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Goodlight
19th Feb 09, 5:18 PM
Why do YOU choose Orks over the other races? I use them because the other guy can only go WTF when your 1950's rusted out volkswagon with a lawn mower on the front beat his tank.

Frigidair44
19th Feb 09, 5:32 PM
I choose the Orks because of their personality. They are funny, comical, and the BEST.

Orks, Orks, Orks, Orks... red wun's go fasta!!!

I picked them when they were weak sauce and DoW and now when they rule the roost so to speak in DoW2.

That and I dislike the Space Marines from the fluff (what I know about it) and a gameplay standpoint. They destroy whole races in their infancy out of a Xenophobic fear of the Alien, mutant, and heretic. Good guys? Hardly.

My first match on-line was against a DoW1 SM player and he just dropped 4 walkers in my base and trashed me. Since then I always thought the SM were cheap... even when they became laughable in the later versions. Some blows never heal I suppose...

whatsleft
19th Feb 09, 5:59 PM
because they are neither good nor bad, they dont care about xenos or whoever, they are just there for a good fight. thats why i like them.

whoever created orks is mah emperah.

Hipstead
19th Feb 09, 7:13 PM
Something about taking on the most technologically adavanced races in the universe with crudely fashioned axes, bits of scrap metal for armor makes me like dem Orks

czechmate
20th Feb 09, 11:55 AM
dude u got to laugh when you listen to what the ork units say...like...'don't hit me....that won't work' and other things that i can't remember now..lol..

ViS
20th Feb 09, 11:58 AM
Sluggas are the best unit in the game.

tokalon
20th Feb 09, 6:47 PM
I dunno, they just seem right for the gameplay style for me. The other races have some really cool dynamics, and stregths, but a good ork player had to rely on solid strategic ground to route your opponent. There's something about their tenious balance that makes them really satisfying to play,

Goodlight
20th Feb 09, 8:13 PM
Quote: Does that count as a triple post? I dunno sorry apparently i just deleted my post? Im working off a phone because im board and i dont have a computer right now so somehow i had the same paragraph 3 times and then deleted it looking for the edit button... I feel lame... But! Orks are amazing now compared to before. I agree with you.

ViS
20th Feb 09, 8:23 PM
They're NOT as amazing as they were before.

Goodlight
21st Feb 09, 9:52 AM
I disagree. Before the only time i ever really had an easy game with Orks was in qs and that was because i could super spam melee units faster than any other race. In any other matchup, flamethrowers killed my poor morale light inf. Some people think Deff Dreds suck, but at the cheaper price, you can have more walkers out than the other races, and that counts for quite a bit, weaker or not.

ViS
21st Feb 09, 11:34 AM
Oh, you're talking about DoW1? I thought you meant pre-patch.

Yeah, they were the third best race in DoW1.

-_-;

Goodlight
21st Feb 09, 1:14 PM
They are quite good right now, eldar and sm just cant handle so many units, and nids get raped by flamethrower and nades

Latias418
21st Feb 09, 1:33 PM
Good guys? Hardly.

They aren't supposed to be, so I have no idea why you would stick that tag on them.

duffbeer
24th Feb 09, 9:05 AM
"Shoot me? SHOOT YOU!"

that's why

Pellucid
24th Feb 09, 2:26 PM
Because I AM an Ork in real life. :p

Really, their flank and charge gameplay appeals to me greatly and I find them very amusing.

Koozer
24th Feb 09, 2:44 PM
"Humie kill! That's 2 points!"

That's why. Also, gratuitous amounts of dirty explosives.

HiveMind
25th Feb 09, 4:40 AM
Firstly, dey is da Orks, and da only ting betta dan an Ork is a bigga Ork. Also, the Kommando Nob is an awesome commander, he's just too much fun to use. Also, it's a refreshing change to be able to spam Sluggaz and krump stuff rather than getting danced, 'coz dat's proppa an' Orky.

CyrusReij
25th Feb 09, 9:12 AM
Their voices are absolutely HILARIOUS, even minor things that aren't supposed to be funny:


"The allied Warlock is back in his camp! Probably shining his helmet or something...."

"Look! I've got a stikbomma..."

"Its dem Big Humiez!"

"The allied Farseer is back in her camp! Lazy that is..."

"A power generator's blown up! Happens alot, that does"

"No Eldar is getting my teef!"

"Speshul ammo!"

the list goes on and on...

