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Croaxleigh
7th Mar 10, 10:38 PM
As there's been a lot of speculation in 2 threads about what the chapter might be (given the comment about the Ultramarines just being a "placeholder" chapter due to the ease of creating their color scheme/iconography), here's a poll to see what people would like to see. I've included the most likely options (and a few that are less likely but still fan favorites), plus an "Other" option... if you choose "other", please tell who and why in a post in this thread.

Kharrak
8th Mar 10, 12:24 AM
I've not actually been overly exposed to any of the space marine chapters, outside of skimming through their entry on Lexicanum, but I've always enjoyed the art surrounding the Space Wolves :P

Bowkers
8th Mar 10, 10:50 AM
My vote was purely on the ease of the chapter to implement without seriously pissing off GW. I'm still leaning towards my original idea that it will be a completely new chapter that Relic can mess around with.

Imperial Honour
8th Mar 10, 11:00 AM
Kind of wish I could have voted twice as I would have loved to vote for the Blood Angels as well as the Dark Angels, seriously I believe you could turn the Blood Angel's blood thirst it to some kind of good gameplay mechanic with some thought. My third option would be for Relic to either use the Blood Ravens, or create an entirely new Space Marine chapter so they could be free of the limitations that even using the Blood Raven's could bring with having somewhat established fluff and whatnot already.

Hopit
8th Mar 10, 11:29 AM
I'm still saying black templars.

Croaxleigh
8th Mar 10, 11:56 AM
My personal preference would be for GW to create an entirely new Chapter for Space Marine, like they did for Dawn of War... just without the mystery of the Blood Ravens (because that could start to get old.) Make them a successor of a well-known and mostly-codex chapter, with a few quirks to make them unique, and give them some decent fluff to start from. That way Space Marine could have some decent storytelling without having to worry about tromping on the established fluff for a Chapter (and keeping the Blood Ravens DoW-centric.)

Pocktio
8th Mar 10, 12:03 PM
Anything but Blood Ravens. Relic need to inject some variety in their story. The immense wealth of back-story for each chapter is so immense they should really exploit that and stop focusing on one chapter I feel.

Croaxleigh
8th Mar 10, 1:04 PM
Well, it's understandable why they do Blood Ravens in the DoW games... GW created the Blood Ravens just for that purpose. The DoW games ARE the fluff of the Blood Ravens. I think that with the different focus of "Space Marine", though, that the BR wouldn't really fit in (and that it would help to cement them as the "Relic" chapter instead of just being the feature of the DoW series, which I wouldn't like to see happen.)

Nashnir
9th Mar 10, 7:27 AM
Dark Angels....ftw.
Can't get enough of them. Too few Novels on them too -_-"

Tyron
9th Mar 10, 8:16 AM
I really think that it should be Blood Raven, I don't love them but they sem to be the best chapter for games and they were invented for DOW1,2 and they should stick with them for this game too

ChaoticHorus
9th Mar 10, 6:16 PM
i think that is better the ultramarines as they are my favorite ones and i think they are the better.

Colonel_Darren
9th Mar 10, 10:33 PM
White Scars! For the Khan!!

panzerwzh
9th Mar 10, 11:41 PM
Black Templars!

Bowkers
10th Mar 10, 7:51 AM
instead of listing, could we give an explanation of why you picked them?

Supernaut
10th Mar 10, 1:29 PM
Again with a couple of others I believe Relic/GW should create a unique chapter for this game, while I wouldn't be too fussed if they used the Blood Ravens or any existing chapter I reckon it would give them a lot more room for story telling if they use their own.

As long as we can play MP with any chapter (current or our own) then I'll be happy.

Amcmilla13
10th Mar 10, 9:45 PM
I have to go with Imperial Fists on this one. I like the whole ranged combat speciality going on, and the codex entry that had them fending off the Tyranids against impossible odds really got me. And who doesn't love yellow armor?

Gabriel Angelos
11th Mar 10, 4:39 AM
Blood Ravens, they could be the masters of the chapter before gabriel angelos arrived.
They are quite popular and their lore is there alread, so this would be an ideal way to make their lore richer.

AridMonk
11th Mar 10, 6:24 AM
I voted other, for the simple reason that I believe they shouldn't create a set chapter in the Game, why not let people create their own?

(p.s if that's not possible then Black Templars cos they best conjure up the image of crusading space knights, and who doesn't love the idea of that?)

Ramrod
11th Mar 10, 6:37 AM
Rood Blavens.

Nah, really, I think Relic should stick with the Blood Ravens. I want to find out more about their mysterious origins, without having to trawl through anything by Goto.

Cortlendt
11th Mar 10, 8:14 AM
Dark Angels.

Mostly because I love the capes.

Kapp'n
11th Mar 10, 12:27 PM
Yeah I'm going to agree with Ramrod on that one. Then again this (me) is a guy speaking with very little knowledge in all this fluff/chapter business, only what DoW has fed me. Anyway, If done right I think it would be very interesting to see glimpses of the Blood Ravens backstory introduced into the storyline. It might make the game that little bit more of a personal experience in a way.

JDude
11th Mar 10, 2:49 PM
I would like the Black Templars.

