Music!

[Triceron]

Music's going to be huge part in making this game a whole experience. I think the game will feature an epic soundtrack, like HW and HW2. But I'm still curious as to what you'd personally like to hear in the game. Techno? Rock? Orchestrated?

Personally I could go for a nice epic soundtrack for something like the Space Marines. They just have that whole grand feel to them. Something like the Medal of Honour and Battlefield 1942 soundtracks would sort of be fitting in my opinion. The Orks would call for Rock, like a grundgy, punk or industrial sound. Now for Chaos I can totally imagine putting on something like heavy metal, something dark and moody like Metallica, Tool and Rammstein. What better way to capture that dark feel of chaos?

[Alendor]

chaos gate had a soundtrack that just fit perfectly for warhammer 40k, they should have similar stuff with dow

[superkoekje]

yea real gothis like music would realy fit in

[superkoekje]

gothic not gothis sry

[|)ion-Be[Z]eRkR]

Some techno would be nice but heavy stuff

[mauno]

Music in Dune 2 captured the feeling of the game past then. I wish DoW's music will have the same effect, and the music blends from epic industrial ambience melodies to the dark techno or electro tracks whenever there is lots of action. Some of the Wh40k soundtracks of Art of Perception capture the feeling of the 40k's world and armies that the music represents (and some of them fail, as the tracks need to work on the dancefloor as well). My favourites that represent the style I'd like to hear in the game are:

The Orks (AOP-06):
Jimi Tenor / Blood on Borstch

The Space Marines (AOP-09):
John Starlight / Ultimate Human Fighting Machine
Kitbuilders / Dark Angels

You can listen the tracks at: http://www.art-of-perception.com/

[gozo]

chaos gate had a soundtrack that just fit perfectly for warhammer 40k, they should have similar stuff with dow

I agree 100%. Chaos Gate had awesome music. Do you happen to know who did it? Or where I could get it?

[Gorechild]

I say Rock music...
I think whole Chaos/Carnage/War theme fits i nwell with modern metal music..

[Tranj]

We have a full Country and Western soundtrack for the game that we think you will all love. I particularly love the Banjo Battle Music track. Of course the fiddle work on "Anyone Seen My Favorite Grot?" still moves me to tears.

[Dimension]

Rammstein? Triceron, if the devs put Rammstein on the soundtrack, I'll kill you for bringing it up. seriously. I'll find out where you live and skin you like a rabbit. then I will feed your face to rabid ferrets.

no but seriously, from the experience i gathered with previous relic games, the music is not going to be mainly contemporary. face it, techno doesn't make for good epic feelings. you need an orchestra and possibly a chorus for that. i loved techno in Unreal, but trust me, you'll hate techno in a strategy game. industrial... possibly. but i think its safe to say rock won't make an appearance. it just doesn't really fit. rock is not meant to accompany, it is supposed to be consumed all by itself. the opposite of ambient so to speak.

that being said, here are my own personal speculations:

Space Marines: military style orchestra music. you know the drill from all them action movies i guess. knowing relic they might put a twist on it though, and its also gonna own.

Chaos: chorus. lots of chorus, chanting dark, moody, ominous latin, or some unheard of language. slower, and more brooding compared to space marines

Orks: fast-paced, at times even frenzied tribal. lots of drums and percussions, possibly chanting of simple text and single syllables.

that is if each race gets its own soundtrack. i hope so, but since there's only one single player campaign, they might not.

still, I'm pretty confident that relic will yet again do a good job on music. they have never let me down in the past.

[Gorechild]

I agree..

Although Chaos should get metal.. regardless...

[Triceron]

Rammstein? Triceron, if the devs put Rammstein on the soundtrack, I'll kill you for bringing it up. seriously. I'll find out where you live and skin you like a rabbit. then I will feed your face to rabid ferrets.


O_o;;

I didn't mean they should put that music in the game, I said that's the kind of stuff I'd personally like listening to when I play the game. I know a lot of people who play Starcraft with heavy metal and rock on their MP3 playlists boomin out tunes while they game. Most of the RTS games I play I usually listen to the game soundtracks, but whenever I play FPS I go for the heavy stuff. Nothing gets the adrenaline pumping better than heavy metal.

[Warlok]

If I hear electric guitar (GIT-AR...) I`ll scream. Classical. You don`t score serious drama with dance music or techno. As for heavy metal, I would hope a composer takes inspiration from it for certain factions - Rammstein (probably spelled incorrectly...), Type O Negative, etc. have classical power, and power appropriate to this subject of unending war. This should be an appealing opportunity for a good composer.

But don`t twang it. Twang it and I`ll have the music 100% off 100% of the time. Remember Force Commander, if you can stand to.

