Homeworld 2 Complex 8.4.3

[vivac]

can u guys tell me how this mod change the game's RU system in memorys.
i mean in originally game use a generic game hack program like cheat engine,can easily
frozen the RU by search quadruply the number display in game.but in Complex 5.5 this don't work,dose the multiple changed or what? appreciation for any info.

[rhcreed]

Thanks all, the suggestions were perfect.

Focused on getting ms up and full and built the fleet around her.

Dominated, now I will try more, smarter AI and hopefully a real person down the road.

I'll keep my eyes open for 6.0

Have a good one!

[DJ Die]

AI is stupid nothing compares to beating real person that uses other tactics than just throwing all he has at you

[Skandalos]

AI in Complex mod is easy to beat. Playing Vaygr its no problem to beat two or even three teamed AI opponents on expert level.

[StwS]

Hey,

first of all, great mod. The second mod I ever got for HW2 (I got modernisation first)

Anyway, what's happening with this September release I keep reading about? Is it coming soon? I have been checking the Homeworld2Complex website fervently every day, sometimes even twice or three times a day, just waiting for the release of Complex 6.

Does anyone know whether the AI will be made better in this version. In my games they tend to just wait around, building battlecruisers, waiting for me to make a move. It strikes me that even after reaching the higher stages of development (battlecruisers) they should still build fighters, corvettes, frigates, and destroyers, rather than just spamming the production of battlecruisers. Unfortunately, a fleet of massed battlecruisers is too easy to do. the officer and crew requirements for a battlecruiser are just too low to make it worth only building one or two. And with the current AI, if you don't spam BC's, then you will probably lose, because the AI DOES spam their BC's

I believe that the mod would be much better if:
a) The crew and officer requirements for capital ships were reviewed, so that capital ships required much more crew and officers than currently (the maximum crew ammount would need to be increased, of course, though the offficer cap could probably stay the same)
b) The AI was adjusted so that they built a more varied fleet.

I am not saying that the mod isn't good how it is, though these two changes would make the mod great, in my opinion. Nevertheless, the Complex team has done an amazing job. And besides, if these changes aren't made to Complex 6, perhaps I will learn to make them myself, though I don't really know how at the moment. Lol, think of that, a mod for a mod...

So, beghins, could you please give us a closer estimate at a release date? And perhaps comment on the changes I have mentioned.

[Admiral Nelson]

Let's see... 30 days - 5 days = 25 days left in September! What a surprise! Seriously, StwS, lay off for at least that long. Also remember that mods are time consuming projects and these people have (believe it or not) other demands on their time and effort.

[StwS]

Yeah, I know there is still heaps of time left in September, it was more to show my interest than to say that I am annoyed, or that I wan't him to hurry up. I understand that if the release is rushed, the product will not be as good. I was just hoping that beghins would disclose a release date for us...

No matter, I will wait, I have a couple of assignments I have to do for uni anyway... And besides, my new computer is out of action for the moment, and my old one has trouble running HW2...

[Babbo]

StwS, did you try the expert level?

[StwS]

I think so, it has been a while since I played complex.

If I finish this ICT107 assignment early enough today, I will give it a shot (on expert that is)

Does expert make them more agressive?

Just curious though. Whenever I try to face multiple oponents who are in the same team, the game crashes while it loads. Does anyone else have this problem, can anyone suggest a solution to it?

[DJ Die]

expert AI is bit better but not very good anyway because it always will be AI
and please dont touch crew requirements of ships its fine as it is it takes long time to build BC anyway and you have to build weapons on it after that which takes time too

what are you PCs specs? maybe its too slow for it

[Skandalos]

Am I the only one who encounters lots of crashes? Every second game crashes to desktop.

[Babbo]

I dont know ... but, for your interest, crashes have been reported. However (this is my view), they rarely occur, above all, during a game. On the other side, CsTD are a known issue, when loading a (saved) game. In that case a simple re-load (re-start) will solve the problem. All in all, no, there are not many CstD.

Your PC specs?

[Komo'val]

Actually it happened to me, but only once. One time out of what, over 100. A crash could occur when the virtual memory gets overloaded so tech specs would be good, as Babbo said.

[DJ Die]

we get crashed sometimes when starting MP games i suspect its because my friend has quite slow machine while my PC loads game very fast

[Skandalos]

I only play vs cpu (at the moment trying to beat a team of 4 AI expert opponents).

Specs: AMD 2500+ Barton Core, 1 Gig RAM, Win XP sp2, GF6800GT, Audigy2

Those crashes happen under arbritary circumstances. Pretty exactly 50% of all games crash.

So if no one else is having similar problems I guess it is my hardware.

[beghins]

A lot of my time has been spent to fix crash and to improve the game stability; Complex 6.0 at the moment is crash free and it run very fast, even with tons of ships (5.5 has a lot of crash and it run slow in many machines).
I'm ready to post a release date, I still think Complex 6.0 will be in September.
Thankx for updating this forum, I've few time for post and keep the forum updated, my silence only means that we're working.

[Babbo]

Thanks for the note. I'm really looking forward to experiencing Number 6! However, I do that with mixed feelings ... cause I believe that you/beghins announced it as the last version of Complex.

P.S.: Skandalos, your PC hardware should be fine. (But you may have a look at your modules ... I mean those one of Windows ...)

[Komo'val]

Good to hear that. As Babbo as I have mixed feelings. on one side it's the awesomeness ofv6 that I can't wait to play, on the other the realization that this will be the last release of the complex series. But i think the first side outweighs the second.

[StwS]

what are you PCs specs? maybe its too slow for it

Intel Core2Duo E6850 3GHz 1333MHz FSB 4MB L2 Cache
2GB DDR-2 800 RAM
320MB nVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS
Windows Vista Business

HOWEVER. This computer isn't working at the moment due to PSU problems, so I am currently using a:

AMD Sempron 3000+ 1.8GHz
512MB DDR 400 RAM
(lol, this is pathetic I know) 128MB ATI Radeon 9200
Windows XP Professional

*sigh* I just need to save a bit longer so I can get a new PSU. ^_^

P.S. Thanks beghins for your update ^_^ much appreciated.

[Homdax]

I am sorry if someone asked about this previously, but I am playing a bit and the ships actually explode (unintentionally) when the get too close to relics. Lost two frigates in 30 seconds due to that. Is it intentional and does it occur when the space get to crowded (was a bit of a tight spot) or what are the conditions?

[DJ Die]

StwS: that could be it i had simmilar problems on my Athlon 1700+ but on this PC(E6600,2GBram,GF7900GTX) it works just fine

HomeBoy:yeah i think collison detection is turned on and sometimes you loose ships because of it ive once lost MS because stupid BC of my enemy rammed it

Beghins:nice to hear you still work on mod and hope 6.0 will be even better than great 5.5

[Skandalos]

Really looking forward to 6.0.

@Babbo
What Windows modules do you have in mind that could cause such CTD?

[Babbo]

@Skandalos: Those ones which are resident and usually occupy lots of memory: anti virus, parts of MS office or internet clients. Just go to your task manager and, step-by-step, kill questionable processes. Naturally, do that with a touch of caution :D. And check your services list and shut down senseless modules (google ...).

@StwS: PSUs aren't that expensive ... and your E6850 configuration will do an excellent job; currently, your 9200er is definitely the brake.

@Home: I don't know if that's intention, but it occurs occasionally, I never realized any system though (lost a BC without any visual hint ... totally healthy, no mines no considerable enemy ... just boom).