My personal ideal would be to have the story be fairly generic (in the sense of not relying on any plot elements that are Chapter specific) and thus allow you to have a painter that would let you pick from a few established Chapters or make your own colours.

Supernaut
12th Mar 10, 9:46 AM
But a generic story would be crap, I'd much rather that they had a chapter they were allowed to weave a great story with - even if it was a real Chapter, why does your chapter matter in SP? I just feel it would detract greatly from the story if you just had your custom chapter and generic lines they spout every now and then.

MP for custom chapters.
SP for engaging characters and story!

Snakeb1te
12th Mar 10, 11:28 AM
There were NINE loyal legions dammit! Why does the poll only have those same 7?

Imperial Fists please, they are the masters of defence and they are defending a planet.

Failing that, I'd rather they stuck with Blood Ravens, I dont want Relic messing up the lore of existing chapters.

Bowkers
12th Mar 10, 11:36 AM
There were NINE loyal legions dammit! Why does the poll only have those same 7?

If you read the poll title it says 'What Chapter would you like to see in Space Marine? I believe these were chosen, being as they are quite popular. If we were to list all chapters, the poll would be insanely long.

Your post is also confusing. So you say you want Imperial Fists, but in the same breath say you don't want Relic messing up the lore of existing chapters. Um....If my memory serves me correctly, Imperial Fists is an existing chapter :p

Fightingfirst
12th Mar 10, 11:45 AM
@Bowkers: I thought MLBC's post was crystal clear, firstly he was asking why only seven of the founding chapters had been listed rather than 9, and last time I checked Imperial Fists were quite a popular chapter its not as if they are some obscure 2nd founding chapter.
The second part is pretty clear as well, hes sticking to what the OP asked and then says but would prefer they didnt mess with the fluff.

On topic, I personally want the boys in blue... just because they look so much cooler than any other chapter ;)

Logan054
12th Mar 10, 1:03 PM
I think it would be a toss up between flesh tearers and space wolves, while i like blood ravens they already have a dawn of war, from what i have seen in the trailers i really could invision and flesh tearer or space wolf doing all that.

Croaxleigh
12th Mar 10, 1:18 PM
There are 7 options because those are the ones that I thought of when creating the poll. You'll note that "Other" still allows you to choose your favorite chapter, be they Imperial Fists, Space Sharks, or Rainbow Warriors.

Hopit
12th Mar 10, 3:04 PM
There are 7 options because those are the ones that I thought of when creating the poll. You'll note that "Other" still allows you to choose your favorite chapter, be they Imperial Fists, Space Sharks, or Rainbow Warriors. shhh, rainbow warriors don't exist. :cylon:

fellhammer
15th Mar 10, 11:37 AM
I'm biased to the blood angels, but I'd like to see the option to change chapter skins so everyone is a winner....then they could do skins like the Legion of the Dammed

Jonny
15th Mar 10, 2:17 PM
I'd like the Blood Ravens. Relic is fleshing their Chapter out nicely with plenty of secrets, skullduggery and breaking the Codex. It'd be interesting to have Space Marine delve into the lost history of the Chapter while the DoW2 expansions weave the tale of their current predicament.

Karon
15th Mar 10, 4:20 PM
The Iron Hands

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/LostInTheWarp/Team%20North%20America/MMVII/Nathan%20Comanse/0A7.jpg

They're literally the least appreciated by GW and anyone. The best thing they've gotten was some (rather mediocre) books, and a set on the site for a box of tacticals for $50 with mechanical looking bitz for them.

As well, they're much more unique than "We're Space Marines who like to defend stuff hurr" or "We're Space Marines who are the most pure, my butt is by far the cleanest of all the other chapters hurr durr"

tv.boy
16th Mar 10, 1:23 AM
dude, i dont know where you got that from but i just have to say, that is bloody awesome

General Stukov
16th Mar 10, 3:19 AM
Definitely Crimson Fists, what better chapter to fight off orks then them? they specialize in it after all! The w40k universe is so vast and so intensely mapped out that any chapter could be cut and pasted into most of these stories.. It all depends on how free GW is willing to be with their copyrights.

Any well established chapter could potentially be put in and showing relic's record in the past with Gamesworkshop intellectual property they may be willing to put a more established chapter in because if DoW 1 (and for that matter 2) sucked they could just write them out as a destroyed/fallen chapter...

DemonKnight
16th Mar 10, 1:53 PM
I would like to see the Salamanders, they have fought the Orcs on Armageddon in their history and not much is known of them

DeathsHands
16th Mar 10, 3:53 PM
Gonna go with Iron Hands.

Bionics are awesome.

Zug_zug
16th Mar 10, 5:51 PM
If it's Relic's game - then it means Blood Ravens, which is as simple as going to a Mcdonalds and expecting a chicken mcnuggets to be on the menu.

Chicken Mcnuggets. Heh. Now that would be my second pick.

Danustar
16th Mar 10, 10:27 PM
And who doesn't love yellow armor?Indeed.
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6481/angrymarines.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/i/angrymarines.jpg/)
Ok got that outta my system.