[Ulfr]

I think that the music should be dictated by the army you play, for example, if you were playing the space marines it should be like....rock with a holy-god-like spin (latin sung corus, lot of climatic parts in the songs), something like michael hoenig's work on baldur's gate when you fight Irenicus, or in throne of bhaal. Maybe something by Jeremy Soule, he has done some awesome work, combine his style with the music of C&C and you have it right there (Jeremy Soule did the soundtracks for nwn, iwd, iwd2, pretty much everything for blackisle, etc.).

[ObsceneName]

Or how abotu they do this
they do the normal soundtrack and just include a mp3 player wow i bet no one sall taht one coming..

[Rikesgard]

Chaos Gate's sountrack was exactly what a 40k soundtrack should be. I demand a full orchestral score.

[Tribunal]

Relic hasn't let me down with music in the past (HW and HW2), and I'm sure they'll do a great job again!

Haven't heard IC's music... Can't find it anywhere around where I live.

[Dimension]

its jazz, reminiscent of the early 20th century period. gives the game a very interesting character (from what i could gather from the demo). classy, and as far as i can tell, no game ever did that before. except some racing game i can't recall the name of.

*edit*
i should mention that i'm not 100% sure its jazz from that period, just kinda sounds to me that way.

[The Collector]

The epicness of orchestra only works with vast regiments of the IG and Titan legions. At least, in my mind. Rock and heavy metal might be more appropriate for the visceral close-up fighting we've been seeing in screen-shots.

[Rikesgard]

The epicness of orchestra only works with vast regiments of the IG and Titan legions. At least, in my mind. Rock and heavy metal might be more appropriate for the visceral close-up fighting we've been seeing in screen-shots.

It worked wonderfully with Chaos Gate. There may be a lot of close-up fighting like in the screens, but much of the game will be a sort of prelude to war. The gloomy orchestral score helps to cement the sort of mild dread prior to the fight.

Although, I should mention that Warcraft 3's expansion featured some nice new music for each of the races. The core title had race-specific music, but the expansion simply improved upon it. So I don't think race specific music would be out of the question either. Orchestral stuff for Marines, more ominous and gloomy orchestral for Chaos, maybe some light metal for Orks, and that kind of thing.

[The Collector]

Orchesta could work for cutscenes-possibly even the concept art movie of the "battle rituals" mentioned in fluff. It might be interesting too.

When I thought of orchesta, I almost thought of classical music since someone brought it up. But something like Craig Armstrong's "Rise" might have interesting possibilities.

[Tribunal]

Honestly, rock and heavy metal would not fit in the game in at all.

First point, most reviewers would mark the music score down quite a bit for having a rock and roll/heavy metal soundtrack. Seriously. I can't tell you how many times that I have read over game reviews and they have some sort of 'blah blah blah rock and roll music -- it just shouldn't be here' sort of comment. Grand Theft Auto does it well, but that's because it's the music of the time on your adjustable car radio, but not many others manage to pull it off.

Second point, the overall theme behind 40k is a gothic, dark time of conflict. The marines are the the blessed knights, the sons of the living god called the emperor, and as they don their armor people bless them and place holy seals on them. They are filled with the words of their lord, the blessings of the tech priests, having chanting would more than fit in, especially with a gothic tone in the music. More proof on that point, look at the architecture, gothic. It fits into the whole mood of the game.

Now, the orcs, of all the races, have the best chances of having a metal/loud crappy rock tune to go by, because they live for the WAAAAAGH, and their armor et al just screams it at times, though MYSELF I prefer the tribal beats, loud bass drums, and more of a primal sort of tone for the music.

Music for the chaos group should be much darker, more evil voices and chanting, and I could hear a bit of a wicked guitar in the background... Sort of a twisted, changed version of the more pure Marines.

Imperial guard's music would have to be the snare drums, crisp military music heard in Aliens and all sorts of other classic films. They see themselves as the main guardians of mankind, and it just fits in with the fluff that I read.

Eldar I can see with more of a grand, majestic yet very depressing music. I've heard samples of it before, and I should really find some and name it for examples. I think the closest would be the elven music from the Lord of the Rings trilogy, it was spot on.

All in all, rock and roll/metal would not be the best of choices, imho. In the long run, it would seem to be selecting a trendy sort of music, one that in a few months or years time would seem out of place, silly even (just look at all of those 80s movies and try to take the music seriously that had all the synths etc playing, talk about funny. Heck, compare those films and then compare the scores to those of Star Wars -- SW had an epic soundtrack, sweeping, and in my opinion will be timeless because they didn't choose music from our own contemporary period. Pick the timeless music, and it will be timeless, pick another, and before you know it will be yesterday's news and the music will be turned off all over the place). All said though, I have full faith in the music selections that will be made -- I have yet to be let down, and I have a feeling that I won't be.

Also on a side note about the music -- will it be dynamic at all? Different music when winning, losing, or middle of the ground? Just curious. Thanks!

[Triceron]

First point, most reviewers would mark the music score down quite a bit for having a rock and roll/heavy metal soundtrack. Seriously. I can't tell you how many times that I have read over game reviews and they have some sort of 'blah blah blah rock and roll music -- it just shouldn't be here' sort of comment.

