Relic's Xbox 360 Game!

[NovaBurn]

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050516/lam074.html


CALABASAS HILLS, Calif., May 16 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- THQ Inc. (Nasdaq: THQI - News) and its award winning development studio Relic Entertainment today announced The Outfit(TM), an explosive squad-based action game for the Xbox 360(TM) video game and entertainment system from Microsoft. Combining intense squad-based combat and easy to use strategic gameplay elements with the cinematic intensity of a blockbuster movie, The Outfit is a lethal combination of high action and strategy. Set within war ravaged Europe during World War II, the game takes players behind enemy lines, battling the Nazi War Machine through a variety of larger than life combat missions. Scheduled to release holiday 2005, the game will make its public debut at the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) May 18-20 in THQ Booth #1046.


Another WW2 game? Looks interesting. We shall see.

edit: The game's website launches the day it gets unveiled at E3 so get your refresh buttons ready.
http://www.theoutfitgame.com/

[Handarazuur]

Woot?

[TheGeneral]

Yay. WWII strikes again...

TheGeneral

[The Preacher]

Sounds interesting. Looks like Relic has WW2 on their minds. :D

[EarthBorn]

Relic seems desperate for leading the WW2 games section.

[Noir]

For better or worse I suppose ;)

[Sabin]

Sounds promising, but at least we'll see more of it at E3.

[Soupy]

Screenie

http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_8033.php/THQ_and_Relic_announce_The_Outfit_for_Xbox_360

[The Preacher]

Heh, "www.theoutfitgame.com" sounds like a Barbie game.

[the_sidewinder]

1) WW2
2) Video Games
3) ????
4) Profit!

hehe, I bet that this game will be pretty good, though, I have confidence in relic

<3 relic!

[bluevorlon]

Screenie

http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/...it_for_Xbox_360

BOOM!

[Alliance]

who turned on the sexy?

[Starblade]

I get the feeling that CoH and The Outfit are going to be intertwined somehow...

[The Preacher]

I get the feeling that CoH and The Outfit are going to be intertwined somehow...

Sure, Relic can use the same research and possibly some of the same art resources (like concept art and stuff). :)

[Alliance]

they can probably use the same AI too.

[The Preacher]

I would guess they will not be using the same AI alliance. From the sound of things, The Outfit is a squad based game that probably focuses on smaller battles along the lines of Full Spectrum Warrior or Brothers in Arms. Company of Heroes is a full scale RTS that will focus on larger scale combat. I don't imagine that the AI for one would apply to the other.

[BrettMan]

Another damn WW2 game? Come on Relic. Give us something we haven't seen before.

Sorry, just a little bitter. I know not to judge before I have actually played it, but still. You can only do so much with WW2 and games. And most of that ground has already been covered.

[0dyguru]

Cool!!!!!

I’m going to apply for a job testing for Darth Gates today because of this news.

~0dyguru

[Noir]

Another damn WW2 game? Come on Relic. Give us something we haven't seen before.

Sorry, just a little bitter. I know not to judge before I have actually played it, but still. You can only do so much with WW2 and games. And most of that ground has already been covered.

My feelings are somewhat the same,though I'm hoping that they'll go back to the stars after WA,COH,and The Outfit, preferrably with something different...perhaps something not as hardcore...something anime?

Maybe,maybe :)

[General Blaze]

Damn. another WW2 game. They must have WW2 fever. :D

I secretly hoped their XBox360 game would involved big stompy robots. :p

[Alski]

You guys may be thinking "...oh man, another WW2 game?", but wait to see the stuff from E3 before you jump to any conclusions.

I think you guys are really going to dig it!

[ceejayoz]

Congrats on the announcement, Relic folks! :)

[General Blaze]

It's not that, Alski. Your PC RTS title's a WW2 game, and now your Xbox360 game as well is a WW2 game. Isn't that going a bit too redundant with WW2? :p

As for your XBox360 game, I like the sound of the gameplay mechanics. Somehow I knew it would have something to do with Full Spectrum Warrior. THat game was the first console RTS to be very succesfull. ^^

[dmille]

There are probably a number of ways to do WWII. Also, who knows how much market overlap there'll be. PC RTS and Console squad-based game?