I voted for Ultramarines for reasons of first impressions. :smurf:
Ultramarines typically have less obvious "baggage" than a most other chapters.
I think their fluff will allow someone new to 40k to engage the story better without fluffy wierdarse distractions.

Ewokz
17th Mar 10, 12:57 PM
I went with the Ultra's, if they keep the release date fairly close to "Ultramarine" the movie, the renvue can only go up. It makes buissness sense!
On top of that, the various Ultramarine painting topics here and on Warseer have turned me back to the blue-side.

FireWarrior65
17th Mar 10, 1:55 PM
Blood Ravens, since they were created by Relic. Tie them into DoW's stories!

Icehawk
18th Mar 10, 10:10 AM
Based on what little I know about the game, I think that Raven Guard would be a good choice. Since it looks like you're going to be doing a lot of melee fighting with little to no backup in the midst of an insurgency, why not choose a chapter who is well known for both fierce colse quarters combat as well as extended deployment guerilla warfare. To me, they seem like they would be perfect for the job, but most likely we will either wind up seeing one of the more popular chapters or someone new all together.

Goko
18th Mar 10, 1:52 PM
well i'm in favour of a new chapter, like they did with the blood ravens . that or jst stick with the ultramarines just cause that pretty much covers all th nomral ground of the space marine :P

Nouw
19th Mar 10, 12:53 AM
I'm in favour of Blood Angels but I think Imperial Fists should be used.

Adonis
19th Mar 10, 3:40 AM
Why? Why? Why?

Seriously, some of you are still just posting random chapters and offering little to no explanation. Don't be surprised if your post gets deleted for not following instructions.

blahx3
19th Mar 10, 11:18 AM
Blood Ravens may be Relics chapter, but just because they are making a new game doesn't necessarily mean that they should use them, or to use an existing chapter. They could easily take a lesser known chapter and bring them to the fore.

I would love to see what they would do with some of the chapters of the cursed 21st founding. (provided that they had the game take place before the majority of the chapters got destroyed) The only well known chapter is the what is left of the Fire hawks.

Giladas
20th Mar 10, 4:39 PM
Aren't Black Dragons still around as well ?

overlordjebus
20th Mar 10, 6:34 PM
Angry Marines.

Not even in SP, just make it so you can make them in MP.

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Angry_Marines

I advise you read the whole thing, you will never look at Space Marines in the same way.

blahx3
21st Mar 10, 10:42 AM
Aren't Black Dragons still around as well ?

Yes, not absolutely for sure though, Minotaurs and Sons of Antaeus are still around i believe

MorrisB
21st Mar 10, 12:09 PM
I'd vote for Death Watch. The primary enemies are going to be xenos anyway, why not star the experts for exterminating them ?

Snakeb1te
22nd Mar 10, 10:56 AM
Genius tbh. Deathwatch is the way! The only problem with that is Relic would have to give each marine a different chapter badge, which I kinda doubt they would do. But yes Deathwatch are most definitely the best choice for this imo :D

Deathwatch are xenos specialists, and considering the massive amount of wargear available to them (and the varying loadouts seen in gameplay so far) they are the perfect candidates.

Supernaut
22nd Mar 10, 11:18 AM
Deathwatch also gives a flexible story, you can pull them from any chapter (also good for mp) and then weave a story round the events that occur it doesn't limit you as much as sticking to one chapter does.

It gets my thumbs up.

Imperial Dane
23rd Mar 10, 5:07 AM
I vote Ultramarines. Because we need a chapter loyal to the codex !

KOKO
30th Mar 10, 9:29 AM
I´ve been a fan of Black Templar since i saw them.
But i vote for (other) SALAMANDER .
As GamesWorkshop mentioned : they are hard in offense,but unbeatable in defence.
Also they get little impressions,same as White Scars or Raven Guard. ( And green is best :rofl: )

RangerRommiel
30th Mar 10, 2:23 PM
i think deathwatch would be awesome, or even the grey knights since it seems like they're gonna be up against heretics. deathwatch would ultimately be the best choice tho because of it's fluffy flexibility.

failing that i would say they should go with the cosmic space knights (of doom)
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=192376

and failing that they should go with the dark angels for the exact reasons that icehawk (i think) said

Avatar 720
31st Mar 10, 3:03 AM
I was going to say Sallies at first, but Green on Green wouldn't do well for gaming, especially in campaign where the army colours are unchangable without modding in some form, so my next port of call are the Black Dragons; keeping the Sallies as their Founding Chapter but giving a colour scheme that doesn't clash. Only problem here are possible night fighting scenarios, where team-mates might blend into shadows a bit too well, but at least you won't be striking out and hitting a team-mate you mistook for an Ork this time.

Ramrod
31st Mar 10, 4:17 AM
RangerRommiel, where'd you get the idea that you're gonna be up against heretics? The only enemies shown clearly in-game so far have been Orks.

