starblade> BEHIND

[12:15] <Riess> there's about one thing left in that level

[12:15] <Delphy> Why are you dolts arguing

[12:15] <Starblade> BEHIIIIIND

[12:15] <NovaBurn> STFU

[12:15] <Riess> that you didn't mention

[12:15] <bluevorlon> BEHIND YOUR ARSE

[12:15] <Starblade> THERE ARE 5 OF THEM

[12:15] <NovaBurn> SCOUTS

[12:15] <Starblade> YOU START WITH SEVEN SCOUTS

[12:15] <NovaBurn> SALVAGE CORVETEES

[12:15] <bluevorlon> Pwned

[12:15] <Starblade> 1 OF THOE

[12:15] <Starblade> THOSE*

[12:16] <NovaBurn> YOU SIR ARE ASSHOLES

[12:16] <Starblade> that's it

[12:16] <Starblade> CRATES

[12:16] <Starblade> IT IS THE FUCKING CRATE

[12:16] <bluevorlon> CRATES?

[12:16] <NovaBurn> ASSHOLES

[12:16] <NovaBurn> I SAID THAT

[12:16] <bluevorlon> What fucking crates?

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[12:16] <NovaBurn> [11:15] <&NovaBurn> RESOURCE UNITS BEHIND SCALLOLD IN MISSION ONE

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[12:16] <Starblade> I THOUGHT YOU MEANT LIKE ROCKS

[12:16] <Starblade> YOU WIN NOVA

[12:16] <Starblade> A WINNER IS YOU

[12:16] <bluevorlon> What the fuck does NATALIE PORTMAN have to do with a Motherfucking CRATE

[12:16] <NovaBurn> NO YOU ELITIST RIDDLE FUCKER

[12:17] <NovaBurn> NO SHIT

[12:17] <Starblade> i thought of the answer

[12:17] <Riess> blu, ask squid

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[12:17] <Starblade> squid is the asshole who thought the riddle up

[12:17] <NovaBurn> your riddle sucks ass

[12:17] <NovaBurn> and so does squid

[12:17] <Riess> he's responsible for that line

[12:17] <bluevorlon> Therefore, you suck ass

[12:17] <Starblade> portman is a he = panth

[12:17] <Starblade> panth found that the T-Mat corvette used the crate geometry

[12:17] <bluevorlon> OH FFS

[12:17] <bluevorlon> how obscure is that

[12:17] <NovaBurn> not obscure my ass

[12:17] <Starblade> MY COUSIN FIGHTS BUT I DON"T BITE = THE GODDAMN T MAT (i didn't know that)

[12:18] <bluevorlon> I did guess portman = panth though

[12:18] <Starblade> I don't need a push

[12:18] <Starblade> I'm fine -- this isn't a jumping puzzle.

[12:18] <bluevorlon> Hurrah for me

[12:18] <Riess> about |-------------------------------------------------------------------------this----------------------------------------------------------------------------| obscure, I'll admit that

[12:18] <Starblade> have you never ever played a goddamn fps?

[12:18] <Starblade> like fucking Half Life?

[12:18] <NovaBurn> HOW DOES TMAT -> CRATE GEOMETRY -> CRATES IN MISSION ONE

[12:18] <NovaBurn> = ANSWER

[12:18] <Starblade> MY COUSIN FIGHTS = t mat crate

[12:18] <Starblade> i don't bite = CRATES DON'T FUCKING ATTACK YOU

[12:19] <Riess> actually, the crates in MP were the answer

[12:19] <Riess> not the ones in M1

[12:19] <Starblade> the alternate reality bit = crates only give you shit in multi

[12:19] <Riess> but ffs, it was hard enough

[12:19] <bluevorlon> SEE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW

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[12:19] <bluevorlon> I may have to post this chatlog

[12:19] <Starblade> yeah, i'm going to

[12:19] <bluevorlon> Behold! THE COLLECTIVE BRAINPOWER OF IRC

[12:19] <Starblade> put it in the IRC thread too

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[12:20] <SwordMonkey> odd

[12:20] <Starblade> congrats nova

[12:20] <Starblade> through the use of 1000 extra hints

[12:20] <Starblade> you win

[12:20] <Riess> yeah, now THE COLLECTIVE BRAINPOWER OF IRC gets to make the next riddle :d

[12:20] <NovaBurn> DSFARGEG

[12:20] <Starblade> go post the next riddle

[12:20] <SwordMonkey> wah who said what?

[bluevorlon]

Plz to note the degradation from careful considered thought and problem solving, to be replaced gratituitous swearing and lots hopeful shouting.

[Starblade]

This is why I love IRC so. We await Nova's riddle. Sort of.

EDIT: If you can't find it, the answer is 'Crate'. The reasons for why are given in the IRC log.

