Engine Trail MODs/Enhancements (Image HEAVY) Adv. WaterTrails RELEASED

[Tefeari]

Here are all the engine trails I have released currently.

WATER TRAILS

http://dsholz.com/relicnews/Wt1.jpg
http://dsholz.com/relicnews/Wt2.jpg

These are the newest released trail that gives all ships a waterfall/water like trail, similar to the alpha trails but, it works on ALL SHIPS, including missiles.
Get it here (http://dsholz.com/relicnews/watertrailsV1.zip)

ALPHA TRAILS

http://dsholz.com/relicnews/ss00138.jpg
http://dsholz.com/relicnews/ss00149.jpg
http://dsholz.com/relicnews/ss00153.jpg

This is a BETA version, it only changes the interceptor for the moment. However, this is a new kind of trail based on the style from the Pre-alpha version of Homeworld 2.
Get it here (http://dsholz.com/relicnews/AlphaTrailsV1a.zip)

PLASMA TRAILS
http://dsholz.com/relicnews/plasma.jpg

These change the trails of all the ships to a glassy plasma look.
Get it here (http://dsholz.com/relicnews/platrails.zip)

NO-TRAIL PATCH
http://dsholz.com/relicnews/ss00267.jpg

This patch turns off all ship trails and leaves a afterburner look (I did not make this afterburner look it is encoded in the game) However, the trails seem to show them selfs minorly if you zoom far out, it shouldn't be a problem.

Get it here (http://dsholz.com/relicnews/notrail.zip)

DustWars/Homeworld 1 Trails
This mod changes all the trails in the game, including missiles to a Homeworld 1 effect based off the DustWars trailers.

Get it here (http://dsholz.com/relicnews/hwtrailmod.zip)

Advanced Water Trails
http://dsholz.com/relicnews/ss00263.jpg
http://dsholz.com/relicnews/ss00264.jpg

This mod changes the interceptor trails to a new more advanced water trails effect.

Get it here (http://dsholz.com/relicnews/advwatertrails.zip)

HOW TO INSTALL

Step 1: Unzip all contents of any of the packs into your homeworld2/data folder
Step 2: Create a shortcut to the Homeworld 2 exe file located in Homeworld2/bin/release folder
Step 3: Right click the shortcut and press properaties.
Step 4: (This is a example, it should appear remotely like this) Rename the shortcut from
"C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe"
To
"C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe" -overrideBigFile

Step 5: Its installed, now run Homeworld 2 using that shortcut

Comments and Suggestions are appreciated.

[Captain Pierce]

They all look so good, I don't know where to start... :D

[SvK]

I demand pictures of the no-trail trail! :)

[Tefeari]

Done.

[varis]

Are they freely usable and redistributable by other modders?

[Captain Pierce]

I'm gonna have to say that the no-trail trail is my current favorite. :)

[Avatar Terminus]

I rather like the plasma trail and the water trail, but the notrail has something to be said for it.

[NovaBurn]

Does anyone else think that the water trails completely own the alpha ones?

[Uranium - 235]

God I can't imagine how the notrail one would be possible without nlips :p

Originally posted by varis
Are they freely usable and redistributable by other modders? According to the readme he wants you to ask permission first, which makes me question what's the point of releasing them then, but... whatever, I guess it's his right.

[SvK]

If I'm not mistaken, he's released them so you can download them and play around with them on your own computer.

[Uranium - 235]

Oh oops, thought this was in the main tanis shipyards listing.

[fearing]

they are all good but my favourite is notrail cause with it the game runs better on my not so new pc.

[Tefeari]

I just like knowing where my materials are going. So if you want to use it in a mod ask, pm me or something. Thats not asking much right?

I'm not going to hunt you down if you play around with the scripts or textures on your computer, just tell me if you want to release it.

[omiwan]

I like the option they do look nice but not fps nice Thank you for this release:)

[Coffeebean]

just a minor point from a guy who doesnt really know what hes doing....where do i put the rot files to get this to work? (the no trail one for example)
cheers for any reply chaps :)

[Tefeari]

Just extract the zip into your homeworld2/data folder

[Seb]

Hi everyone this is my first post. :)

Tefeari, I tried the Alpha trails, and they're simply amazing. They make watching battles so much better. Great job.