Icehawk
31st Mar 10, 9:57 AM
***LINK REMOVED TO AVOID CONFUSION***

Thanks, Fightingfirst

Fightingfirst
31st Mar 10, 10:01 AM
@Icehawk:Thats not the same game (and has subsequently been abandoned), it has been stated numerous times before. So subsequently, it is pointless drawing any conclusions from that particular gameplay.

my1000ghosts
31st Mar 10, 12:02 PM
BLACK TEMPLARS

For many reasons...I think for one they would allow for a better experience due to their focus on the skills of the individuals

RangerRommiel
31st Mar 10, 12:13 PM
@icehawk: did you post a link to the old space marine trailer where they show you busting through CSM and heretics? because if so that's what i was referring to when i mentioned heretics

Icehawk
31st Mar 10, 1:24 PM
Most likely, yes. It was the supposed "leaked" gameplay footage. Had one of the designers giving a step-by-step intro to the game while slicing his way through a bunch of traitor guardsmen and some CSM towards the end.

Croaxleigh
31st Mar 10, 6:31 PM
Yeah, the gameplay footage with Chaos was the "Space Marine" game that was being worked on by THQ Australia. Its development is unrelated to the game that is being released by Relic.

Xerxes52
2nd Apr 10, 11:18 AM
I think that Relic will use the Blood Ravens. That's their chapter and I would like to see more of their story.

Also I hope Gabriel Angelos (with original DOW voice actor) makes a cameo appearance.

Paladin
6th Apr 10, 12:20 PM
You know... The Black Templars are more than prominent enough to have an explicit poll option :p

Darklight004
6th Apr 10, 8:22 PM
My vote is Salamanders.

Thonbru
12th Apr 10, 4:16 PM
I voted for space wolves simple because they are (kinda) vikings in space and im a hhuge viking fan :P

Ramrod
12th Apr 10, 11:34 PM
There's no "kinda" about it. They are totally Vikings in space =)

Glabro
14th Apr 10, 5:37 AM
Indeed, to the point that Dan Abnett, the author of the new Prospero Burns (among others) book featuring Space Wolves thought they've been represented TOO much as just vikings in space and wanted to go deeper than that, which is cool.

However, I fear the name "Space Marine" might imply something far more "standard" than Space Wolves, a Space Wolf game would have the word "Wolf" in its title.

nathaniak
15th Apr 10, 9:08 AM
Chapter like ultramarines, but with green shoulder pads.

XBloodyMessx
17th Apr 10, 7:45 AM
Obviously Legion of the Damned.

Exalt
18th Apr 10, 1:10 PM
salamanders,black templars, and death watch are all great ideas death watch being that if tyranids are in the game it would explain why your in a small squad running around the world kickin ass and cashing checks which is already developing into a passable storyline for me :idea: but i saw no mentions of the Imperial Fists anywhere and what the fuck? and any number of successor chapters 2nd founding or later would make for a good pick crimson fists celestial Lions storm lords many many more would all work because not much is focused on them or well known oh! and i would love to see the Mortifactors in there as well and the idea of a new chapter was tossed around that sounds good to as long as their not like the blood angels

Wyrdlight
19th Apr 10, 6:30 AM
I would like to see a lesser known chapter, Raptors, Flesh Tearers, White Consuls ect.

Akatsuki13
19th Apr 10, 1:06 PM
I doubt it will be the Black Templars or the Space Wolves. Both have too distinct a look. If it is gonna have multiplayer, they'll want to stick a Chapter that has a more generic look, hence the Ultrasmurf placeholders.

Big Duggy
19th Apr 10, 1:58 PM
I would like to see the Imperial Fists in action. I've been a fan of 'em since I ruined my first SM squad by attempting to paint them. Predictably, I think the Ultramarines will take it. With the movie in the works it makes sense from a marketing tie-in POV. Wow, that souded mega-corporate. I may go shower

mte666
22nd Apr 10, 6:15 PM
easy the Black Templars.

why: because if i can make my guy look like this:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/common/xLargeProductImage.jsp?mWidth=873px&mURL=/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1240760_99060101236_SMBTEmperorschampmain_873x627.jpg&mAlt=The+Emperor%27s+Champion&mHeight=627px

it would be my favorite game ever..
(but i highly doubt i will be able to)

Kolaris
22nd Apr 10, 6:27 PM
I'd love Imperial Fists or Black Templars, would be perfectly satisfied with a homebrew or lesser-known Chapter, and am resigned to the fact that we'll be getting Ultramarines.

aunva
24th Apr 10, 7:54 PM
salamanders, they're just awesomem :cylon: :dj: :cylon:

supremedaisy
28th Apr 10, 12:11 AM
Salamanders. The hero chapter and the chapter well known for ork repulsion. I mean who dun like the smell of napalm in the 41st millenium.

Exalt
3rd May 10, 4:19 PM
theres to many to name or just pick one they should do an army painter like the original dawn of war and since this is a console game xbox live could make a fortune selling different chapter skins -.- i know id buy um the greedy sons o bitches

Akatsuki13
3rd May 10, 8:20 PM
We're talking about in the single player campaign here. In the multiplayer they would logically have the painter, and likely preset Chapter skins.

Flip_Lx
6th May 10, 4:38 PM
Dark Angels because you can have the game that everyone knows all the plot about before release and then easily through in some kick ass bits about hunting the Fallen or Cypher and lets face it who doesn't like Cypher?

