Ati Catalyst drivers links

[BERSERK3R]

I have read that there are some performance issues in dow with sertain ati drivers, that's why I made a list of links to some ati drivers, so it's easy to find them.
I think these are the most used driver versions, if you think there are more then let me know.
The links should be ok, but if there is a link that's not refering to the right driver let me know.
You can find the Omega drivers under the catalyst versions.

Links:

www.omegadrivers.net
www.guru3d.com


Catalyst v4.12:

with Control Center (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=933)

Catalyst v5.1:

N/A yet

* Omega (2.6.0.5a) (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=980)

Catalyst v5.2:

Normal (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=988)

with Control Center (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=989)

Catalyst v5.3:

N/A yet

Catalyst v5.4:

Normal (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1031)

with Control Center (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1032)

* Omega (2.6.2.5) (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1056)

Catalyst v5.5:

Normal (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1074)

with Control Center (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1073)

with Media Center (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1076)

Catalyst v5.6:

N/A yet

* Omega v2.6.42 (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1114)

Catalyst v5.7:

N/A yet

* Omega (2.6.53) (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1138)

Catalyst v5.8:

with Control Panel (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1159)

with Control Center (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1157)

* Omega (2.6.61) (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1178)

Catalyst v5.9:

with Control Panel (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1188)

with Control Center (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1187)

* Omega (2.6.71) (http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=14&go=giveme&dwn_id=140)

Catalyst v5.10:

with Control Panel (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1216)

with Control Center (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1217)

with Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004/2005 (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1220)

* Omega (2.6.75a) cat 5.10a (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1230)

Catalyst v5.11:

with Control Panel (http://support.ati.com/ics/support/DLRedirect.asp?fileIDExt=64dc9a6c0360fbe40c49a20e4c0aaa6f&accountID=737&deptID=894)

with Control Center (http://support.ati.com/ics/support/DLRedirect.asp?fileIDExt=9964364bfd2b38643a0b41b981c01f60&accountID=737&deptID=894)

* Omega (2.6.83) (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1270)

Catalyst v5.12:

with Control Center (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1273)

with Control Panel (http://support.ati.com/ics/support/DLRedirect.asp?fileIDExt=24e709bb46c4ae9841eecac2a9e8c503&accountID=737&deptID=894)

* Omega (2.6.87) (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1277)

Catalyst v5.13 BETA:

with Control Center (http://www.chip.de/downloads/c1_downloads_13013947.html)

[TBS]

Excellent - even with google it can be tricky finding older driver versions. I award you a gold star and this thread a sticky :).

[Ginger_Mijango]

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=18

a mirror with more of the same drivers and some others. should anyone need even older drivers than are already listed then those too are here.

you should also be able to get a few over at www.fileshack.com it does require you to register, but ive been registered for almost a year and it does not send any spam e-mails and the other generic rubbish you get from similar sites

[BERSERK3R]

I have added some Omega driver versions of the Catalyst drivers.

[TBS]

Thanks berserker :)

I would recommend that people try the various catalyst drivers first and then try the omegas if they are still having problems.

Users not having any problems but wanting to improve their performance can try out the latest omegas (there are omegas available for both ATI and Nvidia cards).

[Wr8ith]

Omega's drivers based on 5.8's are out now, haven't tried them yet

[BERSERK3R]

Yep, I have added the Omega 5.8 to the list.

[Fatfool]

oh and heres the link for the official mobility catalyst drivers:

http://www.ati.com/online/mobilecatalyst/

its currently on 5.8 but the they'll change the drivers although they won't change the link (well at least thats whats happened when they switched from 5.6 to 5.7 and then to 5.8)

but it seems that no one archived the 5.6 and 5.7 mobility drivers. (tried googling but no leads)

It works on my mobility Radeon 9700. But ofcourse with all that sluggishness accociated with the normal 5.8 and 5.7.

according to certain websites, there are the cards the official drivers support although they don't say so on the website. Seems like ATI isn't too concerned that 'unsupported' cards are using their drivers. they've left this unsercured link ever since 5.6.

Supported cards:
"ATI MOBILITY FIRE GL T2/T2e"
"ATI MOBILITY FireGL V3100"
"ATI MOBILITY FireGL V3200"
"ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5000"
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9500"
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9550"
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series"
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9800"
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON X300"
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON X600"
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON X600 SE"
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700"
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON X800"
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON X800 XT"

one thing that i've noticed when using the 5.7 and 5.8 mobility drivers is that they take up more memory then the omega 5.6. I'm not sure if its caused by the control centre

still, the 5.8 gives a small increase with 3dmark2003 compared to omega 5.6

and ofcourse, before people who can't read the list of 'supported' cards start asking about whether their card is supported even though its listed, i've provided pictorial proof here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Fatfool/proofofcatalyst.jpg

learned it from certain forums where 'NPNT'(no picture, no talk) appears very often.

Btw some archiving on the official mobility drivers should really start....

[Fatfool]

ok!!! 5.9 is out both for mobility and normal catalyst.

gonna try the mobility to see if it fixed the problems with DoW

same link: http://www.ati.com/online/mobilecatalyst/

and now they officially support:

Graphics technologies supported
Mobility™ Radeon® X800
Mobility™ Radeon® X700
Mobility™ Radeon® X600
Mobility™ Radeon® X300
Mobility™ Radeon® 9800
Mobility™ Radeon® 9700
Mobility™ Radeon® 9600

finally... :disagree:

edit: nope the problem still isn't fixed. same as 5.8. turning the VPU recover helps somewhat. Whats mostly added in this driver was some theater support.

[BERSERK3R]

* Added Catalyst v5.9 drivers
* Added Omega drivers based on Cat. 5.9

[Phaezik]

anybody know if the new omega drivers based off of 5.9 fix this problem?

[Fatfool]

anybody know if the new omega drivers based off of 5.9 fix this problem?
nope. normal, mobility, omega all have the problem from 5.7-5.9......

[blork]

is there a possibility that relic can fix this (in a patch) or are we just stuck waiting on ati?

[TBS]

We dont know exactly what has caused this so its uncertain whether the fix needs to come from Relic's end or ATI's. As the old ATI drivers worked fine and ATI has a lot more money and manpower to work with I'd be inclined to say that they should fix it.

[maximus9]

This is an ATI problem and I encourage everyone encountering it to go to ATI site and report it.

Changing nothing else and rolling back from 5.9 or 5.8 to 5.6 removes all stuttering.

Those with a decent system (AMD64 3000+ 1Gig DDR 4200, 9800pro) should not be encountering stuttering. I just hope my BF2 performance doesnt drop with the 5.6. Here's hoping ATI recognizes and fixes this soon.

Now if I can just find players in the DOW lobby. I just got this game and there doesn't seem to be more than 60-100 players at any one time.

[Fatfool]

This is an ATI problem and I encourage everyone encountering it to go to ATI site and report it.

Changing nothing else and rolling back from 5.9 or 5.8 to 5.6 removes all stuttering.

Those with a decent system (AMD64 3000+ 1Gig DDR 4200, 9800pro) should not be encountering stuttering. I just hope my BF2 performance doesnt drop with the 5.6. Here's hoping ATI recognizes and fixes this soon.

Now if I can just find players in the DOW lobby. I just got this game and there doesn't seem to be more than 60-100 players at any one time.
I already did and got this reply back:

'Please try uninstalling the ATI software from add/remove programs and install any updated drivers there may be for you laptop from the manufacturer. They should have a mostly updated version of the drivers that may work better.'

Presumably because i'm using the mobility drivers on an unofficially supported laptop.

So i'd wonder what would they have to say if the card involved is an X800 series or so....

[blork]

well first hurdle of the automated system, done

"Based on our experience, performance related issues are usually due to hardware
limitation, improper software installation or system configuration settings.
Click the following link to review the full details for trouble shooting performance
related issues."

replyed saying that the problem was not my system, yada yada yada. we shall see if I ever get through to a real person.

[pegramon]

Same problem... Using Radeon 9800 pro and it lags after 5 minutes like nothing else..
Played many games but this one really hates me i copyd my system info hoping u might help :P


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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/2/2005, 20:38:26
Machine name: DEDU-C37V4VW0CX
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: Swedish (Regional Setting: Swedish)
System Manufacturer: MEDIONPC
System Model: MS-7012
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 214MB used, 2247MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9800 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9800 PRO AGP (0x4E48)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_85001787&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play-bildskärm
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6571 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/31/2005 04:42:53, 238592 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: Saknas
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 8/31/2005 04:42:35, 1333760 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D08-11CF-9C6D-0AA5A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4E48
SubSys ID: 0x85001787
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [B000]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_20021102&REV_04
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0444 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 10/18/2004 15:21:24, 371376 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 62
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 62
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

Description: C-Media Wave Device
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D5&SUBSYS_01201462&REV_02
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: cmuda.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0049 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Debug
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 5/12/2005 14:21:08, 1332544 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: C-Media Inc.
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 100000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): Yes
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [B000]
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0444 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 10/18/2004 15:21:24, 371376 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

Description: C-Media Wave Device
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: cmuda.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0049 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Debug
Date and Size: 5/12/2005 14:21:08, 1332544 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xCC0

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: Enabled
Ports: SB Audigy 2 ZS DirectMusic Synthesizer [B000], Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [B000], Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
C-Media Wave Device, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulerat], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth A [B000] [Emulerat], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
MPU-401 [Emulerat], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
SB Audigy 2 ZS Sw Synth [B000] [Emulerat], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth B [B000] [Emulerat], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [B000] [Emulerat], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulerat], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
MPU-401 [Emulerat], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [B000] [Emulerat], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mus
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Tangentbord
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB-compliant keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x0518, 0x0002
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB-compliant keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x0518, 0x0002
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB-rotnav (hub)
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x24D4
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 4/24/2003 14:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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+ Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
| Location: PCI-buss 0, enhet 30, funktion 0
| Matching Device ID: pci\ven_8086&dev_244e
| Service: pci
| Driver: pci.sys, 8/4/2004 10:05:14, 68096 bytes
|
+-+ Creative Game Port
| | Location: PCI-buss 2, enhet 3, funktion 1
| | Matching Device ID: pci\ven_1102&dev_7003&subsys_00401102
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 8/4/2004 08:08:22, 10624 bytes

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PS/2 Devices
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+ HID-tangentbordsenhet
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x0518, 0x0002
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 8/4/2004 10:18:46, 14848 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 10:18:44, 24832 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 10:35:05, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 10:18:44, 24832 bytes
|
+ HID-kompatibel mus
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1267, 0x0210
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 10:06:36, 23296 bytes
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 4/24/2003 14:00:00, 12160 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 10:35:05, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 10:06:36, 23296 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Passed, Half Duplex: Passed, Mic: Passed
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
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DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Anslutning till lokalt nätverk - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
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Voxware VR12 1,4 kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6,4 kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3,2 kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32,8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8,6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 24.4 GB
Total Space: 76.3 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3160021A

Drive: D:
Free Space: 71.4 GB
Total Space: 72.8 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3160021A

Drive: E:
Free Space: 2.0 GB
Total Space: 3.5 GB
File System: FAT32
Model: ST3160021A

Drive: J:
Model: PIONEER DVD RW DVR-106D
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 07:59:52, 49536 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Intel(R) 82865G/PE/P/GV/82848P Processor to AGP Controller - 2571
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2571&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&08
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\AGP440.SYS, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:07:41, 42368 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82865G/PE/P/GV/82848P Processor to I/O Controller - 2570
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2570&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24DE
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DE&SUBSYS_01201462&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&EB
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:37, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 10:34:00, 75264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 24DD
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DD&SUBSYS_74701462&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&EF
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:37, 26624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 10:34:00, 75264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 57600 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 10:33:37, 7168 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DB&SUBSYS_01201462&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&F9
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (Swedish), 9/6/2001 20:07:06, 3328 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 07:59:41, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:59:42, 95360 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D7
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D7&SUBSYS_01201462&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&EA
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:37, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 10:34:00, 75264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 57600 bytes

Name: C-Media AC97 Audio Device
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D5&SUBSYS_01201462&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&FD
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D4
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D4&SUBSYS_01201462&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E9
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:37, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 10:34:00, 75264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801EB SMBus Controller - 24D3
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D3&SUBSYS_01201462&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&FB
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D2
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D2&SUBSYS_01201462&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:37, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 10:34:00, 75264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:42, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801EB LPC Interface Controller - 24D0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D0&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&F8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (Swedish), 9/6/2001 19:48:06, 36096 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_C2\3&13C0B0C5&0&F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 10:05:14, 68096 bytes

