Favorite Marine Chapter

[Wolfma[N]]

So whats your favorite Space Marines Chapter!?

[blood_angel]

Guess who I voted for.

[CodyLamp]

Should Chaos Space Marines be up there? I mean technically they are Space Marines :D

[Wolfma[N]]

sure why not :rolleyes:

[Vijil]

Iron Hands.

[starrider]

hm, these guys arent really a separate chapter, but i like the fallen.

and if i have to chose a real chapter......well then that makes it harder..............

then ill go with the pre-heresey iron warriors.

[TS_ahriman]

Legion of the damned (previously known as Firehawks).

[DarthFelth]

Flesh Tearers then 2nd comes space wolves

[Wirlwind]

Chaos Iron Warriors! Die Imperial Scum! :P

[CodyLamp]

Originally posted by Wirlwind
Chaos Iron Warriors! Die Imperial Scum! :P
Awww Hell YEAH!!:agree:

[Wolfma[N]]

lol you guys are crazy =0

[CodyLamp]

Originally posted by Wolfma[N]
lol you guys are crazy =0
I take it you dont like the Chaos Space Marines?

[Wolfma[N]]

nope. :yippee:

[CodyLamp]

How Come?

[Tranj]

I vote Blood Ravens...

[Vijil]

Im betting they'll be black with red shoulder pad details.

[H.B.M.C.]

Well, I voted for the:

Ultramarines!

BYE

[Wolfma[N]]

Who voted for Black Templars... 143 BT

[Vijil]

I have a 3500 point Iron Warriors army fully painted and converted. I should post a pic of it sometime.

[Anthonace]

Iron Hands are my favorite
coming second are grey knights
(next time put all the first founding chapters up not just a tiny few)

[Wolfma[N]]

I swear we has some Daemon Hunter fans somewhere on these boards... :howdy:

[Abaddon]

the Legion of the Dammed, and dark angels, but i really have to say the IRON WARRIORS!! are my favourite, sorry the Dark path is far more fun than trying to protect a dying imperium

[Form4n]

black templar woot woot

[Deadly_Snake588]

Imperial fists
"FOR THE EMPEROR!!"
Heck they are the ones protecting the great and holy emporer!

[DarthFelth]

you know imperial fist, when i see the colour of erm, its makes me think of them safty coats your meant to wear if you cycle about at night, you know them yello reflective ones, i just cant help thinknig thats what theye wearing everytime i hear the name..

[Gostick]

Soul Drinkers ! :)

After reading the novels about them i jusy loved them so i had to get myself an army of them..... now i got them in 40k and Epic !!

[DemonTalons]

They all suck. Except for the Dark Angels.

[Vijil]

The dark angels have good fluff, and they are hard to break... unless you're iron warriors and they refuse to run from your 4 Ordnances, in which case they all die very fast. They do have good fluff though, especially with the fallen. I know a guy here who got so sick of all the dark angels armies running around that he made an fallen army, using the same colours and symbols but with daemons and a defiler and stuff. Night Lords rules I think. Twas very cool, and he'd converted the rhinos so they were R/C and could be driven around the table remotely, which was like wtf? when the opposition sees his tanks move by themselves. Very cool.

[Uzgah]

Legionas Custodias

The real space marines....

[DarthFelth]

you know i never really read much about soul drinkers, wernt they a sucessor to the blood angels (cant be bothered to look)

And on that night lords, Cool dude, but i do think the guy coul gain extra movement when your not looking ;)

[Megas Menandros]

Check sig!

[Mephiston]

Blood Angels forever!

[No Surrender]

I don't like the BA, mainly because I think they're a bunch of raving lunitics who obsess themselves in an outdated form of combat. They're pretty cheesy gamewise too.

[Wolfma[N]]

Out of all the chapters, I think the Black Templars are the coolest...

[Richtofen]

I play almost exclusively WFB because personally I think the 40k rules suck the wang but the fluff is all good. I have a Tau army but I want to make a cool sieging SM army. With vindicators, whirlwinds, preds, lots of heavy support and stuff. There will be 2 hth weapons in the entire army and they will be carried by my 2 captains, as badges of office, who direct the fire. I have scouts which are basically the guys who spot for the artillary. I'm thinking a codex grey colour scheme. I also want to make a sieging guard army to go with them! So that marine chapter would be my fav:).
But like like both Black Templars and Dark Angels because I used to play both of them.