[NovaBurn]

You burn in hell along with squid and reiss

[EarthBorn]

Must...put...in...code tags.

Oh, and a great job Nova.

[Starblade]

Oops, thanks Riess.

Nope, thank EarthBorn!
-Riess

EDIT: You're right, thanks EarthBorn!

[Progenitor]

oh FFS man, excellent riddle, but the hints were hell...:p

[Starblade]

Hahaha, I seriously thought "jumping puzzle" would give it all away.

[Progenitor]

HW-based mindsets don't recognise "jumping puzzle" inputs. :D

anyhow, congrats nova.

[NovaBurn]

To paths far and near
Mobile, yet unmoveable
Created and destroyed
I eat ships

[Starblade]

OMG I need a hint!!!111oneoneone :p

[SquidDNA]

Quantum wavefront.

FINE NOVA, THE FUCKING HYPERSPACE WINDOW.
WAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWHA

[NovaBurn]

Squidbert wins

To paths far and near : hyperspace window/wavefront event that allows FTL to both far off and short distances
Mobile, yet unmoveable : self standing hyperspace windows from HW1, also the windows move through the ship
Created and destroyed : created to initiate hyperspace, destroyed after jump is finished
I eat ships : lookslike they eat the ships

[Starblade]

I was owned by Nova.

[bluevorlon]

we await squid's next devilish riddle...

[SquidDNA]

So far away you’ll never arrive
But look away, come back, and you’re there

"Home" was suggested but that's not quite right. Partial credit accepted if you show your work.

[EarthBorn]

So far away you’ll never arrive
But look away, come back, and you’re there

The journey to Hiigara. It was very far away but the hyperdrive led them away from Kharak, and back to it's burning, and again out to Hiigara.

[SquidDNA]

Edited:
It looks so far away you’ll never arrive
But look away for a moment and you’re there

[Hablacraja]

nlips

[NovaBurn]

hyperspace transit

the distance in normal space is too far with convential travel, the jump into hyperspace is incredibly fast so one could say that looking away for a moment and the journey is near instantaneous.

[EarthBorn]

The process of phasing by the keepers.

[SquidDNA]

Hyperspace is involved.

[Archangel of Death]

The Comm station in mission 4 of HW2.
It looks so far away you’ll never arrive Its a sickeningly large distance away.
But look away for a moment and you’re there But after you kill the last inhibiter its a quick jump in.

[Inert]

May I just point out how the riddle was solved by "randomly guessing without thinking for the answer"? On IRC, with no supplied logic, and on top of that, with the encouragement of the original creators who seemed to have wanted Nova to succeed?

No offense, and it's not personal, but I think that is just unfair.

[Starblade]

Seeing as no one has ever played a game involving jumping puzzles, or a game of multiplayer with default settings, I figured that no one would get it anyhow, and it wouldn't hurt to just have random guessing used to solve the riddle. I would have just given the answer anyhow, to keep the thread going.

[EarthBorn]

May I just point out how the riddle was solved by "randomly guessing without thinking for the answer"? On IRC, with no supplied logic, and on top of that, with the encouragement of the original creators who seemed to have wanted Nova to succeed?

No offense, and it's not personal, but I think that is just unfair.

Actually, you have a point there. Chip's rules also say:



[2] Make only one guess at a time. This prevents people from randomly guessing without thinking for the answer. It is also recommended that you include some basis from which you dervied your answer, some riddlers may require this in order to confirm/deny your answer.

But in this case, I think it's alright, since the riddle was too odd. :|

[SquidDNA]

THAT WAS A BRILLIANT RIDDLE. IT CALLED FOR ONE WORTHY TO ANSWER IT, AND ALL IT FOUND WAS NOVABURN'S LAMENESS. WHAT SHAME AND DISAPPOINTMENT IT FEELS TO BE SURROUNDED BY YOU.
>:( >:( >:( >:(

[Fiirks]

I thought we were going to vault this one too.

[Archangel of Death]

A vaulted thread is a locked thread, for that is the nature of "The Vault" (tm).

Seems no one else is even trying, but I have one more guess I need to try.
It looks so far away you’ll never arrive The real world when your playing Homeworld.
But look away for a moment and you’re there But if you look away for just a moment, you are thrust right back into it. :yas:

[SquidDNA]

There have been some close guesses but not close enough.

A beautiful scene.
What's that in the distance?
No time-- ENEMIES!

[Moe]

The gardens of Kadesh.

[EarthBorn]

Kadeshi Hyperspace Inhibitors!

As Squid said: The Answer relates to Hyperspace.
The clue points (in all probability) to the Gardens of Kadesh.

In HW, the Kadeshi trap the Kushan fleet with their Hyperspace inhibitor.

[Unk]

The galactic core.

[Starblade]

The Second Hyperspace Core? :p

Don't forget to actually give reasons behind the answers.

