Eye of Terror Campaign

[Master Chief]

I was just wondering, which side won the campaign? I never heard about it, and the Game Shop I go to didn't either. Who won?

[Hellscream]

no ones knows yet.

[Chaos Lord]

the cadian sector(the old cadians have moved to a nearby system) got taken by chaos tau gained a few more planets
it was a draw realy they cant make the chaos win or that would mean the end of the 40k games and it would be boring without chaos...

[Hellscream]

so the cadian warp gate in in Chaos hands now?

[Cailet]

No It's contested hard but currently they are stalemated on Cadia. Whoever takes Cadia will win and if Chaos destroy it they win but Ulthran managed to prevent the destruction (although the old berk got effectively killed himself).

[HeraldofNurgle]

Hmm, I don't think there are any chaos forces still on Cadia. I think you mean the two sides stalemated and chaos pulled out. I remeber checking the website after the campaign and Cadia was back firmly under Imperial control. Of course Cadia is pretty much just a ruin now, and a number of the other planets in the system were annihilated entirely.

In the long run it was a victory for the Imperium; Cadia still stands, Chaos suffered atrocious losses, and the passage into the Eye of Terror is still blocked for the Traitors.

[MacBeth]

yeah but fabius bile will make more chaos marines in a couple hundread years*sigh*

[Master Chief]

Okay, thanks. So Eldrad is almost dead?

[Ravenblade]

Eldrad was killed i believe, i think chaos still hold the cadia sector, just not the main planet of the cadia system, from i have read cadia still under seige by Chaos forces, but i didn't read the conclusion part of EOT campaign, so i probably wrong :sci:

[Abaddon]

ok Chaos did lose but it also achived a victory cadia stands alone, as it is now cut of due to warp storms or sumthing, the surronding systems are destroyed cut off or are now in Chaos control. This is from what my local games workshop told me. The Imperium did manage to stop them but at a very heavy price. so i think Abaddon got a psychological victory as well as killing a few million or so imperial troops and civs.

[King Raa]

Just a few million ey? Good job abbadon w00t.
Whats the situ with it atm cos I don't play ne more and a friend said the SM were getting pushed back n stuff....

[Valthar]

The Tau captured a good few worlds from what I heard,a pretty large part of the imperial sector they were next to.

[MacBeth]

well I read up on the after math,alot of the planets around cadia are pretty much dead,cadia is still being defended.the orks took over some forge world,ill look it up again.the tau took some imperial worlds.

and the dark angels still hold the ruins of caliban,and were rumored to have captured the voice of the emperor(cypher) but escaped while travelin to the rock. Lord castellan Ursarker Creed is rumored to have some resentment for the chpater who he believes would have helped the cadian defense if they didnt spend so much time at caliban(funny how that astroid belt is talked about as a planet).

[TheYarium]

Here's the laydown:

Chaos won, and took a bunch of planets outside of the Gate (Cadia). Cadia still stands, but only just - as most of the planet belongs to Chaos (Imperial forces forced to retreat to the smallest continent). The battle for Cadia will last centuries without aid... but if Chaos can gain headway in the space above Cadia, then the defenders will be doomed - especially with the Blackstone still there. Even without space aid, there's a large chance that simple supplies such as food will be unable to reach the defenders, and that the defenders will starve to death.

A new Daemon World exists, and it has taken the place of the planet Ulthor. It is now a gateway for vile forces of chaos, acting as a beacon to daemons of nurgle - the Lord who owns the planet. It is possible that whole armies will be able to emerge from this world, and the terror this could bring is unfathomable.

The campaign was not without its victories for the defenders though. For although Belis Corona - the greatest shipyards of the Imperium - are heavily infested with myriads of Tyranid organisms, the shipyards can be used - abliet at a fraction of normal capacity, such is their size. Also, the ruins of Caliban has been completely recaptured by the Dark Angels. Who can say what relics they've re-acquired?

The Orks, however, have taken a huge portion of Scarus sector - and the chances are that the sector will fall to the Orks. On the forgeworlds of this sector, hundreds of forms of Gargants are starting to take form as the Mekboyz race to complete their deadly god of a machine first. There are even rumours that this is spurring Mekboyz the galaxy over to begin construction of their own Gargants, and that this will cumulate in a Waa-Ork! Every thousand years, a massive collection of Waaghs begin and carve out new Ork empires, destroying hundreds of planets and enslaving hundreds more - and they all begin with a massive beginning of huge numbers of Gargants.