Are you planning to add engine trails to capital ships (like in the Dust Wars trailer)? Is it even possible? (I don't know anything about modding.)

[Tefeari]

It depends on the ship. Check out my thread in the Mods in Progress forum (Here http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21201 ) For developmental screenshots and such.

I have some of capital ship trails in there. And I'm trying to get a carrier with trails released soon.

[The Casualty]

Hey guys, the trails look great, I just can't decide! I really like the no-trails but as someone who plays with NLIPS off that's just inviting disaster :)

Any word on when the Alpha trails will be fully completed? I was thinking of using the Alpha's for my strike craft and frigates (is this possible?) and the water trails on all missiles.

[Tefeari]

Are you making the strike craft and frigates? If so, yes you could use them, you'd just have to talk to me first so I could tell you how to make the hardpoints support them (The hardpoints have to be a certain way for it to work). If you mean regular Homeworld 2 ships, the only other ship I can add the Alpha trails to right now is the Hig Assault/multigun Corvette (whatever it's called). I might release a new version of the alpha trails with that ship supported.

[BigBonsai]

Originally posted by Tefeari
Just extract the zip into your homeworld2/data folder
I keep reading in here and it is really amazing what you guys develop here!

So I guess its my stupidity that doesn't make this mod run. I extracted the files into the data folder, but nothing will change. I should add that before this there was nothing but the Animatics-Folder and the known *.big files in the data directory.

Forgot to mention that no mod files (of whatever mod) I extract into the data folder will work. Got the german version, btw. But this isn't it, I guess.

What am I overlooking?

Guess I make a fool of myself now... :murph:


BiB

[Tefeari]

HOW TO INSTALL

Step 1: Unzip all contents of any of the packs into your homeworld2/data folder
Step 2: Create a shortcut to the Homeworld 2 exe file located in Homeworld2/bin/release folder
Step 3: Right click the shortcut and press properaties.
Step 4: (This is a example, it should appear remotely like this) Rename the shortcut from
"C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe"
To

"C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe" -overrideBigFile

Step 5: Its installed, now run Homeworld 2 using that shortcut

There, I took that from one of my readmes... Hope it helps
I think you forgot the overridebigfile

[BigBonsai]

Great shot! That was it! Thx a lot! :howdy:


BiB

[Tel'Quessir]

http://www.dendezyn.net/mods/kennykoh/PDSScreenshots/SS01105.JPG

Just one of my own, alpha Interceptor trails in PDS, of course :)

[Coffeebean]

top stuff! got it working now and wow.....its so pretty! damn, good work!

[Homer Jr.]

"Top Stuff"? I've never heard that one before!

[beginner]

Cna you do a japanese anime style missles trails? (unless the game already does it)

[SlipStream]

'WOOT WOOT'

Itss finnaly done.

I will check em when I get the chance.

[VT001]

LOL angelfire=NO pic

[Tefeari]

wtf..? There are no Angelfile images posted on here.

[Dpath2100]

In slipstream's sig...

[Tefeari]

Ok, lets keep on topic for now though.

[SlipStream]

lol, thats mine is a link to my old website i never updated my profile here thats why its a dad link. I got a nouther website with them.



Anyways, I am haveing trouble getting the trail mods to work. can anyone help me. i have them in the right folder but when i go to reset the path in the folder i cant remember. It dosent work.


need help.

[Tefeari]

Did you do the overridebig command on your shortcut?

[SlipStream]

Ok I need help here :(


I didnt get the chance to over ruide because I messed the shortcut thing up. Then i had to use goback and go back in time in my comp so i could restore it. it was faster than reinstalling the game.


Is there a possible self instaler for the mods ?





If i override anything i am sure i will do some unrepairable damage somewhere :(

[Tefeari]

For some reason the Installer in the RDN package doesn't work for me. So no, there is no installer, but, luckly, its not that hard. All you do is unzip that zip. Then make that shortcut. IF YOU MAKE IT A SHORTCUT, messing it up will do NO HARM to your game. O_o

[Tel'Quessir]

As stated in another thread, do you still need modified Frigate HODs to add engine trails to?