[Void]

first hw2 mission

[PULSTAR]

The background paintings in each mission?

EDIT: Reasoning:
A beautiful scene.
The matte backgrounds certainly fall under the category of "beautiful", if not "stunning."

What's that in the distance?
They're always way off in the distance.

No time-- ENEMIES!
You hardly ever have time to appreciate them before you're beset by enemies and mission objectives.

[Sword_Monkey]

A person within a crate within a crate within a hyperspace tunnel, going home.

Damn doesn't fit the clue....

[Fiirks]

The last mission's background.
A beautiful scene. Obviously Hiigara is beautiful.
What's that in the distance? Possibly a reference to the angel moon or the emperor's mothership which was described as being in the distance.
No time-- ENEMIES! The enemy comes at your mothership fast and hard in the last mission. In fact, they come early too.

[aussieman]

I say the Hyperspace inhibitors guarding Hiigara.

A beautiful scene. - Refering to the Galactic core Region or the Hiigarans Home system.
What's that in the distance? - Refering to the Hyperspace inhibitors or possibly Hiigara.
No time-- ENEMIES! - refering to the massive sphere of ion cannon frigs guarding it.

[SquidDNA]

FourStarGeneral gets it!

People guessing "Hiigara" and "The Galactic Core" were close, but didn't specify what I was actually referring to. You get closer to the galactic core with each hyperspace jump, so you begin to see it in the distance, but really this could be true of any feature. Don't remember if this applies to the Gardens of Kadesh.

The hint was saying that there's no time to really appreciate the environment you're in because you're trying to survive.

[EarthBorn]

Go FourStar, your riddle...and good work. :)

EDIT:

Oh, and Squid: We can see a faint outline of the Kadeshi Nebula from mission one.
It starts to get clearer from the great wastelands.

[PULSTAR]

OK, here goes (but this is my first attempt at riddle-writing, so I dunno how good it'll be):

I am always with you, yet I am always alone.
A voice in the darkness.
Ask, and I shall provide.

Have at it!

[SquidDNA]

Fleet Command.
I am always with you, yet I am always alone. Fleet command is one of the two voices you hear in game on a regular basis.
A voice in the darkness. Disembodied voice at that.
Ask, and I shall provide. Fleet command does what you say.

[PULSTAR]

That's what I get for trying to come up with a riddle after a week of exams. Good work, Squid!

[MetalDragoon83]

But Squid didn't give any reasoning....

really just trying to get out of one of Squid's riddles, o well time for another brain buster.

[Inert]

I think if it's obvious, then no explanation needed. (no offense, I don't mean your riddle was obvious General)

[SquidDNA]

Time for these to get hard.

Cnidocyst in flight
Banking, watchful, furious
Swatting the insects

[Gazbeans]

err....Drone Frigate?

[trebmal_ca]

swarmers

[TheDeadlyShoe]

Missiles.

[GRODON]

swatting the insects-the keepers easy one

[SquidDNA]

No hits yet.

[GRODON]

Okay I got it the movers

[Atreides]

Hive Frigate

[Starblade]

God forbid we give a reason.

[SquidDNA]

Even if you're right you need to explain why. At this rate you'll just hit it by chance, and that's not playing.

[Atreides]

Hive Frigates twist and turn if not actually attacking something, upgraded their armour is pretty good and can with the help of the swarmer drones take out fighters quickly.

[SquidDNA]

Everything you have said is true, but it is the incorrect answer. Something you have not said is false.

[GRODON]

:steam:WOW this is a hard one good job squid, you have jest made my head blow up.

[Moe]

I'm going to guess multibeam frigs, because they swat fighters out of the sky like there's no tomorrow and they also perform leet banking maneuvers.

[Starblade]

Dammit Moe, I was going to guess the Kadeshi Needleship/Hyperspace Inhibitor.

[SquidDNA]

I would like to point out that Multibeam Frigates also have a coiled Ion accelerator, not unlike the packing of the barb inside the cnidocyst.
http://biology.dbs.umt.edu/biol103/labs/Christian/4b_inverts_and_hydra_files/image014.jpg
Moe wins.

[GRODON]

Okay that's just harsh

[Moe]

Ah crap so now I have to come up with a new one?

Particles in flight
suspended in midair
a conflict looms
but is never born

Edit: think the color sucks? Yeah, me too. Blame arch.

[Archangel of Death]

Dustwars.
Particles in flight Dust
suspended in midair Uh... dust?
a conflict looms Dustwars!
but is never born Stupid Sierra! :madashel:

[Moe]

Ah crap. I knew I made it too easy. I originally wanted to put "prevented by nevadan mountains" but that would have been even easier.

[Archangel of Death]

Woo! Ok, here goes. Thank an only partial conscious mental state for this one. Sorry it took so long.

