[campaign spoiler] curious question

[cookie_magic]

Hey guys, I was just wondering about a few months back I see a few people say that Martellus Techmarine is the traitor and he survived the Tyranid attacks, but how did you guys know this? Was it hinted in the campaign or what, because your prediction is true?

[Misiok]

Major Spoilers below.




So, if you don't care much bout the story it seems that depending on what and how your squads are corrupted you'll have one of your members randomly go corrupted/chaos and you'll need to beat them. For me it was Jonah.

If you go 100% pure I heard you don't have anyone corrupted.

Hope this helps.

[cookie_magic]

yes i know that anyone can be traitor, but the techmarine is what I don't understand because how did people 'know' it before the CR is released.

[Croaxleigh]

They guessed, most likely.

[Dux]

Moving to SP discussion.

[Viper114]

No idea before CR released, but as it explains in the actual campaign:

After the Thunderhawk was hit, the pilot steered it to a lesser infested part of the planet, and everyone but Martellus died. He spent a while fixing himself, and was found by Eliphas, who convinced Martellus to join Chaos and work against his former brothers. He went to the nearby Communication Array and then sent an SOS to "help" you and your squads. Kind of sucky, but there's always more Techmarines...

[Osborn]

i just don't get what the tech marine is doing...
so basically, he was helping others to decode his message so everyone else know he is a traitor?

it just doesn't make sense... shouldn't he at least pretending to be failing at decoding?

[Dazz]

As for my self 1st time round i played as fully currupted, and Tarkest was the traitor. Kina a shame really as i could of really done with his firepower for the end boss lol.

[Jonny]

i just don't get what the tech marine is doing...
so basically, he was helping others to decode his message so everyone else know he is a traitor?

it just doesn't make sense... shouldn't he at least pretending to be failing at decoding?

He probably was. Martellus wasn't the only techmarine in the system, Gabriel has plenty on board the Litany of Fury. By taking over the decoding of the traitor's message he could slow down their hunt for the traitor until he'd done everything Eliphas wanted him to do before bolting for Aurelia and leaving the decrypted message as a big "fuck you" to his former Chapter. If he'd have said "Naw, I can't crack that" or spent too long doing it they'd probably have just bounced it up to Gabe's battlebarge for his techs to have a go at.

[deanofantastico]

thats pretty cool i didnt know anyone could be corrupt

but yea fully agre with the tarkus firepower needed against boomer at the end....70mins that mission took me

[Aquila]

and was found by Eliphas, who convinced Martellus to join Chaos and work against his former brothers.
Based on the speed with which he fell it's entirely likely that Eliphas bound a daemon inside him. This could be an alternate explanation as to why he was attempting to decode the message - he was strong enough to battle the daemon for control of his body and to do the job he was ordered to do but not to come 100% clean in admitting he had fallen to Chaos. This is actually a very common plot element in virtually every movie involving unwilling traitors.

Alot of people are somewhat bamboozled by the traitor aspect, but just look at Dawn of War I. If we hadn't seen all those build up seens with Isador, we'd be just as blown away and confused when he turned.

Thing is, Chaos is just like that. And if we had 10 little mini cinemas leading up to the big reveal for Martellus, it would seem perfectly reasonable. But that would ruin the suspense of the hunt for the traitor. So there has to be a trade off between surprise and apparent logic - but just because the logic isn't apparent doesn't mean it isn't there.

[Viper114]

That and the fact that more than one person capable of being the traitor made any such build-up very difficult. With DoW1, Isador was the only one who would become a traitor, but not in this campaign's case. The only way they really could have done it was to make the traitor hidden and ambiguous somehow.

[Escandiel]

Well you have to see it the other Way..

Chaos hides .. but the are Still SPACE MARINES... which means.. they Hide until they are strong enought or have achieved their Goals... then they show up, and kill everyone...


The Techmarine did not have another choice, but helping the Blood Ravens to decode the Signal.. If he would have refused this.. well yeah a SM does not refuse his tasks ..

[lsumd2011]

Plus lets not forget that he sent us into a space hulk as well as sicked us on our own chapter to "properly decode the message". Seems to me that those were perfectly good excuses to attempt to corrupt/kill us.

As to Marty turning, let us not forget that he was stranded, alone, on a planet populated by pissed off fungus and giant omni-devouring space bugs for a year, and he was not even mobile for several months. That can be pretty stressful mentally and Chaos thrives on corrupting those in weakened states. And if nothing else if could like Aquila said, Marty could have been forcibly corrupted. I mean if Chaos could turn Horus, I'm pretty sure a paraplegic cogboy didn't really stand much of a chance.