Name: VIA VT6105 Rhine III Fast Ethernet Adapter
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3106&SUBSYS_012C1462&REV_8B\4&1F7DBC9F&0&48F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\fetnd5b.sys, 3.13.0000.0348 (English), 10/29/2002 22:20:30, 40960 bytes

Name: VIA OHCI-kompatibel IEEE 1394-värdstyrenhet
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_716D1462&REV_46\4&1F7DBC9F&0&50F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:10:08, 61056 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:10:06, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:58:29, 61824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:58:29, 60800 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 23:46:40, 6400 bytes

Name: Creative Game Port
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_7003&SUBSYS_00401102&REV_04\4&1F7DBC9F&0&19F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\gameenum.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:08:22, 10624 bytes

Name: OHCI-kompatibel IEEE 1394-värdstyrenhet
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_4001&SUBSYS_00101102&REV_04\4&1F7DBC9F&0&1AF0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:10:08, 61056 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:10:06, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:58:29, 61824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:58:29, 60800 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 23:46:40, 6400 bytes

Name: Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS (WDM)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_20021102&REV_04\4&1F7DBC9F&0&18F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 10:33:40, 4096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksproxy.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 10:34:52, 130048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 08:15:22, 140928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:07:58, 60288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:15:50, 145792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/4/2004 08:08:02, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 10:34:55, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ctac32k.sys, 5.12.0001.0444 (English), 2/23/2004 15:16:12, 645360 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ctaud2k.sys, 5.12.0001.0444 (English), 10/18/2004 15:21:24, 371376 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ctoss2k.sys, 5.12.0001.0441 (English), 10/8/2003 10:06:50, 178672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ctprxy2k.sys, 5.12.0001.0441 (English), 10/8/2003 10:08:12, 6096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ctsfm2k.sys, 5.12.0001.0441 (English), 10/8/2003 10:09:10, 130288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\emupia2k.sys, 5.12.0001.0442 (English), 10/13/2003 17:42:12, 145488 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ha10kx2k.sys, 5.12.0001.0446 (English), 2/24/2004 12:17:10, 904784 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\haP16v2k.sys, 5.12.0001.0442 (English), 10/21/2003 17:23:44, 148432 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\pfmodnt.sys, 3.00.0000.0003 (English), 3/5/2003 15:07:46, 15840 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctdlang.dat, 10/21/2003 17:54:50, 217272 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctstatic.dat, 10/21/2003 17:47:40, 298971 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctdaught.dat, 10/21/2003 17:47:34, 53932 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\a3d.dll, 4.12.0001.2008 (English), 11/23/2001 12:08:20, 712704 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\commonfx.dll, 5.12.0001.0440 (English), 10/6/2003 14:44:28, 114688 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctaudfx.dll, 5.12.0001.0442 (English), 2/18/2004 15:38:34, 585728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctsblfx.dll, 5.12.0001.0440 (English), 10/6/2003 14:46:14, 606208 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\sfman32.dll, 5.12.0001.0130 (English), 8/17/2001 14:35:46, 36864 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctbas2w.dat, 10/21/2003 17:54:48, 140643 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctsbas2w.dat, 10/21/2003 17:54:42, 264466 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SBAudigy.ico, 8/17/2001 12:42:28, 7406 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Audigy.bmp, 11/13/2001 09:48:20, 1912 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctcoinst.dll, 3.00.0000.0005 (English), 2/23/2004 10:10:02, 73728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctdvinst.dll, 1.82.0000.0001 (English), 6/27/2003 17:51:42, 122880 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ctdvda2k.sys, 5.13.0001.0413 (English), 10/14/2003 11:17:56, 332800 bytes

Name: RADEON 9800 SERIES - Secondary
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E68&SUBSYS_85011787&REV_00\4&299CCBFA&0&0108
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6571 (Swedish), 8/31/2005 04:42:35, 1333760 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0005 (English), 8/31/2005 03:47:55, 40960 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativvpxx.vp, 8/31/2005 08:01:46, 23936 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativckxx.vp, 6/8/2005 21:45:54, 58560 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.vp, 8/30/2005 16:12:00, 929 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.cpa, 8/30/2005 16:12:00, 524850 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6571 (English), 8/31/2005 04:42:53, 238592 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2cqag.dll, 6.14.0010.0296 (English), 8/31/2005 03:42:50, 233472 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 6.14.0010.2495 (English), 8/31/2005 04:37:26, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0347 (English), 8/31/2005 04:28:36, 2429824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dll, 6.14.0001.0069 (English), 8/31/2005 04:23:03, 600672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 8/26/2005 16:54:13, 104373 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0007 (English), 8/31/2005 04:35:45, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4200 (English), 8/31/2005 03:47:45, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/9/2001 17:01:04, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4119 (English), 8/31/2005 04:36:08, 376832 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4119 (English), 8/31/2005 04:37:12, 46080 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2494 (English), 8/31/2005 04:37:43, 106496 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0013 (English), 8/31/2005 04:37:33, 73728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2497 (English), 8/31/2005 04:37:21, 39936 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atikvmag.dll, 6.14.0010.0027 (Swedish), 8/31/2005 04:10:36, 147456 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDEMGR.dll, 1.02.2068.42405 (Swedish), 8/31/2005 06:33:31, 258048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atifglpf.xml, 7/2/2005 03:54:30, 5496 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.5337 (English), 8/31/2005 04:57:00, 4718592 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglx1.dll, 6.14.0010.1014 (English), 8/31/2005 05:57:49, 6684672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.4004 (English), 8/31/2005 07:08:36, 307200 bytes

Name: RADEON 9800 SERIES
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_85001787&REV_00\4&299CCBFA&0&0008
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6571 (Swedish), 8/31/2005 04:42:35, 1333760 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0005 (English), 8/31/2005 03:47:55, 40960 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativvpxx.vp, 8/31/2005 08:01:46, 23936 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativckxx.vp, 6/8/2005 21:45:54, 58560 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.vp, 8/30/2005 16:12:00, 929 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.cpa, 8/30/2005 16:12:00, 524850 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6571 (English), 8/31/2005 04:42:53, 238592 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2cqag.dll, 6.14.0010.0296 (English), 8/31/2005 03:42:50, 233472 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 6.14.0010.2495 (English), 8/31/2005 04:37:26, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0347 (English), 8/31/2005 04:28:36, 2429824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dll, 6.14.0001.0069 (English), 8/31/2005 04:23:03, 600672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 8/26/2005 16:54:13, 104373 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0007 (English), 8/31/2005 04:35:45, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4200 (English), 8/31/2005 03:47:45, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/9/2001 17:01:04, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4119 (English), 8/31/2005 04:36:08, 376832 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4119 (English), 8/31/2005 04:37:12, 46080 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2494 (English), 8/31/2005 04:37:43, 106496 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0013 (English), 8/31/2005 04:37:33, 73728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2497 (English), 8/31/2005 04:37:21, 39936 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atikvmag.dll, 6.14.0010.0027 (Swedish), 8/31/2005 04:10:36, 147456 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDEMGR.dll, 1.02.2068.42405 (Swedish), 8/31/2005 06:33:31, 258048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atifglpf.xml, 7/2/2005 03:54:30, 5496 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.5337 (English), 8/31/2005 04:57:00, 4718592 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglx1.dll, 6.14.0010.1014 (English), 8/31/2005 05:57:49, 6684672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.4004 (English), 8/31/2005 07:08:36, 307200 bytes

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DirectX Components
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ddraw.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:31 266240 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:31 27136 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 10496 bytes
d3d8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:31 1179648 bytes
d3d8thk.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:31 8192 bytes
d3d9.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:31 1689088 bytes
d3dim.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 436224 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:31 825344 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 590336 bytes
d3drm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 350208 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 47616 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 34816 bytes
dplay.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 Swedish Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 33040 bytes
dplayx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 229888 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 23552 bytes
dpwsock.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 42768 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 57344 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:16 30208 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:16 17920 bytes
dpnet.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 375296 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:30:33 3584 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:30:32 3584 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 212480 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:16 83456 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 116736 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 21504 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 35328 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 60928 bytes
dpserial.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 Swedish Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 53520 bytes
dinput.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 162304 bytes
dinput8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 184832 bytes
dimap.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 44032 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 Swedish Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 395264 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:52 68608 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 Swedish Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 76800 bytes
pid.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:51 35328 bytes
gameenum.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 08:08:22 10624 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 367616 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 1294336 bytes
dswave.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 19456 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 181760 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 71680 bytes
dmusic.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 104448 bytes
dmband.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 28672 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 61440 bytes
dmime.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 181248 bytes
dmloader.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 35840 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 105984 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 103424 bytes
dmscript.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 82432 bytes
system.dll: 1.01.4322.0573 English Final Retail 7/18/2005 14:25:20 1216512 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 9/26/2005 20:34:31 473600 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.06.0168.0000 English Final Retail 9/26/2005 20:34:32 567296 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 9/26/2005 20:34:32 145920 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectInput.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 9/26/2005 20:34:32 159232 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectPlay.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 9/26/2005 20:34:32 364544 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectSound.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 9/26/2005 20:34:32 178176 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.AudioVideoPlayback.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 9/26/2005 20:34:31 53248 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Diagnostics.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 9/26/2005 20:34:31 12800 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 9/26/2005 20:34:31 223232 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 619008 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 1227264 bytes
dxdiagn.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 2113536 bytes
mfc40.dll: 4.01.0000.6140 English Final Retail 4/24/2003 14:00:00 924432 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.02.4131.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:42 1028096 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.01.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:04 24576 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:28 70656 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:31 59904 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.0009.1125 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:33 498205 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:42 35328 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:52 148992 bytes
msdmo.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:44 14336 bytes
encapi.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:34 20480 bytes
qasf.dll: 10.00.0000.3802 English Final Retail 1/28/2005 13:44:28 221184 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:52 192512 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:52 279040 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:52 385536 bytes
qedit.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:52 562688 bytes
qedwipes.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:31:57 733696 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:52 1289728 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.0000.3928 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:58 246302 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.0005.0053 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:52 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.0016.0003 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:52 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 4.30.0062.0002 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:40 120320 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 4.30.0064.0001 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:40 338432 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.2562.0015.0055 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:40 755200 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.0063.0048 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:40 200192 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.0064.0048 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:40 183808 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.10.0002.0051 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:52 154624 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:48 204288 bytes
ks.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 08:15:22 140928 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:52 130048 bytes
ksuser.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:40 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 08:08:02 48640 bytes
mspclock.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 07:58:38 5376 bytes
mspqm.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 07:58:40 4992 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 07:58:41 7552 bytes
swenum.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 07:58:41 4352 bytes
mpeg2data.ax: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:52 118272 bytes
msvidctl.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:46 1431040 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:53 30720 bytes
msyuv.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:33:48 17408 bytes
wstdecod.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 Swedish Final Retail 8/4/2004 10:34:04 51200 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Creative LiveRecording Filter,0x00400000,0,1,LiveRec.ax,2.00.0001.0000
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Creative Wave Writer,0x00200000,1,0,WavWrite.ax,2.00.0001.0000
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Nero Digital Audio Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,NeAudio.ax,1.00.0003.0097
Creative MLP Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,MlpSrc.ax,1.01.0001.0000
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
Creative NVF Filter,0x00400000,0,1,NvfSrc.ax,1.00.0006.0000
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,10.00.0000.3802
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
BPM Metadata,0x001fffff,1,1,MetaBPM.ax,1.00.0003.0000
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Windows Media Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,msadds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
CT Null Render Filter,0x00200000,1,0,NullRndr.ax,1.00.0001.0000
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
CT Time-Scaling filter,0x00100000,1,1,TimeScal.ax,2.02.0000.0000
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
SVM Metadata,0x001fffff,1,1,MetaSVM.ax,1.00.0006.0000
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,msscds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,l3codecx.ax,1.05.0000.0050
Nero Audio Stream Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,1.00.0001.0008
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,acelpdec.ax,1.04.0000.0000
WMS Filter,0x00400000,0,1,CTWMSFLT.DLL,1.12.0001.0000
Nero QuickTime(tm) Video Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,NeQTVDec.ax,1.00.0000.0003
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
File Source (Netshow URL),0x00400000,0,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmvds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmv8ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4000
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
PCM to EXT,0x00200000,0,0,Pcm2Ext.ax,5.00.0000.0000
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Nero ES Video Reader,0x00600000,0,1,NDParser.ax,2.00.0002.0009
CT Karaoke filter,0x00100000,1,1,Karaoke.ax,2.00.0000.0001
Creative MP3 Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,Mp3Src.ax,2.00.0003.0000
Windows Media Multiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASX file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASX v.2 file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
NSC file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Windows Media source filter,0x00600000,0,2,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WST Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,wstdecod.dll,5.03.2600.2180
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Nero Audio Sample Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,1.00.0001.0008
Creative AC3 Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,AC3Src.ax,1.01.0000.0000
CT SmartVolumeManagement filter,0x00100000,1,1,DSCompr.ax,1.00.0000.0001
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,5.03.2600.2180
Creative MP3 Writer,0x00200000,1,0,MP3Write.ax,1.02.0001.0000
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,mpg4ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
Nero Video Stream Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,1.00.0001.0008
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,2,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Overlay Mixer2,0x00400000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
.RAM file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
WMT DirectX Transform Wrapper,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
G.711 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,g711codc.ax,5.01.2600.0000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Creative MP3 Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,CTMP3SFT.DLL,1.00.0010.0000
Windows Media Update Filter,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
Noise Reduction,0x00100000,1,1,NoisRedu.ax,3.00.0000.0002
ASF DIB Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF ACM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF ICM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF URL Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF JPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF DJPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF embedded stuff Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WIA Stream Snapshot Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wiasf.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Nero Video Decoder,0x00600000,2,2,NeVideo.ax,2.00.0001.0004
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Creative WMA Writer,0x00200000,1,0,WMAWrite.ax,2.01.0001.0000
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,mpeg2data.ax,
WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Creative WMA Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,WmaSrc.ax,2.00.0004.0000
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
QuickTime Movie Parser,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Lyric Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
XML Playlist,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
Nero File Source,0x00200000,0,1,NeFileSrc.ax,1.00.0000.0006
Nero QuickTime(tm) Audio Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,NeQTADec.ax,1.00.0000.0003
NVF Filter,0x00400000,0,1,CTNVFFLT.DLL,1.00.0000.0000
Nero DVD Decoder,0x00600000,2,2,NeVideo.ax,2.00.0001.0004
Nero Digital Parser,0x00600000,0,3,NDParser.ax,2.00.0002.0009
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Creative CDDA Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,CDDA.ax,2.01.0001.0000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Nero Video Sample Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,1.00.0001.0008
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Pad VU Data Grabber,0x00600000,1,0,wmmfilt.dll,1.01.2427.0001
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
QT Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
ShotBoundaryDet,0x00200000,1,1,wmmfilt.dll,1.01.2427.0001
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Datatransformationer för WDM-direktuppspelning:
Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller,0x00200000,2,2,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180

