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5th Feb 02, 9:31 AM
If this was on yesterday's forum before it got wiped, please forgive me. Otherwise, I thought this was all too fun for anyone who remembers last years giant horrible arguments. (Hey, they were fun. :) )
5th Feb 02, 11:12 AM
lol... that's exactly what its like... here especially.
5th Feb 02, 12:20 PM
bah, you think its bad here?
You should take a look around this place (http://vbb.volition-inc.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi).
5th Feb 02, 12:37 PM
But *pax* I do desire to read what other people write. And I don't swear, at least, not at people.
5th Feb 02, 7:28 PM
OMG, lol... That just about sums up the content of those things...
tho I always did like a good debate (even if they didn't solve anything :D)
That's about right. You think the debates here are senseless and obscene...check out one of the non-gaming community teen sites,Bolt (http://www.bolt.com). The setup is a little weird, but click on Boards on the left side to get to their listings. The funniest ones are in Boards->Religion->Is there a God?
i can sit there laughing at some of the things people say. Check out the animal rights and cloning and that other controversial stuff. Rarely does anyone there know anything.
5th Feb 02, 7:49 PM
Ah, those were the days... Nothing quite so fun as being a lurker and watching people attempt to intellectually bludgeon each other.
Anyhow, would our old..erm...friend Omnislash and his followers fall under the category of "line by line attacking," would you say?
Tygre, you don't actually post on that site, do you? I suddenly have a new appreacition for our mods.
don't do it...they send you feminine hygene ads. Too bad I can't unregister...maybe I could get myself banned from there. Off I go!
There's a whole bunch of people arguing about vegetarianism...you're mistar biology guy, what's the deal on omnivores that do not "believe" in evolution speeding up the process by changing their eating habits?
5th Feb 02, 9:16 PM
Not to start talking about that here, but you've got to link me because while the words you've typed are all in English, when my brain tries to process them it assumes I must be trying to read a language I don't know, and gives up.
5th Feb 02, 9:33 PM
Originally posted by Tygre
they send you feminine hygene ads
Be honest, that's what you signed up for, hmm?
5th Feb 02, 11:35 PM
That cartoon is fucking gay. Take your stupid shit elsewhere, assclown.
6th Feb 02, 7:43 AM
Oh no! I'm an assclown and I have to leave...
6th Feb 02, 2:11 PM
Stu seems more than happy to follow their advice...
6th Feb 02, 2:29 PM
laff @ stu
you punkass faghead, your opinion aint worth f***, bitch
OMG bolt all over again!
Be honest, that's what you signed up for, hmm?
You bet. :p No, apparently I accepted an invitation to sign up with the place from a girl in some class a few years back...probably the unmoderated chatrooms. Whatever.
And yes, I post as cynically as possible and try to troll.
And noone complains about annoying users there...I haven't gotten myself banned yet.
taken from http://www.advicemeant.com/flame/12comand.shtml
THE 12 COMMANDMENTS OF FLAMING
[list=1] Make things up about your opponent: It's important to make your lies sound true. Preface your argument with the word "clearly."
"Clearly, Brian Hillis is a racist, and a dirtball to boot."
Be an armchair psychologist: You're a smart person. You've heard of Freud. You took a psychology course in college. Clearly, you're qualified to psychoanalyze your opponent. "Peach Pshawski, by using the word 'zucchini' in her posting, shows she has a bad case of ... "
Cross-post your flames: Everyone on the net is just waiting for the next literary masterpiece to leave your terminal. From OPINION to EZ-READER to PETS to CHIT-CHAT, they're all holding their breaths until your next flame. Therefore, post everywhere.
Conspiracies abound: If everyone's against you, the reason can't possibly be that you're a ******. There's obviously a conspiracy against you, and you will be doing the entire net a favor by exposing it.
Lawsuit threats: This is the reverse of Commandment #4 (sort of like the Yin & Yang of flaming). Threatening a lawsuit is always considered to be in good form. "By saying that I've posted to the wrong group, Didley has libelled me, slandered me, and sodomized me. See you in court, Didley."
Force them to document their claims: Even if Ralph Gagliano states outright that he likes tomato sauce on his pasta, you should demand documentation. If Newsweek hasn't written an article on Ralph's pasta preferences, then Ralph's obviously lying.
Use foreign phrases: French is good, but Latin is the lingua franca of flaming. You should use the words "ad hominem" at least three times per article. Other favorite Latin phrases are "ad nauseum," "vini, vidi, vici," "fetuccini alfredo,"...
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Accuse your opponent of censorship. It is your inalienable right to post whatever the hell you want to the net. Anyone who tries to limit your cross-posting or move a flame war to alt.fan.karl-malden.nose is either a communist, a fascist, or both.
Doubt their existence: You've never actually seen your opponent, have you? And since you're the center of the universe, you should have seen them by now, shouldn't you? Therefore, they do not exist! This is the beauty of flamers' logic.
Lie, cheat, steal, leave the toilet seat up.
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20th Feb 02, 5:32 PM
No, you people are all wrong. The very best list on how to argue is on rinkworks.com (http://www.rinkworks.com/persuasive). It includes useful tips such as
Talk relentlessly, especially when your opponent is also trying to talk. Interrupt constantly. If you never give your opposition a chance to give the other side, you win by default.
Opponent: "Australia seems like a cool place to visit."
You: "What? How can you say that? Australia is too hot! You'll die of thirst! And there are diseases and wild dogs--"
You: "--and you can't see the ground because there are so many snakes and spiders, and they are ALL DEADLY. But that's ok, because the jet lag will be so extreme that you'll spend your entire vacation sleeping in the hotel room, which will probably smell and have deadly spiders crawling--"
You: "--around it, and plus everybody talks funny, and they're all CRAZY. Have you SEEN 'The Crocodile Hunter'? The hole in the ozone down there gives them all brain cancer--"
You: "--and they all get tumors which drive them insane!"
You: "And furthermore, they're all criminals! Australia is just one big country-sized maximum security prison for thieves and murderers! I can't believe..."
No persuasive argument would be complete without a little rhyming. Not only does it make you sound clever, but, when used correctly, it can make your opponent sound ignorant. To employ this amazing persuasive tool, you take one of your opponent's points and make up a nonsensical rhyming word to go with it. This tactic has no known refutation.
You: "There are no people on this planet that do not believe in democracy."
Opponent: "Yes there are. They're called communists."
You: "Communists schmommunists!"
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