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cammer
21st Oct 01, 5:12 PM
P. Diddy just used the Homeworld opening choral music in the United We Stand Concert. if you think about it, that song is very fitting with the theme of Homeworld and what happened in America. That makes me want to play homeworld.

Ben Tusi
21st Oct 01, 5:21 PM
Dude, the song your talking about was composed WAAAAAY before Homeworld was even thought of. The song is called "Adagio for Strings", and it is intended to be sad piece.

Just to burst your bubble.

cammer
21st Oct 01, 5:26 PM
I'm listening to the concert and heard something Homeworld related. I know it was composed before HW. What bubble did you burst?

Ben Tusi
21st Oct 01, 5:30 PM
Never mind my pompousness, you just made it sound like the music was made for Homeworld.

Bah, welcome to the Relic Boards, or something.

cammer
21st Oct 01, 5:33 PM
I've been around since spring 1998 but forgot my old password. :D

Ben Tusi
21st Oct 01, 5:36 PM
You make me look dumber with every post! STOP IT!

Omi-kun
21st Oct 01, 5:38 PM
That happened to me several times.

Is Adagio for Strings the one at the very end of the credits?

"Truth is a simple place..." That one? I never could figure out which one it was, it was never on the audio cd from Game of the Year.

Firelance
21st Oct 01, 5:41 PM
The end credits is called "Ladder". It's performed by Yes and I believe the CD is the same name as that song.

Ben Tusi
21st Oct 01, 5:41 PM
When you see your big purdy mothership at the begining of the game, and listen to the voices, those voices are singing (or choraling, or whatever their doing) "Adagio for Strings."

Mnementh
22nd Oct 01, 4:56 AM
Originally posted by Firelance
The end credits is called "Ladder". It's performed by Yes and I believe the CD is the same name as that song.

The end Song is called "Homeworld (The Ladder)" and the album is The Ladder :)

Alpha_Monkey
22nd Oct 01, 6:17 AM
Um...sorry to interrupt, but...is anyone else seeing this?
50036 posts, BloodDragon?
WTF?

x-crispy
22nd Oct 01, 1:50 PM
lol

Yes, I see it too.

molo
22nd Oct 01, 3:53 PM
ono i believe that discussing postcounts is a BAN. bewarez.

Harmanoff
22nd Oct 01, 3:54 PM
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Scramble scramble scramble! Phew.. need to lay of the coffee btw...

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22nd Oct 01, 4:29 PM
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Fissure
22nd Oct 01, 5:03 PM
Originally posted by Tygre
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Omi-kun
22nd Oct 01, 6:51 PM
oh, I thought that was just the beginning part, because the last 3 minutes is really slow and there's a long silence between the two parts. Thanks, I love that music, my fav from the very beginning.

Is that composed by Yes as well?

Maverick_3058
22nd Oct 01, 7:36 PM
If you're referring to Agiado, no.

Agnostos
22nd Oct 01, 10:43 PM
I may be just talking semantics but the opening theme to HW is Agnus Dei. It is the last chant in the Catholic Mass to the Trinity. The rendition in HW is an adiago for strings.


This is the only MP3 version of it I have found.

http://www.glcoti.com/music/HW/AgnusDei.mp3

Fallen-Solo-ATC
23rd Oct 01, 10:37 AM
Are you all talking about the "Adagio for Strings" by Samuel Barber that was made (even more) famous when Oliver Stone used it magnificently in the film "Platoon"?

That is one of my favorite pieces - across all genres.

If that's the piece of music your referring to, I think that it is not in Homeworld - at least not in it's traditional form.

I think I know the music in HW you're speaking of, and while it's similar in it's mood, tempo and key, it's not the same.

The "Adagio for Strings" by Samuel Barber, I believe, is still under copyright and is the property of his estate. I seriously doubt that they'd license it to a video game.

Of course I've been wrong before.

ÜberJumper
23rd Oct 01, 1:21 PM
Samuel Barber originally wrote Adiago for Strings in 1938. There's been many renditions, one version by him was set to a choral arrangement using the Agnus Dei (literally Lamb of God) portion of Christian Mass. This style is the HW version, if you've installed the HW Screensaver, you can find the MP3 in your windows directory.

This music is very familiar to a lot of the world, especially americans, as it was played at Roosevelt and Kennedy's funerals.

Askjeeves.com search for samuel barber adiago strings agnus dei to get the dirt.

Rapter09
23rd Oct 01, 1:26 PM
You guys should spend some time and invest in the The Ladder. Good CD, and Yes makes good music.

It's good to see the Homeworld team has good musical tastes.