As for Eldrad Ulthran... the bravest and most noble leader of the Eldar since before the coming of She Who Thirsts, has perished. In a last-ditch effort to stop the Black Stone Fortress from crushing the defenders of Cadia and save the soul of the Fortress, he and a select few Warlocks teleported aboard. Within minutes all the Warlocks were drained of life by the Fortress's bottomless thirst, and when Eldrad reached out to try to touch the Eldar spirit at the core, he found only the actual power of Slannesh - her greatest daemon - and Eldrad's soul was sucked in and consumed.

The Chaos Victory at Cadia has just seen a new, and even more bleak time for the Imperium, when their power could collapse, and savage fighting amongst all races of the galaxy errupts!

[Starblade]

Hmmm, it sounds like my little Space Marine chapter is screwed.
Oh hell, there goes my Land Raider. Great, it landed on my last bunker. :lol:

Sounds like it's going to get very interesting...

[Brother Bethor]

Hmm, sounds like the return of my glorious Primarch draws nigh!

[MacBeth]

you mean the lion?
and hey,cadia didnt get much but the angels did.

[Master Chief]

Dang, Eldrad was cool...oh well. Time to play video games!

[NightBringer]

eehehehe, well i didn't know anything about the EoT campaine until now... thanks a bunch... it also adds a hell of a lot to my own fluff for my new traitor legion :P which turned to chaos during the campain!

[TwinBladez]

wel eldrad is not dead per se he is has just had his soul ripped from his body and put into the giant soul crystal in the blackstone fortress. THe imperium has 2 hopes:
1. Eldrad can destroy the blackstone from the inside and give many souls to the god of the dead
2.The legio custodies are roused to battle

[TheYarium]

It's not a giant soul-stone... it's Slannesh in there - it's She Who Thirsts, her greatest daemon. Once consumed, the souls vanish. Otherwise killing Dark Eldar would see explosions of souls - as they consume souls as well. Eldrad's gone. People need to accept that.

[Chaos Lord]

wow it seems my scorce of info was wrong...
what happened to those annoying little bugs knowen as the 'nids then?
did the imperium :smash: them or some thing

[Master Chief]

There are still other Eldar leaders, like the Phoenix Lords, the first Exarchs. There's also Iyanna Arienal from Iyanden and Nuadhu "Fireheart" from Saim-Hann. Eldrad was just the coolest.

[NightBringer]

i read thye EoT codex, and theres a story where eldrad is talking to someone called niadrien (sp) or someone, and at the end eldrad says "you are to be the young king"

does anyone know what thats suppose to mean? he this guy eldrads hier? which would mean eldrad knew that he was gonna die, but wasn't sure how?

can someone clearify that?

[Master Chief]

It means that Niadrien is going to be the next Avatar of the Bloody Handed God. It says that there, I believe. But, it's possible Eldrad knew he was going to die. He IS the greatest Farseer ever. He probably saw that choice as the best one. He said that he saw countless futures, all of them black. He most likely knew he would die.

[TheYarium]

As for info on the Nids... haven't heard a peep out of them since Eye of Terror official end results - where it stated that Tyranids attacked there. If you ask me, I'd say that it's become old news that the Tyranids are constantly gaining ground on the Imperium in huge portions of the galaxy. With all the resources moving to fight Chaos and the effects of Eye of Terror, the Tyranids have been left pretty much to do what they want. Something tells me that will soon change with new Tyranid codex being released February, and them being the main opponent in new boxed set when 4th edition comes out prior to that.

[SpinnerOfTales]

TwinBladez: The Legio Custodes aren't going ANYWHERE. Their sole duty is to guard the gates of The Emperor's Palace on Terra.

Also, The Avatar Khaine is a daemon, in essence, thus the subject of possession would always die. Same way with Chaos

[Cailet]

The Nids are the real threat these days. Read Hive Fleet Horror in the Dark Imperium anthology for the reason. Plus it's a cool story o/c

[Brother Bethor]

You know, I'm sorta lost here. I played Dark Angels a while back, then quit, but now I learn that not only has the Rock been recaptured, but apparently must also have been taken from the DA to begin with. I'm hopelessly behind. Anyone know of a good website where I can catch up? Also a good link to an up to date Eye of Terror website would be nice too. Thanks.