@DJ Die: "collision detection", please tell me about that feature, is it something a user can influence in some way or just a modder?

[Komo'val]

Some models may have too big collision boxes. I remember i lost a destroy near a megalith once. smaller collision boxes would do the trick (although I didn't see it happen in v5.0-5.5)

[lordo36]

Hi just reinstalled Home world 2, and thought id see what mods where about, got this one unpacked it onto my HW2 Dir. The problem is when I add the -mod Complex55.big at the end of my Desktop short cut I get a error box telling me that the name specified in the target box is not valid, with it it works fine but no joy with it, any ideas? :Question:

[Skandalos]

If there are any spaces in the pathname wrap it in "...".

[lordo36]

"D:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe-mod.Complex55"".big"

Sorry is this what you mean, i still get the in valid nessage.

[Zatch]

No, use this:
"D:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe" -mod.Complex55.big

Note there is no space between ".exe" and the quotation mark, that's a forum hack to break up long strings.

[lordo36]

Ok that works, but now it wont load the mod, I think ill do a fresh HW2 install then install the mod and try again.

Now have a fresh insall, and only the complex55.big file in my HW2 data folder ( with the game ones ) but still no joy the shortcut works but i still load up version 1.01 of normall HW2. :noway:

[DJ Die]

@DJ Die: "collision detection", please tell me about that feature, is it something a user can influence in some way or just a modder?
it means that ships can crash into each other or into other object like asteriods etc. ive seen it few times and it seems it messed up somehow in Complex(other mod with simmilar problemy is HW2 Advanced) this only affect some ships for some reason

[Sajuuk333]

it's good! the MS can ram into bigger ships and pop them up!:D:D:D

ummmm one question:What the hell is that shuttle? a huge, 600speed scoutship? or what?

[Babbo]

Thanks DJ and the shuttle appears just to be a placeholder, a ship with enhanced capabilities, possibly available in Ver.6.0.

[DJ Die]

yeah they said that Shuttle was implemented but they didint have any use for it yet i use it as faster scout

id be careful with ramming things its very easy to loose your own ship too we(me and friends) have lost several motherships to such attempts its good to ram it with BC as last resort but usualy we play so that rules forbid this its unfair after all

[Grid111]

i have a complatin about that i dont know if there is and updata that fixes this but all of my fighters like to ram into frigates and die and its really annoying it just seem like they ether dont turn quick enough or actual turn into the frigate and its really annoying when i just want to have some fun with the com and build alot of fighters but no thay all go weeee it the enemy ship

[DJ Die]

hmm i never had this problem but i have problem with explosion from large ships it always eradicates my bombers when they kill cap ship which sucks because that makes them useless

[Sajuuk333]

lol...I never build fighters...I make abuse of the AI and the general player's strategy and build frigates first, which make fighters go bye-bye and cap-ships farewell lol

[Babbo]

Sucking-antidote: systematically withdraw your fighters and let only the very last one have a final shot onto the cap-ship. Take it as challenge ...

[DJ Die]

rather that this "challenge" i simply build BCs and thats it only game i had bombers was when i had to use cloaked carrier with proximity sensors to find my friend who was hiding around map so i got bored and built maximum of bombers each of my carriers could carry

[Admiral Nelson]

Actually, in the early game I find that strikers are quite useful. Especially when the AI attacks begin to be only frigates. A bunch of upgraded bombers along with a bunch of corvettes will tear frigates to shreds, as long as they have proper heavy frigate support. They are also great vs destroyers, but the frigate escort gets wiped out.

[Warbux]

I only use interceptors to take out enemy scouts. As long as you keep the scouts at bay the frigates and fighters the enemy sends won't be as confident about heading straight for you. Usually this buys me a lot of time when beginning the game.

[DJ Die]

i just let my mothership to take care of anything AI throws at me while players usualy dont rush or loose
as for scouts wise players will always keep them on the move fighters will never catch them and AI scouts can be ignored

MS is quite capable on its own if properly upgraded and can take up to destroyer ship in size untill you got Heavy Ion cannon then its able to kill anything

[DrunkEskimo]

I decided that the most effective (although expensive) way to end the enemy's resourcing is by using the Juggernaut :P. 's funny, every resource collector in range goes "Pop." Especially effective against the AI. They don't seem to know what a Gravwell gen is.

[DJ Die]

well i never research it because against AI even destroyer will do such job and against player juggs are almost useless(at least after few games when everyone expects it) but yeah its funny especialy if you jump it into swarm of bombers and frigates

[m4v]

i think its much better to have kamikaze fighters then to have a suicidal capital class ship that barely does any damage; it's destroyed long before it ever reaches its target and is therefor useless. on the other hand, a swarm of kamikaze fighters would be more then enough to take out a BC

[SmileyToaster]

I think...m4v that you dont really understand what the juggernaut does. Its SUPPOSED to blow up...its an unarmed nuclear ship. And it does a LOT of damage.

But I do agree that the model could be put to better use...

[rks]

I have a tactic I use sometimes, I build a really big wing of bombers or X-bombers, take out the hyperspace inhibitor (usually most human play with only one per protected area-space) and just jump in a couple of juggernauts. End game, or pretty close anyway. :-)

[prim]

does anyone know when that 6.0 release date it

[m4v]

nope, but it should be soon... at least thats what i hope

[SmileyToaster]

The last I heard was supposed to be around september...aka around now.

But I've kinda learned not to ask for updates from Complex...but I always love the product.

[Reise]

Hey beghins Ive been reading these boards and playing complex since 3.5. just wanted to say AWSOME and i hope you continue to push the limits of this game after Complex 6.0. Maybe add a new race and somekind of planet type thing where u build subsytsems in it and it makes certain resources. Anyhow can barely wait. Thanks

[LordRevan]

To Reise:

Unfortunately Complex 6 is going to be the last version Beghins does, unless something changed in the last few months. I think he said it himself, that he's going to the take all the time he needs till he's satisfied with the mod and only then going to release it - cause the last version has to be perfect.

I too long for updates... or at least the Complex web could get updated, although a post is easier anyway. A simple what/where/how on the progress would suffice ;]
Been checking this place for the last four months, no actual end in sight ^^ but the stuff they have planned to put in v6 is keeping me going and I suppose it's well worth it.

[prim]

i havnt played homeworld in a while, that way it will feel even better

[Gubbtjyv]

I've been having some problems with complex 5.5. The multilancer corvettes among other ships doesn't do any damage, anyone know what's wrong?

[m4v]

vayger corvettes are kinda useless, so i just use a combo of frigs, fighters, and BC
this is pretty much the standard vayger offensive: assaultcrafts to take out bomber, lance fighters for corvettes, missile\artillery frigs damage their defense, and then 4 BC to finish them off.
if you do this correctly, you can take out anyone playing hiigaran in a matter of 15 min.

[DJ Die]

Gubbtjyv: if you take a look at its stats you can notice multilance vetts have 0damage so i think its mistake someone did or they havent decided yet what damage it should have

m4v i found storm vetts quite useful for raids against resoucing ops but otherwise i rarely use other ships than BCs

[Alkezo]

I've been having some problems with complex 5.5. The multilancer corvettes among other ships doesn't do any damage, anyone know what's wrong?
Yeah, I mentioned that before. It says it does 0 damage but they are actually pretty good.

Also does anyone else notice how the sniper frigate attack research sometimes doesn't show up?

[m4v]

btw, an update would be greatly appreciated.

[Alkezo]

So I'm the only one that's noticed that the Sniper Frigate Attack Research sometimes isn't available?