Jonte135
9th May 10, 4:13 AM
The Blood Ravens have been in every single game now (correct me if I'm wrong). To be honest I want, althought I hate them, the Ultramarines since they are so common in the table-top game.

Gabriel Angelos
10th May 10, 10:07 PM
It would be cool if these are the Old School Blood Ravens, you know when Gabriel Angelos was younger and stuff. And you fight with Davian Thule aswell and a few new more characters.

Its the perfect waay to expand the Blood Ravens LORE.

Shuma
11th May 10, 3:58 AM
I honestly don't have a clue, i don't think they're using the Blood Ravens because if they were then why in the hell would they even show the ultramarines? They also said that was just for presentation purpose so the main chapter probably isn't the Ultramarines, so what's left?

Black Templars and Dark Angels are no-no since GW probably doesn't want to mess with their story. So i'd vote for the Raven Guard or the Salamanders, i don't know much about them but the Raven Guard always struck me as bad ass with their guerilla warfare, and the Salamanders are just awesome in general, not to mention that green and black scheme is genius.

zipgun
14th May 10, 9:33 AM
"Repent! For tomorrow you die!"

Only when a Dark Angel reaches the rank of Company Master does he truly learn all the secrets of the Dark Angels.

The Dark Angels are considered among the most powerful and secretive of the Loyalist Space Marine Chapters.

For the win. :cool:

retroholyfire
14th May 10, 12:23 PM
Salamanders. They have played a key part in Warhammer 40k fluff yet they are abdly under-represented.

Ramrod
14th May 10, 5:17 PM
i don't think they're using the Blood Ravens because if they were then why in the hell would they even show the ultramarines? They also said that was just for presentation purpose so the main chapter probably isn't the Ultramarines, so what's left?

These two questions contradict each other. You say you don't think it's the Blood Ravens because they show the Ultramarines in the video. Yet you admit to knowing that the Ultramarines are just placeholders and will be replaced. So which is it?

Anyway, if you look back at the original DoW and DoW2 screens, Ultramarines have always been Relic's placeholders.

I am of the belief that the Blood Ravens will be the featured chapter, and that's exactly the way I want it. Relic has created this awesome chapter and I damn well want to see the next piece of their story.

Wartorn
14th May 10, 10:58 PM
In a dream world I would want either the Grey Knights or Deathwatch but since neither of those are likely to ever happen third choice is the Blood Ravens. Just to make things consistent. hell maybe we will finally see the end of Gorgutz 'ed 'unter... I know more wishful thinking.

Hellcobra84
15th May 10, 3:38 AM
Ultramarine probably

Demoncrash
15th May 10, 8:34 AM
My vote goes to the Ultramarines. Just finished reading 2 of the 3 books written on them by Graham McNeill and i would love to see a playable Captain Uriel Ventris or walk through the halls of the the Hortress of Hera.

Faenaris
16th May 10, 5:31 AM
I vote for the Imperial Fists. Why?

1) They are considered to be the most "reliable" and "approachable" of the Chapters. Requests made by the Imperial Guard, Imperial Navy or the Administratum are more easily granted by the Chapter Master. Rogal Dorn, while stubborn and uncompromising when it came to telling the truth, did build up quite an amount of goodwill. This was helpful during the Age of Apostasy.

2) Odd quirks. They feel the need to scrimshaw bones of Fallen Brothers and they regularly "torture" themselves by entering what is called the Pain Gauntlet (or was it Pain Tunic?). Only through surpassing the waves of pain, they reason, can a space marine truely see the light of the Emperor.

3) Siege breakers and defenders without peer. I concede that the Iron Warriors were generally used to do the heavy work while the Fists took the glory, but nonetheless the Fists know how to conduct a siege. Or defend during one. Since the E3 09 trailer showed Orks laying siege to a planet, it would be nice to see the Fists smash the Orks for once.

4) Nothing says "Come get some" like screaming Yellow armour ... and a shrieking Fist of Dorn! At least, the victim will be shrieking. If it survives the Thunderhammer.

5) Veteran soldiers. The youngbloods went over to the Crimson Fists (who got their butts kicked unfortunately) and the fanatics went over to the Black Templars. This left dour, headstrong, stubborn veterans. As such, 4 marines versus a horde of Orks can indeed lead to a victory for the Emperor's Finest.

Flamerol
17th May 10, 4:39 AM
hmm the "other" chapter will win the contest :DDDDDDD

Shuma
17th May 10, 11:13 PM
These two questions contradict each other. You say you don't think it's the Blood Ravens because they show the Ultramarines in the video. Yet you admit to knowing that the Ultramarines are just placeholders and will be replaced. So which is it?

Anyway, if you look back at the original DoW and DoW2 screens, Ultramarines have always been Relic's placeholders.

No they don't contradict each other, my point is that if the Blood Ravens were the main chapter they wouldn't bother using the Ultramarines to show off the game since the blood Raven's are Relic's chapters, and they said the Ultramarines were not the main chapter.

Hence, i don't believe it's either of them. And the first screens of DoW 2 had the Blood Ravens in them, not the ultramarines, same goes for the expansions dunno about DoW1.