Video Compressors:
WMVideo Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
Lernout & Hauspie CELP 4.8kbit/s,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Lernout & Hauspie SBC 8kbit/s,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Lernout & Hauspie SBC 12kbit/s,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Lernout & Hauspie SBC 16kbit/s,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
ACELP.net,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM),0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Windows Media Audio V1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Windows Media Audio V2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft G.723.1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Audio Capture Sources:
SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [B000],0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
C-Media Wave Device,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
MPU-401,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [B000],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Sw Synth [B000],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth A [B000],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth B [B000],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Inspelningsenheter för WDM-direktuppspelning:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [B000],0x00200000,2,2,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [B000],0x00200000,3,2,,5.03.2600.2180
C-Media Wave Device,0x00200000,3,3,,5.03.2600.2180

Renderingsenheter för WDM-direktuppspelning:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
SB Audigy 2 ZS DirectMusic Synthesizer [B000],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Sw Synth [B000],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth A [B000],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth B [B000],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [B000],0x00200000,2,2,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [B000],0x00200000,3,2,,5.03.2600.2180
C-Media Wave Device,0x00200000,3,3,,5.03.2600.2180

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,mpeg2data.ax,

Mixerenheter för WDM-uppspelning:
Microsoft Kernel-wave-ljudMixer,0x00000000,0,0,,

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.2180
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Audio Renderers:
SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [B000],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
C-Media Wave Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
DirectSound: C-Media Wave Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180
DirectSound: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [B000],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Systemenheter för WDM-direktuppspelning:
MPU-401,0x00200000,3,2,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS DirectMusic Synthesizer [B000],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Sw Synth [B000],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth A [B000],0x00200000,11,2,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth B [B000],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [B000],0x00200000,2,2,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [B000],0x00200000,13,2,,5.03.2600.2180
C-Media Wave Device,0x00200000,9,2,,5.03.2600.2180

I know some words might be swedish like "saknas"(missing) "nej"(no) "ja"(yes)
If u find anything else u can understand let me know im ghonna test the new omega driver in hope of making it all work hehe wish me luck.

the new omega driver only made it worse.. AGH last time im buying a freaking ATI card thats for shure :P.. Anyone else making progress?

[Fatfool]

well first hurdle of the automated system, done

"Based on our experience, performance related issues are usually due to hardware
limitation, improper software installation or system configuration settings.
Click the following link to review the full details for trouble shooting performance
related issues."

replyed saying that the problem was not my system, yada yada yada. we shall see if I ever get through to a real person.
be prepared to wait 2 days for every reply ;)

[blork]

oh belive me I know, but I will continue to post in hopes of a resolution some year

[BERSERK3R]

This is an ATI problem and I encourage everyone encountering it to go to ATI site and report it.

Changing nothing else and rolling back from 5.9 or 5.8 to 5.6 removes all stuttering.

Those with a decent system (AMD64 3000+ 1Gig DDR 4200, 9800pro) should not be encountering stuttering. I just hope my BF2 performance doesnt drop with the 5.6. Here's hoping ATI recognizes and fixes this soon.

Now if I can just find players in the DOW lobby. I just got this game and there doesn't seem to be more than 60-100 players at any one time.
It looks like everybody has a ATI 9800 pro.
I havn't seen others saying they have a older or newer ATI card.
Well I do have a newer card (X800XT PE), and It looks like the 5.6 version fixes the problem for the 9800 owners, but not for me (and possibly other X800XT owners).
It and looks like all my games crashes with 5.6, and others seem to have that problem also.

And I'm not sure if it is only ATI's problem, It seemed that previous versions of DOW ran better, but I'm not sure, so if that's true relic has to fix some things too.

[blork]

ati replied with a request for me to "Create a Problem Report".
this has been sent to them.whoooo
oh yes I am running an ati 9800 pro, like the others having problems. but at least it looks like I might be dealing with a real person now instead of a purely automated system.

I doubt it though.

I gave them a link to this thread to show its not just me going crazy.

I guess the neverending story continues.

[Fatfool]

ati replied with a request for me to "Create a Problem Report".
this has been sent to them.whoooo
oh yes I am running an ati 9800 pro, like the others having problems. but at least it looks like I might be dealing with a real person now instead of a purely automated system.

I doubt it though.

I gave them a link to this thread to show its not just me going crazy.

I guess the neverending story continues.
yeah yeah. now its a real person.

i'd expect them to direct you to the 5.6 catalyst after this.....

something like:

'Please try uninstalling the ATI software from add/remove programs and install the 5.6 catalyst drivers. . They should have not cause a problem.'

or something like that. as if we didn't already know -_-"

anyway, there goes another 2 days .

[Evan_gelion]

Gotta say I wish I checked this site before upgrading my video card. Just picked up an x800... older drivers, far as I understand, aren't going to work. DoW looks really pretty now--except for the fact it stutters like there's no tomorrow.

Meh. Here's hoping for a fix soon.

[Fatfool]

Gotta say I wish I checked this site before upgrading my video card. Just picked up an x800... older drivers, far as I understand, aren't going to work. DoW looks really pretty now--except for the fact it stutters like there's no tomorrow.

Meh. Here's hoping for a fix soon.
well, the 5.6 drives will work i guess...... your purchase isn't that 'wasted'.......

[blork]

unfortunatly I can't roll back as WoW hates older drivers with a burning passion.I've specified that in every message I have sent them :) good thing I am ordering a laptop today, guess I will go nvidia for that.

[Fatfool]

unfortunatly I can't roll back as WoW hates older drivers with a burning passion.I've specified that in every message I have sent them :) good thing I am ordering a laptop today, guess I will go nvidia for that.
haha. there goes another sale from ATI.
btw Nvidia wasn't joking when they talked about the performance of the
Go 7800GTX.........

[blork]

thats what I think I want :)

[BERSERK3R]

well, the 5.6 drives will work i guess...... your purchase isn't that 'wasted'.......
Probably not.
I have a X800XT also and I have tried 5.6 but some games just crash, and there are others who have the same videocard and have the same problem ;)

[Fatfool]

Probably not.
I have a X800XT also and I have tried 5.6 but some games just crash, and there are others who have the same videocard and have the same problem ;)
OH! and no one harassed ATI about it? the problems seems worse compared to other ATI cards......


thats what I think I want :)
big hole on the pocket...... but DoW and WoW will play effortlessly i guess.....

[blork]

lovely thing about working eh.
and at least it means I don't need to have ati telling me that I should try 5.4 instead of 5.9 (it was still sluggish, and made the whole thing unstable) lets see what their next great peice of advice is.

[ArTizan]

Also getting bad stuttering here since 5.8/.9

Had to roll back to 5.4 as no other worked with bf2 for me :(

Currently back on damn 5.9 and can't be bothered to change. If this isn't cleaned up by 5.10, and nvidia card will be falling through my letterbox no question.

[Fatfool]

lovely thing about working eh.
and at least it means I don't need to have ati telling me that I should try 5.4 instead of 5.9 (it was still sluggish, and made the whole thing unstable) lets see what their next great peice of advice is.
o.O they didn't tell you to try 5.6?

what the heck are they doing if they can't even recommend the latest patch which worked.

[StarDweller]

I have a Radeon 9600 256mb, and I've tried almost all the drivers from 5.1 to 5.9. They all have stuttering on DoW.

It might be my system:
P4 1.6ghz (yeah, old)
1gb Rambus RAM

If anyone has some suggestions it would be awesome. Thanks!

[Evan_gelion]

It's not your system.

My specs may be a little bit above yours but I had garbage as a video card recently. The framterate was junk but the game still RAN fine. I get a new video card, and nothing works.

It's definitly DoW not liking it, though why I can't say. This is the ONLY game I've had a problem with.

[Krotz]

Disappointingly, the new 5.10 catalyst drivers show no improvement....

[Fatfool]

Disappointingly, the new 5.10 catalyst drivers show no improvement....
yep. just tried it. still the same .....

[BERSERK3R]

yep. just tried it. still the same .....
Hm to bad, this takes too long! :mean: .

But I have added the Catalyst 5.10 drivers anyway.

[TBS]

Hmm, ATI have done something to prevent you linking directly to the driver files...thats most...awkward of them, I can't seem to find the 5.6 drivers on their website so I dont see how they expect us to download older drivers. Does anyone know of a website which archives older driver files?

[Druidika]

Catalyst 5.1 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=1442)
Catalyst 5.2 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=10138)
Catalyst 5.3 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=10150)
Catalyst 5.4 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=18935)
Catalyst 5.5 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19460)
Catalyst 5.6 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19549)
Catalyst 5.7 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19850)
Catalyst 5.8 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=20166)
Catalyst 5.9 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=20580)
Catalyst 5.10 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=20767)

Drivers older than 5.7 are not accessable for unregistered users.

EDIT: Seems like there is a problem with linking to https:// sites... visiting http://support.ati.com BEFORE accessing the direct links above seems to fix it.

[TBS]

ok, thanks Druidika

[Fatfool]

Catalyst 5.1 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=1442)
Catalyst 5.2 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=10138)
Catalyst 5.3 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=10150)
Catalyst 5.4 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=18935)
Catalyst 5.5 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19460)
Catalyst 5.6 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19549)
Catalyst 5.7 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19850)
Catalyst 5.8 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=20166)
Catalyst 5.9 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=20580)
Catalyst 5.10 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=20767)

Drivers older than 5.7 are not accessable for unregistered users.

EDIT: Seems like there is a problem with linking to https:// sites... visiting http://support.ati.com BEFORE accessing the direct links above seems to fix it.
but they don't have archives of the mobility drivers eh.

seems like no website ever archived the mobility 5.6 and 5.7 drivers. They only started archiving from 5.8 onwards(very hard to find but its possible if you search hard for 5.8)

the problem for the mobility ones is that they constantly replace their only download link with the newest version....

[ArTizan]

5.10 and no change you say?

FFS ATI! I'll be sticking with the 5.6's forever then at this rate...