[DJ Die]

im not sure but it may require some module to be researched(look at prerequisites) i dont use it so i dont know but it may need pulsar vette(its main gun is pulsar after all)

[Warbux]

Well here it is the end of September and we all await in awe the possibility that 6.0 will be released at any moment!

[Komo'val]

Don't count on it, as many said before since this is the last version it should be as near as possible to perfection and perfection takes time.

[Grid111]

the multilance vetts also dont add anything to the pop so you can have as many as you want

[Alkezo]

the multilance vetts also dont add anything to the pop so you can have as many as you want
Oh yeah, the Multilance Corvettes show them having four in a squadron in the Icon's on the HUD when there's only 3 in a squadron.

[Alkezo]

im not sure but it may require some module to be researched(look at prerequisites) i dont use it so i dont know but it may need pulsar vette(its main gun is pulsar after all)
I tested around with it and it seems all I need is a Capital Ship with a Corvette Module equipped on it. This also applies to the Missile Frigate for the Attack Upgrade.

[DJ Die]

ill give it a try today and see what do you need some ships need specific modules and some need tech from another class to work

[Kane Toth]

I am having a slight issue installing the mod. I have it in the data folder, but when I go to set the shortcut to run it I am getting a target not found message. Am I doing something wrong? Can anybody help me?

If it helps out, I am running Windows Xp Pro w/ service pack 2

[Ash Shillar]

re: Kane Toth

what you need to do is make sure the target of the new shortcut has is:

"C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe" -mod Complex55.big (that's my one anyway)

the " " is around all the text apart from the '-mod Complex55.big' part. this is annoyingly important i know, but hey! if id doesn't work now someone else who knows more about this stuff will have to help you.

[Kane Toth]

Bloody quotation marks are what got me, it's working fine now. Thanks for the help ^_^

[beghins]

Ciao,

take a look at the web site in these days I will post a release date for the imminent 6.0, some screens and then a trailer will precede the 6.0.

[Admiral Nelson]

Aww, c'mon. This isn't a massive, for profit new xbox video game you're releasing. It's just a plain (though very well made) old mod. Skip the pre-release publicity and a lot of people will thank you for it.

[Zatch]

It may not be for profit but it's good practice.

[Homdax]

Nelson, we are quite many awaiting this patiently and any news posted by Beghins are greatly appreciated, or are you implying the opposite?

[RobsoieRobsoie]

Good news to see that 6.0 is always worked on and has an "imminent" release, i can't wait to discover it after playing 5.5 for so many time.

[Reise]

yeahh :hw: :eek: :hw:

now the waiting :idea: :bored:

[cjalw1]

is their a manual for the mod i need some thing to explain this. this mod is the best iv seen.

[DJ Die]

well you can turn on Complex help while setting up game that explains most things or you can ask here

[dwbmb]

i have a little problem with complex mode. when my military ranking ( honor ) is rising, populitaion capacity is still the same. am i doing something wrong ?

[Gotcha]

Build Crew or Officer Barracks on the Crew Station, maybe? :jester:


Beghins, your fans are waiting out there...

[m4v]

can we at least get a release date?

[gthompsn]

@ beghins : good to hear from you. In my download of Complex 5.5, the Juggernaut is a ship without weapons. Will version 6.0 give change this?

[DJ Die]

Jugg is suicide unit only weapons onboard are nukes that go off when you selfdestruct it or when its destroyed

[coritani]

The game crashes to desktop when I try to start a game vs the AI. I have windows XP, and my game is in english. THis mod sounds great, and I want to play it. Any help?

Am I supposed to just have complex55.big + the command line edit?

[kalX]

Strange, I'm getting the same problem as coritani. I did exactly what it said in the readme. What's wrong?

[Catcom]

Make sure your game was patched to version 1.1 before installing Complex. That's the only reason I can think of.

[kalX]

Yeah, I completely forgot about that. I installed the 1.1 patch and it worked instantly! Thanks.

On a side note, great mod. It adds a lot of replayability to this game. (I keep getting hammered by an army of frigates though.)

[Catcom]

Try to get a good force of corvettes up as fast as possible. Then use your mothership as a meatshield, and use your corvettes to bash the frigates.

[RadHaz]

It's a bit to get used to, but enjoyable.

[DJ Die]

i prefer few destroyers but some vettes are nice to keep Sniper Frigs at bay those things have annoyingly long range...

[Warbux]

Maybe Beghins meant to say in these coming weeks instead of days?

[Catcom]

I don't really care when he releases is. I want it to be good, and since this will be the final release, he probably wants the same.

Take as much time as you want Beghins. We can wait. :cube:

[coritani]

Patching HW2 to 1.1 did nothing. :(

[Warbux]

I just don't think it is fair to lead the community on like that. If it was going to take another month then that is completely fair, just be honest.

[DJ Die]

coritani what are your specs? Complex is more demanding than standard HW2 it may be that your PC cant take it

Warbux: just wait it will be done when its done...

[Catcom]

You also must remember that these are ordinary people, doing extraordinary work. Shit happens, things come up. Maybe he fell and broke his leg or something, you don't know.

Regardless, he wouldn't lead us on purposely. So shut up and wait. Unless you are paying some kind of currency in exchange for a download(And I know your not), you have no right whatsoever to complain about the release date.


Coritani: Your command line edit should look something like this:"C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe" -mod Complex55.big

Make sure the quotations are there, along with the space just before the dash. Make sure the Complex55.big file is in your Data folder. Then make sure you patched the game to 1.1 BEFORE installing complex.

If it still doesn't work, I'm sorry but I don't know what to do.

[scarbrow]

In complex 5.5, I'm continuously getting a crash and I have no idea of what is causing it.
I don't know if you can call it good timing, but I literally saved it a second or 2 before the crash occurs each and every time.

Since I'm on a mac, it may have some bearing on the error(s) produced. If you want a copy of the saved game, I can send that as well.



Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.aspyr.hw2 0x001dd07c Ship::needsToAvoid(Sob*) const + 1228
1 com.aspyr.hw2 0x000ab760 AvoidanceCallback(Sob*, Sob*, Collision::Point const&) + 80
2 com.aspyr.hw2 0x000807c0 void @unnamed@Universe_cpp@::PerformCollisionDetection<Collision::Span<Sob>, @unnamed@Universe_cpp@::NarrowPhaseFunctionAvoidance, void (*)(Sob*, Sob*, Collision::Point const&)>(Collision::Span<Sob>&, @unnamed@Universe_cpp@::NarrowPhaseFunctionAvoidance, void (*)(Sob*, Sob*, Collision::Point const&)) + 512
3 com.aspyr.hw2 0x0007d8ac Universe::simulate() + 2236
4 com.aspyr.hw2 0x0012488c GameObj::taskFunction(float) + 1308
5 com.aspyr.hw2 0x00074ee0 TaskList::dispatchDeterministic(float) + 272
6 com.aspyr.hw2 0x000760b4 taskDispatch() + 388
7 com.aspyr.hw2 0x000845e4 AppObj::Run() + 116
8 com.aspyr.hw2 0x002793f0 Plat::App::PlatWinMain(void*, void*, char*, int, AppInterface*) + 128
9 com.aspyr.hw2 0x00003848 main + 2264
10 com.aspyr.hw2 0x00002bbc _start + 392
11 com.aspyr.hw2 0x00002a30 start + 48

[Mirehn_Bielann]

I really do enjoy Complex, but seeing as how I can't use it alongside the HW single-player campaign, I don't think I'll be enjoying it too much.