[Tribunal]

I'm doing prelim work on a Tau force, but no Kroot at all. I want to do something a bit different with them, who knows, maybe a mechanized Force or one that plays 'hide and seek.'

As for fave Sm chapter, with the new codex coming out, I think IF the changes being made to the UM armor is done that they will be right up there. Why? They are one of the oldest, they have seen countless battles, they have all of their honor, and they have thousands of years of hostory.

You should see some of their armor, very roman in design, with the horse hair and everything. Quality all around. They just needed a bit of a stylistic change, one that went with their background, and I think that this gives them the edge that they were always missing. Here's hoping it goes through!

[Daenyathos]

Soul Drinkers rule!

How can anyone prefer a different chapter when they could go for mutated rebels that drop from the sky and pound yo sorry ass (as in beating them up).

[RogueFox]

Ultramarines. This dates back to playing Space Crusade on my Atari ST. :Pirate:

[Civik]

well dur... wonder which chapter I would vote for.

[Wolfma[N]]

lol i have never heard of the soul drinkers... so many random chapters out there...

[BirdyNumNum]

ugh i'm not sure what they're called, i think it's Crimson Fists or something, but they have the best character; Captain Cortez!!!

[Wolfma[N]]

ya crimson fists sound about right.

[Thandrim]

I hate to vote for Other. Since my favorite chapter was actually a homegrown one from over a decade ago. Had a friend of mine use his artistic skills to make the Batmarines. Black with the classic Batman symbol on chests and shoulder pads. Best part about them was that ALL the marines had long flowing black capes.

They looked great but were bloody hard to play with given that their capes would usually dominate space around them.

[dewolfe]

lol i have never heard of the soul drinkers... so many random chapters out there...

The Soul Drinkers are a chapter featured in the novels "Soul Drinker (http://www.blacklibrary.com/bookdetail.asp?id=174) " and "The Bleeding Chalise (http://www.blacklibrary.com/bookdetail.asp?id=265) " by Ben Counter. They are two of the better books produced by the Black Library (http://www.blacklibrary.com/fiction.html) and feature a very good plot and some of my favourite characters of all time (two cheers for Tellos).


http://www.rpgunited.com/picture/warh2/0009.jpg

[Wolfma[N]]

Originally posted by dewolfe


The Soul Drinkers are a chapter featured in the novels "Soul Drinker (http://www.blacklibrary.com/bookdetail.asp?id=174) " and "The Bleeding Chalise (http://www.blacklibrary.com/bookdetail.asp?id=265) " by Ben Counter. They are two of the better books produced by the Black Library (http://www.blacklibrary.com/fiction.html) and feature a very good plot and some of my favourite characters of all time (two cheers for Tellos).


http://www.rpgunited.com/picture/warh2/0009.jpg

oh :talk:

[Anthonace]

Originally posted by Richtofen
I play almost exclusively WFB because personally I think the 40k rules suck the wang but the fluff is all good. I have a Tau army but I want to make a cool sieging SM army. With vindicators, whirlwinds, preds, lots of heavy support and stuff. There will be 2 hth weapons in the entire army and they will be carried by my 2 captains, as badges of office, who direct the fire. I have scouts which are basically the guys who spot for the artillary. I'm thinking a codex grey colour scheme. I also want to make a sieging guard army to go with them! So that marine chapter would be my fav:).
But like like both Black Templars and Dark Angels because I used to play both of them.

have a look through some of the fluff and index astares articles before you rush into making your own
basically find a pre existing chapter that fits what you want

[Defunk203]

Fleshtearers, ultras then Iron hands

[Cortanus]

Why does everyone forget the Salamanders?

[ankara halla]

I don't like the BA, mainly because I think they're a bunch of raving lunitics who obsess themselves in an outdated form of combat. They're pretty cheesy gamewise too.