[Soulblighter]

Sounds interesting... almost like a Full Spectrum Warrior in WW2 and i loved FSW.

[Alski]

We here at Relic love you guys so I can assure you we wouldn’t put our hard work and devotion into anything that we didn’t think would blow you guys away.

I look forward to hearing your E3 impressions, speculations and other general Outfit gossip. ;)

[IgnusDei]

i hope Relic's got other projects in the works: WW2 art isn't my forte.

[KON Air]

Uh... If doesn't have altered history âla Silent Strom or based on Axis, even did that it is (not just) another game in WW2. Personally I'm pretty fed up with WW2, Gulf War, this, that... all of the happened stuff; I mean some alteration is always fine, a bit fantastic, an unlikely twist, for example Axis made it to Britian, or even made their way to America, or Russia and China took over the role of Germany and instead of coldwar ww2 contiunes, etc, etc. Plus even with alteration, I don't think being the ultimate squad based action game will stop the echoes of "...ding, one more ww2 game" since no matter how good and satisfying it will be it is a WW2 game.

Gamers will buy it, play it. Gamers will like it if it is good. But WW2 games became watching the same movie for 100th time. Always funny if you are accually watching it for the 100th. but not fun as the first few times.

I'm fed up with all WW2 arsenal (expect armor). More over I'm fed up with everything about "village warfare". Especially with, "I sense a tank, hurry up, use the bazooka" and "cover the sucidial solider while he is running towards enemy machine guns." parts and their variations. Those clichés are pretty much unavoidable. Accually tons of clichés are unavoidable in WW2 games.

As Thq seems pretty happy with GW licenses another wh40k title or a homeworld title in space or ground would have made my day (year/s).

Ehm... that's all of my rambling (as it is rambling ingoring the foruth paragraph is recommended :)) ever on Outfit before getting a chance to play it (which seems so far away). I got a ticket for SW Ep3 on 19th., and fed up with all that repeating samethings over and over in WW2, forgive me, I'm one with force now :elephant:

[PhoenixLord]

:( great another WWII game, oh well at least its made by Relic.

[IgnusDei]

i demand Kerberos Panzer Cops.

black armor+red goggles=BADASS.

[Someguy]

i demand the pink panzer tanks!

[Mr Carrot]

Damn I was hoping for a Falklands FPS, Operation: Argy Bargy.

[A176]

does thq mandate what relic develops now?

[ceejayoz]

If not outright mandate, they certainly would have a huge say in the decision - they hold the pursestrings, after all.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

The press release kind of describes as Company of Heroes meets Splinter Cell.

At least that's the feeling I get.

That's one fine explosion though ;)

[krjal]

I know I'm just echoing others' thoughts here but...

Okay, another WWII game. If it wasn't Relic making it I wouldn't be interested in the slightest, BUT, I'll give it a chance just for you guys :D

ps. please please please do something different next time! I almost never buy WWII stuff anymore and while I'll make an exception for your latest stuff I KNOW you all can be so much more creative without this 'realistic' and 'historical' nonsense.

[Soulblighter]

We have one screenshot and a vague idea of gameplay... i think everyone should just wait to see what happens over the course of E3. Probably the devs are happy to move into a different genre (away from sci fi and rts). Dont get me wrong they are known as an rts studio, however i would imagine that a few of them are quite happy to do something different for a change.

[Qwaar-Jet]

Even though they stated they would never deter from RTS.

At least it's not something i'm interested in, so I don't have to buy an X-Box 2.

Unless at E3 they announce that the expansion pack for the Outfit allows you to go into space and fly large capital ships, I don't really care what they announce.

[briareos]

i demand Kerberos Panzer Cops.

Eh, that would be cool.

BTW...action game? Mhmmm, I just hope it's some twists in its gameplay, a plain-and-simple third person shooter, FPS, Splinter Cell or Op. Flashpoint clone isn't in Relic style. So far nothing that will make me buy the X Box 360, let's see if it will change as soon more infos are released.

And...why "the outfit"? It's a strange name. Sotry-related? Gameplay-related? Out of good names?