[Arex]

I have ATI Radeon 9250, and i want buy DoW gold, but if i dont go to can play good...what should i to do for play with DoW gold usibng my graphics card? should i use omega driver (catalyst 5.6)?? Since catalyst 5.6 drivers are broken, u need register, and bla bla bla, stupid ATI support, my next graphic card will be nvidia for sure.

[BERSERK3R]

Catalyst 5.1 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=1442)
Catalyst 5.2 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=10138)
Catalyst 5.3 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=10150)
Catalyst 5.4 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=18935)
Catalyst 5.5 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19460)
Catalyst 5.6 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19549)
Catalyst 5.7 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19850)
Catalyst 5.8 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=20166)
Catalyst 5.9 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=20580)
Catalyst 5.10 (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=20767)

Drivers older than 5.7 are not accessable for unregistered users.

EDIT: Seems like there is a problem with linking to https:// sites... visiting http://support.ati.com BEFORE accessing the direct links above seems to fix it.
Man that's crap, well I'll change the links asap ;) .

Edit: I have changed the links to the ones Druidika posted

[Fatfool]

I have ATI Radeon 9250, and i want buy DoW gold, but if i dont go to can play good...what should i to do for play with DoW gold usibng my graphics card? should i use omega driver (catalyst 5.6)?? Since catalyst 5.6 drivers are broken, u need register, and bla bla bla, stupid ATI support, my next graphic card will be nvidia for sure.
err no. you could just search around websites which have archived the drivers. Google or Yahoo is your friend ;)


ArTizan']5.10 and no change you say?

FFS ATI! I'll be sticking with the 5.6's forever then at this rate...
you're right bout that.

the 'known issues' portion doesn't state anything bout DoW:


Known Issues for Catalyst™ Software Suite 5.10
The following section provides a summary of open issues in the latest version of Catalyst™. These include

City of Heroes: Playing the game under Windows XP Media Center Edition may results in display corruption being notice when attempting to task-switch between the game and the desktop. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19792
Beyond Good or Evil: Flickering artifacts are noticed on the game characters after approximately 15 minutes of game play. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20795
Dark Age of Camelot: The game exits to the desktop immediately after launching, or may play for up to 15 minutes followed by a VPU Recover error message being displayed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20794
Medal of Honor Allied Assaults: The game does not launch with Spearhead or Breakthrough expansion packs installed under Windows XP. Further details can be found in topic number. 737-20793
Neverwinter Nights: Installing the 1.66 patch along with Shadows of Undertide and Hordes add-ons result in features of the game being missing when using an ATI Radeon® 9600 SE. Further details can be found in topic number. 737-20792
Catalyst™ Control Center: The SmartShader™ effect is not removed from the 3D preview when attempting to restore the default values in the Catalyst™ Control Center. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20846
The Apply button in the Custom settings of the Advanced mode found under the Catalyst™ Control Center Video standard settings is grayed out when playing a media file. Further details can be found in topic number 737-497
Connecting an HDTV to an ATI Radeon® X700 series may result in the HDTV being detected as a CRT or TV under the Windows XP operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20783
Attempting to install the integrated WDM driver under Windows XP may result in an error message being displayed indicating that the hardware is not installed because the install Wizard cannot find the necessary software. Further details can be found in topic number. 737-20784
Connecting a CRT and a TV may result in the TV not being automatically detected under Windows XP MCE when using an ATI Radeon® 9550/9600/9650 series. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20785
Using the Custom option when installing the software driver results in the Theater 550 software driver not being present. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20786
Catalyst™ Control Center: The menu items in the Deinterlacing aspect page of the Catalyst™ Control Center maybe missing when selecting Simplified Chinese as the supported language. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20787
Catalyst™ Control Center: Enabling East Asian language support may result in the Apply, Discard and Defaults buttons being invisible. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20788
Vertical striping corruption maybe noticed when running the Windows XP MCE TV when using an ATI All-in-Wonder™ X600 series. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20789
Connecting a DVD player to the ATI All-in-Wonder™ X600 may result in the left and right audio channels being reversed when using the Windows XP MCE operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20790
Enabling CrossFire support on a system using three display device may result in corruption remaining on the secondary or third display devices when disabling the displays. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20791

oh ya. and for the lazy people out there:

http://www.driverheavendownloads.net/ati.htm

this link pretty much works...... its lacking the 5.8 mobility drivers though the 5.9 onwards are there.

[BERSERK3R]

err no. you could just search around websites which have archived the drivers. Google or Yahoo is your friend ;)


you're right bout that.

the 'known issues' portion doesn't state anything bout DoW:



oh ya. and for the lazy people out there:

http://www.driverheavendownloads.net/ati.htm

this link pretty much works...... its lacking the 5.8 mobility drivers though the 5.9 onwards are there.
Oh yes thank you for the drivehreaven link, I forgot about that site, Ill change the links again to these ;)

[nuttyjawa]

has anyone from Relic or anywhere tried contacting ATi to make them aware
they cant fix it if they dont know
ive had a look on the site and could only find a phone number :/ for people from the UK
*me shakes fist at american super corps*

[Youlian]

Anybody know if the new version 5.10 fix this problem ? - I will give it a try, but there is little hope. :(

[step2ice]

has anyone from Relic or anywhere tried contacting ATi to make them aware they cant fix it if they dont know ive had a look on the site and could only find a phone number :/ for people from the UK *me shakes fist at american super corps*


Go here --> http://www.ati.com/ ---> click customer care and submit a ticket to the CCC Team.


The more tickets the higher the chance we get heared and either ATI or Relic responding to it.

[ZXeno]

has anyone from Relic or anywhere tried contacting ATi to make them aware they cant fix it if they dont know ive had a look on the site and could only find a phone number :/ for people from the UK *me shakes fist at american super corps*

shake your fist at us american's all you want... both ATI and Relic are CANADIAN :-p

In either case, it seems that the 5.10 drivers do not fix the issue either. The only reason I haven't actually sat down and gotten good at this game (or really played at all for that matter) is because of this driver issue. I'm not losing performance in all of my other games because of just one game, no matter how much I like it. For me, I've sent my tickets, I made my phone calls (none of which were helpful) and loged my complaints, im ready for some action. I'll just keep playing other games and watching for a fix for this one :\

[Heavens Eagle]

One thing I found back when is that the Catalyst control center caused all kinds of greif. I HATED IT! I have just loaded the drivers ever since.

Currently I am still running the 4.10 drivers. They work and "if it ain't broke don't fix it" tends to apply to me.

As to drivers, while there seem to be problems with ATI drivers at least you can get newer ones. I have a damn NVidia Go 440 64meg on my Toshiba and there were never any newer "official" drivers released. NVidia says to go t the manufacturer and the newest Toshiba drivers are almost 4 years old. Luckily the hacked NV drivers I have been forced to use work very well and I can run DoW on it.

I am thinking of trying to install just the 5.6 DRIVERS on my system. Won't ever use the damn control center again.

[iniochos]

Hi there,
I am new to this forum and i do have a serious problem with the WA demo.
First of all i have to say that i dont have the DOW, or at least not mine.
I had borrowed it a couple weeks ago, from a friend of mine to see if it worth buying it. The game run smoothly. My video card that time was: Asus - N6600 128 mb PCI (nvidia).
Last week, i downloaded the WA demo. In meanwhile i have changed the video card with: X850 256 Mb PCI (ATI) Driver ver. 6.14.10.6505.
Here are the results of the card on the demo
And one more thing to add.
Apart the "obvious" problems i decided to play choosing skirmish and tutorial.
The result was a white Wireframe landscape :gonemad:

Ooops what went wrong?
I have uploaded the in game screens.
I wll try again

[PCVR1011]

I'll toss a potentially dumb idea out there.

I used to play Forgotten Battles, a flight simulator that was built around OpenGL. As most of you are aware, ATI's support of OGL sucks. We were forced to live through several sets of drivers where we couldn't play the game with the highest settings because the OpenGL driver was trashed, and like now, ATI refused to fix it right away.

Because the OpenGL driver from an earlier set of drivers worked well, someone had the idea to extract that particular driver file and put it in the IL2 directory. That way, you could keep the newest driverset installed, but still have the earlier OpenGL driver that actually worked with IL2.

Is there any chance we could do this with DoW? Taking out the 5.6 driver file that works, tossing it somewhere in the DoW directory where the game'll read it?

[BERSERK3R]

I'll toss a potentially dumb idea out there.

I used to play Forgotten Battles, a flight simulator that was built around OpenGL. As most of you are aware, ATI's support of OGL sucks. We were forced to live through several sets of drivers where we couldn't play the game with the highest settings because the OpenGL driver was trashed, and like now, ATI refused to fix it right away.

Because the OpenGL driver from an earlier set of drivers worked well, someone had the idea to extract that particular driver file and put it in the IL2 directory. That way, you could keep the newest driverset installed, but still have the earlier OpenGL driver that actually worked with IL2.

Is there any chance we could do this with DoW? Taking out the 5.6 driver file that works, tossing it somewhere in the DoW directory where the game'll read it?

Could be a solution for some, you might consider contact (omegadrivers@gmail.com) the person who makes the omega drivers of the catalyst drivers, maybe he can do something about it.

[TBS]

iniochos: that error is FAR more serious than the problems experienced by people because of the newer drivers. Create a new thread with a warnings.log and dxdiag.

I suspect that your new card may be either overheating or not receiving enough power (or simply be faulty).

[iniochos]

TBS: The problem comes only with the specific demo.
With this card i can play:

X2 - the threat,
Freelancer,
Comm & Conq. ZERO HOUR,
Privateer (the very first one),
Earth 2160 and so on.

I have borrowed again the DOW to see if the problem comes only with WA. But the same happens with DOW.
To me, must be the game. It can't be explained otherwise :(

[blackjoker4215]

So what drivers that are currently out that do not have this damn lag. I got 5.10 drivers and i shot myself in the foot there, I recently rolled back to 5.6 and the lag is still there, what do I need to roll back to?

[Moe]

iniochos, please create a new thread and include your warnings.log and dxdiag.txt.

[Rip Van Winkle]

Patched to 1.4... Stuttering like mad... installed 5.6 Cat Drivers.. smooth as a ... you know what...

Submitted a ticket to ATI.. some hope !!!!

GFx Card.. Sapphire Radeon 9800 AIW SE 128MB

[Fatfool]

Patched to 1.4... Stuttering like mad... installed 5.6 Cat Drivers.. smooth as a ... you know what...

Submitted a ticket to ATI.. some hope !!!!

GFx Card.. Sapphire Radeon 9800 AIW SE 128MB
first you'll get an automated reply almost immediately. ofcourse, its crap and you have to send them a sort of error log. then they'll tell you to use an older driver set.

[Evan_gelion]

I wanted to confirm something.

FEAR experiences the exact same problem with the new drivers. The EXACT same problem. My frame rate at max setting is consistently at 60 FPS. The PROBLEM is it the stutter. Same as DoW.

So I guess we know whose really at fault, don't we?

Rolling back the old drivers, unfortunatly, is of little consolation to anyone, and I do mean anyone with the new cards. All those who just bought the X800 series--guess wer're just screwed. The 5.6 seem to not work for these things.

Great.

Edit: Rolling back as far as 5.1 has had no apparent effect. In fact, it things to have hurt the frame rate while stuttering still. I can NOT figure this out. Some games it's fine, other it's broken. Apparently the x800XL just isn't working out.

[iniochos]

Moe : OK i will do it.
As soon as i get home.

[El_Coyote]

i had iniochos' problem aswell at one point. when i rebooted later, i was told to hook my radeon up to the external power connector. i turned the puter off and jiggled it around a bit.. and it worked fine again.
first and last time i saw that error.

[BERSERK3R]

I wanted to confirm something.

FEAR experiences the exact same problem with the new drivers. The EXACT same problem. My frame rate at max setting is consistently at 60 FPS. The PROBLEM is it the stutter. Same as DoW.

So I guess we know whose really at fault, don't we?

Rolling back the old drivers, unfortunatly, is of little consolation to anyone, and I do mean anyone with the new cards. All those who just bought the X800 series--guess wer're just screwed. The 5.6 seem to not work for these things.

Great.

Edit: Rolling back as far as 5.1 has had no apparent effect. In fact, it things to have hurt the frame rate while stuttering still. I can NOT figure this out. Some games it's fine, other it's broken. Apparently the x800XL just isn't working out.

I can confirm that, I own a ASUS X800XT PE.

[ThalnosX]

Ya I have the same problem with my system (P4 3.2ghz Prescott core, 1gb of RAM, ATI X800 Pro, Asus P4C800-E Deluxe mobo). I checked my FPS while playing at everything max, and the fps never went under 30, but it was stuttering like freaking crazy.