Blame 3rd ed.
The Blood Angels were meant to be the epitome of "fallen from grace", noble spirited and of pure hearth yet plagued by a curse from beyound the grave. A terrible curse against which they struggle on a daily basis and thus become stronger and of purer soul becouse of the tempering their spirits must endure if they are to be saved from damnation.

There is no beating the Blood Angles fluff, it's so much above the other Chapters' it's not even funny :)


As to cheesy, they are no more broken than a dozen other lists. Sure, pre-TVR the BA rush was pretty insane but that's fixed now.
Also, I don't have a single rhino in my 4500pts. BA army :cool:

[Shakrith]

Oh speaking of Blood Angels, any tips on how to do a non-assault BA army? I'm starting my own chapter, I like shooting more than CC but I also like the BA libarians, ball etc. so how would I go about making a non-assault army from them?

[Cortanus]

With great difficulty. If I remember correctly, all Blood Angels have to test every turn to see if they run at the enemy, meaning your nicely placed tactical squad or devastator squad may end up making a break for combat. Be nice and challenging to use though.

[ankara halla]

Well, while it's next to impossible to make a really competitive shooty BA army you can have a fairly balanced all-rounder list. What's most often overlooked in a BA list that these guys are first and foremost marines with all the abilities and equpment of marines (well, exception for the BA scout squads and relocating of dreads to hvy siupport but you get the drift).

A Chaplain (or a sanguinary high priest) is a must though in any list. DC is one of the best assault units in the game and should be taken advantage of no matter the emphasis of your army.

As to shooty side, I'd take dreads and possibly a predator (if the rumors concerning the new vehicle rules in the 4th ed. are true then the Baal variant will become quite an interesting choise as it can fire all of it's weapons no matter the amount of it's movement) and Land Speeders. Possibly even attack bikes as these can be quite effective against light infantry.

Also, taking lots of tac squads is a good idea. First of all it'll give you a bigger DC but also if one or two of them fail their test it won't (or depending on placement, shouldn't) make all that big of a difference. Personally I rarely take any hvy weapons in my tac squads as I like to keep my Angels moving and relocating thru most games anyway.

[Shakrith]

speaking of speeders i am focussing on having squadrons of them for the cityfight games i usually play

[Wolfma[N]]

bah, i hate speeders...

[fenris914]

I vote for wolves, but wonder why so many voted for those dress wearing girls of Lion El'Jonson

[Falcrum]

Oh speaking of Blood Angels, any tips on how to do a non-assault BA army? I'm starting my own chapter, I like shooting more than CC but I also like the BA libarians, ball etc. so how would I go about making a non-assault army from them?

Uh, u might as well just play a regular Space Marine army painted in BA colours. Blood Angels are definitely not a shooty army, although firepower is an almost necessary support for assaults.

[deggy]

Blood Angels are definitely not a shooty army...

EVERY marine army is shooty! It's not like BA's loose the BS 4 in favour of WS 5.

It's the same problem I had with my Deathguard, I thought they were this strong assault force that could withstand alot of enemy flak, but it wasn't until I started treating their shooting seriously that I started to win games. You're paying SO many points for each marine, compared to other armies, and its a damn shame if you don't take advantage of all the skills you're purchasing.
One of the guys here that plays World Eaters. It's hard to ensure that'll you'll get into CC if you shoot, but if you don't shoot, you might not fair that well in CC. That's the real challenge of an assault oriented, marine base army. I don't envy you lot.

I like the Fallen the most of all the marine chapters... so I guess that means I like the Dark Angels. But I play Deathguard, the most pestilent bunch.

[Anthonace]

i'm sure at least some of you here have seen the 40k creature rules in chapter approved
so
i'm putting a giant lizard in my iron hands army

[Elof]

I just like balance and ive been playing ultramarines for years since second edition of 40k so its sort of sentimental

[starrider]

oh god, how culd i forget.

aside from the fallen (the fallen, not the dark angels. there is a differnce!)

the best chapter ever is the deathwatch!

[Wolfma[N]]

Come on guys, you know the Black Templars are the best :buddies:

[Dazz]

Demon Hunters, nothing like their Terminators :)

[ankara halla]

Deathwatch isn't a chapter and neither are Demon Hunters. Grey Knights are though.