Just because certain reviewers don't like rock music playing in games doesn't make rock a bad thing to have in the game. Command and Conquer Red Alert had a fairly Rock soundtrack to it and I thought it was very well done and fitting to the gameplay. Starcraft featured a slight new-age soundtrack that had a touch of metal to it. I'm not saying DoW should follow suit with a rock or metal based soundtrack, but I definately don't see anything wrong with it.



Second point, the overall theme behind 40k is a gothic, dark time of conflict.

Warhammer 40k is a complete blend of many sources to create that dark, gothic atmosphere. Some types of Rock/Metal can also be dark and gothic and completely set the mood for the game as well as any epic orchestrated soundtrack. Rock is simply the music; an upbeat, somewhat heavy style of music. There is such thing as orchestral rock.




In the long run, it would seem to be selecting a trendy sort of music, one that in a few months or years time would seem out of place... compare the scores to those of Star Wars -- SW had an epic soundtrack, sweeping, and in my opinion will be timeless because they didn't choose music from our own contemporary period.

There is a lot of rock music that I, as well as many others, would consider timeless. Metallica and Led Zepplin are two bands with great songs that are still listened to. As for games with rock music, there are many epic soundtracks in games that I've listened to from various RPGs that I don't remember even over a year of playing them, yet I can still remember the Duke Nukem theme like I just heard it yesterday. Music doesn't have to be epic to be classic, all it has to do is be easy to listen to and make an impression on the person listening to it. My 2 cents.

[No Surrender]

I think that some of the songs from HW1 would fit in pretty well.

[Anthonace]

i dont care what style of music it is, it just has to fit and make me want to listen to it outside of the game
please no really repetitive music i hate that stuff

[H.B.M.C.]

I really, really don't want this game to have friggin' Death Metal music ragingin in the background. The music from Chaos Gate was perfect, why can't they just ask SSI or Holistic Design nicley for it (assuming they still exist...) for the music? It worked so well!

BYE

[Tribunal]

I am fully aware that there is orchestral rock, and I even own the Metallica S & M double cd set, but just because I myself enjoy a certain genre of music does not mean that it should be included... Just like having country music in DoW, there are certain other styles that just would not be best for the 40k universe. I could see that in a Necromunda style game hands down, but for 40k, it just lacks that certain sense of best fit.

Edit, and as far as Blizzard's music goes, War Craft 3's music is by FAR better than Star Craft's (especially the human's music, I still remember the comment of 'rednecks in space' on one reviewers site! :bandit: )

[Cisst]

I just listened to some dune2 midi's lately and damn, that music was good, I think something comparable to that wouldnt be half bad

[VanHelsingX]

The most important part of the music in Dawn of War is that it has to be evil. Every aspect of Warhammer 40K is dark, nightmarish, and unholy. Even the Imperium is on the evil side. The music should be heavy, violent, and evil (like Slayer, Cradle of Filth, Pantera, Dimmu Borgir and Slipknot).

[starrider]

Chaos: chorus. lots of chorus, chanting dark, moody, ominous latin, or some unheard of language. slower, and more brooding compared to space marines




the keeper songs from hw2. except darker, and more "evil" sounding.

[Triceron]

I just listened to some dune2 midi's lately and damn, that music was good, I think something comparable to that wouldnt be half bad

I listened to the Emperor of Dune soundtrack and it's sorta the kind of music I'm talking about. It's got a lot of electric guitar in it, but it's still orchestral sounding and its got a bit of a techno flavour to it. It's still dramatic music and I thought it was very fitting for Dune.

Something heavier than that would be what I'm thinking of, darker and grittier metal with some melody to it.

[vic 1]

alltho i wud not normaly lisen to realy hard rock/metal i cud think of nothing more pleasing than leading my band of depraved marine's over a mound of smurf bodys to the sound of some realy nasty hevy metal it just fit's like a glove go on close ure eye's and picture it.......................now u see yes ?

[Ragnar_PA83]

The Orks (AOP-06):
Jimi Tenor / Blood on Borstch

The Space Marines (AOP-09):
John Starlight / Ultimate Human Fighting Machine
Kitbuilders / Dark Angels
Even for techno that does not fit tanything and even for techno that sux

[Ragnar_PA83]

im hispanic and i am down with SOtD and Disturbed and metallica and id rather listen to that than that crappy techno he posted on here!! :argh:

[hezz]

Orchestrated would fit best, but id also like an option too play my own music. Nice Rap un Hiphop while fightin in 40k :)

[Asklepios]

The music from Chaos Gate was definitely the best I have heard so far.
Next would be something akin to Bolt Thrower's "Realm of Chaos" CD
The theme from Final Liberation and even the ancient Space Hulk games is definitely better than that progressive techno compilation mentioned above... I regretted buying it, I assure you.

[Maximus Decimus]

Chaos gate music would be superb. I didnt like much of bolt thrower and dont think their music would be good for the game. I think relic will create its own music instead of license someone elses which is much better.

