I hate-hate-hate resin models!

[Gorkamorka]

I HATE resin models! Resin is hard to convert, badly balanced, nigthmarish for the brushes and near-impossible to glue together!

Gw, stop usin' resin!

[kalju-luopio]

There there now. Things could be worse. Imagine if everything would be made completely out of green stuff. Grreeennn Stuffff.

[Draken2034]

green stuff is the same thing used to make the warhammer models(fantasy, 40k and LOTR) its just a different color. but ya, the chemicals or actual technical name for it is the same stuff used to make warhammer models. i was told by one of the GW employees and if you've seen sneak-peaks of models in the process of being made, like the new terminators, then youd see that its made out of green stuff.

[Dimension]

as far as i know, WH models are either metal or plastic, NOT green stuff. it would be even more expensive than resin i suspect.

the reason why you have loads of greenstuff on pre-production models is simple. those are figurines that are sculpted before actual production starts. if their design is approved, molds will be made using those pre-prod. models. depending on what kind of model it is, they use either a mold for metal (cheaper for low-number models such as special characters), or a mold for plastic (very expensive, but since plastic is cheaper than metal, it evens out if you sell loads of models).

resin is i think polystyrol, so something different entirely.

[kalju-luopio]

Ah, intresting. Still it is greeenn stufff and it's nasty. I once made a small ball out of green stuff and stuck it to a wall. Guess which broke first, the ball or the wall? And who said I don't have hobbies!

New terminators huh, has anyone seen them? Have you? Oh, Ahriman, use your magic and show me a new terminator.

P.S. Dimension, I think he meant exactly what you clarified just now.

[Knorretje]

Isn't forgeworld using Resin for their model range ?

[Flancen]

Draken2034 will there be NEW terminators?

[edorien]

I HATE resin models! Resin is hard to convert, badly balanced, nigthmarish for the brushes and near-impossible to glue together!

Gw, stop usin' resin!

Its also a high strength-to-weight ratio, so those expensive forgeworld models don't break, the molds are cheaper, and its lighter.

Those large models would break under their own weight if they were plastic, or white-metal


near-impossible to glue together

Tip :- Lightly Sand (by hand) the edges you intend to glue (use a resin glue).


hard to convert
Not in my experience.
A sharp knife will cut it, and green stuff will stick to it. What else is needed?

[Imperial Tiger]

Make sure you clean the parts before painting and gluing or the paint will not stick. I think you can use vinegar or something to clean them because they come out of the molds with a film on them that makes the paint flake off really easy.

[Wittman]

Its also a high strength-to-weight ratio, so those expensive forgeworld models don't break, the molds are cheaper, and its lighter.

Those large models would break under their own weight if they were plastic, or white-metal


Perhaps the titans would, but I doubt the imperial guard super heavies would, I've build plenty of tanks from other companies that are that size and the plastic actually hold fairly strong.

I hate resin in that I can't use enamels on because of the possbility of it warping the material.

[Dimension]

yeah, I've built a 747 that was a bit longer than my torso, it was out of plastic and held up just fine.

[Brother Walk]

as far as i know, WH models are either metal or plastic, NOT green stuff. it would be even more expensive than resin i suspect.

the reason why you have loads of greenstuff on pre-production models is simple. those are figurines that are sculpted before actual production starts. if their design is approved, molds will be made using those pre-prod. models. depending on what kind of model it is, they use either a mold for metal (cheaper for low-number models such as special characters), or a mold for plastic (very expensive, but since plastic is cheaper than metal, it evens out if you sell loads of models).

resin is i think polystyrol, so something different entirely.

Actually.. Plastic models are not made out of green stuff. They are normally made out of resin, or clay .. The eldar falcon grav tank was made out of balsa wood and putty.

The reason for this is the production process that GW uses for their plastic molds requires models that are about 6X the size of the finished sprue. So those 1.5 inch dwarves were really about 10-12 inches tall when alley sculpted them.

Any model that is made for normal (white metal) production is made from green.

The greens are cured and a master mold is made of it, From this mold (single cast) they make the master tins (as many as they can get before the mold degrades) This process normally destroys the green (because of the heat in making the RTV mold. The tins are then used to press a master production mold, and given over to Ted to lock away. They are irreplacable, as they are the last way to reproduct a figure if everything goes wrong.

[Dimension]

ah, thanks for clarifying.

[whats_true]

Ok, i dont want to sound like a smirf here :smurf:, but what do resin models looke like? (to you smart aliks out there, i dont mean the model but the actual stuff :Slap: ), got any pictures of the resin straight out of the box?

[ShortStroke]

I really wish the smaller Forgeworld stuff was plastic but I understand why it's resin. Forgeworld has a great article on how to work with the resins.

Double Post

Resin looks like resin. It's usually a liquid and is then put into a mold and cured. I could be wrong on this so if I am, please correct me in a nice way :D

[whats_true]

resins...resin. lol

i'll do some research

[DEATH_WATCH]

Is that the stuff they use in those 3d printers

[Draken2034]

yes there will be new termies. ask around on the forums some people have the pics and its been clarified, just dont know when but they are coming. oh wait....i think termies are coming out in two months or so, i asked when the commander was coming out and the guy at GW told me what was coming out at what dates and i think i remember him saying termies in november. dont take the date literally but i do know that there will be new termies.

[Raeven]

I think it's an improper use of the word resin. For one thing, all plastics are resins. It's the type of material used that defines its properties. I believe the "resin" in question is actually vinyl...which is not as clean or easy to work with as polystyrene plastic.

Raeven

[PhoenixLord]

Unless otherwise noted, all Forge World Models are made of resin. Resin is a word range of castable synthetic plastic type materials. The resins we use are ideally suited for making highly detailed complex models. Each part is hand cast using the most advanced techniques and best quality resin to produce models with extremely fine detail. Have you ever actually bought a resin model? They are not vinyl models. Here (http://www.starshipmodeler.com/other/eb_valk.htm) is a link to a site that has a rewiew of a forgeworld kit. It also has pictures of un-painted resin models.

[Gorkamorka]

oh wait, I think im mixing up resin with tin. Tin is shit!

[Raeven]

Have you ever actually bought a resin model? They are not vinyl models.


Calling something resin doesn't indicate what it is made from; just means it's plastic. It's like saying something is made out of wood. Doesn't indicate whether that wood is cherry, cypress, pine, oak, poplar, etc. So when Forgeworld says Resin, they just mean plastic. Could be polypropylene (very unlikely), polyethelene, polystyrene, vinyl, etc. Could even be a mix of different plastics.

Raeven