Lemme borrow that...

[sajuukar]

Blurb, just a boring ridiculously hot day here in Palo Alto... which sparked boredom in my mind, sparking some thought, sparking an idea, sparking the idea to post my idea, sparking the action of posting here :D

Might seem like this topic was done, and similar ones have indeed been done, but this thought wasn't brought up...

Well, N E ways, my thought was this: According to quantum physics, there is a lot of stuff (stuff being subatomic particles) appearing and dissapearing randomly throughout the universe all the time, right? So what if it were possible to somehow make a machine that was able to "borrow" energy from the universe, and keep it unless the container keeping the energy/matter in existance was destoryed, in which case the shockwave would proly consume the amount of stuff equivilant to the amount of energy/matter that was borrowed, so extreme caution should be taken. Then again, this dangerous side effect could be used as a weapon...

What would make this possible/impossible?

Just a thought...

:angel:

[oneredpanther]

i fail to see how random creation and annihilation of quantum particles has anything to do with "borrowing" energy and storing it.

Investigate Quantum Mechanical Tunneling, which along similar lines, but not really useful in the way you describe.

Physicists are looking into Zero Point energy, the energy derived from quantum fluctuations in 'empty' space, but it's not useful as a storable power source yet. (if ever?)

Zero Point energy doesn't "borrow" energy - it uses it's own hunk of space.... it doesn't even mail-order fresh energy when it runs out. interesting stuff.

Think I understand the basics of it, but applying that knowledge in the context of this discussion is many years of study and a university degree away from me at the present time.

[sajuukar]

What I'm thinking combines all that stuff... the zero point fluctuations are supposed to be significantly increased some how enough so that each little mountain (the positive and negative wavelength in the space-time fluctuation) can be seperated, sort of causing a man-made creation of two particles that if they met, would annihalate one another. So it isn't actually random creation and annihalation, it's controlled, and you use the positive extracted stuff, and store the negative stuff (for future destructive use, or maybe to get rid of garbage...???).

So the real problem is, how on Earth do you seperate two ridiculously tiny particles ridiculously quick so that they don't meet???

Does this make sense at all???

[Kheturus]

Sorry, you must have mistaken this board with one which has a lot of physicists who could answer that question intelligently. We around here are armchair physicists who play video games and make up new ideas which sound cool and technical but have no scientific backing.

Sorry if there was any confusion.

[skywalker]

Except for the word "relativity", which acts as a magnet and attracts panther at a very high velocity. :)

[Tygre]

You think too much, SQ.

[Beast]

Originally posted by skywalker
Except for the word "relativity", which acts as a magnet and attracts panther at a very high velocity. :)
OMG you said the word...eeek run away!

[oneredpanther]

ROFLMFAO

damn right.


We around here are armchair physicists who play video games and make up new ideas which sound cool and technical but have no scientific backing.
looks like Khet's discovered the real truth behind the vast store of physics knowledge on the boards. gg. :rolleyes:

[Harmanoff]

Must've been a though one to crack...