P.S. does anyone know where i can get some of the chaos gate music?

[HerrMorden]

I have 4 of the Chaos Gate tracks.

They are quite good, especially the Theme "March Into Hell"

If you would like to get them, contact me over AIM at HerrMorden. :bandit:

[mauno]

The theme from Final Liberation and even the ancient Space Hulk games is definitely better than that progressive techno compilation mentioned above... I regretted buying it, I assure you.

I didn't mean that the compilation as a whole would suit in the game. There are a lot of crappy tracks on that site and on those records. I meant that only the soundscape of those particular tracks I mentioned earlier would suit perfectly for those races.

Whenever things are calm in the game, the music should be calm and when there is action, I'd like to hear dark electro. Epic and electronic (low-fi maybe?) elements in the same bunch but different approach with different races. I'm not very worried about the music in this game. Homeworld 2's music fitted to the game very well, and the tracks were quite original.


SOtD and Disturbed and metallica . Would fit for a monster truck or a truck racing game.

[mr_mich]

I'm actually a big fan of dark opera.

Specifically Eastern opera from the Soviet Union era. Anyone ever played Hitman 2? That game is full of it, I think it would set a very dreary, gothic ambience for Chaos marines or even loyalist marines.

Orks I could see as some tribal music that speeds up when they engage into battle. (Soulfly would be great)

As for the mystery race...if it were Eldar then I'd definitely say some solemn industrial music. If for IG, then it'd have to be like....fanfare and cadences, etc.

[Asklepios]

I didn't mean that the compilation as a whole would suit in the game. There are a lot of crappy tracks on that site and on those records. I meant that only the soundscape of those particular tracks I mentioned earlier would suit perfectly for those races.


Oh, I agree with that. And I didn't mean for Relic to use Bolt Thrower songs :)
I just think that something akin to that could be suitable for, let's say, Chaos (if it is included).

[Nihil]

Mechwarrior 2. This should be the reference point, and anyone who's heard the game's soundtrack will probably agree.

[Eisenhorn]

i would hope fore something Caos gate style but better and clearer sound... but defenatly orkesterial and chanting in the background of the trac, that would be cool fore SM and CSM, but allmost to wrong for the orks:( the orks should get like more metalstyled gothic mixture with bongodrums in the bacground.....*lol na just cidding i duno what would fit the grean ones theem but hopfully they by the rights of lots of music and u can frealy chose amongst the album, or maby difrent cinds of soundtracs so u can chose between ex. darker music, and lighter music ( fore those of u scared of the dark:) )

[MacMeester]

Why not Symphonic Rock like Ayreon? (www.ayreon.com)
Several styles combined to a real Rock Opera, that would do it

[Mr Carrot]

Communist Era choral and millitary pieces would be perfect for an Imperial Guard and over all schore for the game.

For the marines i agree with the majority they should have a muted and unobtrusive gregorian esque chanting heavy score with perhaps one or two battle pieces that are the complete opposite (for dramatic effect).

[fireship4]

You've got to be careful (obviously) in choosing music, as it can change the mood of a battle so much that you forget that your looking at people killing each other in a struggle to survive. Although this is fantasy, i think a soundtrack that has a little seriousnes, instead of a baseline that pops in everytime the power fists light up, would suit this game the best. Although...

questions

will the music be done by a real/simulated orchestra (assuming there is an orchestral score)

will there be situational music? I fully expect the answer to be yes, as most RTSs have it now, but a more varied scope, e.g. quickening as units panic would improve the game no end

[sajuukar]

Exotic, re-mixed ethnic music always worked for me... doesn't the whole Warhammer universe fall into that "so-far-into-the-future-that-it's-exotic" description? That kind of music always struck a cord with me.

If you've played Homeworld and Homeworld 2, you'll know what I mean.

[Thomos]

For the marines i agree with the majority they should have a muted and unobtrusive gregorian esque chanting heavy score with perhaps one or two battle pieces that are the complete opposite (for dramatic effect).You mean something like for example Kyrkovisan by Finntroll?

Description: Old man preaching in Latin (simile satanas es, in abyssum revertum > approximately translated: thou art equal in image to the beast, return to thy abyss) to a mob of people. Followed by some strong guitarwork (which lasts for about 45 seconds or something, but they manage to produce more noise in those 45 seconds than GW manages to change it's fluff in 15 years...)

[Nihil]

I'm against having rock guitars in the game. They work counter to the mood of WH40K, I think. Except maybe for the orks.

[DarthFelth]

or noise marines ;)

[Thomos]

Except maybe for the orks.
Agreed. Then again, Gregorian chanting while smashing through hordes of greenskins will take a while to get used to (or at least in my case...)

[H.B.M.C.]

I'm against having rock guitars in the game. They work counter to the mood of WH40K, I think. Except maybe for the orks.

