So, what races will make it into the game.....

[Adratus]

Title says it all really, what races do you think will be in the game? Aside from Ork and marines......

I'm thinking Eldar and Chaos tbh, like in dawn of war 1.

Just seems like a relic thing to do.

However I would love to see Necrons :)

[Pocktio]

Orks. Well that's a given. 'Nids seem highly likely also.

Personally I want to fight Chaos, although either them or Eldar could be pulling the strings a la DoW.

[Croaxleigh]

Slaugth. ;)

[Adratus]

Chaos would be a logical choice, as you would go from fighting the countless numbers of orks and maybe tyranids, to very small groups of elite soldiers.

Would make a good gameplay shift.

Also Imagine fighting a daemon prince with a thunder hammer :)


Slaugth

Nooooooooooooooo, they would be like flood in halo lol

[Pocktio]

Pffffffft Chaos would be great if they had huge swarms of mad cultists to clog up my chainsword.

Scatter in a few Chaos Legions for spice-up miniboss fights. Profit.

[Shuma]

THE SLAUGHT ARE THE OUTSIDER'S "NECRONS" AGHABHGHGAHRGHA

Well i think Chaos and Eldar are a given, and we know Tyranids were in one of the first trailers but we've not heard of them since. Sooooooo, my vote is for Chaos and Eldar. After all we all know Chaos, Eldar, Orks and SM are the "core" races of 40k, that said i'd obviously like to see Necrons.

[Nightwolf]

I would like to see a little bit of tzeentch in the game. Maybe a lovely chaos sorcerer? :)

[Blueliner07]

How about a level where you execute a boarding action onto a Space Hulk and get swarmed with Tyranids?? Seems to fit the game engine but maybe not the story. Maybe in Space Marine II..........

[Chompster]

well since it is a forge world thats being attacked.. and Chaos is most likely gonna be in it.. IRON WARRIORS!!!
i hope nids wont be in it, and they dont seem to fit in really well with the story anyway.a new enemy would be nice for a change, but none really fit in well with the story we've gotten so far

[CoraxCartman]

Imagine fighting rubric marines. You barely fight of 5 of them which are just walking power armors and a bit after that you hear a laugter in the darkness shifting away.

[AntiCommie]

Chaos would be nice. I'm hoping for some IG allies too.

[phaseshifter87]

I really wish someone would give us some more tid bits on the game so we could all stop speculating. The game is done pretty much, all they are doing is polishing.

Some much need previews and NEW information would be appreciated Relic/THQ :)

[Chompster]

i wouldnt expect anything big until like 3month from release and sicne we still have 7months to go or so. it could still be awhile. and thats just to much time to be releasing stuff now, they wouldnt have anything to show later to remind people that its coming soon without revealing to much. so all we can do is speculate and wait

[holyknight]

wait what tyranids seen in trailer? where link please?

[TheV3ng3ance]

About that new official site.

[Saberdark]

wait what tyranids seen in trailer? where link please?


It's from one of the really old trailers for this game. I don't think they ever released that one publicly, only private showings and some shakycam videos of it. There was what appeared to be a Carnifex dieing in the background of the scene with the massive explosion that they have in pretty much all the newer trailers. The guy giving the presentation also hinted at there being something in that trailer to suggest what other races might be in the game. I'd say it's fairly confirmed 'Nids are in, but they could have changed things since then.

I'm dubious of them having too many races in the game. Since they are only enemies, they would need to be varied enough to matter. Of course, this would mean that Nids would be a horrible choice of enemy to fight considering the presence of Orks, so I could be wrong.

Still, I think at the very least we will be seeing Chaos or Eldar. It would feel weird to have a game without some sort of enemy that is capable of having an actual plan for the plot to revolve around. Those two would be the top choices for that.

[Bowkers]

Squats.



wait what tyranids seen in trailer? where link please?


Its when the orbital bombardment comes down in the first trailer. A Carnifex or what looks like one is fighting a dreadnought.

[Misterpeanut288]

i wouldnt expect anything big until like 3month from release and sicne we still have 7months to go or so. it could still be awhile. and thats just to much time to be releasing stuff now, they wouldnt have anything to show later to remind people that its coming soon without revealing to much. so all we can do is speculate and wait

We are going to get a new website soon and there is supposed to be a press hands on demo next week so I am expecting info to start coming in either at the end of this month or the middle of March.

Edit: Just checked the Twitter page and they will be offering people a chance to playtest Spacemarine in Vancouver which I am assuming is tied to the press hands on demo.

