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BaronVonSnakPak
28th Jul 04, 11:20 PM
i know alot of people are going to say "imperial guard vs. tyranids!" but it would be cool to get an honest to goodness starship troopers mod.

you could use the imperial guard in the game already, but change their skinds just a little, and give them the berretta assault rifle instead of the lasrifle. bugs would obviously be the 2nd race, and skinnies (think tau) could be the third race.

gameplay modes would be standard base building types, search and destroy bug holes, and alamo last stands.

im really not a coder, a modeller or anything along those lines, but im juust throwing the idea out there because i feel itd be pretty freakin cool.

Starlord
29th Jul 04, 1:54 AM
Baron, PLEASE do yourself a favor and read a book by Robert A. Heinlein. It's entitled "Starship Troopers." TRUST ME, It's a whole lot better than the movie. Don't worry, it's actually quite short, and a really quick read.

Fend
29th Jul 04, 1:58 AM
Correction : Morita Smart rifle

:) Yeah, about FRICKING time someone Asked this. you just got your first fan, if you can get this mod up and running.

oh, Make New Troopers, reskinning would be gay. remeber, DOW Wont have room for crappy skins, as Zoom ins come Up close and personal like.

Also, they had Light Rifles AND Moritas so yeah, the Lasgun may do well for first release... atleast. Hrmm. If you did make such a mod... think of the SHEER animation work needed to be put into the Arachnid Warriors :|

lol, ultimate Starship Trooper weapon : the Roach motel.

or a can of Baygon. hahaah

King Raa
29th Jul 04, 2:24 AM
oho a book of it? where abouts? and what are skinnies? - (i'm nota fan lol)
cud be gd tho

Richtofen
29th Jul 04, 2:40 AM
Does Rico nuke 'em in the book?? If not, no fun

Cailet
29th Jul 04, 6:00 AM
I don't think there is a rico in the book (never read it). I wanna see Aliens and Marines in this as well, could you do that by re-skinning (and animating) Bugs and troopers? If so that would be cool.

Schlock
29th Jul 04, 7:46 AM
Yes Rico IS in fact in the book and yes he does nuke ppl.

In the book the basic CAP troop (MI) goes into battle by loading him self into a capsule (Note CAP troops) that is then fired out of a cannon on a ship.

The Capsule hits the atmoshpere of the planet and begins to break up creating chaff to hide where our infantryman is. (I.E. so pieces of debree get hit instead of the M.I.)

After varius chutes are activated and broken off the suit finaly blows open at a few miles.

Then hes just a normal paratrooper (In power armor) until he pops his chutes and use's his jump jets to land.

Now we have a soldier with a Flame thower, Infer-red vision,Missle launcher with ammo of differnt types,Hand bombs,Napalm pills, And every so often a Tac nuke with a little less then 2 kilotons.

The Bugs in the Book had ships and had laser weapons.

I won't tell you any more so just go out and buy it for about ten bucks at most. its only a little more then 200 pages. not very long and a good read.

P.S. Paul Verhoeven Sucks :disgust:

Mryddlin
29th Jul 04, 10:12 AM
The book is freaking awesome, I love all of his work.

The book is more of a discussion on why to fight etc than there is action but it's a great read and the action scenes are a lot of fun.

The movie sucked ass. They weren't even the MOBILE infantry since they walked every where (they were called the M.I. on the book since every trooper could cover huge distances quickly).

would be a cool mod, these troopers would be similar to SM with jumpjets.

BaronVonSnakPak
29th Jul 04, 11:06 AM
Baron, PLEASE do yourself a favor and read a book by Robert A. Heinlein. It's entitled "Starship Troopers." TRUST ME, It's a whole lot better than the movie. Don't worry, it's actually quite short, and a really quick read.

i read the book a few times before i saw the movie. where else would i get the idea for the skinnies?

edit: for the record i actually loved the book and the movie. the overall b feeling of it, the amazing special effects, and the incredible battle scenes made me a fan. even though its LOOSELY based on the book, i still loved it.