NorthernEagle80
18th May 10, 4:35 AM
I'd like to see the Salamanders as they are a genuinely different chapter to the majority of the others. Also their use of forge masters means access to much better arcane tech than the other chapters. Also their history with the orks fits in well.

On that front I'd also be happy to see the Black Templars as they have a lot of history fighting the orks and are quiet close combat orientated.

Ramrod
18th May 10, 7:39 AM
Whoops, Shuma, you're right about the first DoW2 screens, they indeed showed the Blood Ravens.

As for the first Dawn of War, you can see the earliest screenshots here (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/wh40kdawnofwar/images.html?tag=tabs;images&page=7). You can see that for quite a few weeks they were still showing just the Ultramarines. I think there were even a couple of video clips using the Ultramarines.

The reason the first screenshots of the expansions had Blood Ravens in them is because the textures already existed in the core game =P

In any case, Relic did announce back then that the Ultramarines were just placeholders, as they have now. I personally believe it will be the Blood Ravens, but there's still some doubt in my mind, and I think it might be the same one that you tried to detail.

Basically, it's this: why create the placeholder Ultramarine textures if they are going to use the Blood Ravens? They kept the BRs a secret back then because they were a brand-new, homegrown, surprise chapter. This time around, everyone knows them already. You'd think if they had decided "ok, this is gonna be another Blood Ravens story" they wouldn't have bothered making Ultramarine textures that won't even be showing up in the final game.

So, even though I still think (and hope) it'll be the Blood Ravens, I can't really reconcile that belief with what I find to be a really unnecessary and roundabout way of keeping it all a "surprise." I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

Exalt
27th May 10, 12:08 AM
Faeneris makes an excellent point backing up the imperial fist im just saying they where a founding chapter and definately shouldev been in the poll demon crash also makes a point with the ultramrines the books were great and it would be badass to play as ventris...theres so many ways relic could approach this its not even funny ive stated this before yes but a 2nd founding chapter would be cool as well like the heralds of ultramar or mortifactors 2 name a few

Juggernaut246
31st May 10, 5:26 PM
Blood Ravens

Simply because they are relic's chapter and they can pretty much do what they want with them without having to phone GW at every step of the way.

Jyco
1st Jun 10, 7:19 AM
Maybe another unknown/unpopular chapter (like the Blood Ravens once were) would be nice.

This gives Relic enough freedom, but also another kind of look-and-feel than the BR. I doubt using BR in this game would be wise because of the DoW series. Because you need either to fit everything of the storylines together or remove all links alltogether (and what's the point of using BR then?)

ZarX
1st Jun 10, 9:49 PM
Dark Temps or Imperial Fists!!!

Wolfstanus
2nd Jun 10, 1:26 AM
Pretty Marines! (http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pretty_Marines) Failing this

Do Death Watch. They fit better in a story about a small squad with mixed combat abilities. Also allows you to chose your chapter.

Ramrod
3rd Jun 10, 1:09 AM
Oooh, good call with the Deathwatch, Wolfstanus! That would be sweet. In addition to the reasons you gave, their background gels perfectly with protecting a world from the hands of the Orks.

Illiandri2
3rd Jun 10, 5:57 AM
Raven Guard for the following reasons:

1. They work in small groups. They are well known to work independently or in small groups with specialisation in guerilla warfare. It seems we will be running a small squad
with various specialties in the game which follows their Mondus Operati.

2. With the White Scars they are one of the most underrated Chapters Primaris who also have an interesting backstory involving genetic engineering, redemption, mutants and an emo Primarch.

3. They are my WIP army and would love to see them on screen.

Failing that Deathwatch or Adeptus Sororitas Bayonetta style.

NeoSquall
3rd Jun 10, 3:24 PM
I voted for the Dark Angels because, backstory aside (it won't matter ingame, I guess), Marines with capes are awesome.

mte666
3rd Jun 10, 3:42 PM
well clearly this forum only proves that there really should be custom chapter or let us pick from a list of chapters (so long as the black templars are on it.)

CommisarKharn
3rd Jun 10, 6:28 PM
RAVEN GUARD

DeusImperator
12th Jun 10, 8:51 AM
Blood Ravens, or Space Wolves (if it comes out for PC, otherwise my concers are invalid :) ).

cain19822004
14th Jun 10, 3:45 AM
Although I voted for the Blood Angels as I feel their blood lust would suit the Ranged and Melee combat down to the ground.

And Deathwatch would be perfect, which fits in with my idea of, why not have an army painter that works for SP, just have the stock GW colours and Chapter badges, plus the ability to upload images from the consoles webcam to use as chapter badges.

It won't be hard to write a script that makes sure they don't refer to themselves by chapter name.

Gabriel Angelos
16th Jun 10, 9:03 AM
Deathwatch would be the most logical sense, every and each marine being an army of one and the best of the best. However if you ask me I would like to see the Blood Ravens.

Wasnt too happy to see the Ultramarines in the E3.