[Skandalos]

There are even more things Complex cannot supply you with: for instance it doesnt reward you with 10.000 bucks when you win, and there even aint any sweet girls who give you them kisses you deserve (and neither a grim dominatrix in case you lose). Boy how am I not enjoying this mod ... :rolleyes:

[beghins]

Sorry for our delay, but works for Comlex 6.0 are so time expensive and I have no time to update the web site and the forum too.
At the moment I`m wainting for the last model and I`ve really ultimated all the new features, only the final test remain to do.
To do this, I need someone to help me to complete the final test, it will start at the end of the next week (11/17/07) and it will continue for about one week.
I think Complex 6.0 is just perfectly working, but before the official release I want to be sure of it, so I need the help of people not involved in the development.
Write to me at beghins@homeworld2complex.com, you will receive a direct link for the beta. I ask you to play Complex for 2-3 days, single player or with your friends, then I need a relation.
I need fan of the mod.

[beghins]

OK, thank you, in 24 hours I have more then 10 testers.
I confirm the start of the test at the end of this week, wait for my private mail.

[vextor]

OHH MAN I MISSED IT

I await v6 with baited breath.

Vex

[H3L10S]

This mod sounds great, just downloaded 5.5 yesterday.

I haven't used Homeworld 2 for over a year and was looking for new mods to put life back into the game.

Came across this one and thought excellent, I dont use skirmish mode except for testing mods to see what's what.

My enjoyment is the single player campaign, well I was really looking forward to this mod but when I loaded the game It was like a smack in the mouth, no single player campaign option, that ruined it straight away for me.

I won't be using this unless you make it compatible with the campaign, so any chance of this happening in the near future please.

[Palp]

Making a mod working and balanced in the standard single player campaign is rather a pain in the ass. I would say its easier to make some new missions, so why don't you if its so important to you?

[Gotcha]

I just hope there will be more 'useful' units. Stations look nice, but they're weak points. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan. But Complex needs more combat units, especially cap ships.

[Reise]

I would have to agree with you maybe make like an uber station like the vaygar outpost? I think it is buildable to be used as a replacement for the mothership but make it uber strong... Also stations should be bigger and stronger (defensively) also it would be nice to have more fighters and MANY more specialized capitals ships. Although I think that may kill the game. anyways Thanks beghins I have been an uber fan since 4.0 I LOVE THIS GAME (mod is too light a word)

[DJ Die]

nah HW2 is not about stationary objects but about ships while Starwars styled canal flights may look nice they are not made for this game i think Complex was quite fine in 5.5 but there is always room for improvement and if my hopes will be fullfilled 6.0 should give new life to HW2 and since Beghins did only good things until now i dont think we will be dissapointed

[callitri]

first of all its a cool mod i allways loved anything related to homeworld 2 , i am a newcomer as a registered member but i been following the mods progress for a while now
would like to ask u gues if anyone knows where can i get this picture on this forum page 137 the avatar smileytoaster has in a bigger format i mean a normal picture any help would be apriciated and one more thing something wich isnt related to homeworld much only that i found it by accident , looking for some homeworld concept arts
its a little known hungarian game called nexus:the jupiter incident its not a brand new game but i think it has stunning graphics if u guzs interested take a look at it
and once again grate job beghins ty for makeing homeworld better

[SmileyToaster]

Ha oh my avatar?

Its probably in the concept art for the game.
Try looking here (http://www.hwshots.homeworldtrinity.org/main.php?g2_itemId=5442) for it and some other concept art stuff

But I wish beghins and the beta testers lots of luck! Hopefully you guys find 6.0 in great running condition. Thanks for all your hard work beghins.

And p.s. callitri Nexus is fairly well known around these forums...but probably the wrong place to discuss it.

[SupremeJustice]

Hopefully someone responds to this but I'm having trouble with the installation of the mod. I have extracted the mod to the Release folder but from that point on I am totally lost with what to do next. I really don't know what shortcut that the installation is talking about. If anyone could help me with very easy instructions to follow so I can get this mod to play.

[XcaliberCrusade]

-If you don't have a shortcut icon (the HW2 icon probably on your desktop with the little white box with the arrow in it) for homeworld 2 then create one.

-right click the shortcut

-under the target path, add a space AFTER the last quotation mark and type -mod MODName.big, where modname is the name of the mod's .big file. (I'm not sure what it is in this instance)

-Now whenever you open the game from that shortcut, it will run the mod. This way you can have several mods installed and simply choose the icon of the mod... (and they can have different names and pictures as you see fit.

[adamstrange]

Complex needs more combat units, especially cap ships. you could make them yourself and add them into the mod.

If you don't know how to model the ships using 3D programs [like me] then become a Hoddler [a modeler who Hods ships together] which is the only way that I can build ships.

I think the reason that Complex may not have all the ships that we would like to have is because its trying to keep a certain level of strategy.

Originally the game only gives you like 1 destroyer instead of 2 or 3 for each side which is really enough for the gameplay.

In my Firestorm mod I have 3 types of destroyers,Standard,Heavy Destroyer and Ballistic Missile.

I put them in,not for a strategic purpose but just for a fun factor.

I really like to sometimes just sit back and watch the AI battle itself.

I also like to see lots of different ships and may continue to add more ships to the mod.

[prim]

where can u get 3d programs to create your own ships, casue id like to get my hands on that

[callitri]

ty for the link to the conceptart page , found some new pics
i like concept art pictures specialy if they are scifi in nature so if anyone has some good source would apriciate a link:)

[Stalin Trotsky]

Why don't the cruise missiles cause any damage?

[Homdax]

Ty Smiley for linking to my HWSHOTS Album, and Callitri, feel free to register and upload your own screens. That goes for all of you guys...:grouphug:

[Grid111]

where can u get 3d programs to create your own ships, casue id like to get my hands on that

Try searching on Google for Blender, it's what we're using in college and it's completely free.

[LordRevan]

well, the week of testing should have ended a week or so ago, so v6 should have been out also, fact that it's not probably means something, this raises questions like: where there bugs found and you're back at the "drawing board"? has the testing stopped? or is it continuing? etc. you cant throw phrases like in the few last beghins's posts about the mod being on the verge of release, sorta promiss a week or so and not even throw the smallest bit of info of what the hell is going on :P please update or someone might commit suicide :D and thanks for your work ;]

[prim]

maybes hes saving it as a cristmas present

[m4v]

what? for this Christmas or the next?

come on beghins...trow us a bone or something.
its been like a year already - or more - and we're still waiting

[CorsairX]

cant wait any longer arghh!... need v6... or serious therapy! :couch:

[Zatch]

Complaining about a lack of updates won't get you anywhere, let's just wait for a response, okay?

[Skandalos]

Just one question: is anyone of the guys still active in this thread member of the beta testers group?

[Jack Antonio]

Anyone know what program is used to open BIG files? I tried FinalBIG but it said it was an invalid file, so if you have a name of a program or a link that would be great.

[LordRevan]

Zatch, no it wont, and i completely understand Beghins as he said he was busy, but there are/were 10 testers, isnt it weird that none of them said anything? well, unless they were told to stfu by Beghins himself... still... say something... anything -_-

[Babbo]

Rigid obedience ... or maybe just ... loyalty?

A humble idea, isn't it?