If not for the music, than for the sort of interactive Homeworld thing in there with a bunch of movies relating to HW. Yes really got into this whole thing, they have all the Kiith's logo on the front-side of the spine. Yes fans who have never heard of Homeworld must think they are insane...

edit: Ahh that reminds me, If you have purchased the Homeworld: Game Of The Year edition you would have gotten the music CD, which has Agaido on it, as well as a number of other serene Homeworld-related musical peices.

ceejayoz
23rd Oct 01, 2:50 PM
Originally posted by Agnostos
I may be just talking semantics but the opening theme to HW is Agnus Dei. It is the last chant in the Catholic Mass to the Trinity. The rendition in HW is an adiago for strings.


This is the only MP3 version of it I have found.

http://www.glcoti.com/music/HW/AgnusDei.mp3
Adagio for Strings is the melody. It was composed by Samuel Barber to be played by a string orchestra or quartet.

The choral version uses the words from Agnus Dei set to the melody from Adagio for Strings. So it's a little bit of both :)

The strings-only version can be heard in the movie "Platoon" btw

Fallen-Solo-ATC
24th Oct 01, 12:44 PM
I actually saw (heard) Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings performed by the Greenboro Chamber Orchestra at one of the big churches here in 1999.

It's a very sad piece.

PoorPirate
28th Oct 01, 6:05 PM
its a good song to listen to when you just want to sit down and think... i used one program to join the strings and choral togthor, sounds a bit funky when they arent synced bit its overall pretty good

Tronno
29th Oct 01, 5:34 AM
Bah to you all - choral = fail. The strings version is much better, imho.

PoorPirate
31st Oct 01, 10:26 AM
yea the string version is much better

Superconductor
31st Oct 01, 10:38 AM
I've done a lot of singing in choirs throughout college and I always have had a fondness for the classics.

That is what struck me when I first started playing Homeworld. The opening music was haunting. The graphics, of course, amazed me to no end, but it was the music that completed the picture.

Some games use an annoying, grating "techno-pop" sound track, if you will, that just detracts from the game. Another game that really made good use of classical style was Total Annihilation. If anyone from Relic happens across this post, please don't change the style of music in HW2.

Superconductor

Ghent
5th Nov 01, 2:50 PM
:confused: erg, urk, eck.... that Yes song is the one and only fault of HW, imho. There's been a couple maps made with that as the pre-set song, .... i promptly edited them to remove it and use some other track. It's so LOUD and obnoxious, you can't even hear your ships or command feedback (unless you decrease the music volume settings a LOT). It's also a pretty long song, which doesn't help its loud and annoying qualities any.
It just seems very.... pop... and not good pop like 80's music, but bad pop.
I know some people just love it, you're entitled to your opinions, and this is mine :) The rest of the music is wonderful.

Athexx
5th Nov 01, 5:55 PM
The string (original) version of Adagio for Strings was also used as the background music for an exhibit I saw at the Tate Modern Museum in London a year ago.

The exhibit was a video of a NAKED MAN JUMPING UP AND DOWN IN SLOW MOTION.

Suffice to say I have no further desire to hear the non-choral version again.

Langy
5th Nov 01, 6:24 PM
Originally posted by Athexx
The exhibit was a video of a NAKED MAN JUMPING UP AND DOWN IN SLOW MOTION


ARE YOU SERIOUS!?

That, Athexx, would be pretty damned nasty...

But, pre tell, why would they make an exhibit of that?



Also, Yes music is good.

However, Agnus Dei is better:P

zenogias
5th Nov 01, 6:52 PM
I liked the Yes ending song because I found it to be perfect for the ending. Homeworld itself is sort of an homage to Battlestar Galactica and, perhaps, other sci-fi from that era. Homeworld (The Ladder), to me, just fit the entire mood perfectly. Besides, the words fit very well into the theme of the game itself, as both the song and the game are very much about searching for identity/self/home.

Now, as for making the song background music for a map . . . :eek:

Random thought: try playing Homeworld and concentrating more on the mood and atmosphere of the game, as well as the feel of the plot and the implied themes, rather than the space battles. I'll tell you now, it's a whole new experience.

disco stu
6th Nov 01, 1:34 AM
i was watching the live performances show thing on MTV a couple weeks ago and Puff Daddy used this at the beginning of the performance he did with Sting at one of the award shows.

OmegaRenegade
6th Nov 01, 10:10 AM
You guys seen all the nifty goodies that are stashed away on that Yes cd?

Ash
7th Nov 01, 8:06 PM
We all know that Adagio for Strings is much better then Agnus Dei. I have played Adagio in orchestras and it is simply better. No questions about it.

OmegaRenegade
8th Nov 01, 11:42 AM
I love the Yes song, was it written just for HW the lyrics match up so perfectly its amazing. And I love the mood of the game as well, which is why I'm kinda worried about HW2, the main reason I love HW so much is the epic mood feel to it, its not just a strat game, its more, its like star wars almost, or blade runner, I'm wondering if relic will be able to duplicate that, geez I hope they can.