Darklight004
17th Jun 10, 12:40 PM
I've got respect for the concept of the Space Marines, but I must ask... Why do they always have such flamboyant Armour schemes? Like the Imp Fists for example are 'Have-a-nice-day' yellow. Granted not just anyone can get away with it, and the Space Marines are pretty tough, but come on.... I'm staying with Salamanders as my choice cause green and black is far closer to camouflage than yellow or blue, and because the concept of living in a volcano is so absurd that I love it... Lol

cain19822004
17th Jun 10, 5:53 PM
Space Marines rarely employ any kind of camouflage, in fact, some chapters pride themselves on standing out, they feel they don't need to 'hide' from enemy fire.

I am Sovereign
18th Jun 10, 8:53 AM
I'd give my life, if that's what asked for me to be able to play from Chaos point of view once in a while...
And Alpha Legion (do not confuse with relic's approach on alpha legion), as a masters of subterfuge and deceit, should fit in reeeeealy well. I mean, they hate ultramarines the most and already impersonated them frequently, as well as the other occasional chapters. And they aren't crazy maniacal warp-warped (oops for the tautology :D) brainless mutants. From fluff they're minimally affected by the warp, because they do not reside in the eye of terror, rather they maintain a myriad of hidden bases of operations throughtout the imperium. So, maybe they have plans for the forge-in-question, maybe involving some traitor/mislead mechanicus or whatnot, and had their agent infiltrated the ranks of approaching smurfs, so that he can faint them away from their real goals.
Anyway, I'm absolutely positive that it's a no-go, but still... one can dream, aye? :)

mte666
18th Jun 10, 2:06 PM
well according to the gamesradar article here:
http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/warhammer-40000-space-marine/preview/warhammer-40000-space-marine/a-20090716162316339075/g-20090615142835660084
you will be able to pick our own fraction from a list, so i guess we all sort of win as long as black templars is on that list

kraken
24th Jun 10, 6:51 AM
I would love to see a Renegade chapter take lead in a game... not a Chaos chapter, just a renegade, the Kyle Katarn of the Space Marines!

Croaxleigh
24th Jun 10, 1:24 PM
MTE666: Considering that the article is about a year old and mentions several things as fact which Relic and THQ haven't confirmed, and it says you'll "likely" have the main 9 to choose from, I'd take that article with a grain of salt.

It's possible that they could have a selection available in the campaign, but given how Relic likes to tell a story it's more likely that they'd stick with one and then have multiple options in MP.

TheHolyDarkness
27th Jun 10, 4:09 PM
Oh, I want some ingame option to run around in Blood Raven colors or something. For main storyline purposes, Ultra seems fine.

I'd also like the Space Wolfs to make a cameo. Maybe not fully playable, but cameo hell yes gimme!

~TheHolyDarkness Out~

DEATHSCOPE
1st Jul 10, 1:27 AM
I voted for the Space Wolves. I have read some of the novels based on them from the Black Library so they have grown on me. Plus, they seem like the most cultural, dedicated, and honest chapter there.

Chompster
10th Jul 10, 11:20 PM
i voted Dark Angles cus i LUV me some plasma weapons..
but realizing now that they will never be used along with space wolves and (MAYBE) blood angles.
why? simple. they all have their own somewhat unique look with them all their extra bling here an there. like the dark angles have their robes. and seeing already amazing in-game footage of the models and such even though early in development i doubt they'll model all those extra doohickies just for the chapter.
so i suspect either the Ultramarines or the Blood Ravens to be used being their pretty generic and have a all around look.
i care very little which chapter does get used cus i just want to play the damn game!
*coughs*on PC!*coughs* :nyah:

kraken
11th Jul 10, 4:59 PM
damn *cough* on PC! *cough*, i seem to have caught your cough... :p

Khyron
12th Jul 10, 5:19 AM
Hopefully we should be able to choose different chapters and wargear for Mulitplayer, the more chapters the merrier I say, Blood Ravens (as an ode to DOW),Black Templars and Imperial Fists would be nice.

Hopit
12th Jul 10, 4:28 PM
whats with IF? every 1 is talking about them?

shadowmetzger
20th Jul 10, 12:42 PM
it would be cool to have all the marine chapters in the game maybe as an unlock

Chompster
20th Jul 10, 5:39 PM
i see a lot of "being able to choose ur chapter for online would be cool" and indeed it would..

but wouldnt that be weird? having 4 marines from 4 different chapters fighting together?? now i know they dont focus a lot on the fluff and whatnot it still kinda strange. only way that would be possible if it were the DeathWatch if u ask me

Nightwolf
24th Jul 10, 4:31 PM
I'l say preety much something nobody did. Iron snakes ftw. i like that their iniates have to hunt those enormous sea wryms.

kraken
25th Jul 10, 1:55 AM
Soul Drinkers! Wanted by EVERYBODY!

Nightwolf
25th Jul 10, 6:04 AM
Eh actually i'l play with whatever they give me , since im not fan of space marines. But Bonus Chaos/Ig campaign that would be nice :Loco:

Kronoch
26th Jul 10, 5:50 AM
I would like to see the Howling Griffons, they've always looked like an interesting chapter to me and their appearance in the third soul drinkers novel made me very happy. Also, I LOVE their color scheme.