[Croaxleigh]

Some much need previews and NEW information would be appreciated Relic/THQ
A bit of patience to let them get out their current 40k product before they start dishing out all of the info on their next 40k product would probably be advisable. ;)

[Nightwolf]

They better have something to unlock after passing whole game. Maybe a terminator armour? Like in resident evil demolishing weapons just for fun.

[Bayamon]

Squats.




Its when the orbital bombardment comes down in the first trailer. A Carnifex or what looks like one is fighting a dreadnought.


Am i watching the wrong trailer ?
I dont see any Dreads fighting anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hMG6DoMBOo

This trailer ?


Btw. isnt Chaos in already ?
Chaos Space Marines were the only enemies if i remember correctly the player fought in the old gameplay presentation.

[Chompster]

We are going to get a new website soon and there is supposed to be a press hands on demo next week so I am expecting info to start coming in either at the end of this month or the middle of March.
yea but do you really expect a lot of new things to be shown? i dont. we'll just get more of what we already know. maybe in a new way, but its still the same.

but we'll have to wait and see


Btw. isnt Chaos in already ?
Chaos Space Marines were the only enemies if i remember correctly the player fought in the old gameplay presentation. no. that isnt the same game that was being made by someone else it has NOTHING to do with this game

[Carach]

bay: there are definitely tyranids in one of the earlier trailers and showings of the game at E3 (was it e3? i think so) the other year.

[Misterpeanut288]

It was a E3 2009 trailer with extra footage for the press only there is a low quality video of it floating around somewhere.

Also do we know where this forgeworld is with the Ultramarines participating I would think it would be in the Ultima Segmentum which means a possible Tau presence.

[TheV3ng3ance]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfjuNl20Huc&feature=related
For clarification here is the old game trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPEvt3Ef_z0&feature=related
At 4:22 that is definitely a carnifex.

[Bowkers]

Heh, I was worried, I'd got it wrong, cheers V3ng3ance :)

[Nightwolf]

God csm in that trailer can't do shit...

Anyway i hope we'l see something from chaos in this game.

[Carach]

the 'old' one isnt related to this game, and it as extremely early footage, so not really surprising that the enemies are retards, killswitch :)

though i really did love the dark atmosphere of that demo :(

[AWarGuy]

I would love to see some Eldar or Chaos with some IG in the mix, need to get the others DoW's before I decide if they should be included (I have W40k, DoW 2 which is coming in ebay since I needed a hard copy and DoW:WA is on the way after a sucessful bid on ebay)

[TheV3ng3ance]

And behind that carnifex is a monolith.
nomaybenomaybe

[mte666]

thank you for posting the link that showed the carnifex i have looking for that video for ever i really hope the game/gameplay has not changed that much from what was shown in that trailer cause gameplay in that looked awesome (im sure its changed some cause its 3rd person shooter now and not action rpg anymore)

on subject of the topic i hope its kind of like the book Helsreach in which there a lot of IG stationed there and your sent in with a small force of other space marines to help the IG defend the planet.

[TheV3ng3ance]

Forget the carnifex what about the customizer? There hasn't been any news on that at all, Corvus armor better be there. And a Skull version for Beakie Chaplains.

[Shuma]

There's beakie chaplains?

[holyknight]

thanks for the link! that was amazing. I love the heavy bolter guy stepping down on the ork's head, going SPLAT.
and wow, Titan shooting guns and Carnifex going crazy. this game looks better than I thought!
YEA!

[SPEZZMAREN]

Customisation in that same video at 2:59. Multiplayer?

If so, it looks like it may be ranked MP!

[TheV3ng3ance]

Shuma
I've been wanting to cut off a head of a Lost and Damned and putting it on a chaplain.

[holyknight]

so you dislike skeleton face? I like skeleton face, chaplain I think is my favourite character in space marine army, probably my favourite character in whole w40k world right under inquisitor

[Croaxleigh]

If so, it looks like it may be ranked MP!
I generally suck at games like this (though I do occasionally get my crowning moment of awesome, and that's good enough for me), but if there's team ranked then I would so drag downplay Spess Mahreen MP with a bunch of RN Dolts.

[Nightwolf]

Man that warboss is freaking awsome, Next expansion for space marine(whatever it will be called) should be You playing as a warboss, and lead your waaaghhh

[Makenshi]

chaplain I think is my favourite character in space marine army

Tac: "Chaplain, have you not a weapon?"

Chap: "..."

CSMs charging

Chaplain: "..."

CSMs close

Chaplain: "..."

CSMs very close

Chaplain: "BUUUURRRNNN, HERETIC!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7335eqo9JHM

Damn best scene in that movie for sure!

[SPEZZMAREN]

No, because then it wouldn't be "Space Marine".

Yes that is an awesome scene.

[Nightwolf]

Learn to Read.