[Vijil]

I hereby officially rename this game "The Publisher Made Us Do It".

While I have every confidence that Relic will do their damnedest to make this a really, really good WW2 game, I'm still somewhat unsurprised. WW2 games sell. WW2 games make money. Squad based tactical shooters make money and are currently fashionable. XBOX games make money, and XBOX360 looks likely to be a market leader.

THEREFORE the publisher (THQ) will want relic to do a squad based tactical shooter set in WW2, for the XBOX360. Relic, an RTS specialist? Not if the publisher says otherwise.

I *HATE* game publishers. Publishers want money, and the way they see to do that safely is to finance clone games. Games with proven business models. Unoriginal tripe. I'm sorry to say it folks, but while Relic will certainly make good games in future, they will never make an original concept again.

Alski, while I don't doubt that you'll do a really good job on TO, it's not going to be particularly original.

Can you give me any hope for the future of original relic games?

Didn't think so.

[briareos]

Can you give me any hope for the future of original relic games?

Probably the deal is something like "the Outfit for your your NSP4". Company of Heroes look amazing though I'd have preferred something not set during WW2, but CoH and TO are probably baits to let more people know about Relic so that the NSP4 will get more attention or just games made to get money to finance NSP4.

[ÜberJumper]

Errr squad based shooters ARE RTS games.

Besides, this one IS RTS.

[Tyconius]

Is it gonna be Xbox only?

[Vijil]

so is Doom, if you want to get technical. It involves some strategy, and is real time. RTS = controlling stuff without being stuff. I think most people would agree that this is not an RTS in the sense that Relic meant when they said they would specialise in being RTS developers. This, perhaps, is an FPRTS, but not an RTS in the usual sense.

My point still stands. Relic will not make another original game, unless a Relic dev wishes to tell me otherwise.

[ÜberJumper]

Vijill:

I think you're confusing "Original IP" with "Original Game".

I can think of a single IP (Katamari Damacy) that's not based off another IP or set of IP for any recent game.

Nothing Relic's made comes close to being entirely original with the exception of Homeworld, and even then, there's shades of a lot of other IP there. What was truely unique was the interface for the HW series, and perhaps the animatics.

[ionfish]

No, I think Vijil is talking about original as in groundbreaking, as in not doing the same thing everyone else has done already (or near enough). As in making a game in a setting that's not been done to death, exploring new and revolutionary game mechanics (like that Homeworld game did).

[The Preacher]

After Impossible Creatures and Homeworld 2, I would guess it will be a while before we see someone willing to risk a large amount of cash on a risky new gameplay formula. Hopefully, after Relic gets more successful titles under their belts (so far, Company of Heroes looks like a good start) they will be allowed to innovate again. Until that time, I guess we'll have to settle for smaller changes such as destructible terrain (which actually has the potential to be a pretty big change).

I'd love to see some unique IP though. As much as I enjoy Dawn of War and WWII, I'd love to explore some new worlds. Relic has some tremendous creative talent and I'd love to see that tapped into again.

[KON Air]

THEREFORE the publisher (THQ) will want relic to do a squad based tactical shooter set in WW2, for the XBOX360. Relic, an RTS specialist? Not if the publisher says otherwise.

I accually don't see much harm in this, since (as far as I know) Thq doesn't have "interfering everything" and "always telling developer what to do" habits, I think (accually wish) Outfit as a "financial insurance" for daring projects in future. WW2 games, no matter how much some of us are fed up with, sell like hot cakes in steppes, cold water in deserts, umbrellas in tropical rain forests... You know, this market doesn't consist of people like us, exploring new and revolutionary game mechanics are quite risky in terms of money (like that Impossible Creatures game wasn't the success it should have been).

So, that everyone is quite upset with it being a ww2 game but have high hopes for the game... cool...

[Void]

XBOX :((( i'll afford that in about 1000 yrs ,sure...
good thing there is CoH...

[Noir]

I'd love to see some unique IP though. As much as I enjoy Dawn of War and WWII, I'd love to explore some new worlds. Relic has some tremendous creative talent and I'd love to see that tapped into again.

I'd love to personally see something about WH40k dark but in space :) .