[blork]

had no problems with fear.
no luck except back to 5.1 (which makes other stuff hateful) thankfully laptop is currently installing dow, with a nvidia card.

[Maktaka]

Figured I'd chime in that I'm having this problem with a Radeon 9800 Pro as well. Sounds like the problem is specific to the Radeon 9800 chip (forget what the architecture is called).

Unless I've missed someone chiming in about a non-9800 card malfunctioning. Or perhaps someone has successfully exchanged their card for another ATI model (either upgrade or downgrade) and eliminated the issue?

I've heard a few people say they're going nVidia with their next purchase. I wish I could do the same. I've got an ATI TV Wonder card (I'm watching TV as I write this using that card) which I've heard doesn't play nice with nVidia cards installed.

EDIT: Shoulda finished reading the last page. Errors still exist for newer cards. Bugger. Guess I won't be upgrading any time soon.

[Fatfool]

Figured I'd chime in that I'm having this problem with a Radeon 9800 Pro as well. Sounds like the problem is specific to the Radeon 9800 chip (forget what the architecture is called).

Unless I've missed someone chiming in about a non-9800 card malfunctioning. Or perhaps someone has successfully exchanged their card for another ATI model (either upgrade or downgrade) and eliminated the issue?

I've heard a few people say they're going nVidia with their next purchase. I wish I could do the same. I've got an ATI TV Wonder card (I'm watching TV as I write this using that card) which I've heard doesn't play nice with nVidia cards installed.

EDIT: Shoulda finished reading the last page. Errors still exist for newer cards. Bugger. Guess I won't be upgrading any time soon.


anyway, your ATI wonder card is a AGP card right? you won't be able to have that in your system with a Nvidia card unless either card is PCI or something.

[yandaoben]

Hi so is there a definite version that fixes the crashes/lockups/stuttering issues?

[Immortal]

I wanted to confirm something.

FEAR experiences the exact same problem with the new drivers. The EXACT same problem. My frame rate at max setting is consistently at 60 FPS. The PROBLEM is it the stutter. Same as DoW.

So I guess we know whose really at fault, don't we?


Its interesting you mention FEAR.
ATI has put a new BETA driver set out, the Catalyst 5.10a that fixes the intermitent graphic problems for FEAR and Quake 4, so this may also help all of us with DOW.

I cant put a link in it seems, so just search for Catalyst 5.10a or go to TweakGuides homepage and take a look there!

Hope this helps guys, i cant test it out as my PC with the 9800 Pro in it is not around ATM, so if someone can test it out and report back it will be appreciated!

Cheers,
Immortal

[BERSERK3R]

Its interesting you mention FEAR.
ATI has put a new BETA driver set out, the Catalyst 5.10a that fixes the intermitent graphic problems for FEAR and Quake 4, so this may also help all of us with DOW.

I cant put a link in it seems, so just search for Catalyst 5.10a or go to TweakGuides homepage and take a look there!

Hope this helps guys, i cant test it out as my PC with the 9800 Pro in it is not around ATM, so if someone can test it out and report back it will be appreciated!

Cheers,
Immortal
I have read that someone who owns a MSI Neo 2 platinum and a X800XT and had installed 5.10 and his pc couldnt boot anymore, but i don't know if it happens with 5.10a, and this driver is officially for X1000 videocards, but it might give a good performance though.

[iniochos]

OK everyone,
here (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?p=1193974#post1193974) is my new thread.
If you are interested, pay a visit. :wave:

[Immortal]

It SHOULD work for all the other cards that the catalysts support too.

[BERSERK3R]

I just installed 5.10a and I had no problems yet, altough the menu buttons have no sluggisch reaction anymore, the game still stutters! :rage:
I have a X800XT PE and a MSI neo 2 platinum.

[Immortal]

shame, when will ATI get off their arses and do something about it....

[hooner]

Thanks for the info about roling back drivers and the Omega drivers.

I only have a RAdeon 9800pro and a 2-3ghz PC with 512 RAM and changing to these drivers now means I can run DoW on full graphics settings with no stutter.
Other games I have also work much smoother now.

Cheers! :rofl:

[Termight]

I'm running WA on a:

2Ghz Pentium M
1 Gig of ram
Radeon 9700
Omega 5.9
lots of free drive space, no virii or anything else

and it's still stuttering. I found a post (http://forums.relicnews.com/showpost.php?p=1190986&postcount=13) that suggested disabling Vsync. It works, after a fashion, for me. I still get stuttering, especially around water (could this be part of the problem?), but not nearly as bad.

I know that the common solution proposed here it to roll back the driver to 5.6, however SC3 doesn't run work a **** with those drivers on my machine.

Anyway, just my $0.02 :)

[Evan_gelion]

ATI has confirmed that there is a problem with DoW and Fear to me in the ticket and they're working on it.

But don't call it studder. The guy was telling me to format and restart my entire computer until I asked him to tell me what the "Known problem with DoW was."

His response was...

That when a certain amount of squads are on the screen, performance takes a huge hit!

You know... like... it pauses every few seconds.

Like a STUTTER.

LIKE I SAID IN THE ORIGINAL TICKET!

Argh.

Anyway, at least I got them to acknowledge it.

[yandaoben]

Eh so what's your point/conclusion?

[Evan_gelion]

That ATI has finally admitted that there is a problem with the recent patches and that they are supposedly fixing it, and that the problem is not with DoW, more or less.

[Off-ShoRe]

Might Service Pack (2) be the issue ?

First:

Duron1200/512MB/Radeon9600 PRO/Service Pack2 --> Stuttering. On pause it would be smooth as silk.

Then:

Sempron3000/512MB/Radeon9600 PRO/NO Service Pack --> No Stuttering...


Tried same driver versions, didn't make a difference. Only thing worth mentioning might be that 5.6 gives me no stutters on my new system whereas other versions do (though it stuttered WITH 5.6 on the old setup which leads me to believe new driver versions alter a setting that shouldnt be altered). Otherwise, it might either be the new proc/mem/board or some software related issue. But because ppl have reported issues using Semprons and alike i suspect the latter...

Yeye even though ATi has more or less confirmed the issue.

[iniochos]

Hi There,
I dont know if it is a miracle. :?:
Suddenly the WA DEMO is working. No more crashes or white frames.
Just like that. It simply works :confused:

I wonder if i install the DOW again, should have the same pro or it will run smoothly.

[TBS]

Off-ShoRe: it wont be SP2.

[L`zard]

Gentlemen.

First: my stats;

Intel 2.4 @533mh on a ABIT motherboard (if your interested i'LL come up with the board specs...
ati 9500pro (which sometimes reads as a 9700) 400ramdac chip, eh?
512mb of 333 dr ram..........system Ram
OS: xp-pro, type 2

xxxxxxxxxx

So far, every mod I've placed into this game runs like silk......even tho I've got 2-3 third party proggies running 'security' in the backround ( old days would be TSR programs).....

Have DoW and many of the mods loaded, will be getting WA expansion tommorow or the day after.....

Presently using the 1/2 scale mod in ALL the games I play, including 'steel legion', and everything, repeat ALL of it works just fine.

xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Psts here are making me nervous, eh?

My games don't fk up, so why do other people's?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

PS: this is the same system I used to play 'mechwarrior-mercenaries', AND run 'teamspeak'& an IRC proggy at the same time.

I'm SO needing to build my next box, yet I can't understand why so many others are having problems.

While I'm looking forward to PCIEXPRESS MBoards, and a whole new 'box', you guys seem to have problems with the fairly new boxes extant at the moment.

Are there not 'techies'?

WTF, over?

[Fatfool]

Gentlemen.

First: my stats;

Intel 2.4 @533mh on a ABIT motherboard (if your interested i'LL come up with the board specs...
ati 9500pro (which sometimes reads as a 9700) 400ramdac chip, eh?
512mb of 333 dr ram..........system Ram
OS: xp-pro, type 2

xxxxxxxxxx

So far, every mod I've placed into this game runs like silk......even tho I've got 2-3 third party proggies running 'security' in the backround ( old days would be TSR programs).....

Have DoW and many of the mods loaded, will be getting WA expansion tommorow or the day after.....

Presently using the 1/2 scale mod in ALL the games I play, including 'steel legion', and everything, repeat ALL of it works just fine.

xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Psts here are making me nervous, eh?

My games don't fk up, so why do other people's?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

PS: this is the same system I used to play 'mechwarrior-mercenaries', AND run 'teamspeak'& an IRC proggy at the same time.

I'm SO needing to build my next box, yet I can't understand why so many others are having problems.

While I'm looking forward to PCIEXPRESS MBoards, and a whole new 'box', you guys seem to have problems with the fairly new boxes extant at the moment.

Are there not 'techies'?

WTF, over?
the issue can 'be fixed' now. You'll need to turn off the V sync and it works fine.

I think we need Moe to put a big fat sticky on this problem and solution.

[yandaoben]

1.) uninstall curent driver
2.) reboot
3.) install new driver

is this the correct procedure for updating any catalyst drivers?

[L`zard]

Sirs;

The one thing I've done that made the most difference vis system performance was to go into bios for my MB and raise the voltage for both the cpu and the agp settings.

Not by a lot, mind you, just by a notch for each.

Methinx that a lot of this issue will be determined by individual's particular 'box' settups. Especially when it comes to AMD mboards..........

FatFool is right, this will need serious techies as one solution won't work for all.......

[Xang]

5.11 catalysts seem to have fixed the issue.

They are beta but they do seem to work.

TO clarify... I have a 9800 pro

[BERSERK3R]

5.11 catalysts seem to have fixed the issue.

They are beta but they do seem to work.
I just installed 5.11 beta but I still have stutter problem.

X800XT PE
AMD64 3500+
MSI Neo2 Platinum
Windows 2k

[Off-ShoRe]

Well, the weird thing about this is that while for some ppl a driver change DOES work, (it did for me) for others it doesnt... Which might as well mean that a voltage change may or may not work for someone.

[Curuthanir]

I'm using an ATI 9800 Pro w/ 128 mb, and the latest drivers. (5.10?) What fixed the stuttering problem for me was turning off the AGP Fast Write, AGP Write, and AGP Read. I also turned off the Wait for Vertical Refresh (Vsync).

I remembered this being a fix for Everquest 2 issues with this card.

Hope this helps.

[BERSERK3R]

The Ati Catalyst 5.11 drivers are released and I found a bit of DOW in the change log at the "known issues" part:


WARHAMMER: DAWN OF WAR: Starting a skirmish game on a 4 player map under Windows XP, may result in the game performance appearing choppy when using an ATI Radeon® X800 series, and having all of the game options set to high. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20974
Hope it's only with 4 player skirmish, but I have installed the 5.11 beta, maybe the final version has the choppyness fixed, but I think not.

* Added 5.11 driver link *

[Fatfool]

The Ati Catalyst 5.11 drivers are released and I found a bit of DOW in the change log at the "known issues" part:


Hope it's only with 4 player skirmish, but I have installed the 5.11 beta, maybe the final version has the choppyness fixed, but I think not.

* Added 5.11 driver link *
hmm.. they haven't gotten the 5.11 mobility ones out yet.......

[BERSERK3R]

Nope 5.11 final doesn't fix it :gonemad: :jaw:
I think they have a fix when DOW 2 is released.

[Fatfool]

ok got they've loaded the 5.11 mobility for download. don't think i'm gona install it though....

[Maktaka]

According to ATI's own driver release info, the 5.11's have the stuttering problem. According to me and my Radeon 9800 Pro, they fix it completely. Yay! If you haven't yet, try the 5.11 Cats, they may fix it for you.

[TBS]

hmm, but they didnt fix it for berserker's x800XT, odd.

[basuatreya]

I am now testing the 9600 Pro with Cat 5.11. After tonight's game I'll update here on the performance.

[Fatfool]

According to ATI's own driver release info, the 5.11's have the stuttering problem. According to me and my Radeon 9800 Pro, they fix it completely. Yay! If you haven't yet, try the 5.11 Cats, they may fix it for you.
o.O it works?

ok i'll go download the mobility ones and try them on my 9700

edit: it works! the mobility catalyst works on the mobility 9700

[basuatreya]

I've been playing with 5.11 on my 9600 Pro and it has been working excellent. I think it might have even improved the frame rates, but that could be my luck with non-laggers.

[Lamps]

Problem solved with 9800XT aswell.

[vecctor]

Radeon 5.11 solved stuttering issues and improved framerate - I have a 9800 Pro 128MB.