[Cailet]

The Rock has always been DA owned, Caliban the rock cloud that used to be the DA homeworld was contested in the campaign (most DA players only fought there instead of pulling their weight on Cadia.

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

You know, I'm sorta lost here. I played Dark Angels a while back, then quit, but now I learn that not only has the Rock been recaptured, but apparently must also have been taken from the DA to begin with. I'm hopelessly behind. Anyone know of a good website where I can catch up? Also a good link to an up to date Eye of Terror website would be nice too. Thanks.

I stopped between 94 and 2001, got back into it then but then had to stop in 2002 as i went abroad and only back now.

I can hardly remember anything :D

[TwinBladez]

well if the emperor wills it the legio custodies will move and yes there is a soul stone in the middle of the blackstone just its possesed by she who thirsts

[Captain Zog]

Back during the Heresey, squads of Custodes were sent to fight alongside armies, showing the Emperor's approval, even if they were sent to Cadia it would literally be about 100 of them for the entire sector, and even though they rock they could not do enough.

Chaos did win and its because the Chaos players roleplayed better, they set up councils of war and deceived the Loyalists with traitors (they created the whole voice of the Emperor story thread and the 'Green Kroosade' and GW took those bits of fluff and made them official) the loyalists just argued over where they should defend and didn't put their battles in the correct places

[Brother Bethor]

The Rock has always been DA owned, Caliban the rock cloud that used to be the DA homeworld was contested in the campaign (most DA players only fought there instead of pulling their weight on Cadia.

OK, but I've read on this forum people saying that Caliban was completely recaptured and that along with it the DA recaptured all of their artifacts. Also there are some people who think that Cypher has the Black Sword, which I understand to be Azrael's sword (badge of Supreme Grand Master-hood) or remotely possibly the Ravenwing sword. So I'm still a bit confused.

A link or two to a news site would be nice (Yahoo failed me). Thanks.

[MacBeth]

azreals swords in the sword of secrets,and the black blade is the black blade of luther,no one knows if he has that blade of the lion sword. and I doubt anyone can really take the rock,no one besides the dark angels know where it is,and its too big to storm.I think its the biggest ship in all the imperium.

[Ruskins]

hmm

*ponders if there is any artwork of the rock*

[FeloniousPunk]

Chaos did win and its because the Chaos players roleplayed better, they set up councils of war and deceived the Loyalists with traitors (they created the whole voice of the Emperor story thread and the 'Green Kroosade' and GW took those bits of fluff and made them official) the loyalists just argued over where they should defend and didn't put their battles in the correct places

Chaos organized? Sounds like an oxymoron... ;)

[TheYarium]

It's organized chaos! It's like having a crime business, a peaceful war, a progressive-conservative party, or an honest politician!

[Random Person]

what about the tau?????

[TheYarium]

The Tau... how can I say this nicely? (I'm not a fan of the Tau...)


The stood in their warzone and tried to look important by increasing the size of their empire by almost a third. Mind you, since that's a three-dimensional sphere, though the volume of it has increased, the actual diametre didn't increase too to much, and overall few infractions of Imperial space were made.

They failed in trying to look important.

That's why Orks and Tyranids never fought against the Tau; it just wasn't worth it because we knew that no one would really care except Tau players. Sorry, but it's the truth. I'm sure there's a new campaign in the brewing for them.

[TwinBladez]

on the sword of the lion: Cypher has it (look at the model he has a sword he never uses) And cypher is actually good because he warned cadia of an attack by making an attack of his own (no damage)

[mpjesse363]

it even states that he has the lions sword in the product description

[NightBringer]

there are also many quotes from interigated fallen angles saying how "cyphur will reforge the lions sword and we will be forgiven"... or something like that.

"That's why Orks and Tyranids never fought against the Tau; it just wasn't worth it because we knew that no one would really care except Tau players. Sorry, but it's the truth. I'm sure there's a new campaign in the brewing for them."

^^^^^^^^
you obviously know nothing about the tau then, yes they increased their empire by a third coz of the EoT, but the orks are always at war with the tau.

and the tyranids are attacking them, the tau empire is situated in the direct path of hive fleet kraken. read the tau codex (or if you have) goto the GW website and see the interactive tau map !