[/nit picking]

:)

[Dazz]

[/nit picking]
Theres always one ;)

[Jaeger]

The Red Scorpions, GW should really bring those guys back assuming they didn't convert to chaos.

[Gorechild]

Chaos in general..
Khornate themed preferebly..
Berzerkers..

[starrider]

Deathwatch isn't a chapter and neither are Demon Hunters. Grey Knights are though.

[/nit picking]

:)


deathwatch are the Ordo Xenos equilvilent of the grey knights. they are one of the chapters millitant.

[paulsoo]

Hmm.. funny thing just happend. Tried to vote, but can't, don't remember voting though.. Hmm..

Sorry to ask but, what's special about Ultra Marines? Besides the whole history with the 'Nids and stuff.. tabletop gameplay wise?
Love Gulliman's(sp?) winter gloves though.. :damnu:

[ankara halla]

Theres always one ;)

Hey, someone had to say it... :D
Well, not really but it was the fluffhead in me which took over for a second there. :)


deathwatch are the Ordo Xenos equilvilent of the grey knights. they are one of the chapters millitant.

No they are not. Grey Knights are an established Chapter of the second founding who recruit and train their own warriors (just like any other chapter).
The Deathwatch on the otherhand do not recruit teenagers and turn them into lean mean killing machines. The members of the Deathwatch are veteran battle brothers trained by the Inqusition from all chapters (Blood Angels, Space Wolfs, Slamanders... etc. etc. etc.). These marines are essentially "rented out" to Deathwatch kill teams but eventually return to their own chapter to spread knowledge on how to best fight xenos scum.

[starrider]

then someone fudged up in the eisenhorn trilogy, and yes i know how the deathwatch works.

but in the xenos, the first book of the eisnhorn trilogy, he talks about seeing a deathwatch captain, "....one of the chapters millitant, asssigned to ordo xenos blah blah, like the grey nights of the ordo malleus....." not an exact quote but sitll. if thats wrong info then i concede to defeat.

[ankara halla]

Well, the Deathwatch are the fighting arm of the Alienhunters, so that's certainly true.
Also, the Deathwatch has Captains, Librarians, etc. etc. in their ranks too and referring to a (for example Ultramarine) Captain who's "commisioned" (or something) to DW as a DW Captain isn't really an issue either.

I guess my point is that DW isn't a Marine Chapter per se like the other Chapters are with their own recruits and traditions and whatnot but rather a collection of the very elite from the best troops the Imperium has to offer.

[Marneus Calgar]

Wow, considering the Ultramarine bashing that was going on not so long back when the screens were released we seem to be doing OK. :)

[Dimension]

I suspect thats because true space marine haters wouldn't post in this thread ;)

[Uzgah]

I've always wondered how Death Watch squads opperate so efficantly. Given that certain Marine chapters hate each other. IE those of the Ultramarine-type, follow the book to the letter, chapters; to those like the Space Wolves-type, serve the Emporer our way, not yours.

Do you think that theres an overridding sense of duty that stops 'em braining each other?

[Dimension]

there should be. also, i suspect that those with completely different doctrines aren't put into the same squad.

[Uzgah]

Perhaps... must be quite boring though I s'pose. Still think a Ultramarine and a Space Wolf would get on famously.
UM: "For the Emperor!"
SW: "For the Emperor and for Russ!"
UM: "Excuse me... but we can ony battle cry for the Emperor, our Primarch wrote that down eons ago!"
SW: "Yeah... Well I got cool looking fangs!"
UM: "Eeurrghh, you're spitting on my armour! Its cos of those bloodyfangs!"
SW: "Quiet you!"
scuffle! slap! bash! zap! pow! and other Batman related fight sound-bites

=]

[DarthFelth]

you know id love to see a deathwatch squad made up off space wolves and dark angels ;)

[starrider]

Well, the Deathwatch are the fighting arm of the Alienhunters, so that's certainly true.
Also, the Deathwatch has Captains, Librarians, etc. etc. in their ranks too and referring to a (for example Ultramarine) Captain who's "commisioned" (or something) to DW as a DW Captain isn't really an issue either.