But no Emo kids plz :D

[BrettMan]

Thats what they should have done. Battlefleet Gothic. It would be like Homeworld on acid, crack and viagra. Okay maybe that was a little too far. But the idea is still great. And you can't predict what it will look like, unlike all world war 2 games.

[Noir]

Well yes,though I'm assuming that it's going to be an original universe thing :)

[Kaldaris]

Just one question, Why Outfit?

[SeerCouncil]

To be honest, I am entirely disappointed with this announcment-firstly, Relic was always good at design and WWII-themed games require no design and storywriting at all-just some research. Secondly, I frown upon any XBox-only games, as their main purpose on the market is to promote the attempt at taking PC game business under complete Microsoft's control-and apparently for the worst as XBox control scheme and overall tech specifications allow for only a few pretty limited game generes-you can't make a RTS(and especially a space-based one...) game for the console, FPSes have to be much slower paced-try playing say first PC Doom3, then the XBox version-you'll notice the difference immediatly etc, finally, currently the game developers control the advancment of the technology for whole video game industry-if Xbox should become the mainstay of computer games, Microsoft will control the technological progress for them halting it to a crawl to suit their economic intrests. Thirdly, two WWII games by Relic at once and one of them a XBox FPS looks very unnatural to me-something tells me THQ has the complete control of the developer now, which is very sad-now they'll make Relic develop not original games as previously, but just popular games-the WWII theme proves this point. :(

[TheDeadlyShoe]

If I had to guess GW would license BFG IP seperately from WH40k.

[Starblade]

Secondly, I frown upon any XBox-only games, as their main purpose on the market is to promote the attempt at taking PC game business under complete Microsoft's control

That is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

[Noir]

If I had to guess GW would license BFG IP seperately from WH40k.

We gotta send Moge and Nelson some copies of HW2 fast.

[SeerCouncil]

Starblade, I didn't say a successful attempt. But as I said-of course Microsoft would want to dominate the video game market-who wouldn't ;) Especially since any console game devs are dependent on the console's maker-for the dev tools/licensing-unlike the PC games which are dependent only on their developers-means unlike with PC games in which only the publisher/developer get their share of income, the console's maker gets additional income as well-both from the licensing and sales of consoles provoked by a good console title coming out(such as a wave of XBox purchases following release of Halo/Halo 2). Of course I may be mistaken, but let's not derail this thread any further :)

[A176]

seer: so then Sony has absolute dominance of their market considering that very little of their original game titles make it to PC?

Outfit, if released on PC might make money because its currently the only next-gen game WW2 game with spectacular graphics; it will be a hit on consoles because, well, WW2 games on consoles just plain suck (Brothers in Arms might make it thou).

the simple fact remains - THQ is looking for money and its obvious they're reaching into every segment to achieve that.

[SeerCouncil]

Apparently, I'll need to continue my thread derailing ;)
XBox is completely compatible with PCs unlike PS2. Thus we even have a version of Linux compatible with XBox. Porting an XBox game to the PC requires a minimum amount of modifications. With KotOR II which was in development as a primarily a XBox game, most porting modifications were improvments to graphics.
Sony did not attempt to lure a maximum amount of developers they can into making/porting games for their console-Sony didn't try making deals with Bioware/id/Relic/Bungee etc for that purpose-most devs working for Sony have never had a hand in making PC games-Microsoft is just trying to get the most successful PC developers into making XBox-exclusive games in order to increase their console sales especially among the PC gamers who are very familiar with the previous games created by the devs in question. Microsoft just has a completly different marketing strategy-they try to get as many PC gamers into consoles as possible-potentially disrupting PC game development in the future. PS/PS2 feels confortable in its niche without making any effect on PC games development-they already have their share of customers and their only competitor is XBox-they don't see PC gaming as a marketing resource to exploit.
BTW, as good devs as Relic are, how risky can it be for a RTS-only company unknown in the FPS market to make an attempt at making a FPS? Not sure the "financial insurance" theory is completely believable if we look at it this way.

[Starblade]

My Xbox isn't PC compatible. Then again, I had to kick it, shake it, and drop it to get it to work again. :/

And Relic is taking a pretty big risk with The Outfit, but it looks like they can pull it off.