[Captain Zog]

He was meaning about how in the campaign, most ork and nid players put their victories in teh Cadian systems and ignored the Tau battles cos they, as players didn't give a damn what the Tau were up to, being much more interested in THE LARGEST INCURSION OF CHAOS INTO IMPERIAL SPACE SINCE THE HORUS HERESEY

[MacBeth]

was it a true victory for chaos? I mean he didnt destory cadia,he lost millions of his minions,he gained a couple planets,and can go threw the gates. wasent his main goal to destroy cadia?

[Cailet]

No-one is entirely sure but Cadia was a major objective for destruction because of the 'pylons' which disrupt the corrupt energies of the EoT and created the Cadian Gate.

[FerociousBeast]

on the sword of the lion: Cypher has it (look at the model he has a sword he never uses) And cypher is actually good because he warned cadia of an attack by making an attack of his own (no damage)

Cypher attacking makes him good? Seems to me he could have gotten the point across with a simple message, the old fashioned way. Cypher and the Fallen are BAD. They betrayed the Emperor and their own battle brothers (I am a true blue Dark Angel commander . . :))

Maybe Cypher's attack was just ineffectual . . . that explanation seems to make more sense . . .

[TwinBladez]

what part of Abbadon almost killing cypher for what he did did you not get and as a true Dark Angel would you have listened to him?

[NightBringer]

yeah cyphur made a feint attack on cadia, to get them to organise their defences and ave them a chance agasint abbadon, which really pissed off abaddon so he almost killed cyphur.

and the fallen angels are only bad in the eyes of the dark angels, they are literally the "unforgiven" as the DA call themselves, all they want is to be forgiven for what luther did and for following him, and they believe cyphur is the only one who can do that.

cadia was a big objective to abaddon, if he had destroyed cadia, then yeah that would be the end of the impirium and basically the end of the warhammer 40k universe (coz the POV of the game is humanity agaisnt everyone, so if humanity goes, so does the game). but seeing as now the forces of chaos can basically come and go into the real universe as they please, it will jsut make the 14th crusade have an even bigger chance of succeeding.

[FerociousBeast]

OK, if Cypher had tried to warn Cadia by an attack, and Abaddon found out about it, then he would not have almost killed Cypher. He would have killed him!! Come on, let's use our noggins.

A much more likely scenario: Cypher attacks Cadia, but the attack miserably fails, and unfortunately also warns the Cadians. Abaddon is enraged by the ruining of his plans and almost kills Cypher, but knowing that Cypher is still a valuable ally, lets him live.

And about fallen DAs just wanting forgiveness, why then is it so damn hard to get them to repent??? Asmodai, the most successful Interrogator-Chaplain ever has only five (or maybe three, can't remember) black pearls. One black pearl is given for each Fallen who is made to repent. Just read the DA Codex (any edition) for the story with Asmodai "interrogating" a captured fallen. Any doubts you still have will be quelled.

[Strybjorn]

Most of the Fallen were made to believe that the Imperium, mostly the Emperor and El'Jonson, turned their backs on those left behind. That fuelled their jealousy and rage. I for one can't wait to see what happens next. Being the avid Space Wolves player that I am, I know for sure that one thing stands in the way of Chaos. If you want to get from the eye to Terra, you have to go past the Fang. And if has never fallen...

[MacBeth]

even thougth cyher joined luther in the betrayel as all the fallen did,he emay have just be used like the rest were,there are few dark angels who have given into chaos,most are now pirates/mercs,some others live out there life as just anthor person in the crowd. but cypher,even though Im a fan of the dark angels,may save the empire,when games workshop end 40k Im sure the dark angels and the fallen if they remain will have a huge part in it.

and cypher normally fights on the good side,and trys to help the imperium and trys avoid his vengful brothers.I like to think that he has the lion blade and he will get to the emperor and reforge the sword,but if we capture him and make him repent or die in the process,thats all good.

and if I remeber right,asmodai has two beads. and the most ever gained by one chaplain(cant remeber his name) he got 8 beads in 300 years.

[Abaddon]

I would say that most of the Fallen want to repent but have you seen how the Dark angels forgive them? from what i know alot of them did repent not long after their betrayel and some fought with the Loyal ones against the fallen to gain forgiveness.