[FlyingPenguin]

Tried out your trails, loved 'em. Quick question: Where can I find that 15 badge?

[Tefeari]

Thanks... Um.. I never released that 15 badge, I guess I could, I'll upload it to my server later. Its not quite perfect though, thats why I never released it.

Yea, Tel, I still have to get those modified frigates.

[Tefeari]

Homeworld 1/DustWars trails added.

[hwmodder]

Is this a client patch? Wait, thats a bad choice of words. Is it a gameplay modification, i.e. in MP, do both people need it for the game not to synch?

[Tefeari]

If the texture is changed to a ROT it might not be needed on both sides, however, I am unsure. Though elsewise, yes both sides need it.

[varis]

The water trails are my personal favourite. :-)

Is there any detailed knowledge on how these trails affect framerate?

[Tefeari]

All the trails but the Alpha and Adv. Water trails take pretty much the same cpusage as regular trails. The Alpha trails take about 33-50% more cpu.

[Ardak]

I have thought that why there's engine trail mods. Well, now I know.

[Tefeari]

Huh?

[psykoticusmc]

I have tried the water trails mod and nothing. I followed the directions you posted and still nothing. Does this not afffect the coll, interceptors, and scouts or should it do it to all ships that have trails? Help would be greatly appreciated. thanks

[The Monkey]

YOu put it in the right folder then you do -OverRidebigfile in shortcut.

The Monkey
:cool: :monkey:

[Dpath2100]

What he means is "-overrideBigFile"

[Tefeari]

The bottom of the first post on the first page of the thread explains how to install these mods. My modpackager isn't working on my computer and it isn't that hard to do.

[Leonides]

I installed the "no trails" mod exactly as described, but nothing happened. I have another mod installed (the Point Defense one), could this be the reason why?

[Tefeari]

I am unsure, it should work if you did it right, the no trails mod are just 2 rots in the effect/trails/ folder.

[Leonides]

Ah... it DID work, but all the interceptors still have them, while no other ship does. Strange.

[Tefeari]

Thats because the interceptors use a different graphic file thats not overriden by that ROT.

The Interceptor trails are my Alpha trails.

[Leonides]

Roger that. Thanks for your help and for the mod!

[Winejug0]

Hey Tefeari, Im trying to set up my game so that the interceptors use Alpha trails and the rest of Higgy use plas, but it doesnt seem to work, any idea?

[Tefeari]

Overwrite the interceptor from the Plasma trail with the alpha trail.

[Ride]

Hi

Is there a .big file format version of this mod for download yet? Look at this post (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=24671) for more information on this.

--Ride

[Tefeari]

No, my modpackager on my main computer doesn't work.

[Tefeari]

Adv. Water Trails Released.

[Sjeti scientist]

smoke trails. lol

[Tefeari]

Heh, yea, I could do those, infact, I did some experiments with it a while back, but it would probably only work on the interceptor or any other modified HOD for now...

[Tel'Quessir]

Smoke trails... LOL. Coal powered ships

Off to get water trails.

[Dpath2100]

Slightly off-topic, but no biggie... in the unlikely event that Tel'Quessir would make another PDS release:

Tel'Quessir - would you put these trails in it?

Tefeari - would you let him?

[Tel'Quessir]

What!? Were you playing the priest in a mock marriage or something? Sure does sound familiar to the err.. proceedings :)

[Tefeari]

Um, sure he could use these but, he was already using my Alpha trails for the interceptor.

[Tel'Quessir]

It does not say I couldn't replace them

.... if I wished to
:)
[LOL]

[Tefeari]

heh, I guess you could, think its that good? You could always make a pds version of it too and offer either.

[Dpath2100]

I do pronounce thee man and dog.

[DragonicChiken]

OK dudes i tried out a couple of these in single and in multi and they work the opponent being able to see them my question for some reason on my screen when i zoom in on the ships they tend to change colours for example i had yellow chosen but when i zoom in the trails changed to red just wondering how to fix this please?
Also for the creator of these great mini mods :) can you make something to change the ion beams to red or pink as seen in the original screenies before hw2 was released?

