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Vaarok
6th Mar 02, 1:23 PM
What, in your opinion, are the most classic films?

I man, a truly great, adventurous, good movie.

A movie that synergizes and makes a coherent stylistic and plot-driven experience.

Not "omfg, the Matrix! it had those flying spinning shooting mad kung-fu and it was 133t!"



My votes go for Indiana Jones (Crusade and Ark), Star Wars 4-6, and Aliens.

Ancilliary note of The Shadow (ever see? Great movie, Dune, Star Trek First Contact, and Predator.

Those were excellent movies without qualification.

Harmanoff
6th Mar 02, 1:48 PM
What determines a classic movie to me is the feel i got from it when i saw it. So therefor my extremely subjective opinion of the matter is that Star Wars IV is the greatest movie of all.

I know of many that probably would have taken the medal but the thing is, i saw Star Wars first. It is the first full movie i remember. I was like 6 or so, had only watched cartoon until then. My jaw dropped and my eyes could've fallen out of my head.

Walker
6th Mar 02, 2:34 PM
This thread is a license to flame, because the subject matter is so enormously subjective. Nevertheless, I fully expect people to arrive in droves and list much the same calibers of films as Vaarok. In anticipation of which, I won't offer my opinions.

eadipus
6th Mar 02, 2:42 PM
films that i regard as classic are:
pulp fiction
kids
the great escape

there are more, but i can't think of them right now. mostly i watch really cheesy films though, like Medieval Dead - Army of Darkness and really poor action films.

Rent-a-Zilla
6th Mar 02, 3:39 PM
Hmm.. I'm a bit of a film snob too, but I still think that Raiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars, and Aliens are good films (preferred Alien though).

Films opinions are so subjective. I love Excalibur to bits, but loads of people hate it (just as I hate anything to do with Tarantino [the guy is a tosser]).

Nothing beats seeing a film for the first time and being touched by it - its a very personal thing, and impossible to describe to (or impose on) other people.

Thorn
6th Mar 02, 4:11 PM
The Hunt for Red October...
Connery si teh roxor...

TheBob
6th Mar 02, 4:46 PM
I think the Matrix set a precident becuase all the movies now are trying to copy it. It's destined to become a classic, abd be remade 1000 times :/ 2001: A Space Odessy was the greatest film I have ever seen and maybe ever made, IMHO

Tronno
6th Mar 02, 5:04 PM
I, too would have mentioned The Great Escape, but eadipus already took it...:hmm:

The Matrix is not a classic. It had some nice-looking original SFX, but its story wasn't at all very complicated/interesting and memorable. And the plot makes a movie, not the graphi...uhh...special effects.

TheBob
6th Mar 02, 5:13 PM
Every action movie that comes out now copies it in some form or another. It left it's mark.

BunsenHoneydew
6th Mar 02, 5:21 PM
A Clockwork Orange

Blazing Saddles

Enter The Dragon

Part of my definition of a classic film involves how old the film is.
'The Matrix' is too recent to fit my definition, although it will probably
become considered a classic.

Bunsen

zenogias
6th Mar 02, 7:18 PM
Classic movies? Well, IMO:

Wings of Honneamise, Grave of the Fireflies (made me feel empty, in a good way), Thin Red Line, The Dark Crystal, Full Metal Jacket, and Saving Private Ryan.

They're classic to me because they all influenced me in some way (that's an abbreviated list, BTW).

As for the Matrix -- the only thing is had going for it was special effects. Otherwise is was a Hong Kong action flick with a token plot and an obscene budget. Oh, and I'm so sick of bullet trails and camera roting around people it's not funny.

Imitation does not make something a classic. Case in point:

Wasssssup!
All your base are belong to us
L33T Speak

Soulblighter
6th Mar 02, 8:02 PM
Blade Runner: A truly brilliant piece of sci fi.

Alien: Brought on a plethora of clones that never measured up.

Aliens: Probably one of the best sequels i have ever seen to date.

Saving Private Ryan: Established a new level of realism in the 'war movie' genre.

Black Hawk Down: 2002's version of SPR.

LOTR: I think it is a classic because it proved that books can be brought to the big screen. Movies such as Jurassic Park (1,2) and Relic were insults to the books that they came from.

There are ton of others... but i dont feel the need to list them. These are just the ones that sort of stuck out in my mind over the years or in regards to the last two.. months.


soul.

edit: grammar

Rodimus
6th Mar 02, 11:24 PM
unlike SPR, i didn't care enough about the people in Black Hawk Down to make the movie a classic imho

i don't know, mebbe it's because they all looked and talked the same

molo
6th Mar 02, 11:29 PM
Isn't that the point of the military? That they look and act like a cohesive unit? =/

Classic movies? Casablanca, The Usual Suspects, A Bridge Too Far. Not much in recent memory deserves to be called a classic imo.

Rodimus
6th Mar 02, 11:31 PM
that doesn't mean they lose individual personality traits

ex.....Wade from spr had more personality than all of the actors/models in black hawk down....


therefore to me, Wade's death after taking out the machine gun nest was much much more effective in conveying what spielberg wanted to say to me than that soldier whose name that i can't even remeber that died at the end of BHD who that other "nameless" soldier was trying to save.....

frstkor13
6th Mar 02, 11:42 PM
a classic for me is defined by: any movie that i actually go 'omg you have never seen that?! but you've heard about it right?!' when someone says they haven't seen it when I have. It's also a movie that has come out during my life time. These are classics 'to me', even though "Gone with the Wind" is obviously a classic.

Star Wars

Indiana Jones

Star Trek

Alien - Aliens

Terminator 1 and 2

Die Hard

Last of the Mohicans

Twister

The Insider

Shawshank Redemption

The Abyss

The Frst Element

Adventures in Babysitting

The Sixth Sense

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon

The Right Stuff

Backdraft

Apollo 13

Braveheart

The Matrix

Top Gun

Dune

The Green Mile

Blade Runner

Romancing the Stone

As you can see I have a lot of movies that I consider 'classics'. :|

Rodimus
6th Mar 02, 11:49 PM
The First Element ? :p

visually, a very cool movie indeed

that is all :)

molo
7th Mar 02, 12:19 AM
ps it's Fifth Element. And it's actually a decent movie, not just special effects wise, if you get past some of the cheesy love part of the plot. The director wrote it at age 15, if I recall.

ceejayoz
7th Mar 02, 12:23 AM
Fifth Element rocked =)

Mac_Bug
7th Mar 02, 12:30 AM
Adventures in Babysitting

Sounds like pr0n to me

frstkor13
7th Mar 02, 12:43 AM
ok, I corrected my typo.

Vaarok
7th Mar 02, 8:26 AM
Though of three more:

FMJ (already mentioned)
Red Sonja/Conan series (great)
Willow (don't know why)


maybe Princes Bride too?

molo
7th Mar 02, 5:37 PM
Run Lola Run (or Lola Rennt as it was originally released in Germany) is a great film.

TheBob
8th Mar 02, 4:53 PM
Has anyone seen Being There?

Liberator
9th Mar 02, 1:35 AM
I just started a thread like this over at Modfactory. A major portion of what makes a film "Classic" is the Wow factor. If you can watch a film and come out of the theatre in a state of amazement then it will probably be a "Classic", hence all the mentions of "The Matrix" in this thread.

Another type of "Classic" is one that is just enjoyable because it is.

Forbidden Planet
Them
The first Planet of the Apes
Aliens
Robocop
2001: A Space Odyessy