View Full Version : will DoW2 have a better balance than DoW1 ?
20th Jul 08, 2:03 PM
I played much DoW1 and its first extension.
But i stopped cause i was tired of too much unbalances.
Some race where unable to win vs some other races, some mass strats were too powerful and were not fun in a strategic game (massing is not strategy)
Did you (relic) have the feeling that DoW1 was balance ?
What will you (relic) do/change to make DoW2 better balance ?
20th Jul 08, 2:13 PM
I guess we'll never know until the game comes out and we get to play it. It also may depend on how many races are relased. More races = more balance issues.
20th Jul 08, 2:21 PM
well depend of how much credits they put in balance too.
With 3 races DoW1 wasnt balance.
Do they want to make a balance game, or maybe they only want a fun game with nice effects ?
Does relic know that DoW1 had an bad balance, and if they know that, what will they change in the gameplay ?
20th Jul 08, 2:29 PM
DAwn of War :rolleyes:
20th Jul 08, 2:31 PM
I'm sure that Relic is aware that balance isn't their strongpoint. Hell, all they have to do is look at the DoW and CoH forum balance sections.
Personally, I'd prefer a fun game with lots of races and cool units over a balanced game any day. Seriously, games are meant to be fun, not something to get riled up and angry over. DC had atrocious balance, but hey it was still fun because of all of the races.
DAwn of War
I don't see the reasoning behind that, but whatever suits you I guess.
20th Jul 08, 2:32 PM
it depend on:
1- how it's designed, game mechanics in general, some can help the balance, other make it harder [we don't know much about it]
2- how mp/skirmish will work (since it's different from SP) [we don't know much about it]
3- quality of it's support [I'm guessing that it will be the same as CoH]
20th Jul 08, 2:43 PM
Personally, I'd prefer a fun game with lots of races and cool units over a balanced game any day. Seriously, games are meant to be fun(...)
I agree with you, their is 2 way to see a game ; i have the feeling DoW1 was made for fun, fun units, many races and a balance approximative.
But for me, i have more fun with only 3 race well balance ;) i loved the DoW1 units and gameplay ideas (relics have nice gameplay ideas always) but the bad balance made me angry tired :( i have no fun loosing cause bad balance...
20th Jul 08, 3:07 PM
This is possibly the least-answerable question I've ever seen asked here...
I remember you. Always posting threads about overpowered races, refusing to blame yourself for any losses (even with obvious replays).
20th Jul 08, 3:16 PM
DoW 2 is already a greatly different game so we'll really have to see in the end how it turns out. But experience does count for something, so I'm guessing all that balancing work done for DoW + expansions will help.
20th Jul 08, 3:20 PM
CoH isn't actually that bad in the balance dept., and Relic have changed their balancing methodology to fix what problems there are, like the beta test patches and such. If they have any sense at all, they'll carry this over to DoW2, and I'm fairly sure they intend to. DoW2 is also scheduled to have a beta, where they'll probably iron out most of the kinks.
You are aware that this isn't an official Relic forum, right? Addressing them directly, especially with such a question as yours, isn't going to get you very far here. Besides, I'm sure they damn well know DoW wasn't very well balanced. We all gave them an earful for it, and they took measures to correct that in future games. You shouldn't look at soulstorm for reference, because it was developed by the now-defunct Iron Lore.
20th Jul 08, 3:51 PM
LMAO soulstorm is well great fun if you like UNIT LIMITS for crying out they have made it to easy for the limit to be reached in such a small time and the main limit (the entire limit)is to small so.
DOW 2 should be like world in conflict they have already said theres going to be no base building so really it already sounds like WIC and in WIC they have tatical aids so little editing here and there (example the the space marines could have drop pods)
oo and HI newbie lol :D
20th Jul 08, 4:04 PM
DoW2 balance upon release will probably have some issues but hey. they, relic will work on it.
as many have said. DoW2 will be relics new cash machine so there going to make it work.
as for unit limits in SS, im glad. something was insanly wrong with elites flooding the battlefield, WA for instance.
Hardcaps are a must for good gameplay.
20th Jul 08, 4:10 PM
Yes, hardcaps certainly help. I'm sure we all remember late game Terminator spam teleporting into your base in WA.
If you want a direct answer from relic, you'd be much better off e-mailing them or posting on their official forums. You've been around long enough to know that this isn't an official forum, and as a result, the chances of actually getting your question answered are about 0%.
For that reason, and the fact that it's frankly far too early to be speculating on balance, I think we're done here.
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