A failure, my older brother was.
Though powerful he lacked control,
And thus by his cousins was outshone.
And now I am born with one goal:
To prove my kind a worthy foe.

[Master Chief]

Imma give it a try: a Scout!

A failure, my brother was- Nobody used the Interceptor

Though powerful, he lacked control- Interceptors aren't as fast or agile as Scouts

And thus by his cousins was outshone- Other strike craft were used more

And now I am born with one goal: To prove my kind a worthy foe- Scouts show fighters are good because everyone uses them

[JAL-18]

The Kushan?

Older brother - the Kadesh
Powerful, lacked control - Kadesh Multi-Beam Frigates. Powerful as all hell, couldn't aim for shit
Cousins - Kadesh again
Prove worthy foe - After the destruction of Kharak they wanted to show you couldn't just walk all over them.

[Archangel of Death]

Clever! But wrong!
Master Chief probably shouldn't have forgotten the "older brother" part, scouts came before inties. In some sense, he is vaguely near the right track though.

Jal's seems a bit of a stretch.

[Supernova]

Blade Interceptor Mk 5:

A failure, my older brother was.
Though powerful he lacked control,
And thus by his cousins was outshone.

-- The Mk1 - Mk4 Blades were extremely volatile, while incredibly fast they tended to blow up...Thus they were failures.

And now I am born with one goal:
To prove my kind a worthy foe.

-- The Mk5 was rebuilt in one shift by a single engineer and a single test pilot as a last ditch effort to save the Blade Project.

[Archangel of Death]

Ah, and be the same as one that has already gone before? Nope. Though you also are somewhat vaguely close, partly in the same sense as Master, and partly in a whole different sense.

[atmawpn]

Kushan Drone Frigate?

I don't know if it's right, but the "lacked control" immediately pointed me towards the multigun corvette. It was mentioned that an inexperienced pilot could overload all the gyros and send the ship spinning uncontrollably. The other ship with a similar anti-fighter ability would be thus the drone frig, which doesn't have this problem, and is also a rather powerful ship.

Bleah, but no harm trying I guess. :P

[Archangel of Death]

Closest so far! But also wrong. Close partly in the same sense that Master Chef was, and also in an entirelly new sense! However, since people seem to be getting closer, in a sense, I shall refrain from dropping hints (exluding the non-sensical way I have been) or rewording! Random, but somewhat appropriate smiley! :rofl:

I feel devilish. :devil:

[Unk]

Kadeshi multibeam frigate?

A failure, my older brother was. - Not sure about that one. Some reference to the Kushan-Kadesh relationship?

Though powerful he lacked control, - 4 beams o' death, but not very accurate.

And thus by his cousins was outshone - Kushan frigates could outmaneuver and destroy it. Also literal cousins in the relationship between the Kushan and Kadeshi.

It was a toss up between that and the 'Taaw MBF, pretty certain it's a frigate of some kind.

[SquidDNA]

The riddle is about the frigate design. An assault frigate lacks the precision to do anything but wail on slow capships, but I doubt this can be construed as failure. I really want to say the answer is The Heavy Cruiser because it bears Ion Cannon turrets and this riddle is about the progression of the Ion Cannon, but only three main-line ships featured it as a weapon: the ICF, the Destroyer, and the HVC. The ICF certainly lacked control while being powerful. The Destroyer was better in this regard, but again that's hardly "cousins." Unless the Destroyer has two so that's two cousins.
Okay yeah. It's the Ion Cannon mount.

[Archangel of Death]

Wrong and wrong! Hmm...

[Chrome]

Somtaaw Hive Frigate.

Its older brother, the Kushan Drone Frig, was pretty much useless for most players in HW. The Assault and Ion frigs were much better to attack enemies with, hence the part about "cousins" outshining it. But later, the Somtaaw built on the misproven technology using microship tech, nd now Hivers are among some of the best things to hit an enemy ship with in Cata. >:D It's either MBF swarm or Hiver swarm.

[Archangel of Death]

Omg! Chrome hit it exactly!

[Chrome]

That's what I get for Chrys and Zeph saying for me to either spam MBFs or Hivers in Cata. *eyeroll*

Okay, my riddle.

Silent wayfarer
was born first
but my sister has the fame
my little brother was taken
but I survived with my sister.

[One step away]

We gather trees in the forest to find the path,
stars in space to find our route
We close our eyes so we can see
By no means are we a means to whatever end

[Unk]

The Faal-Corum?

Silent wayfarer
was born first - It first Explorer class ship built.

but my sister has the fame - Kuun Lan is the famous one.

my little brother was taken - Clee-San got beasted.

but I survived with my sister. - But Kuun-Lan and Faal-Corum survived.

EDIT - I'm assuming Chrome has the valid riddle.

[Chrome]

Nuts, that was too easy. :/ Shortest lived riddle ever. He solved it in #homeworld, but I suggest he post in the thread.

