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starwind
28th Sep 04, 8:40 PM
im painting up an iron hands successor chapter(probly will name them iron dragons in tribute to the dragon on mars).
anyhoo i want to incorperate metallic red ino their paintjobs but that is one color i have always had trouble making. if i mix red and silver i get metallic pink and if i use red ink over silver it pools too much in the reccesses. only thing i can think of is many layers of thinned ink.
any of you painting gurus out there have advice?

Two Beans
28th Sep 04, 8:51 PM
Try painting red and drybrushing silver or gold over it.

Cashew
28th Sep 04, 8:54 PM
Try using a drop of varnish or liquid soap in your ink wash, it will stop it from pooling. As far as I know there really isn't a way to do metallic red, your best bet would be using gloss red paint.

Brother Walk
28th Sep 04, 9:12 PM
I have done metallic brown with citadel paints.
oddly enough .. NOT on a mini, but on a faded Addams Family Gold pinball cabinet.

if you take like 4 parts of your red (like err red gore or deamon deep red if you have old old paints) and 1 part boltgun (the darkest silver) and mix evenly .. you should get a metallic red.

you have to mix a little more than you would want to use to get it even though .. and if your doing a lot of models .. as much as it might hurt .. better to mix up an entire pot of it once you get the colour you want.

[ keeping those empty paint pots around is worth it :) ]

if that gives you fits .. or its still too pink .. an ink wash of red or just a wash of red over it will darken it down.

awefully fiddly though.

starwind
28th Sep 04, 9:40 PM
thanks for the advice. now i just need to find a test subject to see how it will look. if i cant get it right i may try a scaly look on normal glossy red.

Warcrier
29th Sep 04, 4:24 AM
its doable but metallic colours just never look good, ive seen ppl do it b4 and it only looks good on necrons as there secondary colours and even then I t doesnt look good anymore, just did when i first saw it and that was when i was a young nieve painter in my early days

Civik
29th Sep 04, 9:45 AM
try a 50/50 or even 60/40 mix of water/ink and add a droplet of dishsoap to it.

I painted my necrons using several layers of drybrushing/inking and it came out pretty well.

Of course, I used first black ink, drybrushed boltgun back over it, then inked flesh wash, then drybrush again.

Seemed to come out kinda rusty which looked cool.

Fiend
6th Oct 04, 4:27 AM
Despite GW's disclaimer when releasing the Metallic paint set (which I rather liked although it's open to all sorts of abuse), it's not that hard to make a reasonable metallic red (although you're never going to make a true metallic blood red stylee).

The general way to do it is:

Mix mithril silver, the reddest bronze you can find, and red ink.

Paint a couple of coats of that.

Highlight with mithril silver, shade with tin bitz and a little scab red.

A few glazes of red ink.

--- Basically vary that sort of thing to find what you like. Maybe some blood red in the initial mix would help. The tip is to have some red mixed in the base coat AND have a few red washes/glazes.

Hang on I will get a picture.

Fiend
6th Oct 04, 4:39 AM
http://www.fiendy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/figures/redknight1.jpg http://www.fiendy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/figures/redknight2.jpg

:werd:

This is more on the bright red side than the metallic side (and isn't shaded nearly well enough)... I'll get some pics of some 40k chaos stuff up sometime that have a much darker and better metallic red.

Two Beans
6th Oct 04, 5:12 AM
Despite GW's disclaimer when releasing the Metallic paint set

Which is?

Fiend
6th Oct 04, 5:33 AM
"We can't make a metallic red because the metal flecks used to make metallic colours make a red colour look grey" or thereabouts. Which is kinda true but combine a metallic red with a wash or two and it's pretty good.