[Tefeari]

They have a mod for different ion beam colors already. Also, what trails are you saying this problem on?

[Tel'Quessir]

Pink ion beams! OMG.

What's next, wedding ribbons for my FFEs?

[LOL]

[DragonicChiken]

can you give the url for the ion beam and im having troubles with the water and alpha trails

[Tefeari]

There should be nothing wrong with colors if you installed it properly. Try reinstalling them. That sounds more like something with your videocard rendering differently.

[Fang]

Hey Tefeari, you seem to be the most knowledgeable and experienced with trials so considering I dont have excel, or the ability to get it. Could you perhaps explain the numbers next the the trail file name if you know what they do
see below example:

setEngineTrail(NewShipType,0,2,"trail_ribbon3.tga",0.1,0.5,0.025,6)


I would really like to know what they do (I think they might control how the trail looks in the game) but have not seen info in the wakiki so if you know could you tell me?

[Tefeari]

Open up the ship spreadsheet in the RDN packet, next to each number it pretty much tells you.

[DragonicChiken]

problem solved not sure what it was but i fixes it lol also still waiting on an answer for the ion colours as i have posted in the subject but no one is replying so maybe you guys could help me

[FUNKST:ORUNG]

I dont have excel, or the ability to get it.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=%22excel+viewer%22&btnG=Search

Shortcut: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4EB83149-91DA-4110-8595-4A960D3E1C7C&displaylang=EN

:bow: :google:


HTH, :o

[DragonicChiken]

hey guys just wondering if there is an estimation of when the advwatertrails for all ships will be finished also seems that the adv one for inties has a fault as you can build inties instantly with no ru can this be fixed please?

[Tefeari]

Thats in the .ship file, just change the build value and time back to its original, I'll release a version of that sometime but you'll have to wait, its not a bug, its how I test it.

[DragonicChiken]

ok thanx tef dude i eagerly awai release of the full version :) damn it on another note still cant change the ions lol

[Akilum]

When I try to use the Dustwars/Homeworld 1 trail engine mod, it only does 1 trail good, not the 2nd trail. So at my higgy interceptors for example I get one beam that's the default HW2 engine trail and your mod engine trail.

Any idea why this doesn't work fully like on the pictures?

Thanks in advance,
Akilum

[apofis920]

hello, for my mod, i would use your alpha trail and water trail of your mod.
do you give the permission to use your model please?

i use this trail for the elite ship.
thanks for your reponce.
bye Apo

[Drako]

Was there a simple way to get the Alpha trails to work for all class of fighters, as well as the corvettes? I see that they currently only work for interceptors, so just checking thx

[asda]

Erm, Why do I get the "Forbidden" error when I try to download them?

[Tefeari]

*bump*

[Mazer Rackham]

hey, is there a way to make trails for cap ships, like in some of the early screens

and also, can someone tell me where to find those cool weapon FX

[Tefeari]

What cool weapon FX? Those screenshots use default game weapon fx.

And I only have trails on two big ships, none others, it wouldn't be much of a release.

[Mazer Rackham]

no, i dont mean the screens

ive seen websites for homeworld with cool weapons, like rainbow ion beams =P

i was wondering if they have those for HW2 yet

[Tefeari]

There is a ion beam color pack somewhere, I don't know if its still around though.

Keep in mind, this is completely unrelated to this thread.

[Biggles]

I love the HW1 trails, the game still looks pretty but it doesn't chug as much as it used to.

Impressive 'water' trails also - good show.

[Loki]

yeh im having troubles with the no trail thing, i dont know where to put it... help plz!

[Tefeari]

Directions are in the beginning of the thread.

[Baron Iveagh]

I can't get these to download. Are there any alternate links for them?

[Tefeari]

All of the links work.

[vaygrnator]

bravo, encour, encour, (SP), (SP)

[Tefeari]

*bump* :p

[ThorinDP]

Only bump if you have something to announce. Otherwise, people can search in the archives of this board to find your mod.

[Tefeari]

Since the search option is disabled and many of the new people coming around might not have seen these I decided to bump it. Deal with it?