[xpress907]

I just got the complex 5.5 mod, I have a question. In the main menu, there is a tab that takes me to ships descriptions but after a few ships it states that the rest can be viewed in the older version of complex. Is there a way for me to get those ships to show without having to downgrade my mod. Can I combine those files from the old version into the complex 5.5 version and if so how? thnx

[SmileyToaster]

Thats most like a typo the Complex team forgot to update when the release of v. 5 ofrom v. 4

In v. 6 it will most likely be fixed.
Hope the testing is going well Beghins

[Skandalos]

So there were "more than 10 testers" collected in 24 hours. But not a single one stumbles by in this thread in three days just to say "Hi, yes Im actually testing 6.0". I just cant help smelling a fish.

[beghins]

Still a bit of patience, works are a lot, the release will pay your long waiting, I'm sure.
At the moment I'm waiting for a model (that it's completed at least at 90%) from Paul, the 3D artist of Complex, and this is the last task of the project.
Then, I will contact testers, only 3 days are needed for a full test, because over these days I've tested too much Complex 6.0.

[Jon]

^ is the last model an uber higaran cruiser? :D

[Ash Shillar]

Well... Paul.. :p hurry uppppp!
I look foward to it :)
Still going to check back every day though!! (sad but heyy!)

Thank you for your hard work, its really amazing!

Ash

:crash: heh heh

[Pete J]

Keep going Beghins, we await your work with baited breath!
Also thanks to the other members of the team - they never seem to get the thanks they deserve!

[ANUB|S]

ye. hats off to the complex team. i for one don't mind waiting cuz i know that a delayed release = better mod quality. and heck, that's what complex is all about, gameplay quality

[Seanalex]

I'm drooling in anticipation for the 6.0 release.

[Ash Shillar]

heh heh
join the club! we're the cause of oceanic expansion, not global warming :p.

*sings*
we love you complex, we do, we love you complex, we do!


neways.. ive gotta get going.
complex team, you're geniuses!

Ash

[Wyverex]

Homeworld2.exe caused an Access Violation in module Homeworld2.exe at 001b:00439191.
Error occurred at 12/16/2007 13:02:18.
Homeworld2.exe, run by Me :P
Microsoft Windows XP?.
2 processor(s), type 586.
2048 MBytes physical memory.
Read from location 0000000c caused an access violation.

MiniDump saved to file 'E:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\12-16-2007_13_02_18_MiniDump.dmp'

Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=001b EIP=00439191 EFLGS=00010246
EBX=00000006 SS=0023 ESP=0013f58c EBP=0013f5a8
ECX=0000001c DS=0023 ESI=04432878 FS=003b
EDX=00000000 ES=0023 EDI=04ef40d4 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
3b 58 0c 0f 82 6e fd ff ff 8b b6 0c 03 00 00 d9

Call Stack:
0x00439191: GSLobbySessionDesc::operator= ()
0x00482C78: GSLobbySessionDesc::operator= ()
0x00598C9F: getLibraryID ()
0x0049463B: GSLobbySessionDesc::operator= ()
0x005AE71A: getLibraryID ()
0x00491221: GSLobbySessionDesc::operator= ()

Stack dump:
Exception encountered during stack dump.

Any Idea? :cry:

[Zatch]

Post hw2.log.

[Wyverex]

Sun Dec 16 19:24:15 2007
Loaded Archive: 'Homeworld2.big'
UTIL -- filepath failure, path doesn't exists 'E:\PROGRA~1\Sierra\HOMEWO~1\data\locale\english'
Loaded Archive: 'english.big'
Loaded Archive: 'complex55.big'
Uing ..profiles\ for profiles folder
GAME -- Using player profile Wyverex
Changing from a 32 bit colour depth in winNT (5.1 build 2600), Service Pack 2
Using NVIDIA Corporation's 2.1.2 GeForce 8600 GTS/PCI/SSE2 renderer (Suspected driver is nvoglnt.dll 6.14.11.6904)
Loaded Archive: 'englishSpeech.big'
Loaded Archive: 'Music.big'
SOUND -- created destination [ fdaudio ], handle [ 4 ] with [ 48 ] channels created
SOUND -- created destination [ fda streamer ], handle [ 5 ] with [ 8 ] channels created
Build name: The Dust Wars - AutoBuild3569 - Ordered by smmatte
Built by : mrbuild
Data path : E:\PROGRA~1\Sierra\HOMEWO~1\data
Resetting fp control word.
CmdLine: -mod complex55.big
parameter: attempt to concat a nil value
stack traceback:
1: function `computerspy' at line 74 [string ""]
parameter: attempt to concat a nil value
stack traceback:
1: function `computerspy' at line 74 [string ""]
parameter: attempt to concat a nil value
stack traceback:
1: function `computerspy' at line 74 [string ""]
parameter: attempt to concat a nil value
stack traceback:
1: function `computerspy' at line 74 [string ""]
parameter: attempt to concat a nil value
stack traceback:
1: function `computerspy' at line 74 [string ""]

-------------------------------------------------------------

Sun Dec 16 19:57:48 2007
Loaded Archive: 'Homeworld2.big'
UTIL -- filepath failure, path doesn't exists 'E:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\data\locale\english'
Loaded Archive: 'english.big'
Uing ..profiles\ for profiles folder
GAME -- Using player profile Wyverex
Changing from a 32 bit colour depth in winNT (5.1 build 2600), Service Pack 2
Using NVIDIA Corporation's 2.1.2 GeForce 8600 GTS/PCI/SSE2 renderer (Suspected driver is nvoglnt.dll 6.14.11.6904)
Loaded Archive: 'englishSpeech.big'
Loaded Archive: 'Music.big'
SOUND -- created destination [ fdaudio ], handle [ 4 ] with [ 48 ] channels created
SOUND -- created destination [ fda streamer ], handle [ 5 ] with [ 8 ] channels created
Build name: The Dust Wars - AutoBuild3569 - Ordered by smmatte
Built by : mrbuild
Data path : E:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\data
Resetting fp control word.
CmdLine:

[Zatch]

Looks like an AI problem, guess you'll have to wait for the creator on that one.

[Babbo]

Just for my association (could be Technical Help as well): since my installation is eternally slow under my new graphics card, I tried to add some well-known switches around that -mod complex55.big. Something like -enable3d, -d3d. -gl and so on.

Also I'd be more than glad if you could contribute to my actual problem, treated here (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=173351).

Final word: http://wiki.hw2.info (nowadays 403) has become http://hw2wiki.net/wiki or what?

Thanks a lot for your concern.

[Wyverex]

Thx Zatch..i'll wait. :)

[Homdax]

Babbo, yes Thought moved. After some confabulated theoritizations and system respawns that would be the new site. Also treated here: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=156093
As for you gfx problem, You seem to have covered most I can think of. Mayby try the Omega Drivers http://www.omegadrivers.net/ ?

Sorry for OT.

[DJ Die]

there may be one more sollution try to enable V-Sync my friend had same problem with this seems its caused by high end cards like GF8800

[Babbo]

Home (is dax the word for boy?) and DJ thanks: naturally, I already toggled vsync and I tried Omega as well.

At the end, after more than a month, probably, I'm gonna consult a good therapist.