You clearly have not heard the music in Final Liberation then. That was some cool music, fit the game very well.

BYE

[Szedrencs]

Any "Apocalyptica" fans out there? :) (http://www.apocalyptica.com)

[RogueFox]

Probably already been said but Chaos Gate has a great score.

[Abaddon]

well i have an idea for chaos, has anyone played the game Apocalyptica? the main theme would make good music for chaos,( well that type of music)

[GreatSamaman]

Any "Apocalyptica" fans out there? :) (http://www.apocalyptica.com)
Very much so, they rule!

[Camthaleon]

I think the music in Chaos Gate was great, any idea who made the tracks? any idea where the lyrics are?

[TinBane]

Chaos gate music was by Carl Orff (i can't remember if its two f's or two r's) and it is Oh Fortuna from the Carma Burana Opera i believe (forgive me if i'm wrong, but i studyed it years ago). I know its called oh fortuna, and its a few more songs from the same opera. Download or buy the CD. It shouldn't be a problem for relic to use it, as it is a free score, it isn't copyrighted. So yeah, they could even integrate it into their own music, its more relics style than ripping it off fully.
Adrian

[IWAssassin]

Oh Fortuna? LOL! Talk about... unimaginative [Oh Fortuna being THE stereotypical song for that circumstance]. Oh well.

Generally classical is the way to go, as it can be so incredibly broad. From Oh Fortuna, to Ride of the Valkyries depending on what type of battle theme you want to convey. Heck Total Annihiliation had one of the best Soundtracks EVER in a game, and all it was was Classical made up to sound "Like Wagner"

Techno CAN fit, but its INCREDIBLY hard to have techno music actually convey emotion [not that it cant be done - listen to VNV Nation if you want to hear some techno with deep lyrics and an emotional sound [albeit it varies from song to song, some of my favorites are "Carbon" "Beloved" "Holding On" and "Solitude"]. Metal is just outright wrong. Very vaguely it fits the idea of Orks or Chaos, but then again Oh Fortuna fits Chaos just fine, and it wouldnt be hard to find something for Orks - in both cases fitting better than the Metal would.

Rap certainly doesnt work, Country doesnt fit the theme of 40k at all. We could do Polka music!

[senor_kickass]

that music from South Park?

[Triceron]

I wouldn't opt for metal per se, but a form of orchestral rock would suit nicely.

[Canadian_F_H]

i am probably the biggest Pantera, Metallica, Slayer, Down, and Black sabbath fan here!! i can see how all these fit in well (i scare people when i play 40k) because i play some of it while we battle. Slayer's "Raining blood" is great for Blood angel's and Khorne worshipers. Metallica's "Disposable heros" (you will die! when i say! you must die! Back to the Front! = commisar after just poping the leiutenant and addressing the men he was trying to lead in a retreat) and black sabbath's "black Sabbath" with its slow grind and build and complete sense of evil. and pantera i just love them and if im gonna die in a fight! that is what is gonna be playing when they finally drag me down!!!

BUT!!!!!

though these have all served me well in table top games, i completely understand that metal probably should not be on the game. neither should any "real" music. it should all be created specifically for the game. we need to kidnap a dozen composers. and administer Interogatorum for 3 weeks at the hands of DarkAngels Interrogator chaplains. and subject them to 2 months of the most horrific war imagry we now poses. and administer "re-culturalization" to where they feel that they have been living in the imperium for the last 30 years of their life "under the rule of the most oppressive regime imaginable" and then once they have gotten a feel for what the game is about. you chain em to their pulpit and get em composing. with a laspistol held to the back of their heads just to remind them that we mean business!!

[Canadian_F_H]

btw disturbed, and system of a down are not metal bands. and in fact there are almost no metal bands on the radio. unless its been requested it probably isnt metal. or your just lucky and have a local metal station. those bands are pop-rock. pop-notsoalternative-alternative, and some sort of fake modern hard rock. if it contains rap it isnt metal, its rap-core.

and BTW when i said i am a fan of Down. im talking about "Down" not System of a down.

[gozo]

Jeremy Soule (http://www.jeremysoule.com/) is a great composer. He has made loads of great music for many games (Total Annihilation and Icewind Dale being my favs). I think he might be able to create some good tunes for DoW.

Also, check out this (http://music.download.com/gregoriansense/3600-9126_32-100088371.html?tag=list#songs). Chanting like that with Jeremy Soule's orchestral background is what I would like to hear while playing DoW.

[Shim]

The music played during the credits in Firewarrior is nice, I'd like to hear stuff like that in DoW.

[Abaddon]

i still think classical is the way to go, i still listen to the Total Annihilation soundtrack when am playing other games simply because its the best game soundtrack i have heard. I think the music from Alien vs pred would do for the orks, cos the pred music has got all those tribel(sp) drums, just please don't do it like the C&C series, i could never get into the soundtrack,

[Beelzebuddy]

We have a full Country and Western soundtrack for the game that we think you will all love. I particularly love the Banjo Battle Music track. Of course the fiddle work on "Anyone Seen My Favorite Grot?" still moves me to tears.Ooh! Ooh! The dueling banjos song from "Deliverance!" In an Ork cutscene! Please?