[SeerCouncil]

PC Compatible doesn't mean it processes PC CDs/DVDs automatically(though it can be possible with XBox Linux installed)-it means it is built on the same architecture as the PC-means it has roughly the same components as the normal desktop PC, main difference is the preinstalled firmware and OS...well the control scheme too.
Starblade, I'd recommend you to check this website: http://www.xbox-linux.org/ -it does tell you how to convert your XBox into a functional PC.
A quote from it:


The Xbox is a legacy-free PC by Microsoft that consists of an Intel Celeron 733 MHz CPU, an nVidia GeForce 3MX, 64 MB of RAM, a 8/10 GB hard disk, a DVD drive and 10/100 Ethernet. As on every PC, you can run Linux on it.

There was a rumor some time ago on the net that it was possible to make a boot CD out of XBoxes OS and play XBox games on a PC via it.
So, if there is nil difference between a PC and XBox, why outside of marketing purposes would someone make XBox-exclusive products? PS/PS2 can justify it with their low compatibility with the traditional PCs (though there are some PS/PS2 emulators that do work somewhat I won't be referring to those now, as any platform can be potentially emulated on the PC). Also so far I heard XBox 360 still retains all of its predcessor's architecture and isn't that much different from the PC as well.
Ok...this is my last :offtopic: post in this thread, if anyone wants to argue about this anymore, best to go to the general forum ;)

[Soupy]

http://thqate3.com/

Click on Thursday and watch yours truly give a quick video interview!

[Deathscythe61]

So, should I point out the fact that XBOX runs on a stripped and modded win2k kernal? :P

[FIG]

Are you guys going to gives a Warhammer 40,000 RTS game with graphics this detailed? Please say yes, PLEASE.

[Starblade]

Apparently not for a while, considering how there are no plans for one.

[sajuukar]

http://thqate3.com/

Click on Thursday and watch yours truly give a quick video interview!

A reimagining of WW2?! That sounds cool. Multiplayer? Always fun. I am so very close to being convinced, it's just that part about purchasing an xbox 360 for some hundred dollars...

[SlickNick]

Just don't spend it on another expensive PC-video card... ;)

[Viperslayer]

Homeworld!!! Homeworld!!! Homeworld!!!

[Moe]

Click on Thursday and watch yours truly give a quick video interview!

I had no idea soupy was this sexy. RAWR!

[7alon]

the outfit better be as good as it looks cos im sick of being sucked in by good cinamatics :banghead:

[Starblade]

It wouldn't really matter if it was a good game, then. You'd buy it anyway.

[FIG]

Another Relic game I have to buy. THANKS ALOT GUYS. :) I can't believe Games Workshop has not given Blur Studios the go ahead to make a full length CGI movie based on the Warhammer 40,000 universe even after the Blur guys expressed interest making one in the 3D magazines article.

[Viperslayer]

Is it Xbox live enabled? Cus I play live and I plan on gettting 360 the day it comes out. Got the money set aside and all. Hopefully they would release a howeworld game on live....that would be...intresting. But very unlikely.

I love war games like Halo2.

[Starblade]

Yes, it's Live enabled. And I'd rather not play HW with the cesspool of idiots that makes up Live right now.

[FIG]

With the Xbox 360 LIVE and its numerous features like the standard voice over IP and the new video over IP, I am editing my friends list down hard. I don't want to play with frat boys who will use every chance they get to use a camera in a disgusting and improper way.

[Starblade]

Good point. That's why I always make sure there's no one like that on my list.

[Droog_Janus]

I saw some footage of The Outfit at E3 and I was well impressed!

Oh and just a little plug for those Xbox fans out there - www.britxbox.co.uk!

[Viperslayer]

Is it going to be Xbox Live enabled? If so I love you relic!!! Well... just more!

:( My xbox died today. R.I.P little buddy..:'(

WAAAAA WAAAAAA noooooooooooooooooo my poor babie!!!!!!!

[Starblade]

I answered that question a few posts ago, Viper.