Anyways, yes Unk got it, his turn for the riddle. :D

[Unk]

Made obsolete by the storm
Until then you know
You can't touch this


Enjoy.

[SquidDNA]

The answer is MC Hammer.

[Unk]

No.

[Master Chief]

Is it the ship buried in the sand on Kharak at the beginning of the first cutscene?

It was made obsolete by the dust storms that revealed it and allowed the Kushan to learn from it and build better stuff, but until the storms revealed it the Kushan couldn't reach it.

[Unk]

Nice try but no.

[MetalDragoon83]

I want to say your Sensors in Kadesh

Made obsolete by the storm- Sensors could not work inside the neabula very well.
Until then you know- You know you have to go through it?
You can't touch this- No touchy the neabula, cause the Kadeshi try and kick you butt.

Probly wrong but meh.

[Unk]

Yup, wrong.

[SquidDNA]

Heavy Corvette. They were called hammers or something weren't they?
They dominated but when you get to the Research Station strike craft are useless.

[Unk]

Got it. The Kushan Hammer Heavy Corvette.

Made obsolete by the storm - They were replaced by the Tempest Multi gun corvette, and as any good thesaurus will tell you a Tempest is a violent storm.

Until then you know
You can't touch this - The most heavily armoured and (arguably) effective strikecraft until MCG's were available.

And the MC Hammer reference as well.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/ukn0wned/hammer.jpg

[Fiirks]

Wow. How the heck did you figure that out squid!?!

[MetalDragoon83]

He probly put it togeather after he made his MC Hammer reference. Good on there Unk.

[Starblade]

:lol:

Stop...HAMMERTIME!

[Riess]

That riddle was brilliant.

[EarthBorn]

I agree completely. Let's see whether Squid's next one is as good. :)

[SquidDNA]

Siblings stretch their arms
Touching fingertips
Red Rover Red Rover, We call--
Oh shiii--! A cruise missile!

[deathwings]

My first post in this thread, so here goes.

A marine frigate

Siblings stretch their arms > the frigate releasing the marines

Touching fingertips > the actual contact with the target vessel
Red Rover Red Rover, We call-- > A childrens game where the children form a line and cross over
Oh shiii--! A cruise missile! > Marine frigates are very vulnerable

[EarthBorn]

A Homeworld 2 Resource Collector.


Siblings stretch their arms: The collectors have arms by which they collect/repair.
Touching fingertips : Same as above.
Red Rover Red Rover, We call: They go over to the MS to drop their stuff.
Oh shiii--! A cruise missile!: They're weak.

However, we find cruise missiles only in Cata, so I may be wrong.

[SquidDNA]

No and no.

[Unk]

The Taiidan Refugee convoy from Cata.

Siblings stretch their arms
Touching fingertips - The mechanics of the childhood game "Red Rover". It involves a line of kids running and a team of kids trying to intercept them. If they do they join the other team. A reference of the beast trying to turn the convoy.

Red Rover Red Rover, We call--
Oh shiii--! A cruise missile! - Cruise missiles where what was trying to turn them.

I know I had the last one, so if I am right I'll let Squid nominate someone to go next.

[SquidDNA]

Well, you know what red rover (sort of) but no.

In red rover there's a line of kids that calls someone over from a mob. One person runs at the line and tries to break it. If they fail, they join the line. If they break it I think one of the people at the break joins the other team? I don't know. Anyway the joining part is irrelavent.

[NovaBurn]

planet killers

[EarthBorn]

Explanation?

[atmawpn]

The Somtaaw Sentinel microship.

When the forcefield is generated, they "stretch arms" and "touch fingertips" via the forcefield.

They are siblings since only sentinels can link with sentinels.

Forcefields don't stop cruise missiles, hence the panic.

[SquidDNA]

atmawpn wins

Well done.

[atmawpn]

Crystals
Espionage
Commandeering
Time
All in one package

[Fiirks]

HW:Cataclysm.

CrystalsOnly game that these are in.
EspionageNot quite sure how this one fits...
CommandeeringYou can commandeer ships rather than salvage them
TimeOnly HW game where you can manipulate the speed of time
All in one package All of these are in the one package, HW:C

[Aesaar]

Damn, beaten to it. By a few hours, it seems.

Espionnage fits in with mimics, I think.

[Beast]

the Espionage is when the Kuun-lan and rep-taii commandos raid and destroy the imp-taii research center on a planet, to prevent the imp-taii from controling the Beast.

[atmawpn]

Beast main self is the closest so far though. Keep going...

[SquidDNA]

Well Harvesters were used as the infiltrators in that mission, and harvesters also grab crystals (workers, but whatever-- and they also do the COMMANDEERING bit) and I have no idea how time fits in. I guess it's either Harvester or Worker. But I don't know what time has to do with it. Maybe they buy you time if you sacrifice them?