[LogicPolice]

I am having trouble loading Complex 5.5. I have installed it into the Homworld2/Data folder and the instructions say to enter -mod Complex55.big at the end of the desktop shortcut path but when I do that I get an error saying that it is not a valid path. Does anyone know what my problem might be?................never mind

[Babbo]

Then, before entering, enclose the original link by "

[Ash Shillar]

this is the link that works for me

"C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe" -mod Complex55.big

the location of the Homeworld2.exe might be different on ur computer, but if create a new link and simply add -mod Complex55.big outside the "" then it should work.


alsooo... whens the next version out? the previous posts say the weekend just passed..
still lookin foward to it tho :p

Ash

[Draconica]

I'm excited about the new mod version. I don't post often, but I do stop in a couple of times every month to catch up on posts and watch the progress. Me and my loyal crew of HW2 complex players have been enjoying the awsome work put into this mod for years now. Looking forward to the final version. Weeeeee! ~laughs

[BurningFeetMan]

I sit here, quietly waiting, and plan on playing this mod with a smile when it's ready and released. :)

[Babbo]

Nice demonstration of a nice attitude, BFM!

By the way, browsing your posts ..., did you ever solve your Complex-sensors-slow-down-problem? The reason simply is that I'm having similar problems now. Maybe, you find some time, so let me guide you to that post (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=173351).

[prim]

see what did i tell you, in a couple days its gonna be christmas, and i bet hes make it like a present

[Ash Shillar]

lol! you may be right!!

i crertainly hope so :D

ash

[adamstrange]

I had this idea for an Ultra Complex Mod.

Would it be possible to keep all the current upgrades of 5.5 plus setup the mod where you have to upgrade everything in the game ?

For example, none of the ships have weapons when they are built.

No pulsars,no guns,destroyers have no turrets...nothing.
You have to upgrade EVERYTHING.

[prim]

that might be neat for a destroyer, custumize what kind of cannons it has, so you can have some regular one and then on the rear turrent build and ion cannon

[adamstrange]

I figure that this would be fun for those who like to play long drawn out games.

[prim]

i love taking my time, but even in complex sometimes i feel rushed, my play stye in most games is build a strong economy and then attack with more troops then they ever could

[adamstrange]

There are some asteroids in some of the maps that are labeled "Mining Base" but even though there is an indication that you can dock into it,when you give an order to a collector to do so it will just hang around the MS.

Is this a bug in the game ?

[apogeeXX]

There are some asteroids in some of the maps that are labeled "Mining Base" but even though there is an indication that you can dock into it,when you give an order to a collector to do so it will just hang around the MS.

Is this a bug in the game ?

Have you used the marine frigate to infiltrate the mining base ? You can only occupy the mining base with resource collectors after successful infiltration.

[prim]

its labeled as an enemy so you have to cpture it, when you do though get ready for every enemy to attack the base, be sure you have a few battlecruisers gaurding it

[Ash Shillar]

Day of truth tomorrow!
will complex 6 come out wraped in golden paper... or will we be left to sit here and wish it had...

happy christmas in advance peeps!
Ash

[Draconica]

~chuckles at Ash Shillar~ Yep, thats what I'm wondering too! :) Can't wait. hehe.

Either way. Happy holidays to those who are celebrating :) ~cheers

[Ash Shillar]

well i suppose it wasnt to be... ah well... i suppose... *sniff* i could... *sniff* always hope...

please mister... its so cold...

that and other sad stuff lol.

neways! im hoping it'll be out soon..

enjoy new year!!


Ash

[Berrik]

This mod is greatly entertaining and appears to be quite useable in MP. I especially like the radius-based effects on special modules-- it gives more of a reason to risk a carrier in combat.

[Azrael|Demon]

Only thing I don't like about this mod is that it lags like hell in multiplayer games.

[Sajuuk333]

eh Az :O wanna try a match?

[Azrael|Demon]

Sure send me a message on xfire or hamachi when you want to.

[DJ Die]

Azrael what do you mean it lags in MP? we have played quite often few months ago and its ok(at least now when my PC is good enough)

[beghins]

Ciao, speaking with the team we have a release date, and it is 12 January 2008.
The final beta test will start on 6 January 2008 and it will be public in this forum.
The web site will be updated around first days of 2008.
Your wait has been long, but I'm sure you will be satisfied from the release.
Happy new year!

[Jon]

You mean January right? If so YAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

[BurningFeetMan]

Oh that's awesome news! Good stuff :D

[Pete J]

I hate using l33t speak but:

w00t!!!

[Azrael|Demon]

Sweet. It's just last time I played comp-lex on muliplayer it lagged terribly.

[Wyverex]

:spin:

[Alkezo]

I know I don't post much, but I pop my head in every now and then for an update as I've been wanting 6.0 for some time now lol.

Now I can't wait those few days for it to come out. Thanks for the update Beghins.

[Grid111]

have to say this has to be one of the greatest and most populer mods out and i can wait till the next version is out thks guys for the due date

[Ash Shillar]

public beta..? today?? hmm... where?
oh.. this forum?? really? no... no i dont see anything...

err???

ok seriously... your (hwcomplex team) works great. but your keeping to deadlines... isnt so much.
please let it be on time this time!! *doubts*

Ash

[Gotcha]

Yeah, well... don't hold your breath either... it's only about one year "late", after all... :jester:

[Elite Protector]

HOLY CRUD !!! 146 pages of mod material ! This mod must be good, although I ain't going to try it. The videos and pics i've seen so far look great but take away my courage of playing it, gosh just the fire power displayed in the videos makes me feel tiny :Hail: :hw:

[beghins]

To all who have sent my the mail for join the beta test, keep ready to receive the link for the beta today, instructions into the mail, I confirmed the release for the next Saturday.

[Ash Shillar]

i suppose the fact that your (beghins) acctually on the forun is a good sign lol

good luck with the testing stuff!!

*takes a deep breath* (il need it for the week long wait!)

Ash

[DJ Die]

shame im not one of testers i dont want to wait another week :(

[beghins]

Well, Complex 6.0 Beta has been delivered to testers, only one week of hard play, good luck.
You will read impressions and so on in this forum, testers are from H2 community.
Saturday, if the beta test goes as it should go, you will play Complex 6.0 and I will drink a much expensive red bottle.
Ciao, Beghins.

[Chronox]

I just downloaded Complex 5.5 and followed the directions to install it. I try playing it and it comes up with a "Conflict with disk emulator software detected" error. Has anyone else ended up with this error? I have the english version, patched and am running windows vista home premium.

[magnus1114]

Conflict with disk emulator software detected usually happens when some variant of SecuROM detects that you've got Daemontools emulating the disk in question.

As homeworld 2 is neither a SecuROM supporting product, nor something you'd be running an ISO for anyways, the error is likely unrelated.

That all said, HAVE you set up your Complex 5.5 shortcut properly?

If you haven't, it might be trying to do something wierd, but I wouldn't be able to tell you, as I've no experience with windows vista.

[Zatch]

Disable any disk emulating software and you should be fine.

[Sky_walker]

Beta:
ok, I just begun fun, here is first screen (as beta testers are allowed to show you some game) My first screen (http://sky.lycoris.pl/eh/ss00502.jpg).
And... what I can say for beginning... looks amazing, tons of options, years, resources, Mothership reports almost like it did in first mission of HW (drives online... and so on, technical stuff), it took a moment to build that ship on screen - research station, 1 trip of my harvesters. More impressions later ;)

[Chronox]

I'm pretty sure i followed the read me to the letter, this is the path i have it set at for the shortcut
"C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe" -mod Complex55.big
nor do i have any disk emulating software active, so im not sure whats up. and the other shortcut to another mod i have on it worked perfectly till i tried putting this mod on and now it has the same error as well as the original shortcut to the unmodded version itself

[s9rStef]

Hi,

Well, I'm a very new player to Homeworld serie (I just order the two games today) and I'm really amazed by the community work. All I see is fabulous, excellent work everyone.