[Erikjust]

i have heard that Sony should be out whit there Ps3 a few months after the X-Box
Which one of them will be strongest and best?

some say it will be ps3 other that it is the X-Box so what is the correct answer the old X-box was a little more powerful then the Ps2 is it the same chase whit the next ones

[Starblade]

Wait a few months and you'll find out just how powerful the 360 is. Wait a few more, and you'll find out how powerful the PS3 is.

[b01t_thr0w3r]

From the stats I saw the PS3 is supposed to be alot more powerful than the xbox 360. The graphics card alone is supposed to be faster than anything on the market, makes me want to throw rock at my alienware.

[Qwaar-Jet]

Doesn't make any difference if it's too hard to program for, and that is apparantly the case.Sony have shot themselves in the foot.Not that I really care, because i'm buying the Revolution.

[Erikjust]

Well not really from what I have heard Sony is developing a certain program that should make it easier for companies to develop games for the consol then it where when the ps2 came on the market from what I have seen one of the first games to ps3 will be Unreal.
But what about Nintendo anything new from them I bet you anything that they soon to will be out whit a gamecube 2.
Though there age of glory have long since past they will not lay still and die but they will fight to the end.
Resident evil 4 and Zelda twig light of the princess and Metroprime well I think these games clearly shows that Nintendo isn’t quite dead yet.

though i wonder how fucking powerful can these consoles be and if this continues is it possible that they one day will make pc games obsolete

[Starblade]

I'm glad we forgot about Metroid Prime, considered by many to be on par with Halo.

[SeerCouncil]

if this continues is it possible that they one day will make pc games obsolete
They won't. For sure. At least I can gurantee it for the next 15 or so years.
The new GPU NVidia(they also designed the PS3's GPU) announced and began shipping is already more powerful than the PS3's and supports SLI-means you can install two such GPUs at once for a 60% or so performance boost. And we even don't know what will the next ATI-designed GPU feature. Also, in a few months we'll have the new physical processor units availible. These will allow for completely realistic physics, which do not draw upon CPU/RAM resources, and that is unattainable on any next-gen consoles especially with their poor performance in-order CPUs which even can't support complex AI from what I heard. Finally, all the PCs are upgradable and will always be such...
So anyway, consoles remain superior to PCs only for a month or two next to their release.

[Alex Drake]

As usual Seer, you can't guarantee anything of the sort. Its cost versus performance. Console manufacturers have continued to show the will and ability to subsidize the cost of their own machines. As consoles move closer and closer to PCs, its likely their role as specialist machines will indeed surpass the personal computer in terms of graphical ability and elements that relate to game performance on a near constant level.

[SeerCouncil]

Consoles are updated much more slowly than the PC components. XBox was released in 1999 and XBox 360 was announced in 2005. That's six years. PC manufacturers went through three(or is it four?) generations of GPUs in that time. The console specs are designed to be able to withstand the number of years before the next console release. Not likely that new consoles will be released any more frequently because of competition that exists on the console market and the amount of financial effort it takes to introduce a new console. PC market is dynamic and new innovative technologies are introduced rather frequently in comparison to the stagnant console market which relies on having superior specs at the time of its releases. As long as PCs continue evolving, they will always become superior in between the rare console releases. Also let me point out that the prices for PC components drop over time as well. The current next-gen consoles haven't really "moved closer to the PCs", they are about the same distance from them as the original XBox was at its time of release ;)

[FIG]

This thread is about the Xbox 360 game guys, not about your silly little arguement about PC and console technology. Anyways having seen more footage, I am impressed even more than I was before. I have my Xbox 360 already paid for and this game will definetly be one of the ones I will be buying at launch.

[Starblade]

No, this thread is about Relic's new game for the Xbox 360. And yes, the game is very impressive.

[Soupy]

XBox was released in 1999

XBox was released to retail in November, 2001

[FIG]

Maybe hes thinking about the PS2

[gimpy2toes]

From the stats I saw the PS3 is supposed to be alot more powerful than the xbox 360. The graphics card alone is supposed to be faster than anything on the market, makes me want to throw rock at my alienware.
Well according to Ign.com the 360 has better performance. here is the article http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html. but on the topic of this thread. I cant wait to get this game it just looks so good.