Schlock
29th Jul 04, 11:37 AM
I probably would hold the same feelings as you if they just had'nt called it Starship Troopers. I find hard to believe that to any degree its based on hienlens books.(They just called SST for the name nothing more....just like the newBooby star Galatica)

BaronVonSnakPak
29th Jul 04, 12:06 PM
well, they did have refrences to heinliens future nazistic governement in the movie:

-service garauntess citizenship
-sky marshalls
-taking lashes in the public square for punishment

Starlord
29th Jul 04, 12:17 PM
well, they did have refrences to heinliens future nazistic governement in the movie:

-service garauntess citizenship
-sky marshalls
-taking lashes in the public square for punishment


But was it really a "Nazistic" Govt? I don't really think so, the franchise may have been dependent on military service, but if you reread the section of the book where Johnnie is in OCS, and his teacher is talking about the govts of the XXth century (ours included) some of what he's saying starts to make sense, about using the wolves of society as the sheepdogs, and about the massive problem our society has with crime and punishment.

BaronVonSnakPak
29th Jul 04, 1:27 PM
But was it really a "Nazistic" Govt? I don't really think so, the franchise may have been dependent on military service, but if you reread the section of the book where Johnnie is in OCS, and his teacher is talking about the govts of the XXth century (ours included) some of what he's saying starts to make sense, about using the wolves of society as the sheepdogs, and about the massive problem our society has with crime and punishment.

the background checking i did on the book and heinlien shows that he was in favor of the ways that communists operated, and nazis to a degree as well. the federation he created in starship troopers was a combination of both.

"you serve for the greater good, you get more rewards than those that dont. you steal, we cut off your hand. you question what youre fighting for, we whip you."

that type of thinking.

Schlock
29th Jul 04, 1:47 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i don't think he was going out to imitate nazi germany when he made the book.

The terrain federation seems to run on the concept that you

must work and sweet for citizenship.

That to deal with Rampaging kids you lash them publicly before they do something serious.

I didnt get the feeling any one was beaten up by an elite SS force.

and I don't recal thier being any gulogs.

And about the citezenship thing.

Well i suppose its better then a biolagical monarchy.

Any way i think this mod will be realy fun when it comes out :beer: Tac nukes gonna be a bit hard to put in though.

Grendel Rose
30th Jul 04, 10:15 PM
Starship troopers (the movie) made me want to kill people, all those poor, poor people in the theatre, oh well at least it was quick, i think. Seriously though if anyone does a mod please for the love of god base it off the book, or I will hunt you down and hang you with your own tongue.

Schlock
30th Jul 04, 10:28 PM
Starship troopers (the movie) made me want to kill people, all those poor, poor people in the theatre, oh well at least it was quick, i think. Seriously though if anyone does a mod please for the love of god base it off the book, or I will hunt you down and hang you with your own tongue.

Right on,Right on.

TheGodOfWar
2nd Aug 04, 11:25 AM
The ONLY thing i liked about the movie was that it did not shy away from blood and gore, otherwise it was complete crap.

ANARCHY666
25th Sep 04, 2:52 AM
i want this mod

death_ab
25th Sep 04, 4:00 AM
Two words.

Roughneck Cronicals...

Though uprated power armour would be nice, those skinsuits were kinda small

Think terminators with jump packs to get the basic idea of what REAL MI troopers use.

Nifty
25th Sep 04, 6:08 AM
Technically isnt doing a "starship troopers" mod illegal? Maybe call it "Starship [something]".

Any modellers and skinners interested in this? I could probably code for it [only studied the code for a week but i think i get the jist!]

[edit] Oh and who cares about the political orientation of the freakin story?! I just wanna see a few hundred bugs get smattered by molten lead. Oh the gore....

But imagine the hand to hand special moves we could incorperate... Skewered marines, bugs legs flying off etc...

GRIMGORGRIMGOR
25th Sep 04, 6:31 AM
You could just buy starship troopers the game it like DOW but you cant build any thing. But a lot more weapons and armour.

The Collector
25th Sep 04, 7:17 AM
If only we could borrow models from that SST game (Terran Ascendancy).

Ennui
25th Sep 04, 7:28 AM
The problem with doing all these movie-related and game-related mods is that there are always legal issues, and a lot of times the mod gets shut down halfway into development.

Though I'd love to see a SST mod, or something a lot like it.

ANARCHY666
26th Sep 04, 8:49 AM
since there'll probably be loads of aliens on a screen you need slightly bigger maps
and the aliens shouldn't be to high-poly because not everyone has an x800 :P

Caboose
8th Oct 04, 10:46 AM
I remember the series too. They looked so much cooler in that and the weapons were so much better. If your gonna make the mod base it on the series!!!!!!!!!

SvK
8th Oct 04, 11:09 AM
Don't suggest a mod if you can't make it.