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Tygre
24th May 02, 6:04 PM
Recently my dad installed XP professional on our home system. Shortly afterward, he decided to make my account a limited user, in which I could change no system configurations.
For some strange reason, programs have inexplicably stopped working one by one. Nothing is being installed, nothing is being removed...one day it works, the next day it never works again.
I'm missing HW so much I'm actually in physical pain. I know it sounds bad, but it's true. Same with a girl I knew a year ago...but that's a different story altogether. Quitting HW cold-shoulder is causing me emotional distress.
PLEASE help me...at least give me some persuasive tactics to use against my untrusting father. He hates me on the computer because he saw me post about Natalie Portman and use a "colorful metaphor"-- namely the "hot as h311" thing. Gah...
*edit* so now I've done the compatibility mode and got the CD thing to work...unfortunately, all it plays is the first two movies and then quits to desktop. I disabled AVI with the command line thing but it still doesn't work.
Clint
24th May 02, 6:28 PM
sit in the corner, holding yourself while rocking gently back and forth humming old elton john songs.
should get you through it.
clint
Tygre
24th May 02, 6:34 PM
I think the final straw was when a gigantic epic space battle broke into my mind in the middle of an exam today...I failed it.
I must fix this now.
ÜberJumper
24th May 02, 7:36 PM
Try adding the /sw command line switch.
If that fails, try /safegl /nodebugint /nofastfe /noswddraw /noglddraw.
If that fails, re-install directx 8.1
If that fails, re-isntall your video card drivers and directx 8.1
Let us know if it doesn't work.
Tygre
25th May 02, 8:42 PM
I tried the first two...they failed.
The last two won't work because:
1. I have no video card.
2. I can't install anything.
This is really pissing me off. It's all because of my inept father...
ÜberJumper
26th May 02, 9:37 AM
Well you do have a video card... but anyway.
Try adding the /dsound (or alternately the /waveout) command line switches.
Also, since you are on XP, make sure you have it set to Windows NT 4.0 SP5 for compatibility and not something else.
ÜberJumper
6th Jun 02, 7:47 AM
Be advised that the /sw switch will reset your video mode every time you start Homeworld. So if you get it working, try to remove that switch for next time.
If that didn't work:
1) Ask your dad to give you a higher-level account
2) Reformat with 98SE (or whatever you were using before) and hope he doesn't notice
3)Guess his password (it's not that hard... "accidentally" watch him type it in). Then reset it :devil:
:jk:
*bows*
Vaarok
12th Jun 02, 8:15 AM
partitioning. Have your own little corner of the hard drive, set it for win98 emulation on boot, and try that.
carrera6
13th Jun 02, 2:27 PM
It is impossible for Homeworld to work in any version of XP.
I spent 3 to 4 hours a day for about a week trying to get it to work, uninstalling, reinstalling, everything and it would not work.
Sorry Man.
ÜberJumper
13th Jun 02, 2:40 PM
carrera6 What are you talking about? It works fabulously on XP. There's dozens of users on these forums that use XP to play Homeworld
All you have to do is set the compatibility mode to Windows NT 4.0 SP5 and it rocks (specifically this helps enable OpenGL).
Tygre's problem appears to be that he's unable to check or update his drivers because he doesn't have permissions.
carrera6
13th Jun 02, 2:43 PM
I went to every setting and tried everything to get it to work, and even now, when I use 98SE, it still won't work. The game must hate me or something.
:(
ÜberJumper
13th Jun 02, 2:47 PM
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=49320#post49320
Tygre
18th Jun 02, 2:20 PM
well, i remembered there's an amazing but easily forgotten miracle called a PATCH...which is apparently required to play the game now. Anyway, I installed that, and the game works halfway-decently.
Now, though, I would like to run the game in d3d, which works better and faster than sw or GL (for me anyway). I was able to run it in d3d before XP was installed (DirectX 8.1 coming with it), but now it isn't an option in the menu. I ran the dx diagnostic tool and it turns out that direct3d is unavailable...
So, to that I say...WTF?!? I want my d3d now! If it's not one thing, it's another. What do I need to do to enable d3d? I tried forcing it with the /device d3d switch but it crashed when I tried to start a game.
Still frustrated...
ÜberJumper
18th Jun 02, 2:40 PM
OMG you didn't patch it? OMG I'm so kicking myself for ASSuming that you originally had HW working on XP and it stopped. I kept thinking "Can't be the patch, it was working before".
Please post a complete system spec so we can properly figure out what's wrong (MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE I DIDN'T DO THIS FIRST).
CPU
Memory
Motherboard
Primary Video Card
Secondary Video Card, if you have one IE: Voodoo1 or 2
Sound Card
CDRom Drives (DVD, CDR etc)
Additional Hardware
Operating System and Version
Direct X version.
Homeworld video mode and resolution.
Desktop video mode and resoultion.
Homeworld Version
Please include hardware driver versions if possible
Tygre
18th Jun 02, 2:53 PM
I had it patched before…I suppose I reinstalled it…srry! Boy, do you feel stupid.
K, this ain’t pretty:
CPU: Intel Pentium II MMX ~333MHz
Memory: 256 MB RAM
Motherboard: ?
Primary Video Card: ?
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster PCI
CDRom Drives (DVD, CDR etc): Matshita DVD-ROM SR-8582
Operating System and Version: Microsoft Windows XP 5.1
Direct X version: 8.1
Homeworld video mode and resolution: Software, 800x600
Desktop video mode and resoultion: 16bit, 1024x768
Homeworld Version: 1.05
I’m not entirely sure where to find the motherboard type in the device manager, and I have no video card that I know of, other than the one Uber vaguely reffered to. This piece of crap machine is pissing the hell out of me…I hate being a hardware/driver/upgrade/etc illiterate failure. I can work the damn thing, but not fix it. Shee-yat.
ÜberJumper
18th Jun 02, 3:21 PM
Go into the device manager (Winkey+pause) and look for your video card in there.
Chances are you may be stuck with OpenGL if your card isn't supported with D3D in WinXP.
Tygre
18th Jun 02, 3:29 PM
Forget it. I'll just go buy a new video card or something.
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