[Beast]

I agree with squid.

Workers.

Crystals: Workers can harvest crystals.

Espionage: as that mission shows, they can be used to bypass enemy defences.

Commandeering: they can capture enemy ships

Time: they by you time when they repair your command ship.

All in one package: all those abilities in one ship....the Worker.

[atmawpn]

You're drifting farther away now. :(

Point of information: Taiidan resourcers were used for that mission, not Workers, so the Worker suggestion is incorrect.

[aussieman]

Does is happen to be the Kuun-Laan its self?

Crystals - Can process crystals after youo have reserched it.

Espionage - Can build ships to be used in espionage.

Commandeering - Can commandeer ships.

Time - Ummm i guess it was built for it to harvest in 9 month shifts i think.

All in one package - It was built to be mulit purpose.

[EarthBorn]

It can also be the Faal-Courm for the exact same reasons...

[aussieman]

Well yeah i guess, but i put the Kuun-Laan because the manual said that kiith Somtaaw implemented lessons learnt on the Faal-Courm's design to create the Kuun-Laan with improvements on its design.

[atmawpn]

It's getting colder around here... :(

[Archangel of Death]

Mission 8: Deep Space
Crystals- This is the first mission where you encounter crystals.
Espionage- Your meeting up with a Taiidani Republic spy.
Commandeering- You have to capture some collectors, and if your like me, you absolutely must capture everything that a worker can stick to.
Time- You only have 15 minutes. Only? Pah.
All in one package- Is it getting warmer yet?

[atmawpn]

Hot! Plasma Hot!

Archangel wins!

[aussieman]

Hey Archangel your up for a riddle,unless he is out of time.

[EarthBorn]

He's out of time.
Someone else, atma?

[atmawpn]

Beast main self, since his was the closest next to Archangel's.

[Archangel of Death]

Heh, I didn't get my middle of the night epiphany like last time... Oh well. The answer was going to be "the second hyperspace core" too.

[Beast]

hmmmm....

Unknown, most mysterious.
Frightening, fast.
He seeks us all.
Hes not like the rest.

[Aesaar]

Sajuuk.

Unknown, most mysterious. the Hiigarans don't know much about him
Frightening, fast. With the 3 cores, he's the fastest ship in the galaxy
He seeks us all. He planted hints and keys so someone would find him
Hes not like the rest. Sajuuk wasn't as prone to war as the rest of his people (according to the Dustwars script)

[Beast]

nope.

[MetalDragoon83]

The Beast.

Unknown, most mysterious.- It is the most mysterious creature ever encountered.
Frightening, fast.- It created a fleet in no time with its Infection beam, and the Naggarok is freakin FAST!!
He seeks us all.- He wants to convert us all into him.
Hes not like the rest.- He aint like the other species in the HW universe.

[Beast]

no but your close..

[Aesaar]

The naggarok?

Unknown, most mysterious. No one knows about it until it's found by the Somtaaw and the Taiidani
Frightening, fast. It's really fast in the last mission of Cata
He seeks us all. It wants to "eat" your ships
Hes not like the rest. No other ship like it.

[Beast]

Ghostwind wins!

[Aesaar]

Hurray! Here it is:

Forgotten and unknown,
Yet I hold the greatest treasure of all.

[Chip_Ayten]

Khar toba?
obvious reasons

[MetalDragoon83]

Eye of Aaron

Forgotten and unknown,- Everybody forgot about it, and was unkown until the end of HW2.
Yet I hold the greatest treasure of all.- It has the ability to hyperspace to anywhere in the galaxy.

[Riess]

How very predictable of you, Beast.

[aussieman]

Tossing up between two here.

I say The Karos Graveyard because no one really knows about it all and it holds the remains of the Progenetor Foundry Ship and the Progenetor Dreadnaught.

[Aesaar]

No one has it yet.

[SquidDNA]

That wreck the Kuun Lan salvages the seige cannon from?

No explanation to its origin, nobody else seemed to know about it, biggest gun in the game.

[Starblade]

Balcora Gate?

Forgotten and unknown, - It was forgotten about until the events of Homeworld 2.
Yet I hold the greatest treasure of all. - It holds Sajuuk inside.

[Void]

Beast beacon pod? :)


Forgotten and unknown - it was launched 1 mil years ago.
Yet I hold the greatest treasure of all - the 'treasure' is the beast. Greatest Enemy.

[Aesaar]

Starblade got it!

We await your riddle.