If you want a announcement, I'll just say I'm willing to help just about any mod team out there with trails if they want help (though thats not too new :nana: )

[Tel'Quessir]

*throws a whole mothership load of 50 .hods from PDS onto Tefeari's lap* *then a hundred ships from Warlords*

Engine trails please

(joking) :D

[Tefeari]

For each one? :-p lol

Hey, I wouldn't mind doing a few more for you Tel', maybe I should improve the alpha trails a little bit.

[Tel'Quessir]

Ah, thought about this a few nights ago:

Are you able to create new textures for hyperspace windows? If possible, I would like a more intense looking hyperspace effect. Basically much more white light in hyper transition.

[Tefeari]

Actually, the hyperspace effect is a combination of things (though this isn't engine trails I did a lot of experimentation with it :P ).

The hyperspace effect is first a general FX file but it also has several external textures which you can modify at your discretion. Though with these, you can't do much more then change the color and slightly the texture of the hyperspace window.

What I thought was cool for more dynamic effects, was to completely replace the HW2 hyperspace FX with another. One example would be the plasma explosion/flash effect as use as a hyperspace animation. You see a FLASH and when it’s gone, the ship is there.

I'm not entirely sure what you have in mind though?

[von-Richtburg]

bravo, encour, encour, (SP), (SP)
It's encore, not "encour"....

[Nocric]

As you announced, that you want to work with/help a modding team or someone: So I just wanted to remind you, that you youldn't forget my recuest: fire effect trails.
You also sayd, that you would work on trails only, but if you, somehow want to decide to work with FX-s, remember my recuest...

Srry in advance for any un-undrestandable part of this message

[Tefeari]

Check out the advanced water trails in the first page of this thread (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=23566&page=1&pp=15), that or something modified is probably as close as your going to get to fire.

[Tel'Quessir]

Some sort of flash is exactly what I had in mind for HS transition.

[Tefeari]

Alright cool, lets talk in PM about it then?

[Tel'Quessir]

That would take a while.

Posting @ work.

[Nikermaster]

hey im from the Space Combat Evolved team (not really in the team) but they are deciding which one to use so im just telling that we may use them ok?

[Tefeari]

Sure, just give credit, pm me if you make a release including them.

Your from the Halo mod though right? I thought halo didn't have ship trails?

Ah well, if you want something slightly custom maybe I'll whip it up for ya. Just PM me again.

[Nikermaster]

right im telling the other guys

[Nikermaster]

hey they are saying that they will take care of it their names are: Fallen9 or Zero1212

[Raver]

halo mod?

sweeeeeeeeet

i have whole database on the ships they use in halo/2 even the ones you dont see, anyway, awsome work on the trails, the glass/plasma ones are mad, still, very good work. :werd:

[jelamb]

Well, I must be an idiot or something, but I extracted the notrail.zip in my Data folder (meaning that flare.rot and trail_ribbon.rot are now in the Data folder) and then tried everything I could think of on the shortcut (-flare.rot ...etc). I just can't get this to work. What is the exact command I use for the notrail mod? I can do .big files, but these .rot's are throwing me for a loop. Thanks

[Jaen-ni-rin]

Try -overrideBigFile
Also those files shall be placed in their respective folders, not just in Data's root.

[jelamb]

Ok, so that's probably my problem: what are the "respective folders"? I had already tried looking for a folder containing those type of files but I didn't find one.

[Locutus]

In the future please PM some of the people listed in the newbie FAQ, rather than bumping ancient threads. Locked as per SOP regarding Necromantic bumps.

EDIT: Unlocked at the request of the thread author, since he has wishes to continue supporting this mod.

[Tefeari]

What are you trying to extract the zip with? If its winzip try highlighting the files and pressing "Extract to" and selecting the Data folder.

"Extract to" generally does it for any program, because it then extracts the zip to the specified folder with all files in their specified further positions.

[Jaen-ni-rin]

I've helped him already through PM.
He just needed to move the files into art/trails folder and convert them to .tga.

PS. Tef, how's Kadeshi mod. It's been quiet for quite long time...

