View Full Version : Why Do Falcons only have 800~ hp?
26th May 05, 7:48 AM
boggles my mind... Less HP then a Brightlance Platform, and is supposed to be a Transport???
The Falcon and Fire Prism use the Exact Same Chassis with just a different payload.
Makes no sense to me. This should be addressed. i'd rather see a Fire Prism Transporting, then it can scatter the enemies before releasing Infantry. Yes, i'm aware that would be unbalanced, And quite awful.
PS. Nerf Bright Lances, Buff Falcons, Balance HP between Falcon and Fire Prism.
26th May 05, 7:56 AM
I think it has "only" 893 hp because it's a transport with GUNS. Furthermore it's the only useful transport with guns. It has brightlance and shuriken catapult(?) by default, and can be upgraded with a starcannon, which is very good against monsters and space marines. It can also jump twice and it's fast, too. It does not need a hp boost because of it's speed and weapons. Also it's the best transport of all of them. For instance the rhino has only 500 hp or so and no guns. :drive:
26th May 05, 8:00 AM
bc the game balance comes before the fluff. the falcon already has INSANE damage values for its price and how early you can get it out (too much in my opinion... it makes the vyper redundant and obsolete) AND for being a "lowly" transport. giving it any more HP would seriously imbalance it without moving it up the tech tree or majorly increasing its cost.
although its unlikely, i wouldnt mind seeing the vyper move to the falcons place, and the falcon moved to the vypers place with an aspect stone and unit price similar to the wraithlords, but give it 3000 HP of veh_med armor. HOWEVER, if this was done, theyd have to nerf fire prism shuriken catapults (which i think STILL needs to be done regardless once again) in order to make a clear distinction between artillery tank (FP) and battle tank (falcon). right now the FP does it all.
26th May 05, 7:18 PM
Rhinos cost less than half though.
And with the holofield upgrade Falcon can rival SM Land Speeders, its equivalent. The reason you miss is cost. Compare it to how much a Prism costs.
GRIM, the prism was nerfed enough (they still have only 1 tele). It's not really artillery. It has the worst artillery attack (biggest reload) and the shorter range. Range 38 mind you. Less than SM missiles (45). Hell less than missile turrets (40). Eldar is the only race that can't outdistance static-D. If you give the Prism range 60 like the Tank or 80 like the Defiler (and attack ground) then you're more than welcome to nerf the catapults again.
Personally I prefer to make Falcons and Prisms similar. Similar stones (falcon's cheaper, vyper no stone) and around 2000 hitpoints (not light and not heavy either). Both should carry troops. Prism more of a long range thing and Falcon more of Jump in battle to deliver troops (and kill PSM). Both costing 2 pop and about 150/300. The Falcon should cost less actually but have a choice of BL or starcannon (starts with neither) that makes it cost as much as Prism eventually. Wraithlord scaled to be main tank, damage sink. Perhaps monster_high armour and faster speed (20). Maybe an ability to boost speed for a short time. WL should be healed by web gates.
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