[Starblade]

Rock. Rock...ROCK!
Whew, that was close. Look where you're flying damn it, this Frigate can't turn on a dime. Oh, for God's sakes now what? Is that a bigger- *BOOM*

I think it's rather easy, but it was fun to think up. :D

[MetalDragoon83]

Mission 6: Diamond Shoals from HW1

Rock. Rock...ROCK!- It's an Asteriod Field.
Whew, that was close. Look where you're flying damn it, this Frigate can't turn on a dime. Oh, for God's sakes now what? Is that a bigger- *BOOM*- Anything Frigate or bigger gets pounded, due ti the amount of rocks.

[Starblade]

No, it's not Diamond Shoals.

[Derivative]

'Rock Lobster' popped into my head, but I don't think thats the answer.

Then I thought of the headshot asteriod, but I don't think thats it either.

[jonl90]

Take a wild guess on this one: 2nd Mission of Cata? Finding the Bushan-Re?

The Kuun-laan(sp?) landed in the middle of an asteriod stream that starts a little after the mission starts. By gaming experience, I figure you had a couple of Ramming frigates or something? I don't remember what all existed in that mission, ship-wise.

I really think it's not it...It doesn't fit...but it's just a wild guess.

[SquidDNA]

There goes a Narwhal..

Chapel Perilous. The hugeass rock is being thrown at your momship and you have to make it splodey.

[Starblade]

Squid got it. In Chapel Perilous, there were varying asteroids floating around as well, I was playing off a Frigate getting hit by one, then hit by the Headshot Asteroid.

[Fiirks]

Lets see what evil squid cooks up for us this time...

[Derivative]

funny, I said headshot asteroid before squid's post, or were you looking for the name of the mission?

[Starblade]

You said that you didn't think it was Rock Lobster or the Headshot Asteroid. As such, I sort of disregarded it, thinking that you weren't actually giving an answer.

Either way, I was looking for the name of the mission.

[Chip_Ayten]

wow squids pwning at this... good job :jig:

[SquidDNA]

Why is it called the Headshot Asteroid?

I'll come up with a riddle tomorrow.

[MetalDragoon83]

Probly because it kills anything in one shot, like a headshot does in most games and, of course, in real life.

[Fiirks]

Sadly, it won't kill your mothershp in one shot! You don't actually have to kill it, all you have to do is shoot it up a little and it looses enough to not nuke your ms.

I know a guy who claims to have gotten it in a crate once.

[Starblade]

Squid, it's referred to in the .big file as Headshot Asteroid. I forget what it's called ingame.

EDIT: It's the Rockship ingame. On an interesting note, if you're Kushan, the Rockship uses Taiidan engines, and vice versa if you're playing as the Taiidan.

[SquidDNA]

Change brings the illusion of movement.
More detail, but further away,
Photorealism would make me a dot.

[Derivative]

Do you speak of N-LIPS? because if you remove it, small ships look like dots far away.

[SquidDNA]

You're kind of close, but not on the right track.

[Archangel of Death]

Levels of Detail? Seems kinda backwards from the clues though...

[sajuukar]

Interceptors, maybe? Changes in the position of the ships around the interceptor are the only thing that makes you realize that it's moving... and they ought to be little dots considering the mothership is a couple km long...???

[trebmal_ca]

defenders?

[Unk]

Alls I can think of is the galactic core backdrops against most of the HW missions.

[Master Chief]

Scale? If you change scale, it could create the illusion of movement, and typically the further away you are from something, the more detailed and less-grainy it is (in games and pictures). As for the dots, if scale were real the ships would be dots, I guess.

[SquidDNA]

This does have something to do with video settings but nothing to do with model scale. ;)

[Supernova]

NLIPS

The non linear scale thingy that hw used to keep units at a playable scale. The photorealism would make me a dot line is basically what sets it up for me.

[Supernova]

Er, video settings...??

Hmm, the Instant Sensor Manger Transition Option?


Change brings the illusion of movement. -- With it the instant SM option off in the video settings it looks like you're zooming WAY out. Without the tactical overlay you wouldn't see anything but dots...And you can see the whole battle so more detail.

But I can't figure out if its flat out the SM or if its the Instant SM Transition option because of the clues...You mention it has to do due with the video settings so I'm going to go with Instant SM Transition option...

[SquidDNA]

Video settings yes, zooming sort of, sensor manager no.

[Supernova]

Hmm, wait, video settings yes, zooming sort of

Is it the video resolution?

As the resolution increases everything seems further away but you get increased detail because of the increased (well apparentl atleast) dpi.

[Fiirks]

Is it LOD'ing?

[Chrome]

N-lips. I believe that handles more realistic scaling, ie, fighters become absurdly small, and command ships become really BIG?

[SquidDNA]

Already been guessed Chrome.

Supernova is almost there. Ships may change apparent size when you adjust resolution settings but you always move the camera to wherever you like anyway.

That time of the year again?
Where's my disc
Where's the patch
Crap, gotta set everything up again.