Seriously, looks like we can all agree on a primarily classical/latin chant theme, with snatches of techno, metal and tribal thrown in to taste.

[Camthaleon]

Yeah old boring me again i suppose...

I tried to find the lyrics of Chaos Gate, and even though people claim it's by Carl Orff, I have serious doubts about that, none of the Carmila Burana lyrics match what I got down on paper from the wave file number 10 of the game, i have no idea of the title of that track, it's about 2.10 minutes long, and has 3 verses. And from what I heard and wrote on paper, none of it matches Orff's lyrics. So it's a bit funky...

[gozo]

Camthaleon: I'm pretty sure that Chaos Gate's music doesn't include Carmina Burana. I've tried to find out who made music for Chaos Gate but I haven't suceeded.

Abaddon: Jeremy Soule made music for Total Annihilation. I think he could make music for DoW, too.

[Asklepios]

I agree with Gozo. And I too have not been able to find that out. Anyone in the know about this ?

[Shakrith]

On the subject of Carmina Burana, I am sure that the lyrics wouldn't fit: nobody ever seems to realise that O Fortuna, movement 1 which is so famous and overused, actually has lyrics at all! I have heard so many versions of O Fortuna (which change the dynamics to be loud from the beginning to the end, omitting the whisperlike majority of the movement) which have different lyrics that I wouldn't be surprised if it was Carmina Burana in the end. (I haven't played Chaos Gate).

However, if Carmina Burana were used in DoW, that'd be great! I think that music should be as follows:

Space Marine: Latin/Greek hymns. Fits the warrior monk aspect.

Chaos: evil, chaotic hymns to the dark gods, like the Imperial ones but more sinister in sound.

Orks: Heavy metal, grunge music.

*cough*Secret race which I shall not reveal*cough*: I shall not say. Something along the lines of "Is not all one" would be good. Notice that this could fit the descriptions of either of the forerunners in most people's minds for what the race is.

[Cailet]

Get the music from AOE 2 and make it futuristic (more complex and wierd kinda like the Temple of Time music from Ocarina of Time) then when fighting starts have special music for each side Orks get war chants/drums Marines get a sort of Fanfare and/or chant in no language anyone understands (battle hymns, see?) Chaos get evil organ and creepy music.

[Vijil]

We should all write a latin chant, then pass the wav around and record ourselves doing it on top of each other till it sounds like a choir. Slap a few synth orchestra hits in there and viola, a soundtrack involving a choir made up almost entirely of fans. Sweet.

Either that or John Williams. FFS get John Williams.

[Ramrod]

lol, i second vijil's idea.

but seriously, i trust relic's judgement for the soundtrack, they havem't gone wrong before

[Falcrum]

Let's hope they don't start now.

[gozo]

I finally found out who made the music for Chaos Gate. Some guy on some forum told me that the guy's name is Jim Crew (http://www.jimcrewmusic.com/index.htm). I checked his site and on the credits page it says Warhammer 40.000 under the Computer Games category. I guess that means Chaos Gate, but I'm not sure.

[spacewolflord]

Here is my two cents. I will amit that I have not read all of the posts so... They should get music like form Iced Earth, Symphony X, and the man him self Frank Klepacki who did ALL the music for Westwood. Everyone I listed have done metal orchestral. I am 110% positive whatever Relic does will be good but....

The Intuitive Mind is a sacred gift, the Rational mind, a loyal servant. Our society has honored the servant and forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

[Camthaleon]

Hmm, Checked out this Jim Crew dude, i somewhat doubt he has much material, since the guy is virtually unknown, tried to make searches for any of his lyrics on google. No results, tried downloading some material through peer to peer programs, absolutely nothing. Very dodgy character this Jim Crew.

[Brother Jonah]

i still think classical is the way to go, i still listen to the Total Annihilation soundtrack when am playing other games simply because its the best game soundtrack i have heard.
I agree, Abaddon - TA soundtrack beats all other hands down. I have it mixed in with some other sountrack music from Band of Brothers, Gospel of John, and a number of swashbuckling movie themes composed by Erich Wolfgang Korngold. I would imagine that Sierra will come out with a very good ambient soundtrack, as they have yet to dissapoint with either of the Homeworld soundtracks. I think they even won some awards with the first Homeworld soundtrack, didn't they? They were good mood-setting scores, unintrusive during the parts it needed to be background music, but when the action started to peak, the score helped set the tone there as well. Very satisfying! What they DON'T need are endlessly obviously-repeated themes that seem to be so much the standard on games these days...