I tried it first without disabling v-sync and it seemed to still do fine. Turned it off just to be sure though. I might do some more experiments to see if it makes a difference now.

[BERSERK3R]

Ok it is solved for the following cards:

9600 pro
9800 pro
9800 XT

Please don't post a reply that your card is working if it is one of the mentioned above, or we get all "double posts" and the topic is getting cluttery. ;)

Just post a reply if you have a card which problems are solved and is not mentioned above or elsewhere in this topic.

[RODNiC]

mmm.. I got a 9600 Pro on my older system and didn't really fix anything for me..
I re-instaled my older Nvidia 5200 and is damn smoother! (use this system only for home Lan gaming)

Thank God on my Gaming PC I have a 6600 that works more then fine.....

OKi.. here are the DxDiag of my ATI 6900Pro PC...


Can't figure out whild my VERY OLDER P3 800Mhz with N5200 and 360Mb of old Ram is playing Dawn Of War smoother!!!!

[BERSERK3R]

mmm.. I got a 9600 Pro on my older system and didn't really fix anything for me..
I re-instaled my older Nvidia 5200 and is damn smoother! (use this system only for home Lan gaming)

Thank God on my Gaming PC I have a 6600 that works more then fine.....

OKi.. here are the DxDiag of my ATI 6900Pro PC...


Can't figure out whild my VERY OLDER P3 800Mhz with N5200 and 360Mb of old Ram is playing Dawn Of War smoother!!!!
which video driver version are you using?

[RODNiC]

The latest one.. 5.11
Even gave a go at 5.6 ad so on.. but nothing changes!

Any Help anyone? I've been trying to play a decent LAN games for weeks now! :fight:

[BERSERK3R]

* Added Omega driver based on 5.11 to the list *
EDIT: * Added Ati Catalyst 5.12 *
EDIT 2: 5.12 also don't seem to fix it :sniper: :Puppy:

[BERSERK3R]

*kick*

I have changed some links from the ati site that didn't work anymore and changed them to guru3d links.

Also I have made the list a bit more userfriendly.

[wendigo4160]

I don't think ati will ever fix the driver problem with DoW. Why should they do it now, when they have known it for about 4/5 months now?

[primzahl13]

Did they remove the Control Panel Version from 5.12? I just hate the Control Center

[BERSERK3R]

Did they remove the Control Panel Version from 5.12? I just hate the Control Center
Check the first post of this thread, then you'll see that you can download with control panel ;)

Just added the 5.13 BETA drivers to the list.

[ÜberJumper]

The latest Catalyst drivers have a fix for Dawn of War.



WARHAMMER: DAWN OF WAR: Starting a skirmish game on a 4 player map under Windows XP, may result in the game performance appearing choppy when using an ATI Radeon® X800 series, and having all of the game options set to high. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20974


https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=293

These are the final 5.13, non-beta.

[TBS]

Excellent - do the 5.13's work for you BERSERK3R?

[BERSERK3R]

The latest Catalyst drivers have a fix for Dawn of War.

https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=293

These are the final 5.13, non-beta.

It is still in "non resolved issues" and it looks the same as in the previous releasenotes, so it is NOT fixed ;)


Excellent - do the 5.13's work for you BERSERK3R?
I havn't tried them yet.
I don't think the driver will fix the issue considering the issue is still the same in the notes, but I might give it a try though, and if it does work I'll spread the news ;)

[ÜberJumper]

AHHH Crap, copied that from a site as I was working on other stuff.

BOO ATI.

[SNeakY_BuGGeR]

Just thought that I would let you all know that ATI have released a NEW ATI CONTROL CENTER suite. it was released on 21/12/2005. I have installed it on my computer and my problems have totally 100% Ceased.
I used to get jumpy reactions from my mouse etc when I was clicking on the mini map. The screen would lurch and freeze slightly then switch to where I had clicked.
IT is superb now!
version 5.13 is now available for you peeps ENJOY...
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=640
Make sure that you download the removal tool from ATI too and use it to remove your drivers and the old centre too. It removes it thoroughly and when you restart you computer ignore the found new hardware wizard and run your new control centre suite from the (desktop where you have saved it to) Then restart your computer and set up your display to your desired settings.. best wishes and Merry Christmas

Da Sneakster....

[BERSERK3R]

Just thought that I would let you all know that ATI have released a NEW ATI CONTROL CENTER suite. it was released on 21/12/2005. I have installed it on my computer and my problems have totally 100% Ceased.
I used to get jumpy reactions from my mouse etc when I was clicking on the mini map. The screen would lurch and freeze slightly then switch to where I had clicked.
IT is superb now!
version 5.13 is now available for you peeps ENJOY...
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=640
Make sure that you download the removal tool from ATI too and use it to remove your drivers and the old centre too. It removes it thoroughly and when you restart you computer ignore the found new hardware wizard and run your new control centre suite from the (desktop where you have saved it to) Then restart your computer and set up your display to your desired settings.. best wishes and Merry Christmas

Da Sneakster....
That's great, but which videocard do you have?

[SNeakY_BuGGeR]

a Radeon 9800pro thingy. I am no expert, but from what I have seen you have to use the conrol suite to set up your card properly and have the latest drivers installed on your motherboard for it. It is not just as easy as installing a new driver..... you HAVE TO UNINSTALL and DUMP the old driver first!
Once the centre is installed adjust and play with it until you get the right settings. What I also noticed is that if you overclock your comp it does not like it too much either. So I dunno, worked for me playing around and keeping my overclocking to below 15%.
It used to stutter around and have jerkey motions but now it is as smooth as a babies bum!

[Phoenix4910]

Ok could someone give me a step by step outline to update my Catalyst Driver? I have a radeon 9800 pro card with 5.11 installed currently, but I just purchased the pc from a friend who knew what he was doing, and I'm afraid I might screw something up if I try updating it on my own. Thanks and sorry for the run on sentence!

[TBS]

download the driver installer file and run it, you cant go wrong really.

[SNeakY_BuGGeR]

yup all that I did was to download the uninstall catalyst drivers tool to my desktop and then the I did the same for the 5.13 catalyst control suite. I ran the uninstall tool first and my desktop resized and was different settings, (This meant that the old drivers had been removed from my computer). Then I restarted my computer and ran the install control suite.exe file from my desktop. Then I restarted my computer again and fiddled with the settings in the control suite. I have turned of wait for vertical refresh and set the refresh rate to the same as my monitor is.. (85hz) all monitors have different refresh rates etc.. It sounds complicated but it took me about 10 minutes from start to finish.. the game runs great and I have no problems at all. the lighting effects are awesome and the movie looks great! I have mt pc overclocked to 10%. Once I set this I restarted my comp again and ran winter assault no problems at all. Looks fantastic and runs great!

[Off-ShoRe]

Ok could someone give me a step by step outline to update my Catalyst Driver? I have a radeon 9800 pro card with 5.11 installed currently, but I just purchased the pc from a friend who knew what he was doing, and I'm afraid I might screw something up if I try updating it on my own. Thanks and sorry for the run on sentence!
Well it's not that hard but I can understand your concern. If the explanation the previous two posters didnt help you enough, here's a generic way of updating a video driver:

- start --> settings --> config screen --> software --> select ati driver stuff and click 'remove' or whatever its called in ur language;
- confirm all steps until a window pops up that asks u to reboot;
- reboot your system. If all has gone well, u should boot up in a lower resolution with lower display settings. If that's not the case then something may be wrong. In that situation, go to My computer --> properties --> device manager and check the display tab to see if ur previous card has been removed. If not, then repeat procedure from step 1. Usually, if it displays a yellow question mark, it's been succesfully removed.
- Now execute the exe file of ur new driver file and follow steps as needed.

Also, be sure to have at least directx9.0c running (downloadable from either microsoft.com or the DoW cd).

Just don't be afraid to foul up too much. WinXP is a really solid application and it lets u foul up a lot before it goes awal.

[noise_pollution]

So... im sorry if this has been said before but have the latest drivers fixed the problemor not? 5.13 or something.. i reinstalled windows so im wondering if i should install the new drivers or reinstall the old ones i had.

Edit: tks TBS ill do that

[TBS]

they seem to have fixed it for some people - give them a try, if they dont work for you uninstall them and go back to your older ones.

[Worf]

Catalyst 6.1 drivers are out.

Omegadriver from guru3d (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1303)
Original ATI drivers (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27)

[nirad9er]

I have catalyst 6.1 and the following specs and mine gets laggy with everything HIGH 1280x1024 4xAA 16AF with a bunch of buildings and characters at my base. Its such BS.
Its funny how I get slow downs in this game but I can MAX out FEAR at 1280x1024 4x/16 with soft shadows.

x1800xt @ 700/800 3dmark05 = 10013
Opteron 170 dual core @ 2.7ghz
2gb pc3200

[-=MUFASA=-]

yeah with my specs im running 800x600 with lower settings and when more units appear on the screen it justs lags up. . .

sorry if its been asked...
do the older catalyst drivers run the game better??? cause im running 5.12 at the moment.
i guess ill download 6.1 and see how it goes.

My Specs -
celeron D pro. 2.6Ghz
768 mb RAM
128mb Radeon 9250 graphics

its such a pain though, my mates cpu has an intergrated graphics card and its smooth as. . .

Mitch

[BERSERK3R]

Sorry for my absense lately but got some computer problems.
I have seen in the issues part of the release log for the 6.2 Ati drivers that the fps issue still isn't solved :gonemad: :gonemad: :gonemad:

[Ellisthion]

Incidentally, although the latest Catalyst fixed my lag, I found that running the game in Safe Mode magically fixed things...

[BERSERK3R]

Incidentally, although the latest Catalyst fixed my lag, I found that running the game in Safe Mode magically fixed things...
Which videocard do you have?
It's logical that save mode fixes problems well, cause that's where save mode is for, but it can turn down audio ect., but what did it fix?

[BERSERK3R]

Well there is a new Ati driver 6.3, but it still has the problem as you can read in the log :jaw:
It is driving me nuts!
I have a very vast pc (X800XT PE), but the game runs like SH*T!!
I do tried all drivers, and stuff, but nothing helps.

I think when the time comes that its fixed there will be a DOW9 or something. :snore:

[YoZH]

By the way, I didn't notice any improvement, after installing 5.11 drivers, although it was said that they fix 9800 problem.

Confirming that 6.3 doesn't fix this irritating bug, i've sent a ticket to ATI. As someone said, maybe if there will be more tickets, we'll have the problem solved in less time. It seems that ATI tries to ignore this situation, as it proclaims that the bug is subject to 4 player skirmish map.

P.S. By the way, did anyone contact the developer's tech support? If so, how did they comment the situation?

[MeatPacker]

I just updated my ATI drivers (6.3) from ancient days. Many nice things to say (I have a 9800 pro) but is there any way to bypass the worthless Micro$oft .NET loading screen? Thx...

EDIT: Alright, since nobody seems to know, one of these days I'll go looking for the answer myself. Damn the new Catalyst drivers are sweet, and I turned of vsynch and I think it maybe running better.

[BERSERK3R]

Weee! (well not for me though :loco: )

Download Ati Catalyst 6.4 drivers here (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1374).

The new Ati drivers are released, and should fix "the" fps problem..I think..:

WARHAMMER: DAWN OF WAR: Starting a skirmish game on a 4 player map under Windows XP, no longer results in the game performance appearing choppy when using an ATI Radeon® X800 series, and having all of the game options set to high. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-20974

I have installed them and no fix for me :flamer: .
I run win2k though, but like to know if it fixes the "lag"/"low fps at a small batle" or whatever for persons who had the problem with it like me (X800XT PE) and not the 9800 owners cause that seemed to be resolved by turning v-sync off, and that's not the case with my card, and others.

So test away, and let me/us know, if Ati screwed up! ;)
And if it didn't work but you solved it by changing something in the game or whatever please tell that also ;)


Btw, the only warning I get is this and don't seem to have any relations with the problem I guess?
I havn't installed a mod or anything like that btw.


00:32:59.01 MOD -- Initializing Mod wxp, 1.0
00:32:59.01 MOD -- Warning: Failed to load archive 'W40k\W40kDataGOTY.sga'
00:32:59.01 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'WXP\Locale\english\Data'.
00:32:59.01 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'WXP\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'.
00:32:59.01 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'WXP\Data_Sound\Full'.
00:32:59.01 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'WXP\Data_Music'.
00:32:59.01 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'WXP\Data_Whm\High'.
00:32:59.01 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'W40k\Locale\english\Data'.
00:32:59.01 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'W40k\Data_Shared_Textures\Full'.
00:32:59.01 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'W40k\Data_Sound\Full'.
00:32:59.01 MOD -- Warning: Failed to open folder 'W40k\Data_Whm\High'.
00:32:59.01 GAME -- Warning: Skipping MOD 'w40k' campaign 'DATA:SCENARIOS\SP\DAWNOFWAR.CAMP'.