The thing about the main chapters is that though they have a fleshed out background and many interesting stories and characters, their color schemes and unimaginative and often incredibly boring, and some (like the Raven Guard and Iron Hands) are almost indistinguishable from one another. I'm a big fan of the Blood Ravens and the Crimson Fists because they look fantastic, and I used to like the Ultramarines when they had a blue body, white pads, yellow trims and red guns. The red guns were a bit much though, but with the 4th (?) codex a lot of the space marine chapters have been losing colors, and now most of the color is in their equipment rather than their armor, which is a shame IMO.

If I get to play a space marine, I want him to stand out, damn it! I don't want him to be dark blue, dark grey, black or dark green. I would prefer either a bright color, or a halved/quartered scheme.

turel2
27th Jul 10, 9:26 AM
Blood Angels would be great. Crimson fists and Salamanders would be very fitting fighting orks.

Having the deathwatch in the game would be cool, The player could choose any chapter then.

Any chapter but the Ultramarines as they are quite generic.

I like the Blood Ravens, but I don't want every game to be from thier point of view. The Blood Raven chapter is just a small part of the Warhammer 40k world after all.

shadowmetzger
27th Jul 10, 11:51 AM
what i would like uhhm ok i got it everyone
now that sounds coool!

yanlou
6th Aug 10, 2:43 PM
as much as id like iron hands to be used, it would be better if they moved away from the 1st founding chapters and used an official successor chapter one with little or no fluff say something like Novamarines or Angels of Redemption, at least then they wouldnt have to worry about conflicting fluff and trying to create a totally new chapter
theres also the chance of been able to create your army with an army painter style option like dow 1 and 2, while still have a choice of set chapters

WNxBizzie
6th Aug 10, 3:12 PM
I'd like to see the Emperor's Children pre-heresy.

Or the Luna Wolves.

Hachiman
9th Aug 10, 11:04 AM
If they're considering new chapters, let me crowbar this one (http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Empire_Knights) in..

zipgun
9th Aug 10, 11:52 AM
^^^^This could work. As that would open up any chapter and make us all happy.

"The Empire Knights can be members of any force in the Imperium of mankind, most often however they are members of Space Marine units."

It could work, good find Hachiman.

Belgarath001
9th Aug 10, 12:17 PM
Blood Ravens as I love finding out new backstory information on them!

DannyLee94
11th Aug 10, 2:54 PM
I voted other as i would want to see some chapter customisation as do many others.

However, had i voted one of the listed factions, i would have voted Ultramarines.

Simply because they are balanced and well known; they are the ULTRAMARINES !! The name says it all.

Meester
11th Aug 10, 4:24 PM
Possibly Imperial Fists for the yellow armour or Doom Eagles because of their armour and backstory. To quote the Lexicanum "every single one of them shares a feeling of total loss, grief and desperation." I wouldn't mind the Dark Angels either - you cannot go wrong with green & capes. Iron Snakes & Raptors possibly too because of their backstory.

TheV3ng3ance
16th Aug 10, 12:41 PM
All of them, or the ability to make them what ever colors I want them to be.(Hot pink and neon green) If there is no choice then ANYTHING other than Ultramarines but if I have to then please beakie armor.

Croaxleigh
18th Aug 10, 10:13 AM
From the EuroGamer interview with Danny Bilson of THQ:

But we're differentiating based on our experience of being an Ultramarine.

Nouw
21st Aug 10, 10:52 PM
Blood Angels would fit the CQC.

Their Blood Thirst and Rage and all

corrvan
22nd Aug 10, 2:28 AM
Black templars all the way.

Montka
22nd Aug 10, 8:41 AM
Blood angels with some Death Company color scheme added choice : victory or death !

Hopit
22nd Aug 10, 8:52 AM
Blood angels with some Death Company color scheme added choice : victory or death !with/in death company you have 3 options
1. die
2. win and die
3. loose and die
nice options arent they :D

TheV3ng3ance
22nd Aug 10, 10:22 AM
You mean hopefully die.

Hopit
22nd Aug 10, 10:34 AM
You mean hopefully die. they die, no matter what, if they survive they are shot to the head be their own brethren, because they see them then too dangerous

Montka
22nd Aug 10, 11:44 PM
Surely they'll die : but in multiplayer you die constantly ;)

Actually I don't think you would be able to play something else than an ultramarine in SP since they already said they wanted to go deep in the story like in uncharted, so I highly doubt they'll adapt SP for each first foundation chapter... too big of a deal.

coldplay
23rd Aug 10, 10:54 PM
Hawk Lords FTW!

Purple.



(Disclosure: No, I don't know if we'll have them :))

Croaxleigh
23rd Aug 10, 11:16 PM
Hawk Lords FTW!
You should go up to the Space Marine team and yell this, then walk away like nothing ever happened.

Hopit
26th Aug 10, 6:06 AM
rainbow warriors FTW!

kraken
28th Aug 10, 4:59 PM
Well, i guess all the smurf fans are happy, seeing as in the interviews they are doing lately they have all been talking about the actual character you play, and that he is an ultramarine... :(

Bastonne1
28th Aug 10, 7:55 PM
Everyone should be an Angry Marine in MP.