[Turambar]

is it possible to use one of the trails to replace the default one, so that all of the ships use the changed one instead of default?

shouldnt i just be able to overridebigfile, then rename the .tga to have the same name as the default one?

Edit: and what is the name of the default one, so that i can try this

[Tefeari]

It depends on the trail, the alpha trails and advanced water trails can only be done on the interceptors because they require a modified number of engine hardpoints, the rest are already set to work on all the ships.

If you want to know the required file names try downloading the water trails and looking at the names I used.

[Isaic]

:hi: how long till the alpha trails work for every thing?

[Tefeari]

They won't sorry, it would take too much hardpoint work to do without Hwse2 and no one offered to help out on it.

[Isaic]

Lame :( why dont no one help him?

[Sastrei]

Probably because as he said, it's vastly too difficult without a HWSE2 style program. Is it even possible at all to add engine trails to a hod?

-Stefan-

[Tefeari]

Yea it is but you need to use Maya, which can only save HODs, not open them.

We can convert HODs to maya format but they loose the hardpoint information and would make us have to redo quite a bit of things.

[Sastrei]

Oh, interesting. I didn't know it was possible to derive a Maya source file from the .hods. Hm, rehardpointing an entire fleet for adding one engine trail....pass. :p

-Stefan-

[Tel'Quessir]

That's the main drawback of the improved engine trails, which is a pity as they look great - unless Tefeari intends to make a small TC out of a few custom-modelled ships. In this case one doesn't have to redo anything.

[Tefeari]

Very true, if anyone ever wants to equip their custom ships (from their mod) with the trails feel free to contact me.

If you make the hardpoints, I can configure the trails to the ship.

[Stormy_2021]

Hey i like the idea of no engine trails. If someone could make the Afterburner effect just as short but maybe brighter and thicker, it would look great and realistic.

[Tefeari]

I dont think anyone knows how to edit those.

[Tefeari]

If anyone is interested in helping me mod some of these trails back onto more ships with CFHodEd (it's possible right?) PM me or let me know.

[H.R.N.]

You should make your water trails and stuff compatible with other mods like TFS, Complex, PDS, etc...

[Tefeari]

I think PDS has my advanced water trails, but as far as making the regular water trails compatible with other mods, that's something the mod makers would have to do, not me.

All they have to do is make their .ship files reference the different engine trail texture for the water mod and it would work. Try asking them to do it, maybe they will.

[J-hawk]

What would be good if the water trails were avalable in the unnoficial 1.2 patch mod.

Me myself is toying around with an idea to make a sound mod (Basically old and re-mixed HW and HW:C sounds for HW2) - and if I go ahead with it, I would like to make versions of the sound mod that is compatable with the engine trails mod

[Tefeari]

Ask the respective mod developers to put it in, it's quite easy to do.

[kalX]

Is it me or is the no-trail patch link down?

[Tefeari]

Oops! It's not just you, It's back up, enjoy. :)

[kalX]

Thank you. :)

[Rico-]

:help: Hey, I've tried but failed to get any of these trail mods to work. :cry: :noway:
What do I need to get these working? :confused:

[Tefeari]

From the first post of the thread:

HOW TO INSTALL

Step 1: Unzip all contents of any of the packs into your homeworld2/data folder
Step 2: Create a shortcut to the Homeworld 2 exe file located in Homeworld2/bin/release folder
Step 3: Right click the shortcut and press properaties.
Step 4: (This is a example, it should appear remotely like this) Rename the shortcut from
"C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe "
To
"C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe " -overrideBigFile

Step 5: Its installed, now run Homeworld 2 using that shortcut

[Rico-]

Tried that, still couldn't get it to work. Do I need any updates to HW2 or something else??

[Tefeari]

I'm not sure if the patches make a difference but your copy of HW2 should be updated to the most recent version anyway. If you follow those directions correctly there is nothing that should go wrong. If you have any other mods installed they may be conflicting with each other. You should be extracting the effect, missile, and ship folders (or something like that) to the data folder and there isn't anything to go wrong after that unless you're doing the shortcut incorrectly.

[Alkezo]

So this couldn't work with, say, Complex mod? :)

[Tefeari]

It depends on if they use different .ship files for the particular ships that the given modification works on. These are just modified engine graphics textures and the .ship files that they are to work on need to refernce the alternative graphic files to function.

