New Vehicle: Speeder Bikes

[ANARCHY666]

Offen used in WH 40K for it's speed
Several different weapons can be mounted (there ya go, 3 upgrade already in this idea)
Think of Flamer (this time really devastating for morale), think heavy bolter or assault cannon and think missile launcher

Anyone up for it?
I can try skinning but modelling is a real no go for me.
I do have several pictures of them and they can also be found on the official Games Workshop site.

[assy]

Think about it, how will Bikes work in CloseCombat? Will they stand and the pilot fight from his vehicle. Or like Horses they cut trough the lines fight short and after a few meters behind the line they turn and make the next run?

The first option is this like you see it in the TT and would be simple to implement.
The second will very much complicated and the units waste time with driving and turning and the fights will be very(!) short. I thinks this will make the bikes useless.

Greets
Assy

[Sgt.Swampy]

Think about it, how will Bikes work in CloseCombat?

Like Land Speeders?

[Mahu]

assy, I would be the first option just considering the game machanics. This is all an animation problem. Would a Dred pick up a bike and its rider to do its finishing move? It could mork if there is way way to turn of "finishing" animation for particular units. Have the bikes act as infantry but fight in close combat like vehicles.

[Lord Dante]

gah I hate space marine bikes - eldar bikes i can accept but SM bikes a re throw back to the GW's gothic rockers era. get rid of em they are silly IMO.

[assy]

Yes mahu, game mechanics and animation..
this is why Relic didnt implement Bikes.

I have nothing against Bikes, i am not sure if i would use them.
I am pretty sue if some gets this done it will look great!
My post was only to show thats its not dome with implement a new unit like copes of other squads with other options.
There is no similar to bikes in the game yet, and to get these in it will be big deal!

@ Lord Dante
lol
Its true what you say, i think also they are useless in modern/future combat.

In some Thread some guy said a true word: the Maps are to small for most Transport options.
I use only LRs for my Termis, this works very fine, but the other troops are to fast to get bikes usefull. May be usefull if we make other units slower, so Bikes get a usefull tactical option.
And if you think about Bikes, then you must think about the trikes!

In TTs all my Bikes units are gone, they killed never the points which they costs me....

[Lord Dante]

Yeah the problem i see with this game and SM transport is most men can walk as fast as rhino - and its not like a Rhino can weather the storm of fire comming at it to smash through enemy lines to well either.
LR on the other hand are cool, but essentially deep strike or assult marines seem more efficant.

Tho im more of defensive turret junky myself with 9 man squads of space marines all with rockets and all tureets firing rockets. a few dreadnaughts for tieing up CC units... thats a different topic of course!

[CadianShocker]

Bikes rule, they should act like landspeeders able to use terrain to jump over things(VERY UNLIKELY) upgrade to attack bike (side carage with hvy bolter) sergeant has a chain sword and others can have a gun as well as the 2 bolters on the bike like in TT

And Dante, my bikes are brillinat. I love them my army has 3 squads including attack bikes and they kicked ass against my mates ork army, killed his leader and 2 complete squads in two moves.

[CadianShocker]

Bikes should ram the enemy knocking them down like what that big ork beastie thing does.

[Cyberjankie]

Would a Dred pick up a bike and its rider to do its finishing move?

? I've never seen, what the Dreads finishing move vs a LandSpeeder looks like... but I think, because the LandSpeeders work ingame, so why Bikes shouldn't, too?

[ShrikesTalons]

SM Bikes are pretty much made for capturing tabletops, objectives and that sort of "tactical stuff". But they can be used for killing light amoured infantry like cadianshocker said. I only use them for getting into a good position and assaulting dangerous squads that isnt good in CC like devastator squads. If you lock them in CC the opponent has wasted ALOT of points :beer: Their nasty 20" move (after which they cannot shoot or assault) makes them just perfect for tactical use!

[tos death]

really what you have to do is just take the ppl from the land speeders and make the models for the bikes and put them in it:) well unless the ppl in the landspeeders arent sitting down then never mind what i said.

[ShrikesTalons]

yeah thats true, the landspeeder is probably the best model to edit into a bike... But what about CC, can't you make it do some vehicle CC actions (the "driver)? like the dreadnought. The die motion will be bit tricky but why not just the bike explodes and the dude on it gets blown away?

Btw you cannot open the landspeeder model, right?

[Akujin]

Mr Guybrush did make a rather nice SM bike model (textured iirc). Not sure what happened to that tho.

[SSdraken]

gah, who says bikes are bad?
Just don't say it in front of me, I'm a white scars player :D

oh, and it looks like somebody didn't read the rules - not suprised that they got bannned. Bikes in DoW would be nice, but not really feasable. Make something cooler!

[tos death]

well really bikes will just be another fast attack just faster then land speeders. SSdraken if you want somthing cooler how about a attack bike!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[TheWhiteRider]

I give bikes the thumbs up because it would be a very good Scout/strong unit that could move fast unlike the S.M scouts. Bikes couldnt move over imassable terrain but could use melta bombs and have a couple upgrades such as " Meltagun, Plasmagun, Powersword, Boltpistol, Heavybolter {AttackbikeMK2}, MultiMelta {AttackbikeMK2}. so as you see the bikes give a variety to the game and allow a more free flow because an army isnt complete without a fast attack.

[Rudy86]

Well i would apreciate some bikes. They where a realy good help in TT.
So cant see why they would be useless here.

If i could model/animate i would love to help, but i cant so........

[The Monkey]

Hes banned guys

[SvK]

It's also a really old thread. Locked.