[Shadione]

I agree, Abaddon - TA soundtrack beats all other hands down. I have it mixed in with some other sountrack music from Band of Brothers, Gospel of John, and a number of swashbuckling movie themes composed by Erich Wolfgang Korngold. I would imagine that Sierra will come out with a very good ambient soundtrack, as they have yet to dissapoint with either of the Homeworld soundtracks. I think they even won some awards with the first Homeworld soundtrack, didn't they? They were good mood-setting scores, unintrusive during the parts it needed to be background music, but when the action started to peak, the score helped set the tone there as well. Very satisfying! What they DON'T need are endlessly obviously-repeated themes that seem to be so much the standard on games these days...

Award-winning composer Jeremy Soule wrote the music for Total Annihilation. He also happens to be the composer for Dawn of War. :)

[Soulblighter]

Jeremy Soule did the music for HW and IC too right?

[Shadione]

No. Jeremy did one piece of music for IC (the intro animatic), but did not do any music for HW.

[Soulblighter]

Guess i was thinking of another game. Anyway he has quite the resume and i am thrilled hes working on DoW.

[IWAssassin]

LOL Shadione. Now you make me feel stupid for spouting how Total Annihiliation had a great soundtrack and how DoW should so something similar. Naturally Relic is one step ahead of me (:

[Canadian_F_H]

LOL Shadione. Now you make me feel stupid for spouting how Total Annihiliation had a great soundtrack and how DoW should so something similar. Naturally Relic is one step ahead of me (:

its good to know that relic is always at least a step ahead of its fans. that way we will always be pleasantly surprised by the outcome.

[Slashco]

Though somewhat late to this thread, I'd like to add my approval to those who said that Chaos Gate had the perfect Warhammer music. Still, if Mr. Soule is doing the soundtrack, I don't think we will be disappointed. :)

[IgnusDei]

i know it's practically HERESY for me to say this but...

couldn't THQ give yoko kanno a shout for the orchestral score?

[Exterminatus]

I reckon something from monty python would be best.....something like always look on the brightside of life playing in the background whilst my terminator assault squad cleanse a eldar guardian base....
Or even better monty python quotes from the marines when then perform actions i:e the grey knight always wins or RUN WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the chaos marines could be those french guys and say things like "you dad was a window licker and your mum smelt of elderberries"

[WarmasterHorus]

It has been mentioned before: Bolt Thrower would be the best music for DoW, albums like "Realm of Chaos", "Warmaster" and the latest "Honour, Valor, Pride" were all heavily inspired by 40k. It was actually Bolt Throwers "Realm of Chaos" that got me interested in 40k :) I find it very fitting to the theme. Heavy and dark, the music advancing forth like the unstoppable force of a Landraider tank, relentless. There could be no better music for 40k.

[GreatSamaman]

Jeremy Soule, the guy who did the music from Total Annihilation is doing DoW's music. So, it's in good hands guys. :D

[Master-Demon]

Could anyone talk with Jeremy Soule and have him to make heavy or new metal :guitar: soundtracks/background music for chaos and orks?

:bow: please....

[Canadian_F_H]

death to the vile betrayal against metal by the fallen that go by the name of "NU"

but what do yall think of the official trailer music. is it the game music and what do yall think of it???

[Chaos Lord]

ive heard some pretty good music in CNC somtimes
i have found that for stratagy a fast style of music can realy liven up a large fight:)

[Aun'shi]

I find a bit of heavy-metal or orchestrated music fits in perfectly with large scale combat.

[Master-Demon]

the music in the official trailer is..... okay.....

this kind of music is great for space marines (and maybe eldar), the 40k universe and the religious part of the game...

but nu-metal is much more suitable for letting ppl have an idea/the feeling of chaos(nu-metal) and orks(heavy-metal)

[Dimension]

the trailer music hit right home with me. if i were a few years younger i'd have cried.

and if i may make a suggestion to the devs:

DON'T LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE (including me) AS TO WHAT MUSIC TO PUT IN. they all have no clue (except for a few, but they haven't been requesting stuff, so meh). HW2 tells me you guys know what good music is. jeremy soule tells me that we will have good music.

don't try to influence people that unlike very very few of us know what to do. after all, they make money off their talent. do you?

[Master-Demon]

dimension, u're right...

the metal thing is just my opinion and as the devs made great sounds for the HW series, they hopefully will do the same for DoW....maybe, Jeremy Soule or an other will find a better way to represent chaos and orks in the background music

may the gods be with you :!:

[Noir]

Liked the Trailer music,it was just so...so...Warhammer.

[Master-Demon]

btw, as long as there is an option to turn off the music, everyone is able to listen to his favourite music while playing this incredible game :spin:


*nuff said*

[Triceron]

DON'T LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE (including me) AS TO WHAT MUSIC TO PUT IN. they all have no clue (except for a few, but they haven't been requesting stuff, so meh).

As the original poster, my question as originally stands is what do you LIKE to hear, not what you WANT to hear. This is meant for discussion what various people would like to listen to as they play the game.

[Dimension]

yes, and i wanted to make sure the devs reading this forums don't take it too seriously.