[SPEZZMAREN]

Ok, that was a daft thing too say. I can clearly read, and theres no need to get offensive. But, if there is, I could come back with "learn to punctuate", but I wont reduce these forums to slander. The point I was making was, it would probably be a seperate game series, not an expansion or sequel to Space Marine.

[Chompster]

Man that warboss is freaking awsome, Next expansion for space marine(whatever it will be called) should be You playing as a warboss, and lead your waaaghhh thats the WB from DoW2... nothing special, just reskined

[Carach]

so whats happened to this play through in vancouver? when do we get the juice?

[TheV3ng3ance]

That video brings me some questions. Will game have duel wielding? Also I still think there should be a shotgun or a ripper gun if you need to be grimdark.

[|RK| Relentless]

I wonder what the combat system will be like:S
Usual hack and slash? looking forward anyway though:)

[Chompster]

Also I still think there should be a shotgun or a ripper gun if you need to be grimdark.
SM's dont use either so i highly doubt it. besides, heavy bolters are more then enough to make it grimdark

[Shuma]

I think he meant in MP, wonder how that kind of stuff would work in MP like assuming there's Orks vs Marines only, can marines only use marine weapons and orks only ork weapons?

[TheV3ng3ance]

Im saying it from a gameplay prespective. There should be a varity of weapons

[Pocktio]

Well scouts use shotties...they could use that as an excuse to have one sitting in the armoury. I hope they don't, unless there are scouts/ig or whatever.

[Chompster]

Ork weapons only with with Orks dont they? because they believe that it works or something along that line.. but who knows.. hope you cant use the other's weapons besides melee weps. ork with a HB.. i just dont see it happening

and yea scouts do, but we dont even know if they are i the game or not. not having a cover system and there always being a talked about "you are cover" and you can smash through stuff makes me suspect there wont be scouts as they wouldn't be able to do that..

[Chompster]

this might be slightly offtopic.. but maybe not we'll see.

anyway, while browsing some 40K art i found this huge picture(1920x3000) of the WH40KSM cover art(?) and when i zoomed in to look at the detail i notice something somewhat hidden.. now this might be old news and im just late to the party, so sorry if it is.

but anyhoo heres it is: http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/images/05/10/51059_Warhammer40000SpaceMarines-Poster-01.jpg

now if you zoom in and move to the space marine holding the thunder hammer and look slightly left, up from his knee with the ultramarine symbol on it you see something in power armor. it looks kinda old(pre-heresy maybe?) but what i wanted to know is what chapter is it? i dont recognize the symbol. it looks like its a cup(like blood angels apoths have) with wings on it. dont know many chapters so nothing comes to mind

also what do you guys think? does this mean anything? or was it just thrown in for details sake? i somewhat doubt it as its barely visible and not something id say an artist would put time in if it didn't. but yea..

and if you then go all the way right and look under plasma guns muzzle(?) it looks like theres someone there too, when i first saw it i thought OMGGKTERMIE! but thats very unlikely :P

anyhoo, just felt like sharing see if its new to anyone else and maybe get a little discussion started seeing there isn't much else to do. but your all busy with Ret aren't you? lol

[Carach]

looks like an eagle of some kind.

may just be reading too much into it dude, there's special armours with eagles and jazz in dow2 for example, might just be an arty version of something like that.

[Ramrod]

Yeah Pock, good call. What about a flashback to Titus' scout days? Then Relic could sneak some shotties in =)

And maybe a sniper rifle...

[TheV3ng3ance]

A captain has free reign over a armoury.

[Shuma]

That marine to the right of Thunderhammer brother looks like a Black Templar, has the knightly helmet and it looks like he has the tabard, robe whatever the thing they wear it's called, probably was just thrown there for the sake of having more marines in there.

[Ramrod]

Vengeance, I know, I was just clowning around. I definitely do not want to play as a scout in a flashback.

Aquila on the shoulder of the left-side guy looks a tiny bit like the Raven Guard iconography, the way that the feathers are pointed down. Helmet looks like a Mk2 or 3. As Shuma said, though, he's got some kind of cloth over his chest, but rather than a BT-style tabbard, I'd say it looks more like the old UM (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440176a&prodId=prod1060042&rootCatGameStyle=) vet toga (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440176a&prodId=prod1060041&rootCatGameStyle=).

The details on the right-side guy are so obscured, unfocused and incomplete that you could say it's <insert ANY Marine chapter here> and it would be just as likely, not just Grey Knights.

Is any of this important in any way? Short answer: no. Long answer: if this picture has anything to do with the final game (which has obviously evolved away from the four-dudes-kicking-ass pitch that we saw two years ago, which is also when this picture was released) I'll eat every hat in my house.