I guess my point is that DW isn't a Marine Chapter per se like the other Chapters are with their own recruits and traditions and whatnot but rather a collection of the very elite from the best troops the Imperium has to offer.


then they're a.......super chapter! only the best!

[Elof]

Imperial Fists

Just because i love the pain glove

[Wolfma[N]]

lol super chapter... you know!

[Uzgah]

The super chapter? Then you must mean Legionas Custodias.
Noone seemed to pick on these guys when I mentioned them before. These were THE marines.
The Emperors personal bodyguards during the Great Crusades and the Heresy. Genetically modified to be more powerful than normal marines, these guys were increible.
During the Heresy they were even sent to conflicts around the galaxy to support the already embattled marines. Plus they have cool power armour that looks nothing like what any of the other chapters wore/wear.
I think they still guard the Throne room now.. Might be wrong.
In a game sense, imagine that your basic trooper has the same stat line as a Veteran Captain, then increase for the higher ranks :o

[ankara halla]

Must... fight... the fluffnerd... inside... of me...
*fails*

Well, to get technical the Adeptus Custodes is the Emperors inner guard (servants who attend to his needs, recive his directions, stuff like that) of which the Legiones Custodes are the fighting men (and yes, they are awesome... fluffwise they'd beat the living crap out of GK terminators) but they however are not marines any more than they are a Chapter.

Adeptus Astartes is the Imperial organization which encompasses the Marine fleets, support staff and everything of which the Legiones Astartes are the Space Marine Chapters, the elite fighting forces of the imperium.

[Uzgah]

::grins::
I still call 'em a chapter. They existed before, during, after the Heresy. Maybe they aren't an 'offical' Adeptus Astartes chapter, but I call 'em one =]
That and we spell it differently.
::grins some more::
At least someone knew who the hell I was on about.

[Ulfr]

Space wolves all the way.

[Imperial Fist]

Actually, the Legiones Custodes are Space Marines. If you play the Horus Heresy CCG (Which I believe is the most current fluff) then it does state that they are Space Marines, just more of the Archtypical kind. They have dreads and terminators and all that cool stuff. It also says that they do take there geneseed from the Emperor himself, so yeah, they are freakn bad! It is my opinion that the Grey Knights are a second founding chapter from them, hence they take there geneseed from him also.

[JumpPackBoy!]

Thousand Sons! ALL IS DUST! AHRIMAN!!! DEATH TO THE EMPEROR DEATH TO THE IMPERIUM OF MAN!

[porobot]

For emperors love!! ultramarines more votes then bloodangels!!!

BLACK RAGE IS getting me!!!!

may Chaplain LEMARTES guide me!!

[Sphincter]

In case u were wondering (I play warhammer) there are 67 space marine chapters, you missed a common one, aurora chapter, they are my pick

[Uzgah]

Gee only 67 huh? Well I seem to remember there being hundreds if not thousands of chapters.
I could be wrong.... but, no offence, I doubt I'm wrong about that.

Plus go go Legiones Custodes! WOO

[Sphincter]

sry i was mistaken, my friend a space marine player, tell me there are around athousand :matrix:

[Dimension]

if there are so many chapters around, how come only so few appear in the fluff? why don't we hear of heroic actions by other chapters?

[Elof]

1000 chapters with a suposed 1mill sm under arms , not acurate with most only having 8 full companies but whos counting

as for not knowing about them all , well it leaves room for players to make there own up and get involved , and it would be watering down the interesting ones they push , if you notice theres a few core chapters they push each release then they bring a few new ones in for a version of the game then let them go

ultramarines as a standard template and a few to show how you can make your sm interesting with out going to far out side the standard , ie spacewolves,bloodangels and darkangels and then mention there progenitors so you can even use there fluff to make your own chapter


leaves lots of room for the game to grow and them to add new instersting sm chapters that no one has heard about as well, lol as well as leaving room for people making games to come up with there own chapters :talk:

[Crested_Ones]

its spelled Daemon Hunters heh... they look pure awesome, with that eagle and the new sleek helmets. one of the best looking armies out there to date I say!

[Cortanus]

if there are so many chapters around, how come only so few appear in the fluff? why don't we hear of heroic actions by other chapters?