[MetalDragoon83]

Getting a new better Video Card

Change brings the illusion of movement. - Not really sure.
More detail, but further away,- Better graphics, can make things seem farther.
Photorealism would make me a dot.- Fighters and small craft would be dots.

That time of the year again?- Thw time you get a new card(or format your hard rive)
Where's my disc- The drivers and HW.
Where's the patch- Gotta get the lastest version.
Crap, gotta set everything up again.- Oh my the fun of playing solitare with real cards while you install everything.

[Master Chief]

It's the WON server maintenance guy setting up the servers after losing his disk and downloading the patch!

[SquidDNA]

I'm beginning to think this one is too hard.

I'll say that "that time of the year" is whenever a HW MP weekend is scheduled.

[Jianaran]

moving in cata? when you move, the stars elongate but they should remain dots in reality

[Starblade]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that it's the Re-installation of the game.

Change brings the illusion of movement. - The little 'progress bar' as you install the game?
More detail, but further away,- Hi real life.
Photorealism would make me a dot. - Put the CD in the game, it wouldn't show up as more than a pixel?

"Squid's entire hint"- Reinstalling the game to play at the HW meet. Which, by the way, we need to do again sometime soon.

[SquidDNA]

When you install, and then max the resolution (because everyone does this) the menu gets really really tiny.

So the answer is the menu.

Next person to post a riddle is the riddle master.

If you post yours after the next person, delete it or edit it to a guess.

[Fiirks]

When I get home from school I'll schedule one of those. I always miss them because of school. It sucks. I made it to one of them and WON was full of people, it was beautiful. I have a screenshot of the name list being scrollable!


We know ours
Three unknowns
For the first time, one matches ours

[sajuukar]

I'm thinking the Kadeshi hyperspace core thingy. They know of their own, but they don't know of the three super cores. For the first time, one matches theirs when the Kushan come by.

[Fiirks]

You're close, but thats not right.

[Chip_Ayten]

The bentusi hyperspace core? The bentusi knew of the core they had, and they knew 2 more existed they just didnt know where or who had them until the events of HW1

[Fiirks]

nope. You're off on the wrong tangent.

[Starblade]

Is it the Kadeshi Hyperspace Signature?

We know ours- The Kadesh know of their own.
Three unknowns- The Three Hyperspace Cores or Kushan, Turanic, and Bentusi/Taiidani signatures?
For the first time, one matches ours- The Kushan and Kadeshi signatures were similar.

By the way Fiirks, what's your avatar? I can't make it out.

[Chip_Ayten]

Star i think sajuukar made the same guess

[Fiirks]

Starblade wins. I'd point out that sajuukar spoke about the core while its specifcally the signature.

I suppose I should explain what my avatar is finally. Its part of a rowing shell, specifially its the stern where the rowing area begins and the stern ends. The flat part is the gunwhale. For a little more explaination about crew, like what a boathouse is, or what a Power 10! is, check this link out, it does a pretty good job of explaining it all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_rowing

[Starblade]

One surrounded by many, all focusing on one task: defend the one.

[Void]

Sentinels

[Starblade]

Nope. Don't forget to put explanations in too.

[Progenitor]

the mothership

all the fleet's ships are tasked with defending the mothership in every single mission.

[sajuukar]

Drone Frigate? All the little drones come out and form a hollow sphere to defend the frigate within.

[Beast]

Hiigara?

Hiigara is surrounded by the Hiigaran navy, whos task is to protect Hiigara.

[Busby]

Silly Sajuukar, the HW:C drone frigate's drones fly of on there own, so its the the HW1 drone frigate.

[sajuukar]

The ship in cataclysm is a hive frigate, I did actually mean the drone frigate.

[Unk]

The ghost ship, surrounded by "many" haxed vessels which defend it.

[SquidDNA]

Sphere formation guarding a super capital ship.

You know, because it's being surrounded? I think sometimes answers speak for themselves. :/

[Fiirks]

Bit of a leap, but is it all the ships in the research station mission?

[Chrome]

Sentinels guarding a ship. When it was said sentinels alone wasn't the answer, but the riddle itself said all was focused upon guarding the one, I thought maybe it needed a slightly more complex answer?

[Ishaar Niirfa]

The ion frigates at the Bridge of Sighs? There's a gazillon of them all protecting the Taiidan hyperspace inhibitor.

[Jianaran]

the ions in "bridge of sighs"?

[SquidDNA]

I have a feeling Ishaar got it. :)

[Starblade]

Sorry, no one got it so far. Squid's was closest, though.

[Riess]

The Battleball. Lots of strike craft escorting one other, constantly firing while swooping in and out at SC speeds.

[Deionarra]

I can't belive that none of those answers were right. I'll assume you are just being realy picky or something and repeat Squid's answer with a slight addition:

Defenders in sphere formation guarding a capital ship.

[Progenitor]

i'd say defense fighters in sphere formation guarding a ship.