[Rahtama]

Im using CAT 6.4 with x800xtpe as well and havnt noticed any major improvement with .. have'nt tested with fraps tho

In my experince turning vsync does help the x800xtpe you can see the difference when you play an asm spammer or when alot of units are in battle.

I was hoping this fix would mean you could turn shadows up to high.. 6.4 hasnt improved this for me.

From reading on the rage3d.com forums, it seems that it's not the graphics card/drivers that give choppy gameplay, it is the developer's game code and/or the system being CPU-limited. By CPU-limited they mean your CPU,system bandwidth etc. Oblivion is having a similar problem, where ppl have the lastest most expensive hardware and still get 20FPS in some areas. It is quite well-known that Dawn of War is very CPU-dependent, go figure..

In my case, I'll wait for quad-core CPU's and a corresponding patch from Relic to make use of it.. to get the liquid FPS (60FPS+ screen packed heavy battle) Im looking for @ 1280x960 and above with 4xaa, 16af, v-sync on, shadows on high. :drool:

I wonder how the 7900GTX's, 1900XTX's with highest-end CPU's run this game ? Do they boost FPS to high levels (60+) during screen packed Tier2/3 battles ?

[BERSERK3R]

Im using CAT 6.4 with x800xtpe as well and havnt noticed any major improvement with .. have'nt tested with fraps tho

In my experince turning vsync does help the x800xtpe you can see the difference when you play an asm spammer or when alot of units are in battle.

I was hoping this fix would mean you could turn shadows up to high.. 6.4 hasnt improved this for me.

From reading on the rage3d.com forums, it seems that it's not the graphics card/drivers that give choppy gameplay, it is the developer's game code and/or the system being CPU-limited. By CPU-limited they mean your CPU,system bandwidth etc. Oblivion is having a similar problem, where ppl have the lastest most expensive hardware and still get 20FPS in some areas. It is quite well-known that Dawn of War is very CPU-dependent, go figure..

In my case, I'll wait for quad-core CPU's and a corresponding patch from Relic to make use of it.. to get the liquid FPS (60FPS+ screen packed heavy battle) Im looking for @ 1280x960 and above with 4xaa, 16af, v-sync on, shadows on high. :drool:

I wonder how the 7900GTX's, 1900XTX's with highest-end CPU's run this game ? Do they boost FPS to high levels (60+) during screen packed Tier2/3 battles ?
Man thanks for this reply, this is a very important one!
From the beginning I thought the problem was at the game code so RELIC, and not ATI.
Now we can start nagging at Relic, to fix this ASAP...(I wanted to place some swear words here but i wont do that) ;) .

Can you immagine I semi bought this pc to play DOW at nice fps but I can't even play the game at 20 fps or more (even with all settings to the lowest POSSIBLE!) when in a small battle this is just IN-SANE!

So please, please, please Relic fix this.
Or I am throught with it!
This is a really serious issue.
It's like the opposite world, you gotto have a low spec pc to run the game smooth but a high spec pc to run it choppy.

What can I do for you to get this fixed Relic? ;)

Seems a bit sad to post something like this, but all the time I/we was messing around with the drivers and while it's not even a driver problem.

[Moe]

Rahtama, could you link us to the post in question on the rage3d forums please?

[heathencelt]

Just as a side...

i have posted the official relic links in my thread (technical support contacts).

Here it is:

http://www.relic.com/support/support.php

bye

[Rahtama]

http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33852195

"sireric" is an ATi employee. He is talking about Oblivion, but I can't see how it would'nt apply to DoW, thus explaining the choppy gameplay at high resolutions with all settings on high.

[BERSERK3R]

Anyone got some new/more information regarding this issue?

[RODNiC]

OK.. the CPU 'limt' does makes sense..
But I'm still to explain how both DOW and WA, run with the same crap FrameRate
on 2 of my older PCs:
one being an old Pentium3 with an Nvidea 5200
and the other a Pentium 4 2.4Ghz with a Rodeon 9600!
Surely the Pentium 4 should give better results!!

Then on my current 2.6Ghz Pentium 4 with HT and Nv6600 it runs on everything HIGH.
So I still believe ATI got things to fix......

One more thing...

Has anyone tried if there are compatibility problems with SoundCards drivers??
I'm still to find time and test it.. but i'm getting the impresion that DOW don't like much build-in motherboard sound-cards...

..especially the Realtek

[BERSERK3R]

OK.. the CPU 'limt' does makes sense..
But I'm still to explain how both DOW and WA, run with the same crap FrameRate
on 2 of my older PCs:
one being an old Pentium3 with an Nvidea 5200
and the other a Pentium 4 2.4Ghz with a Rodeon 9600!
Surely the Pentium 4 should give better results!!

Then on my current 2.6Ghz Pentium 4 with HT and Nv6600 it runs on everything HIGH.
So I still believe ATI got things to fix......

One more thing...

Has anyone tried if there are compatibility problems with SoundCards drivers??
I'm still to find time and test it.. but i'm getting the impresion that DOW don't like much build-in motherboard sound-cards...

..especially the Realtek
Well I have tried to turn off audio acceleration, but that doesn't work.
I have onboard audio and that is turned off in the bios.
And I have a Soundblaster platinum 2 ZS.

But from what I have tested I don't think it's caused by the soundcard, onboard or not.

[RODNiC]

I see.. 10x for the answer anyways ;-)

[Noseybonk]

Just to report that the latest 6.4 driver package completely solved my 'jerkiness' issue with WA 1.41: removed previous drivers as per the ATI website, installed new ones -> smooth as silk.

P4 2.8GHz, 1 GB ram, Radeon 9800 pro 128 mb, xp etc etc

[BERSERK3R]

Just to report that the latest 6.4 driver package completely solved my 'jerkiness' issue with WA 1.41: removed previous drivers as per the ATI website, installed new ones -> smooth as silk.

P4 2.8GHz, 1 GB ram, Radeon 9800 pro 128 mb, xp etc etc
I thought the 9800 pro solution was to turn vsync off and that was working before 6.4
But anyhow it didn't solved it for me while my card (x800) is even named in the issue part of the driver log from ati.
So that is really odd.

[Noseybonk]

Yeah Vsync on/off never made a difference with me - and whichever drivers I tried didnt make a difference either, until now. Go figure

[BERSERK3R]

Yeah Vsync on/off never made a difference with me - and whichever drivers I tried didnt make a difference either, until now. Go figure
Hm, very strange so now the X800 series need to be fixed..unless someone already got it to work and has a X800 serie videocard?

EDIT: Btw, so you installed 6.4 but did you just install driver only, or with Control Panel, or with Catalyst Control Center?
And what are your settings like, A.I.(off/advanced/standard), Resolution (ingame and desktop), refreshrate (ingame and in control panel/center), Agp speed (8x -> 4x or just 4x) etc etc.

Cause one small change might be the solution.

EDIT2: I just did another test.
- I have set all settings in the Catalyst Control Center to performance.
- Desktop settings: 1280x1024 85hz / agp8x / Vsync always off.
I also tried 800x600 16bit as desktop, but the same result.

This is my local.ini config for WA (note: disabled sound):


[global]
cameradetail=0
currentmodwa=wxp
dynamiclights=0
event_detail_level=0
force_watch_movies=1
fx_detail_level=0
modeldetail=0
parentalcontrol=1
persistent_bodies=0
persistent_decals=0
playerprofile=Profile1
screenadapter=0
screenantialias=0
screendepth=16
screendevice=Dx9 : Hardware TnL
screengamma=10
screenheight=600
screennovsync=1
screenrefresh=0
screenwidth=800
screenwindowed=0
shadowblob=0
shadowmap=0
shadowvolume=0
sound_enabled=0
sound_limitsamples=1
sound_nrchannels=16
sound_quality=0
terrainenablefowblur=0
texturedetail=0

This the ingame result, and that with my specs :disagree: :

AMD Athlon 64 3500+
2gig memory
Asus X800XT PE 256mb
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS

And the "funny" thing about this is that if I set all settings to the highest possible my fps gets just a bit lower...

As you can see at the top right corner 20 fps (and that is about the max) (image is original size) :wowsers:

Although I had 20fps the gamespeed was really fast, and while I set it as normal so the game runs really fast (too fast) with these settings but it's still choppy :banghead:

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/3463/relic000048zu.jpg

[BERSERK3R]

I send my ticket to Ati and got a reply regarding the performance issue:


Based on our experience, performance related issues are usually due to hardware limitation, improper software installation or system configuration settings. Click the following link to review the full details for trouble shooting performance related issues

The link: http://www.ati.com/online/customercare/solutions/performanceissues.html

Just follow the link and follow the instructions and let me/us know if it helped.
I will also give it a try, duh :P

[BERSERK3R]

Still no fixes/news etc?
So the ones who had the problem still have it right...?

[Rahtama]

I doubht even a x1900xtx would solve the issue, we need quad-core CPU's to smoothly deal with all the units on-screen. I use x800xtpe (580/1200), p4 prescott 3.6, 1gig ddr400 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6).

I get good FPS in heavy battles with medium shadows and terrain. Everything else is maxed out including the high res textures tweak. (1280x960 6xAA 16xAF vsync off)

Note, if you use vsync on, you get a touch more lag during gameplay. Its a small amount but it is noticable.

[BERSERK3R]

I doubht even a x1900xtx would solve the issue, we need quad-core CPU's to smoothly deal with all the units on-screen. I use x800xtpe (580/1200), p4 prescott 3.6, 1gig ddr400 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6).

I get good FPS in heavy battles with medium shadows and terrain. Everything else is maxed out including the high res textures tweak. (1280x960 6xAA 16xAF vsync off)

Note, if you use vsync on, you get a touch more lag during gameplay. Its a small amount but it is noticable.
I got a X800XT PE also and a AMD64 3500+ and 2gig memory, and I get with all settings to highes at 1280x1024 about 20max fps in battle (3vs3) (checked with fraps) and vsync is off.
Did you checked the fps or did you just felt it had good fps.
Also can you tell met what you changed or installed for ati drivers etc., so I might solve it too. You can also pm me if you want.

[Rahtama]

3v3 will be far more CPU intensive than 1v1 which is what I mainly play. This is why you are in the 20fps range. Didnt check my FPS with fraps cause I didnt need too, I can tell if it's enough fps by the smoothness of the animations. It's prolly around 40-60fps during tier2/tier3 heavy battles 1v1.

Using cat6.4 with Ati Tray Tools with AF optimisation turned on, cat a.i off, geometry instancing on.

[BERSERK3R]

3v3 will be far more CPU intensive than 1v1 which is what I mainly play. This is why you are in the 20fps range. Didnt check my FPS with fraps cause I didnt need too, I can tell if it's enough fps by the smoothness of the animations. It's prolly around 40-60fps during tier2/tier3 heavy battles 1v1.

Using cat6.4 with Ati Tray Tools with AF optimisation turned on, cat a.i off, geometry instancing on.
You didn't read the most important post I presume.
There are people who play the game with high settings and I guess at least 2vs2 with normal fps, with a much lower specs then my pc!
So 3vs3 can be more CPU intensive but if pc's with (much) lower specs can play 3vs3 or 2vs2 with no performance issues, well then I must have none at 3vs3.

And btw, if I play 3vs3 with all settings to lowes, and I mean the LOWEST possible, even then I get about the same fps so what you are saying isn't what is causing the problem.

Well I really like to hear from the devs themself what a normal fps is for 3vs3.

[RODNiC]

mmm.. been reading a bit here and decided to try Fraps...

I Got P4e 3.2Ghz with HT and a NV6600 (AGP) with 2GB of normal Ram..
The game do plays really smooth and don't have lags.. (all settings on HIGH)
but in 3v3, Fraps do say that I'm running at 20fps..

[Rahtama]

BESERKER, I havent read much earlier posts, but can you provide specific examples of these lower spec'ed machines getting good fps in 3v3 heavy-battles ?

My deduction remains that is a combination of CPU limitation and game coding, much like newly released Oblivion. I think DoW would really benefit from using a physics card to handle this area in the game, thus taking a huge load off the CPU. This may be another option.

RODNiC, thanks for the feedback, if other's reading here can do the same that would be helpful.