Frigidair44
25th Feb 09, 9:34 AM
They aren't supposed to be, so I have no idea why you would stick that tag on them

Because the games presents of heroes defending mankind, and the game in general. Make no qualms about it, the 40k universe is almost completely centered on them.

The way people talk about them and revere them in general media (internet, games, discussion), they are definitely painted as the poster boys fighting the fight to preserve mankind. That mankind being a xenophobic, racist, murderous, god-fearing bunch of lunatics. Well at least in the dark age of 40K.

You can't take away that fact from them: they are painted as they 'good guys' or at least the most identifiable race that we can understand in the 40k universe. I like their fluff, but I just don't like them as a race. Its why I'm buying codex's now.

But this is a discussion about Orkz. I just love stomping Space Marines with them because its so satisfying.

Humie kill! Thats two points!

casalino
25th Feb 09, 8:12 PM
Loved the Orks in all Warhammer games. Couldn't wait to make an Ork in Warhammer Online.

Flormelis
26th Feb 09, 2:34 AM
NEED MOAR DAGGA DAGGA!

Thoragoros
1st Mar 09, 10:24 AM
I think in Warhammer terms, where pretty much everyone is 'lunatic,' the Space Marines are indeed the closest you've got to good guys.

You say 'xenophobic,' but who among the alien and heretic races wouldn't destroy mankind in an instant if not given the oppurtunity? Thus, the Space Marines kill rather than allowing their fellow humans to be killed.

Also, from a fluff perspective, talk about heroes is kind of silly, and yes, when compared to characters like Horus, Abaddon the Despoiler, any given 'Ork' Warboss, and certainlly any pirating Dark Eldar Cabal or Tyranid Hive Fleet, yes, the Space Marines are humanity's heroes.

LandShark
1st Mar 09, 11:15 AM
Tau i would consider the good guys. instead of destroying other races, they atleast try to bring them under thier control.

humanity is in the dark ages all over again, and the culture displays it.

ichangedmyname
1st Mar 09, 11:29 AM
Can all you nerds stop trying to type in Ork speak. It's embarassing. :/

Eldar FTW!

Cadian Guard
1st Mar 09, 11:38 AM
the thing is LandShark the tau still genocide other races that dont accept their ideology. They just genocide in a more "civilized" matter.

Yah i play as the orks for their personality as well. they are hilarious at times and its just funnny that orks can smash super soldiers with a shoddy axe

LandShark
1st Mar 09, 11:40 AM
i know cadian. kinda why i said this.


instead of destroying other races, they atleast try to bring them under thier control

they atleast try to be friends first.

Pellucid
1st Mar 09, 11:58 AM
they atleast try to be friends first.They try to be friends the same way the Imperium does: "Follow our ideology or we will kill you all." The Imperium accepted Ogryn, Ratlings, and even what few Squats are left as long as said Ogryn, Ratlings, and Squats venerated the Emperor.

LandShark
1st Mar 09, 12:02 PM
because they were humans at one point. they dont accept any alien races. even talking to an alien is treason.

Full_ork
1st Mar 09, 1:03 PM
they atleast try to be friends first.

Actually it's more like the tau's way or death, they don't try to be "friends" they enter a planet and basicly tell them join them or die.

That isn't "good" by any standardards.

If they fought defensive wars I could see it, but according to the fluff they outright attack and force there way on others, that isn't being friends or good guys.

In truth the whole 40k universe has no "good guys" though most side with the imperium because they represent humanities future.

LandShark
1st Mar 09, 1:08 PM
the ultimate goal is a peaceful unified universe for the tau. None of the other races wish that, not even the eldar.

I do agree there are no good guys, but the tau are the nicest of all the races.



The Greater Good is the central philosophy that unites all Tau. It says that everyone one is equal and plays an important part of Tau society. It tells them to put away petty squabbles and unnecessary things to unite for the greater good of the rest of the race. As implied in Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, the Tau have no intention to destroy religion or culture. However, these enhancements are rarely wanted by the other races of the galaxy.

that is the official stance of tau. if that isnt good in theory, i dont know what is.

Demonic Spoon
1st Mar 09, 1:21 PM
Can all you nerds stop trying to type in Ork speak. It's embarassing. :/


Eldar FTW!

SO in the first sentence we condemn all the "nerds" for talking in a weird dialect for shits and giggles, and then in the very next sentence you use old gaming slang. Well done.