I've just a little interrogation: is this mod only for multiplayer or also for solo?


Kind Regards,

[Jon]

both, no campaign though, only skirmish and online.

[Babbo]

Chronox: Any diskcopy software running, resident or even only installed?

[Chronox]

Babbo: I have Magic iso installed but thats it.

[84HAGN]

Well been playing Complex 5.5 for a while and still havent fiqured out why I get CTDs they occur randomly.
could happen at launh of game then could happen after an hour or more.
Have changed memory..Checked and double checked all hardware. uninstalled game and reinstalled . Updated drivers
tried everything to no avail still get random crashes.
Even when a saved game is load still crashes at around the same time the orginal game crashed even tried not building anything still crashed.
Any ideas ?
Thanks
Mike

[SmileyToaster]

Its just inconsistancies with some stuff somewhere within the 5.5 Complex big file. Most people do get CTD's with this mod, I know I do.

The best thing to do is wait til this Saturday for 6.0
Hopefully all the kinks will be worked out

[Chronox]

hopefully 6.0 will work, cant wait!

[Babbo]

You may try to uninstall that Magic thing, Chronox.

[Chronox]

nope, that didn't work either. im just gonna reinstall and save my game files somewhere

found out what the problem was, the 1.1 patch is what is causing the problem. i reinstalled it and it worked fine. i installed the patch and i get the error. :banghead:

[Ash Shillar]

woo! finaly a fixed release date!!
:D

loving the new screens on the site as well!
looking foward to "wasting" time on sunday!!

it took its time... but im sure it will be worth the wait :D :D

Ash

[beghins]

Complex 6.0 out this Sunday 01/13/08
The mod introduces a lot of new ships, in order to avoid complaints after the release the two ships below have been enclosed in Complex 6.0 without the consensus of the respective creators cause I never had replies to my sent mails.
So if someone has to claim something that's the moment, in this case I will take a few time to modify those ships otherwise I assume the consensus reached.
Thanks, Beghins.

http://www.homeworld2complex.com/images/support/mt.jpg

http://www.homeworld2complex.com/images/support/lc.jpg

[prim]

Chronox: yeah i know that happened to me when i wanted to play on my new vista computer casue i thaught it would be cool with all best grafics and that emulation thing happened to me, it took me awilt to figure out it was the patch, do you have vista cause i don the patch is vista friendly, so im stuck to playin on my outdated machine but its still good casuse this is an awesome mod

[BurningFeetMan]

ZOMG, can't wait until tomorrow! This is better than Christmas!

[Chronox]

my prob is that i upgraded to vista, so unless i can get a linux distro to work on my other hard drive and hope it works for that, Im up a creek

[Ash Shillar]

linux eh...
check out http://www.winehq.org/ . Its an emulator for various different platforms, linux to windows + other stuff.

i dont have linux but a friend recomended it to me when i was thinking of changing!


only 1 more dayyy!!!
:D

Ash

[filstrup]

Chronox: I've had the very same problem as you since I installed Vista (HP 32 bit). I don't have any virtual drives or similar software installed (actually never installed one) but I get the Securom error message if I use the original exe and CD. Just use a no CD fixed exe and enjoy.

[Chronox]

filstrup: and i would do this how exactly?

[filstrup]

Search for the no CD fix (I don't know if it is allowed to post links related to these kind of things, guess not, so you will have to google it), and replace the original exe (rename it to hw2.exe_old or something) with it. Of course the game must be previously installed, patched, and, if your HW2 copy is not an english one (like mine), the english language file copied into the right installation folder (see the complex support page). You can use the shortcut created during the installation with the needed command line changes to run the mod.

Good luck.

[Zatch]

Correct, you cannot post a link to a no CD fix; in this case it is a valid suggestion.

[LordRevan]

gah! what's the hold up? :P *CANT... WAIT... NEED v6... TO... LIVE...* :D
the day isnt over so i'll keep waiting -_- thanks for your great job :Hail:

PS oh wow just noticed that the forums is -8 GMT, i'm +2 GMT so you can imagine the differentce, it's 8am already ;] hope beghins doesnt update everything on the 13th in this forum's time zone ^^

[BurningFeetMan]

My weekend has now gone, living in Australia and all, and still no Complex 6. ;_; I'll have to play this puppy in between the hours I'm not working! :cry: There goes sleep! :cry:

[beghins]

More then 2000 people have visited this during the last day, good!
Last corrections, I think 2-3 hours to the release.

[Chronox]

got the no cd fix put on but now i get the error: The precedure entry point ?SaveAll@LuaConfig@@QAEX_N@Z couldnt be located in the dynamic link library luaconfig.dll

[Neoner]

gasp.. complex needed.. desperately.. my weekend is almost gone.. So no school tomorrow then ^^

[filstrup]

Chronox: that's a weird error. Be sure that it is the right fix for the 1.1 version and first try to start the original game, without mods. If still doesn't work try reinstalling.

I play without problems with the following command line linked to the no-CD:

C:\Games\Sierra\Homeworld2\Bin\Release\Homeworld2.exe -w 1680 -h 1050 -mod Complex55.big

No need for administrator privileges or XP compatibility mode under Vista.

The only issue is some error message as the game menu appears telling me that I need to update the graphic drivers for my GTX, but I just ignore it and the game plays just fine.

[SmileyToaster]

There are approximately 40 people watching this subforum.

Today is gonna be a great day.

[s9rStef]

Hummm... they are late ! :) I hope there's no last minute bug.

[Neoner]

/emote commits suicide ^^
Note: No Complex on Sunday.. sniff... my life is miserable

[SmileyToaster]

Just be patient.

It still is Sunday for some of us.
Do you actually KNOW that its not coming out today?

[Ash Shillar]

paiiinnn............. running through my body........ cant hold on..... much .... longer....


:slow: heh heh
i suppose il have to wait till tomorrow after school then!!
bedd timmeee!
sleep well peeps! dont stay up to late waiting for the release :D

Ash

[chrisb2e9]

glad its only 3:20 for me. lots of sunday left to wait for it.

[Wyverex]

:puppy: 23:28.......

[Seanalex]

It's 3:05, the girlfriend is at her moms house with bronchitis and pink eye. But I work tomorrow at 8:30am. Hurry please? :) I'll give you a delicious peanut butter cookie.

[m4v]

3:03...hehe

but still, i hope it comes out soon

[vextor]

with bated breath i await...

1613 here, i got off work early just to get my fix.
i assume it'll take till tomorrow for the download to finish.

i sure hope they have some mirrors setup :-)

vex

[LordRevan]

beghins definitely lives in a different time zone and has special definitions of "hours" XD

[m4v]

yea what gives? beghins is in Italy, meaning that it's around 12 pm where he lives

[Pravus]

It is actually 12 am at night, technically it is Monday in Italy now. The Sunday release is over if Beghins was planning it by Italy time. He may he thought ahead and considered USA time... which means 4pm Sunday at the time of writing.

I love this Mod and am waiting like you all, with bated breath!

[Chronox]

filstrup: Thanks for your help, though i got it to work without having to do that, just had to check the box that said run as administrator and i worked fine. and thanks to anyone else that tried to help

Now, to take a crack at 5.5 or to wait for 6.0?

[Wyverex]

Seanalex: The Cake is a lie! :spin:

[beghins]

OK, sorry, still few hours (about 10, my sleep), We've got problems with the last unit (the Higaaran Vortex) not enclosed in the beta test.