It is EXTREMELY easy for a mod developer to use these graphics in their mods or to make them compatible with it (They just make the ships reference the alternate textures), and they are free to do so as long as they give credit to me for the engine trails.

The only way to be sure is to try it, if it doesn't work feel free to ask the developers to make a version with a particular engine trail and they should be able to do it. Or if you are any good at scripting it should be simple to accomplish yourself.

[Alkezo]

Ah, I was looking more into modifying my own file for now as Beghins seems to be pretty busy as it is, working out all the bugs.

So its mainly just telling a ship to use a certain trail texture in the .ship file? I don't think it takes a scripter to use Find. ;)

Also, how hard would it be to just lower the life time of trails?

[Tefeari]

It's just a matter of going into the .ship file and changing the last line to refer to the partifuclar modified engine texture like ths following: setEngineTrail(NewShipType,0,3,"trail_ribbon2.tga",0.2,0.5,0.005,8);

One of the numbers in that script is the trail length but I forget which, you can find out through a small amount of investigation.

[Alkezo]

Thanks for the info, there's not that many numbers to change so I'll look into it. :)

[Rico-]

Ok here is what I have done. I extract the content of any mod to Homeworld2/data folder, I create a copy of Homeworld2.exe to desktop and right click on it and select properties, then I change the target from D:\Pelit\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe
to D:\Pelit\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe " -overrideBigFile, after that I run the game using that exe. In game nothing changed, still have those boring engine trails. What I have done wrong??

[Tefeari]

I hope you're making a shortcut and not a copy of the exe itself. Make sure there are quotes on both sides of the file path. I'm not sure if Vista would affect any of this.

Can you get any other mod to work?

[Rico-]

I created a shortcut to desktop by right clicking on Homeworld2.exe then send to ---> desktop(create shortcut).
You mean like other trail mod or something like pds or warlords??

Just tested complex mod, it works fine.

[Tefeari]

If you are extracting it into the data folder properly and have created the shortcut correctly there is nothing to go wrong. Thousands of people have installed this easily so I'm not sure what the problem is here. You've tried more than just one engine trail mod?

[Rico-]

:banghead: Oh my god, I have been blind or something, haven't noticed the change in the engine trail and thought that the mod doesn't work. All other mods works but not the notrail.

[Tefeari]

You need to extract the notrail mod directly into the data/effect/trails folder

[Rico-]

Ok, it's working now, thanks!

[Siber]

http://www.tefearimpor.com seems unreachable, and with it most of the images and all the files here. Is this a problem on my end, a passing thing, or something more tragic?

EDIT: Nevermind, it's back up today.

[RevonZZ]

But Tefeari, I only have the animatics and another data folder in my data folder! I need help!

[JMScomp]

I only have the animatics and another data folder in my data folder! I need help!

You need to remove the 2nd data folder inside your main data folder, and place it's contents in the main data folder (if that made any sense).

[Elite Protector]

I can't get the same effect as you with the Alpha trail in the Interceptors... But damn these trails look good! I promote the Alpha trail in the hgn ships and the Water trail in the vgr ships, gets very interesting, and it's just everyone's face :)

[H.R.N.]

Is there a way to get the mod to wok at the same time as another? So have both running at once?

[Tefeari]

H.R.N: It depends on which mods and which engine trails you're referring to. Most of the engine trail mods are just a new texture with modified .ship files to refer to it.

If the mod includes different .ship files they won't refer to the new textures by default. You can probably fix them by hand though pretty easily. The engine trail lines of code are near the end of the .ship files and the rest is identical. So you should be able to identify it pretty easily if you want to change it yourself.

Or you can always ask the mod makers to make a version that uses a particular sort of trails.

[fudge_dragon]

A page or so back you mentioned that you couldn't make the alphatrails and advancedwatertrails mods for all ships due to something to do with the HOD files. Well I found your mod the other day and downloaded those two packages. This morning I was mucking about with HOD files using Cold Fusion HOD Editor (by 4E534B I think) and have got alphatrails functioning on the Hiiggaran Gunship.
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7933/gunshipqq4.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gunshipqq4.jpg)
I still think I need to widen the middle trail and maybe broaden the engine burn to reduce the effect where the third trail mysteriously appears.

