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Sithdemon
19th Mar 09, 6:12 PM
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=219157

At first I mess up, and just commit some blunders. but I also get worried about taking on a hive tyrant as a exarch, especially since I know warriors are on their way even faster since I let them gain ground. But I microed a bit better, and didn't mess up my tactics and I use the swarm, synapse, and slowness of a few of the tyranid units against them.

Now I just gotta dig up replays where I break down some raveners, even two of them, cause it's quite doable, though not easy if your not communicating with your team, and making a point of destroying tunnels.

Nids aren't OP IMO (maybe some tweaks here and there), just using them is more straight forward for most people. The counters for them only a few are easy to realize, like AOE weapons. But using the available cover, since nids usually are more worried about sticking to synapse then cover, choosing to either take on the lighter creatures or trying to drop a synapse creature and creating feed back are all things harder to weigh, and I can't stress enough using their slowness against them. Range is the best weapon against tyranids and swarms in general.

Chaos!!!
20th Mar 09, 11:00 AM
He said slow lol.

Brenil
20th Mar 09, 11:52 AM
You're using a 3vs3 as an example to say Tyranids aren't overpowered?

Okay...

Since we're tossing out replays to prove points, how about I rebuke with one of my own:

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=218335

That match has two Tyranid abusers showing you how much bullshit a Ravenor + Warrior spam can be and oh, wait for it, there's more. They also spam the ever-living crap out of Carnifexes.

Aokin
20th Mar 09, 5:10 PM
Carnifexes really upset me, because Tyrannids invariably go quiet any time their armies are met and bested only to bring out Carnifex to further accommodate the senseless imbalance.

however, Tyrannids are also by far my worst match, not just because of imbalance, I really must develop strategy to properly play them...so far that would be Channeling Runes and Banshees. Yet timing and choosing the right time to commitment is still a definite requirement.

ViS
20th Mar 09, 5:17 PM
OP needs to play against some proper opponents.

Latias418
20th Mar 09, 5:38 PM
itt i played against a noob, therefore nids are balanced because he cannot use them

Malecite
20th Mar 09, 7:29 PM
Brenil I watched that entire replay and both you and your team played well. I even saw you field 2 squads of rangers and 2 squads of warp spiders against his warriors. An odd choice but whatever, I dont think you lost becuase of the ravener or warrior spam... I think you just got outplayed man. You naded the warriors regularly and won more battles than you lost, in the end you just couldn't cap the vic points.

Brenil
20th Mar 09, 8:40 PM
An odd choice but whatever, I dont think you lost becuase of the ravener or warrior spam... I think you just got outplayed man. You naded the warriors regularly and won more battles than you lost, in the end you just couldn't cap the vic points.

Uhh.. are you referring that part toward me or the OPer? In that replay I posted, we didn't lose...

hellic
20th Mar 09, 8:58 PM
Gosh, way to spoil it.

Brenil
20th Mar 09, 10:19 PM
Honestly, if I had lost, would I have posted it? That goes for most people, not many post their losses unless they want to try to learn from others where they went wrong.

Corrion
21st Mar 09, 10:46 AM
My team (Warlock, Techmarine, Ravener) just recently faced off a unique 3-team (Hive Tyrant, Ravener, Warboss) where the Hive Tyrant opponent just literally spammed Spore Mines to back up his two teammates who went Adrenal Warriors and Shoota Boyz until he was able to spam Carnifexes. I felt rather disgusted at their "strategy" at the end of the skirmish, but I can't figure out a way to counter this army makeup. Unfortunately I didn't save the replay, but we were all top players (TS30+). Just thought I would get some feedback from you guys.

ViS
21st Mar 09, 11:11 AM
lol@TS30+ being top players.

Corrion
21st Mar 09, 11:58 AM
Guess I should reword =P , but my point was that we weren't idiots.