[NightBringer]

when games workshop end 40k Im sure the dark angels and the fallen if they remain will have a huge part in it.

most likely, along with the eldar. it'll probably be in about 10 years time, they release the last ever version of the game and at the end, its a huge campaine with every race against chaos (and/or) the C'Tan. cyphur playing a huge part, by reforging the lion sword, reuniting the entire DA chapter (fallen and "unforgiven") killing the emporer to supercharge the star-child, who with the help of the eldar, finally defeat chaos (the C'Tan helpning in their own strange way) then an all on C'Tan battle which destroys the galaxy (tho the orks somehow survive and move onto another hehe) and the tyranids get pissed off coz theres no life left ot devour, and move on aswell

[FerociousBeast]

Unfortunately, Warhammer 40k is billed as "gothic sci-fi horror". If it does end, it ain't gonna end pretty for the humans. If it had been billed as gothic sci-fi suspense, then the humies might have a chance. But really, I don't think the Imperium stands much of a chance. And really, I'm not so sure it deserves to. The only really good thing (morally) that the humans have going for them are the Space Marines (mostly) and the poor Imperial Guard. The government itself is just about as nasty as anything else in the universe.

But anyway, back on to Cypher.

Abaddon: yes, the Dark Angels don't forgive very nicely, but each captured fallen is given a choice: 1) repent and be granted a quick, painless death or 2) don't repent and be purified by pain. These fallen are so completely opposed to repenting that the VAST majority of them choose to be tortured to death rather than repent. Doesn't sound like they want forgiveness all that much to me.

MacBeth: "even thougth cyher joined luther in the betrayel as all the fallen did,he emay have just be used like the rest were," The key word in this phrase is may. People like to come right out and say that Cypher is obviously a good guy, but unfortunately no one knows but the Emperor on his throne and the folks at GW at their desks.

Strybjorn: "Most of the Fallen were made to believe that the Imperium, mostly the Emperor and El'Jonson, turned their backs on those left behind. That fuelled their jealousy and rage." Anyone capable of believing both their Primarch and Emperor are at fault are text book heretics. /inquisition mode off :)

Relating to Cypher: I just had a thought while reading posts about Cypher on this message board. Apparently Cypher commands great respect and devotion among the Fallen. Maybe the reason Cypher is so lucky and able to escape so much is that the Dark Angels let him. Knowing that the Fallen flock to his banner, capturing him becomes quite a harvest of Fallen, as most of the Fallen with him are captured as well. Then they let him escape so he can gather up some more, making their job much easier. Just a thought/conspiracy theory :)

[MacBeth]

I think that the empire will go on,chaos will be banished for a good while,the orks will be still on their rampage,the necrons will escape there metal bodys and kill off the c'tan,the elder will claim some of there worlds again,and still have problems with the empire,the tau will proably make a foot hold on some system,cypher if he hasent been really caught will get to the emperor and reforge the sword which will start a new era for the humans and stop chaos.and if the emperor can be friendly to the xenos they may be able to form some kind of peace.
I cant guess what happens to the nids.
this is just a guess.

and about cypher,I just like to think that he's good,im not stomping my foot down like its true.and I think the the lion or the emperor makes cypher hard to get,even when he is caught he gets away,it happened in the EOT campaign and he still got away.

and he seems to annoy abaddon alot.

[FerociousBeast]

"and about cypher,I just like to think that he's good"

I can live with that -- though I, as a loyal member of the Inner Circle, must disagree ;)

[MacBeth]

im a angel too and would hunt cypher down if the chance,just its a nice thought when not hunting the fallen.

[TwinBladez]

2 things on why abbadon did not kill cypher
1. He is too useful to him
2.Hmm Cypher almost dying whatever will he do, oh yeah use the sword of the lion

[eat pie]

alright im actually a fallen player (use chaos rules THERE STILL loyalist fallen though)
FerociousBeast
i suggest you read the book angels of darkness because almost half of this book is a chaplin interragating a Fallen Dark Angel, and the sample they have in the codex is from a CHAOS fallen not loyalist. Loyalist fallen still follow the emporer and will try to improve the life's of the imperiums citizens wether its by protecting them or removing curropt officals loyalist fallen DO FOLLOW THE EMPORER but they do feel that the lion betrayed them.

[MacBeth]

we found one,grab eat pie he's a fallen,make him repent!lol

the fallen are misinformed good guys,most of them at least.even though cypher is a fallen and is part of the angels shame,he could save the imperium and reforge the lion sword,but I would still hunt him.