Are drops and optional mission rewards stritctly random?

[Corvus Corax]

I'm doing endless optional missions just before the final campaign mission and I'm just not getting what I want. Three of my squads are at L20 and the remainder are w/i a level or so of max (well, Thule is only L16).

What I'd like to get is an assault cannon for Thule, so he can go ranged, and a named auto-cannon for Avitus. All I seem to get are useless L15 (or lower) power armor and weapons.

If I actually used Thule more frequently on missions would that increase the chance of dread-related drops? I doubt it, as I gotten several armor plates and power fists for him and I haven't taken him on a mission for quite a while.

[konfeta]

AFAIK it's completely random.

I got every weapon type at least once. Maybe the drops are generated based on a seed you get per campaign, so it might mean you are out of luck.

[Corvus Corax]

A defend mission with an L16 dread assault cannon as a reward just popped up. Looks like I'll be able to make Thule a ranged monster after all. :)

[GodisanAtheist]

Asscannon thule is positively disgusting. 650 DPS makes the enemies of man cry.

[CommissarRezail]

Can we not refere to the assualt cannon, as well "asscannon" I would very much like another word for it.

[Corvus Corax]

God:

With the "Fire of the Ancients" cannon (126 damage and some other stuff), Thule is currently getting 808 dps...with 3 points left to put into combat. However, Avitus has Thule beat. With only the default termie cannon he's getting 906 (combat maxed).

[konfeta]

Avitus has higher DPS, but the Assault Cannon does more damage overall because of Hellfire rounds AP properties and Barrage.

[Corvus Corax]

I just did a nid "kill the boss" mission with both Thule and Avitus in my squad. You may be right about overall damage, but I think my Avitus is a bit more effective...at least against the nids atm. He's got farther sight for one thing, tho' that probably due to one of his accessories. Thule's now a "venerable" which I admit makes him look very cool.

I'm about to do the final campaign mission (with Thule and Cyrus at L18, everybody else at L20), as the "defend" missions are just getting too annoying. Maybe that's the point...to get you to finish.

[GodisanAtheist]

ASSCANNON! ASSY McASSCANNON! HA!

Yeah, at lvl 20 I got a smooth 900 DPS with Thule. Avitus ain't far behind either. But of all things, TARKUS is kicking everyone's ass at a mind boggling 1100 DPS!

Its kind of ridiculous with everyone in terminator armor, as I end up punching bosses to death in about 15 seconds.

[Osborn]

I do think the drops are random item from a big list...
when you get everythings on the list, you don't get anything at the end :P

[Thrud]

Can we not refere to the assualt cannon, as well "asscannon" I would very much like another word for it.

Another word for Asscanon?

Bumbolter
Buttboomer
Rearend-rokkit (orky)
Bootybazooka
DerriereDestructor
Arseaccelerator rifle
Spinctralshurikencatapult
Posterialplas-pounder

Jeez, thats 20 seconds of your life Ive wasted. Sorry...


I have got some armours come around twice, and some items that have negative values. Dunno if that was a reward for being rubbish.

[ViS]

Another word for Asscanon?

Bumbolter
Buttboomer
Rearend-rokkit (orky)
Bootybazooka
DerriereDestructor
Arseaccelerator rifle
Spinctralshurikencatapult
Posterialplas-pounder

Jeez, thats 20 seconds of your life Ive wasted. Sorry...


I have got some armours come around twice, and some items that have negative values. Dunno if that was a reward for being rubbish.

Epic post. I'd sig that if it was shorter.

[Milkshaker]

@ Thrud: Lol ;)

On another note, I still have no assaultcannon for my dread, and im at the final mission in the campain on prim @ level 16. Still need to get the armor from the warboss tho :)

[Grov]

My Force Commander in in Termie armour and has a level 20 shield and storm hammer, he is putting out 1500 in melee.

I just found a heavy bolter for Avitus that when eqipped is doing 2500DPS, but im not sure wether to use that, or give him termie armour and use the level 20 cannon i have.

[smg7618]

I got Thule turning a little over 1150 with an asscan.

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt326/smg7618/screenshots/th_relic00005.jpg (http://s624.photobucket.com/albums/tt326/smg7618/screenshots/?action=view&current=relic00005.jpg)

[Chris]

I don't think ranged damage is strictly their DPS, as always Relic like to make their unit stats unintuitive and a complete mystery. :p

In addtion:

Avitus with Neverending Hail Of Devastation + bonus' from armour/purity seals can approach the region of 3000 ranged damage.

[Kidicarus]

I can pretty much confirm that, I've got Avitus on 3275 damage with Unending hail of devastation and about 13 energy regen.

edit: Also, on day 50+ quest reward screens are blank and optional targets do not drop additional loot.

[HiveMind]

I seem to be lucky here. While I always get far too much scout armour, I've always managed to get a decent mix of equipment. Hooray.

Rezail: Just plain ass can, then?

[killer-ra]

I never did put Avitus in Termie gear, because the Neverending Hail Of Devastation is just too beastly. Insane DPS + Knockback + suppreesion means everything in his cone of fire will die, plus he has no setup time.

[Thrud]

Neverending Hail Of Devastation ...

Where is that from?

I think I am up to the last mission, all of my guys on lvl19, though I have many different optional missions left, the rewards are all pants. Ive done the warboss an avatar. In fact, most of my weapons are rubbish.

[konfeta]

It's a random mission reward.