[Master-Demon]

as already said, i only posted my opinion, not an order or something similar

[Khelben]

For the love of all things holy, no techno!!! I can't stand shit like that, excuse me guys but that's just my opinion...

Think Chaos Gate and Dark Omen style music. I know that DO was set in a more medieval type universe but I think that some of the music from that game could be used for inspiration nevertheless...

[WarmasterHorus]

New-metal for Chaos?!? :busted: NO... just NO

Here's my list:

Marines: Rammstein type metal or classical (like in the trailer or something like Wagner)

Traitor Legion Chaos Marines: Bolt Thrower (mid-tempo, heavy death metal)

Orcs: Punk (and by that I mean real punk, not Blink 182)

Eldar: Ambient

[ilia1986]

face it, techno doesn't make for good epic feelings. you need an orchestra and possibly a chorus for that. i loved techno in Unreal, but trust me, you'll hate techno in a strategy game. industrial... possibly. but i think its safe to say rock won't make an appearance. it just doesn't really fit. rock is not meant to accompany, it is supposed to be consumed all by itself. the opposite of ambient so to speak.



Ever played Emperor Battle for dune?

If you did, im sure you remember the Superb Harkonnen soundtrack that was there.

Now that was atmospheric.

[Khelben]

Or what the heck, let's just go with "Rosa Helikopter" all the way ;)

[WarmasterHorus]

Veeeery funny... not. :)

[Master-Demon]

Harkonnen soundtrack? .....hmm.....ahh! i remember....yeah, a great music made a great atmosphere

[Master-Demon]

New-metal for Chaos?!? :busted: NO... just NO

Here's my list:

Marines: Rammstein type metal or classical (like in the trailer or something like Wagner)

Traitor Legion Chaos Marines: Bolt Thrower (mid-tempo, heavy death metal)

Orcs: Punk (and by that I mean real punk, not Blink 182)

Eldar: Ambient

sounds good to me (my favourite music are: all kinds of metal, punk, rock and alternitive)

the best thing in your list is that there is no techno cause i don't like that -beep- cause it's -beep- and -beep- really -beep-, sorry, but that's my opinion...if you don't think so, tell me your opinion or -beep-

[WarmasterHorus]

Well some people could argue that Ambient is a form of techno, I don't think so. Techno in its usual sense is: BOOM KSHHH BOOM KSHHH BOOM KSHHH, and that has no place in the dark and grim 41'st century.

[Master-Demon]

hihi, yeah WarmasterHorus, or techno is something like:

MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS - an hour later - MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS - after a day - MTSS MTSS MTSS MTSS - end

*ready to run away from the hords of ppl who like techno*

[WarmasterHorus]

Hey you seem to have gotten the hang of it, perhaps you should get into the business and make a fortune :) ...that is if you can live with the nightmares.

[Khelben]

isn't it something along the lines of ost, ost, ost, ost, ost... lim (eternity). Gee, they really must like cheese..

[Master-Demon]

i rather wanna get possessed by a bloodthirster and die for the chaos god tzeench than live with that kind of nightmares...if you know what i mean

[Firefly]

Jeremy Soule, the guy who did the music from Total Annihilation is doing DoW's music. So, it's in good hands guys. :D
Ah, excellent.

[ilia1986]

Techno in its usual sense is: BOOM KSHHH BOOM KSHHH BOOM KSHHH.


:lol: :rofl:

[emperorex]

i think that every race should have a different music,but marines and chaos
should have heavy metal with chorous (according to the gothic stile of
warhammer 40k) orks should have rock and punk music, eldar some sort
of ambient music.

and remember

IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF A FAR FUTURE THERE IS ONLY WAR :matrix:

[Nelo Angelo]

Hi... can someone tell me what the melody in the Dawn of War trailer is? Sounds like some opera.. maybe Wagner? Can somebody help me?

[SABScope]

I don't know if anyone mentioned this over the last 7 seven pages but, go onto the home site (http://dawnofwargame.com) and press sound on, a tiny box in the top right corner. Perfect, brooding, evil...

[Antioch]

I wish they'd do a metal soundtrack for DoW. Killswitch engage, Mudvayne, Tool, and Faer Factory would make for a great soundtrack. Trui Metal forever! :D :buddies:

But, Jeremy soule will make for a good soundtrack. Total Annihilation's soundtrack was godly, for lack of a better word.

[Master-Demon]

Antioch, i love Mudvayne, Tool, and Faer Factory but what's 'Killswitch engage'?

[Antioch]

KSW is on the Freddy vs. Jason soundtrack, track 2. That's a good description of their hardcore songs. 'When darkness falls' is a perfect song for Chaos Marines. If you have Kazaa, try downloading some. They have very heavy double bass drums, and extremely entertaining guitar, to say the least.

[Master-Demon]

Kazaa? illegal downloads? P2P? filesharing?....What's that? ;)

[Soulblighter]

locking this before anyone else does something stupid.