[BERSERK3R]

BESERKER, I havent read much earlier posts, but can you provide specific examples of these lower spec'ed machines getting good fps in 3v3 heavy-battles ?

My deduction remains that is a combination of CPU limitation and game coding, much like newly released Oblivion. I think DoW would really benefit from using a physics card to handle this area in the game, thus taking a huge load off the CPU. This may be another option.

RODNiC, thanks for the feedback, if other's reading here can do the same that would be helpful.

I just played 2vs2 LAN game and it ran ok, but even then on those small maps i could notice some performance drops, and my pc should really have ran the game smooth.
It seemes smoother ingame than if I would use fraps, but still I know it should run smoother then it does now.

Here some quotes from people who seem to have no probs anymore, well that was because they turned off vsync and installed newer drivers, but the problem isn't solved for all cards yet, like the X800 series:


I've been playing with 5.11 on my 9600 Pro and it has been working excellent. I think it might have even improved the frame rates, but that could be my luck with non-laggers.

Problem solved with 9800XT aswell.

Radeon 5.11 solved stuttering issues and improved framerate - I have a 9800 Pro 128MB.

I tried it first without disabling v-sync and it seemed to still do fine. Turned it off just to be sure though. I might do some more experiments to see if it makes a difference now.

And here is a quote which prooves the sillyness of the problem:


mmm.. I got a 9600 Pro on my older system and didn't really fix anything for me..
I re-instaled my older Nvidia 5200 and is damn smoother! (use this system only for home Lan gaming)

Thank God on my Gaming PC I have a 6600 that works more then fine.....

OKi.. here are the DxDiag of my ATI 6900Pro PC...


Can't figure out whild my VERY OLDER P3 800Mhz with N5200 and 360Mb of old Ram is playing Dawn Of War smoother!!!!


It would be better if anyone who posts his performance to note the following!!:
- Fraps or own feeling
- 1vs1, 2vs2, 3vs3, online, skirmish
- Control Center/ ATT settings
- Graphic settings in the game (and i mean every setting, also vsync and hires_teamcolor etc)
- Dawn of War and/or Winter Assault

[Rahtama]

Hi again BESERKER,

Thanks for the quotes. All of the quotes except the last one (I'l talk about that in a minute) are quite low-end systems so for them 20-50fps might be smooth for their gaming needs. Especially because they have low-end systems in the first place will mean they dont have particularly high gaming quality needs. This would be disproved if those ppl could provide contradicting fraps numbers in 3v3 with screen-full-action.

The last quote, 1st part, the user may not of uninstalled all the nvidia stuff correctly when he installed his new 9600pro, this would explain the poorer performance also why the 5200 was smoother when re-installed. And this is only one possibilty of many as to why the 9600pro was running slower when all benchmarks on the internet prove otherwise.

[BERSERK3R]

Hi again BESERKER,

Thanks for the quotes. All of the quotes except the last one (I'l talk about that in a minute) are quite low-end systems so for them 20-50fps might be smooth for their gaming needs. Especially because they have low-end systems in the first place will mean they dont have particularly high gaming quality needs. This would be disproved if those ppl could provide contradicting fraps numbers in 3v3 with screen-full-action.

The last quote, 1st part, the user may not of uninstalled all the nvidia stuff correctly when he installed his new 9600pro, this would explain the poorer performance also why the 5200 was smoother when re-installed. And this is only one possibilty of many as to why the 9600pro was running slower when all benchmarks on the internet prove otherwise.
Well you can be right, but I don't think you are.
I think it's really bad for RELIC/THQ/ATI for not letting us know anything about this issue!

And btw, after a clean install of windows, and DOW I have the same problems as I have now so I can say in my case it doesn't make a difference, and think it's the same for others.
And I have tried really all you can imagine.

Hm I have a recorded demo I could make public for fps bench, or if someone has a better/more reliable benchmark?

But we can bench all we can to get more detailed info, but I really think something is wrong with the game and need to be fixed.

I personally think that it can't be fixed cause if it could we should have had some more info from RELIC or THQ already.
I really don't get it, why don't they even say something like "we are a ware of the problem, and/or and working on it".

[Rahtama]

Im not trying to be right but I may be. ;)

I upgraded from a 9800pro to x800xtpe for the purpose of giving a fps boost to all my games and especially DoW. I was surprised to learn that it didnt improve DoW 'low-fps" situations as much as I hoped, so yeah I know first hand about this problem.

Also, Nvidia cards are known to handle shadows better than ATi cards, ie, doom3 etc. This is why shadows on medium is recommended by ATi.

[BERSERK3R]

So, what's the best way to contact RELIC and/or THQ as directly as possible to get a respone.
We can argue about this for another 100 years, but if we don't let RELIC or THQ get involved, it seems that we can wait forever.

So, the best way to contact RELIC or THQ, anyone?

[Rahtama]

Moe might know..

[RODNiC]

Hi again BESERKER,

Thanks for the quotes. All of the quotes except the last one (I'l talk about that in a minute) are quite low-end systems so for them 20-50fps might be smooth for their gaming needs. Especially because they have low-end systems in the first place will mean they dont have particularly high gaming quality needs. This would be disproved if those ppl could provide contradicting fraps numbers in 3v3 with screen-full-action.

The last quote, 1st part, the user may not of uninstalled all the nvidia stuff correctly when he installed his new 9600pro, this would explain the poorer performance also why the 5200 was smoother when re-installed. And this is only one possibilty of many as to why the 9600pro was running slower when all benchmarks on the internet prove otherwise.
Let me make it clearer about the 9600 system (since it's mine that Quote) hehe

The 9600 Drivers where installed on a NEW and CLEAN Windows installation... I only instaled the NVidia drivers after noticing what a crap performance to test what was wrong..

The problem still exits.. the P3 800Mhz with N5200 runs smoother then P4 2.4 with ATI9600...
Surely Fraps will show that the P3 has at MAX 20FPS with everything set on low.. but it's still more playable then the jerky P4 with ATI!

(PS. I'm still to try the 6.04 drivers... the ATI currently have 6.03 OMEGA- Vsync OFF)

[Rahtama]

update:

dow and wa are very shader processing heavy for medium and high levels of shadows. lets remember these games were developed on nvidia's 6800 series, which give better performance in shader related game software, ie. quake4.

ati users with X1800 (16 pixel shader pipes) cards and earlier will gain a significant performance increase by turning shadows to low. (ati recommends setting shadows to medium, lol).

i usually set shadows to medium then as soon as the action gets very heavy and you move to places in the map where shadows are being used.. the performance drops very fast. setting to low eliminates this problem for me. the image quality loss from turning to low is negligable imo, the blocky looking shadows for vehicles and such dont exactly look great anyway. Those with X1900 (48 pixel shader pipes) in theory should be able to set shadows to high.

if shadows set to low i recommend using vsync.

[BERSERK3R]

update:

dow and wa are very shader processing heavy for medium and high levels of shadows. lets remember these games were developed on nvidia's 6800 series, which give better performance in shader related game software, ie. quake4.

ati users with X1800 (16 pixel shader pipes) cards and earlier will gain a significant performance increase by turning shadows to low. (ati recommends setting shadows to medium, lol).

i usually set shadows to medium then as soon as the action gets very heavy and you move to places in the map where shadows are being used.. the performance drops very fast. setting to low eliminates this problem for me. the image quality loss from turning to low is negligable imo, the blocky looking shadows for vehicles and such dont exactly look great anyway. Those with X1900 (48 pixel shader pipes) in theory should be able to set shadows to high.

if shadows set to low i recommend using vsync.
Well I turned all settings to the lowest possible, and still had about 10-20 fps, so that included the shadows, but your sollution may improve it a bit but the problem is still there, and there need something be done about it, and I still havn't heard ANYTHING form the devs!!!
I don't know if it's ATI we must focus on or the game devs, or if it CANT be fixed, or what ever I just want to know if I need to keep installing the new catalyst drivers or just wait for a patch for the game from the devs, and if it cannot be fixed well, than I can put this issue aside and then never have to go berserk when a new ATI driver or Patch for the game is released and see if it's fixed., so devs what is the situation on this issue ????????? :vikingb:

[BERSERK3R]

Well the Ati catalyst 6.5 final drivers are released today so I'm checking that out, and post the results. (don't expect any though....).

[-=MUFASA=-]

hey guys,

yea im looking at getting the ati x800pro agp card, has anybody encounted any problems with this model??

its such a shame that the shite performance of the game has put me off playing it. . .

cheers.

Mitch.

[Mad Onion]

In the release notes of Catalyst 6.4 they said the "choppy gameplay" when shadows in DoW were set to max was solved. And indeed, when I installed those drivers, gameplay was smoother while setting the shadows to high. I don't know if the problem comes back with the latest drivers (they're at 6.5 right now I believe). Somebody might take the time to check that out...I'll be keeping these (so that's Catalyst 6.4 for all you DoW players with ATi hardware).

[grendizer]

Mufasa, don't buy the x800. From whay I've read x800 have lots of problems with dow and have been supposedly adressed by ati.

Go for x1k series or choose nvidia, they have good agp cards.

[-=MUFASA=-]

yea im sick and tired of waiting for this stupid problem to get resolved.

it was either the x800 or 7800gs. . .
nvidia it is then..


Mitch.

[Orois]

I have a ATI radeon 9550 card. a wirid thing happened. i turned off vsync and it fixed it.. but only for one day, and it also deleted my game progress. my campaigen screen looks like this:

Mission 1
Mission 6

it dident delete my saved games tho. :screwy:

[TBS]

changing vsync shouldnt have affected your campaign progress - theres some other problem there.

[Orois]

i sys restored to b4 the the vsync fix stoped working... and it dident work agein there ether. S o my settings were not what made it stop working.:deal:

[TBS]

Checking for viruses is the obvious first thing to do, get Avast! if you dont have your own virus scanner (download it, update it and then run a boot time scan - it will take ages but is very thorough).

[Orois]

ok i ran AVG and trojen remover and no infected files were found.

[TBS]

ok, well keep an eye out for similar weird happenings on your computer. If files begin to disappear or become corrupted frequently your harddrive could have developed errors.

Now, do you still have the ATI problem?

[Orois]

yes i do and i tryed uninstaling and reinstalling to see if the vsync would work agein, with no results.

[TBS]

ok, do you have the very latest drivers?

[Orois]

I am still confused as to why the vsync fix dicided to work for only 24 hours...:werd:

if 6.5 is the latist then yes.

[TBS]

I cant think of any good reason why the fix would only be temporary, I assume you have checked to make sure vsync hasnt been turned back on by some meddling software?

Anyway, try the old 5.6 catalyst drivers.

[Orois]

ok ill roll back my drivers and no acording to Control Panal its still off...

no effect with going back to 5.6 drivers.:fallen:

[TBS]

ok well thats odd, the 5.6 drivers should definately work.

Create a new thread and post a warnings.log, dxdiag and a log from hijackthis (google it) please.

[Orois]

ok its up its called Speed Stuttering.

[Rahtama]

For those still wondering why ATi cards give very low minimum FPS with shadows turned on, here's why ,

"ATI’s cards offer a very small speed reserve in resolutions above 1024x768 because this game uses stencil shadows, requires a high texturing speed, yet keeps within the framework of DirectX 8.0"

source: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/evga-7900gt_16.html

Nvidia cards have technonlgy to deal with stencil shadows where as ati obviously do not at this time of posting. So until ati releases a driver or new card that can handle these stencil shadows, or until Relic changes the games engine.. Nvidia cards are the better performers for decent minimum FPS with shadows.

burp.

[BERSERK3R]

For those still wondering why ATi cards give very low minimum FPS with shadows turned on, here's why ,

"ATI’s cards offer a very small speed reserve in resolutions above 1024x768 because this game uses stencil shadows, requires a high texturing speed, yet keeps within the framework of DirectX 8.0"

source: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/evga-7900gt_16.html

Nvidia cards have technonlgy to deal with stencil shadows where as ati obviously do not at this time of posting. So until ati releases a driver or new card that can handle these stencil shadows, or until Relic changes the games engine.. Nvidia cards are the better performers for decent minimum FPS with shadows.

burp.
Thanks for the info mate!
This is something I've been waiting for, a good explenation.
But not sure what stencil shadows are well at least what that stencil part means.

It seems to only occur when the game is playing, but when for example the game is over and is "pauzed" you can view the map and units, but if I go to the same spot where I had the fps drop now it's gone, and I can scroll as smooth as hell and even with the same units in it.

[Rahtama]

no probs :dyn:

Thread @ rage3d about this, link. (http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33858854)