You never hear about all the Guard regiments either.

[Sphincter]

ya you do, u just need to read up, Im the Imperial Guard and i hear alot about other compainies and planets rather than just the Cadian, well u dont hear much about the other other places but okay fine ur right :!:

[Uzgah]

One of the most popular regiments in Rogue Trader was the Necromunda 46th 'Spiders'.
(at least i think they were the 46th maybe it was the 47th, seem to remember the "lucky 7's" alot...anyhoo). Its what the original plastic weren't meant to represent. However, they got around everyone playing the 'Spiders' by saying that the uniform of the IG was... uniform. All regiemnts wore the same.
Then with 40K 2ndEd they introduced all the 'new' regiments with their distinct styles of dress. Now they've kinda gone back to the 'uniform' IG. Most people use the Cadian models cos they are cheaper and plastic. Choose a new colour scheme and regiment name.. off you go.
Its all nostaglic I tells ya. ::sighs::

[GreatSamaman]

Go Dark Angels...(and no were not heretics...)

[Xenocide]

I had some rogue trader era IG models (with the funny x-wing pilot helmets) painted by a friends older brother and from what I recall the spider and lucky 7s were two different regiments both from necromunda

[DarthFelth]

ahh dark angels are just as bad as the black legion...

[TacticalVirus]

bah, the black templars will own you! if only I had money :(

[DarthFelth]

yeah i know that feeling brov

[vic 1]

so after all this time and biching about the smurf's being in to meny GW games guess who won the pole . Guess it just go's to show that if u go for the middle ground u will win every time :)

[Oblivion]

There is a site which i trying to get every chapter listed. i cant find it right now but it had something along the lines of 500 chapters listed. They were taken from GW sources and ppls home-grown chapters

[roodie]

http://www.ironhands.com/chapters.htm

I like that page.

[Ramrod]

i like pretty much all the progenitor chapters, cept the white scars, but if i had to pick one, ultra all the way. my dad collects them :bandit:

[Triceron]

Can't say i'm much of a SM fan, but I'd say the Black Templar are pretty awesome. BTW, what's the deal with the Black Templar, they're not a part of the first 20 chapters, so what's their backstory?

[Char Blackmale]

Iron warriors are cool gamewise and look pretty cool, but by far the best fluffwise are the NIGHT LORDS. How can you not love this quote: "Your presence does not surprise me Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. Death is nothing compared to vindication." -Primarch Night Haunter.

Badass, or badass?
Badass.

[IWAssassin]

Id have to say Ultramarines. The Angels of Death are allright, as are Space Puppies, but I for one like it when the Chapters actually FOLLOW their Holy writ. I personally find it an atrocity that GW has given all the first founding and several second founding chapters special rules that directly go against the Codex Astartes. In my mind the worst offender are the Black Templars... personal glory above the good of the Empire. Not to mention they have about 4 times the numbers that a Chapter is allowed to have. Sure the Space Puppies may be mutants, but they dont put their own glory before the mission like the Templars do - the worst of Heretics.

[Uzgah]

In response to

the Black Templar, they're not a part of the first 20 chapters, so what's their backstory?
the Black Templars are a second founding chapter. Cretedafter the Horus Heresy when the large Legions were subdivided into the chapters of the second founding. The Black Templars are of the Imperial Fist stock.
I bet Rogal Dorn is real proud of them too. =]

[Triceron]

Oh, if in the case of Chaos Space Marines, I would definately say the Death Guard. The armies of nurgle have the most interesting characters of the chaos bunch IMO.

[IWAssassin]

They ARE Chaos (: The single group where most of the daemonic mutations make sense. CSM Definately Nurgle is the best and that means the Death Guard.

[warseer]

it has to be darkangels as my fav there cloaked models,tt rules,and there fluff is to cool to resist.
i wonder why so little people have voted for them.

[Agix]

if there are 111 viewers (when i came in)
and 131 voters
does that mean 20 blind voters,
or WTF?
just thought i'd point out that lil' discrepancy

~A

[GreatSamaman]

It's because this thread was made 7 months ago...

God you people must be freaking bored out of your skulls to bump a thread this freaking old...

Go play Dawn of War or something. :D

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