The picture was made to look pretty. That's artistic license for you.

About the carnifex: I really don't understand why people insist on taking a trailer from 2009 which shows an old and markedly different concept of the game and take it for granted that, despite the game having changed in focus from a group of four dudes to a single one, it is still relevant. Nothing has been confirmed nor denied, but seeing as we've never seen even another hint of that carnifex in two years, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Besides, Orks have enough variety that I'd be beside myself with joy if they explore the units from the Ork codex in depth. Who doesn't want to see Runtherds? Or friggin' suicide bomb-squigs? How about a scripted battle fighting Kommandos in the dark, having to use your suit's auto-senses?

I'd rather see fifteen different types of Ork units than five or six Nid ones, fixe or six Eldar ones and five or six Ork ones. Hell, they could even slowly warp them into Chaos Orks (a la Daemonhunters codex) throughout the game, giving them an excuse to throw in a few Khornate daemons. Final boss: Warboss riding Bloodthirster. You heard it here first.

[Carach]

u sure about that? i for one will be bitterly disappointed if all we get is ork butchery over and over.

its repetitive for one, and they're a rubbish race anyway that, imo, completely ruins the grim dark atmosphere of wh40k, and effectively makes this game a comedy (in the event of it just being them).

on the counter though; if it was to be only orks (ghey), the story best be good still (somehow). the "orks being manipulated by x y or z race" stories are a bit stale.

[Ramrod]

Orks are my favourite "bad guy" race after Tyranids, so yeah, I'm sure.

[TheV3ng3ance]

There wasn't a article for this game in My Game Informer I demand repercussions.

[Chompster]

it would be a complete letdown if Orks were the only bad guys, chaos HAS to be in! or at least the Multiplayer otherwise this game is gonna FAIL soooooo hard.

[Ruined]

Squats confirmed, they weren't wiped out they just got held up at the forge world tavern :elephant:

[Ra owa]

It isn't the races that will determine if the game is good or not. You could have as many races involved in the game as you want, but if the gameplay sucks, then that's it.
I'm not saying it has to be the case, but if wouldn't you rather have awesome gameplay with good polish and a nice in depth story rather than a smattering of more races?

Of course, you can have both! Time will tell...

@Ruined - oh stop it :P

[Pocktio]

Assuredly true Shumey but it would be disappointing for a W40K game of this calibre and AAA-iness to not have more than two races.

[@li3n]

Aquila on the shoulder of the left-side guy looks a tiny bit like the Raven Guard iconography, the way that the feathers are pointed down. Helmet looks like a Mk2 or 3. As Shuma said, though, he's got some kind of cloth over his chest, but rather than a BT-style tabbard, I'd say it looks more like the old UM vet toga.

It can't be mk2 because there's no spike on the helmet, and neither mk2 or mk3 armour had that neck-guard thing (the mk8 is the first).

Looks to me more like Aegis armour (they do have models with lines instead of round holes at the mouth), but there's no book with a sword symbol on the shoulder...

[Shuma]

Marines mix and match armor a lot, it could be a generic mk 6 or 7 armor with a neckguard and a mk3 helmet.

[Bowkers]

Squats confirmed, they weren't wiped out they just got held up at the forge world tavern

Brilliant.

Hopefully it wasn't called weatherspoons..

[@li3n]

Marines mix and match armor a lot, it could be a generic mk 6 or 7 armor with a neckguard and a mk3 helmet.

Thing is, the neckguard appears to have the same pattern on it as the Grey Knights do, which the normal mk8 neckguard doesn't have.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1250023_99060107050_INQGreyKnght1main_445x319.jpg

And it does look a lot like Relic's previous effort:

http://a160.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/115/l_511af810ce0207ac923b75be8216f5d7.jpg

And i just realised that in the above pic the sword through book is on the other shoulder then the one we see in that pic... so it must be a GK.

Of course that doesn't mean they're gonna be in the game, it might just be a cool background thing the artist added...

[TheV3ng3ance]

Its tuesday, You can release that info now.

[Flamerol]

Ruined- Squats confirmed, W00t ? OMG ,yeahhh space Dwarves FTW!

[Ruined]

I think they would be dead either via stabbing or food poisoning if they were in a wetherspoons all this time Bowkers. My new home away from home is much more hospitable it is a bar called Moz across the road from the offices

[Misterpeanut288]

So I am sure most of you have seen this by now but it looks like chaos is in (http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_li7lx85plJ1qgwg37o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1300474349&Signature=LCqTqW7ZgpeoU%2FDrehf%2BLwXARJY%3D) so we are looking at at least SM, IG, Chaos, and Orks.