[LordRevan]

[imitates peter griffin] whoa whoa whoa whoa... x10 [/end]

lol?! WHAAAAT.....?

did i misunderstand or beghins just went to sleep and will get up in 10 hours and then continue working xD

kthxbai n gnight

@Wyverex: good one

[beghins]

OK, I'm uploading the Server, enjoy!

[SmileyToaster]

Dear God...

Thanks for all the years of hard work.
I'm downloading it and I have NO idea what is inside. But I know that I'll love it

Thanks again Beghins

[Chronox]

yay

a great end to an amazing weekend

ok going from an unmodded hw2 to complex 6, i took a look at the hiigaran ship lineup and almost crapped myself in excitement and its complexity. is there a good way to grow acclimized to this level of complexity.

[chahyuckjun]

hallelujah! it's finally here :D :bored: :bored: :bored:

:slow: :awesome: :dunce: :dunce:

[Pravus]

Downloading it now and can't wait. If it helps to know, I am an art director in the games industry and Homeworld Complex is one of the games I have played the most!

Well done to all who worked on this and previous versions!

[Pete J]

Downloading now.

I'll have to play this when I get back from work. Must be loads of new stuff-the download is over twice 5.5!

Cheers Complex Team! Expect lots of praise at a later date!

[Homdax]

kudos and much thanks for your hard work beghins...should you need some additional b/w /alternate download location let me know.

[Pravus]

I've been playing the Player VS Cpu for some hours now and I am stuck. Something seems to have changed with the honor system and I can't get past Ensign. I have destroyed everything that the enemy throws at me (with 5 carefully placed, fully upgraded Tulwars), I have my research tree pretty much maxed out (Engineering Level Research) but I still can't get the necessary honor to get a single crew quarters on the crew station. That means I am stuck at 175 crew, as is the enemy who are also on 0 Honor (I scanned them).

This is quite frustrating as I all the lovely new technology is just out of reach. The description of the honor system on the webpage is to research new tech, build modules and fight. I have been doing all of the above and the honor is still at 0 after 3 hours or more.

Any help?

I am playing Complex 6.0 on a Mac with OSX. As a note, the Complex mod has worked perfectly on my Mac since I started playing with version 4.0+

Thanks.

[Nassru]

When I look at the download page for Complex I only see 5.5 instead of 6.0. :help:

[Pravus]

Purge your browser cache. I think on the PC it will be alt+refresh on the browser... or control refresh. That should do it.

[Nassru]

That did it, thanks for the help! :p

[RobsoieRobsoie]

Thank you to the hard workers that made this mod, i have been a complete fan of 5.5 , can't wait to get some time tonight to play 6.0.
Goodbye wife and children :D .

[beghins]

Pravus,


Honor... or lack of it.

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I've been playing the Player VS Cpu for some hours now and I am stuck. Something seems to have changed with the honor system and I can't get past Ensign. I have destroyed everything that the enemy throws at me (with 5 carefully placed, fully upgraded Tulwars), I have my research tree pretty much maxed out (Engineering Level Research) but I still can't get the necessary honor to get a single crew quarters on the crew station. That means I am stuck at 175 crew, as is the enemy who are also on 0 Honor (I scanned them).

This is quite frustrating as I all the lovely new technology is just out of reach. The description of the honor system on the webpage is to research new tech, build modules and fight. I have been doing all of the above and the honor is still at 0 after 3 hours or more.

Any help?

I am playing Complex 6.0 on a Mac with OSX. As a note, the Complex mod has worked perfectly on my Mac since I started playing with version 4.0+

Thanks.

You're speaking about problems never happen on my PC and to beta testers; two options, may be I've uploaded the wrong file or may be Complex 6.0 doesn't work on Mac.
Honor must increase in any case. Someone other has experienced the same problem on Windows?

[Nassru]

Pravus, you should just do a custom game and mess with the options available. That might solve the problems you are experiencing.

[burton]

i have a big bug in multiplayer with my brother with the version 6.0.
connection lost apres some secondes/minutes. (out of sync.)

we using hamachi and make a virtual lan because TCP/IP not working, it doesn't much matter which heberge or game option

complex 5.5 works perfectly.

(sorry for my english)

ps: sniper frigate higaaran make no dammage at missile frigate vaigr (bug ?)

[BGMF]

Hello Beghins and Crew!

We - that means an friend of mine and me - encountered the same bug someone mentioned before. We get an "Out of sync" on side of the none-hosting player:

Facts:
* team of 2xHumans (1xHiig, 1xVaygr) v.s. team of 2xAI (1xHiig, 1xVaygr)
* "Out of sync" after a few minutes
* tried different maps - same error
* also tried switching the hosting machines - same error
* also tried Direct Connection instead of LAN-game - same error
* also tried to switch of firewalls, etc.... - same problem
* without AI (PvP) - no problem
* Complex55 is also installed (separatly started!) - no problems
* both machines WinXP - but I guess this makes no difference
* we didn't played it via Internet, but using a 100MBit LAN

Any suggestions?

But thank you very much anyway for this mod! We're both big fans of this one, since we first tried it! So keep up the good work!

Greetings,
BGMF

[Gotcha]

Downloaded v6.0 this afternoon.

Got one weird "bug" (and stopped playing afterwards) : I had a Light carrier early in the game. Got destroyed for no reason (was close to Mothership, no ennemy around). But at the same time I had 10 fighters attacking ennemy resource collectors and fighters, and my light carrier seems to have suffered because my flight of fighters got destroyed, eventually. Sucks big time, because it also means a lower crew "capacity".

Also got a CTD after trying to view (focus on) a "Salvager".

Looks like 6.01 is alreday underway, so I guess I'll just wait until a few things get fixed.

The gallery is gone, too. Too bad.

[prim]

well i just downloaded it and ill have to see if i have any bugs after i get back form the store

[DJ Die]

ive played few games no bugs so far but ive got some other problems:
vortex has no research aviable which means it will become obsolete really fast as BCs are way better
also AI is totaly hopeless while i had fully upgraded battlestation jumping to his MS he still was strugling to get some collectors(no res station or such)
otherwise its great mod

[DragonRR]

Overall, very nice work on v6.0 Complex Team, looks like it will be awesome after a few bug fixes:

I just had a weird problem.. My mothership seemed to destroy itself just after building a patcher. No enemies around (that I could see) and didn't seem to be taking any hits from anywhere. It died VERY rapidly... maybe 20 seconds from completely OK to gone. This sounds like the light carrier issue above. I had a light carrier myself (which was fine!)

[Pravus]

Thanks for your response, Beghins. I have tried many different types of player vs CPU games, even starting with 15 honor points (which doesn't appear, you still start with 0 and fail to gain any).

Please don't disregard the Mac version, as Mac users we don't have many great games on our machine, so Complex is a saving grace. I can imagine there are quite a few Mac users of Complex.

I am more than happy to provide any Mac support you may need.

Version 6 is incredibly stable on the Mac, its just the lack of honor that is causing a problem. I played for 3 hours plus last night without a single crash bug.

The only time a ship destroyed itself was when I tested out the crew escape pod option on a light carrier, which then self destructed as it warned it would do.

[prim]

ok heres how it went everthing was going good and then i got attacked, ok but i got owened and i quit, i was overwelmed by dozens of fighters and bombers and i oly had 3 fighters. so i build a barracks to increase by pop limit and nothing happened, it was completed and my limit stayed the same. in fact it sarted going down as i lost more units and i still coulnt build any units. anyone else have this proplem