Thoragoros
1st Mar 09, 1:31 PM
LandShark, in Tau society, 'Tau' are still superior, it is very much an apartaid style government, and if the 'equals' don't conform, they are annihilated. That's not 'good' that's 'conquest' just like the Emperor during the Great Crusade.

Also, I think it might have been you that said you play as the Orks as opposed to the 'evil' Imperium. You do realize that while humanity is fighting for survival, regardless of how brutal they may be in that fight, while the Orks fight and slaughter merely for the thrill of it, don't you? Orks are kind of mindless killing with comic relief thrown in for the heck of it. :slap:

Pellucid
1st Mar 09, 1:34 PM
that is the official stance of tau. if that isnt good in theory, i dont know what is.It's not good in theory. It's the complete sacrifice of individualism in favor of the collective. It's the worst form of communism. Really, the Warhammer 40K races all have absurdly extremist forms of government, and that's what they seem to represent:

Imperium: Extreme Theocracy
Orks: Extreme Anarchy
Eldar: Extreme Oligarchy
Tau: Extreme Communism
Necron: Extreme Fascism (with a hint of Theocracy)
Chaos: Extreme Feudalism

LandShark
1st Mar 09, 1:41 PM
your best chance at a normal life would be with the tau. under the imperium you are to likely to be conscripted and use as cannon fodder, or some inquisitor and declares your planet heretical, and kills everyone.

any way you want to spin it, The tau are the good guys, even if they arent truly good in our world.

Thoragoros
1st Mar 09, 1:48 PM
*caugh* Damocles Crusade *caugh*

Just one example of Tau brutality.

Why do you excuse Tau brutality and apartaid ruling system but not the brutality and fanaticism of humanity who is merely fighting to survive? Without the Imperium the entire galaxy would have long ago been overrun by the hordes of Chaos, that has to count for something.

LandShark
1st Mar 09, 1:53 PM
for christs sake.

im just saying that if i were to make a turd sandwich i had to eat, it would be the tau turd sandwich.

None of them are good, but they are the best.

Full_ork
3rd Mar 09, 7:09 AM
your best chance at a normal life would be with the tau

Assuming you followed the tau's culture/rules and obeyed there every commands then yes.

That's the thing with the Tau and why I can't see them as I good guys in this universe, they outright force other races to behave how they want, and I doubt a firewarrior is equal to the Etheral.

Cadian Guard
3rd Mar 09, 7:17 AM
well considering something i heard about the ethereals having some sort of physic ability in which they control the tau, he wouldnt have a hard time following their commands and since the ethereal would be in control, he would be too brainwashed to care that he's a member of some downtrodded caste....assuming that he wouldnt be a firewarriors...

now lets get back to da orks shall we?

tehzenmaster
4th Mar 09, 1:09 PM
In the 40k universe every faction are either religous fanatics, mindless genocidal monsters, demon worshippers, brutal tyrants, amoral plotters, xenophobic maniacs, silly space undead or a combination of the above.

There are no good guys at all and thats why I love the orks: a horde of deranged, green retards who dont care about anything and dont even contemplate the existence of morals. Closest thing to neutrality around there XD

Kiri
5th Mar 09, 6:55 AM
Orks are the good guys.

Seriously, by their own standards, they are the most morally upstanding race in the game. They exist to fight, and they fight. And that's it!

@li3n
5th Mar 09, 7:07 AM
Tau: Extreme Communism


Except that they have a strict class system... they're more like utilitarian socialist...


Orks: Extreme Anarchy

Anarchy literally means without leaders...

Ceorl
5th Mar 09, 1:17 PM
Only the Orks would cause a Space Marine to curse, "They're trying to run us over with our own stolen tank!"

How can you not love them after that? :D

PlasmaSargeant
10th Mar 09, 1:00 PM
I enjoy their fast production rates and easy-to-grasp gameplay style. They're my favorite race, and imo more fun to play as then the Tyranids, and certainly more fun the Space Marines.

Fat_Bloke
10th Mar 09, 6:52 PM
LOL, the tau way of life is a myth, they are being controlled from behind the scenes by someone. General consensus is it's either the eldar or the Deciever.

Orks are the best cos they are fun. I played space marines through the whole of DOW and until recently in DOW 2. I played one game with the kommando nob and havn't looked back, his name is Jayne for any fellow browncoats out there.