But thats beside the point. What I intend to do is do this for all ships and maybe missiles. Eventualy for both types of trail. I've renamed your trail images so they dont clash with your other trail mods or vanilla Homeworld 2, as I intend to set it up so I can mix and match the trail types for individual ships, but it would still be easy enough to convent it back. I cant commit to any kind of project as im in exam season at the moment but what im suggesting is that if you are still having problems I can let you have any of the .HODs and .SHIPs I finish. After all, its building on you're work, your entitled to it, :awesome:

[adamstrange]

I don't get it,why couldn't you get it to work ?

All you have to do is to dump all the trail mods into the EFFECT folder and just rename any of them if they share the same name with another file.

Then just assign each ship and missile a different trail.

Why would you mess with the HOD file ?

I have all the trails working in each of my mods without messing with the HOD file.

[fudge_dragon]

Really? From what I can see all your alpha trails and advanced water trails downloads have in them is the Hiigaran interceptor. All of your other trail mods work for all ships but those two. Have I missed an update on the thread where you posted a more complete link? If I have im terribaly sorry for any confusion caused.

[Tefeari]

Adam: Both the Alpha and Advanced Water trails use 3 trails to function. Only the Hiigaran Interceptor has 3 engine trail hardpoints by default.

Fudge_Dragon: I am very excited that you got a program to add a engine trail hardpoint to a classic HW2 ship. It doesn't look quite right because you forgot to tell the side trails to use the Alpha trail texture (all three need to be using it). Although there may be a size issue as well because the Gunship is wider than an interceptor, this would be easy to fix. If you will go ahead and add the extra hardpoints to all the ships I can appropriately adjust the scripts to make the Alpha/Advanced water trails to work with them. Have you thought about adding the trails to the new models the Homeworld 2.0 mod is producing?

[shiner980]

All the links are dead at this point, so does anyone still have the mod (specifically the Water, Plasma, and Dust Wars trails) to reupload, or can Tefeari please get the links to work again or upload at a place like filefront?

[L@pt0p Guy]

i have them

ill send them to someone in an e-mail who wants to host it again

send me a pm :)

[Tefeari]

Sorry, something is up with my server, I'll look into it and give you all a temporary mirror until I fix my main one.

[Tefeari]

Sorry it took so long, all the files are back up at their previous destinations.

[Felix24]

Hi, sorry for post in old thread, but - somebody have got these mods UNCOMPILET to BIGFile

[Tefeari]

I'm not sure what you're asking for, but due to a high amount of internet traffic from China (downloading my mods) my web server exceeded its monthly bandwidth limit. My download links should be back up again on Monday.

[ayres112]

Does anyone still have these the links don't work for me?

[Tefeari]

I'll try to get some mirrors up later today. Sorry everyone, my main server has been really unreliable lately.

[die harder]

When are the new links ment to be up the trails look alsome and also can anyone yes the trails in anyway like for their mod?

[Tefeari]

All the links on the front page should be working again.

Anyone can now use these files in their mods without permission. However, I would appreciate it if you gave credit to me in your mod and also sent me a pm telling me which trails you were using for your mod.

[Turambar]

http://i56.tinypic.com/298ryd.jpg

Check it out, Tefeari

[maxdamage]

All the links on the front page should be working again.

The NO-TRAIL PATCH (http://dsholz.com/relicnews/notrail.zip) and the DustWars/Homeworld 1 Trails (http://dsholz.com/relicnews/hwtrailmod.zip) links are dead.

[Tefeari]

Maxdamage: Thanks for reporting the problem. The links are fixed.

[-=[F@LC0]=-]

All Links are down again ... :-/

[templerlord]

Bump.

Hope the links could be fixed :-]

[templerlord]

so...I guess Tefeari is abondonning these mods...any other people who got the files and could send them?

I want the watertrailsV1.zip file. Anyone who got the file could mail it to templerlord@yahoo.com.cn . Much appreciated.