[MOD] Dark Eldar : Dire need of Community Help (see last few posts)

[Tyconius]

Hi everyone,

I'm proud to present our Relic Unit: The Warp Beast Predator, modelled by OLY and textured by the talented Dr. Grim.

Captured by the most skilled of beastmasters, these larger variants of warp beasts are used in the most deadliest of arena fights on Commoragh. Only the strongest and cunning beasts survive these battles.

After their time in the arena, the surviving beasts are brought to a Haemonculus, where they receive their "enhancements". These "enhancements" have a dual purpose:

- They provide extra armour and allow for more powerful melee attacks. Only the weaker parts of the body are reinforced, so they beast won't lose its agility and speed (being two key assets to the dark eldars' art of war).
- At the same time, they augment combat endurance. When suffering from heavy wounds, combat drugs are injected into the brain via the headpiece. The beast will temporally ignore all damage done and inflame in a berzerker fury.

The pics:
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1153/wbbeautyshot01nodofjq4.th.jpg (http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbbeautyshot01nodofjq4.jpg)

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2881/warpbeastturnaround3ug3.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warpbeastturnaround3ug3.jpg)

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2705/warpbeastturnaround2qf6.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warpbeastturnaround2qf6.jpg)

Mod related news: We are still looking for a good coder with knowledge of the AE and the OE. AE coding is mostly done, it only requires DC transfer and some extra abilities. OE still offers lot’s of fun ;)
If you are interested in helping us out, send me a pm via the relic forums.

[Tyconius]

Coder found (thx Sasquatch)

The forums are back up again, expect some new ingame footage soon.

[theBlind]

Oooohh! Can't wait for my fix of half-clad eldar females :D

No, seriously, good to see your mod is still alive and kicking

[thudmeizer]

Glad things are moving along.. DE was for the longest time back early this year non-existent.. so glad like most DoW/WA mods are moving along..

[Tain]

Awesome! I am glad to see some progress, i feared this mod had died. I am really looking forward to it.

[geodav]

yep i need more targets for my shurikans :) no really glad to see your moving forward

[Soul Reaper]

Im Glad too see our Eldar cousins ready for a fight...

[aco]

Good, i hope your team work faster and faster, i will see it on the battlefield :twisted:

[Tyconius]

Thx guys. The forums have been reset, so those who signed up after the end of August will have to register again.

If anyone is interested, we are still looking for a good texturer...

[Tyconius]

We have some dark eldar updates. First of all, our dark eldar Warrior. It is not textured yet, we are currently looking for another texturer.

http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/2023/dewarrior8vx.jpg




Our wyches

http://img496.imageshack.us/my.php?image=relic000336fr.jpg

http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=relic000265iy.jpg



The Haemonculus, which is animated

http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=relic000311td.jpg


Thx to Sasquatch, we near to testing our first build. Expect more updates soon.

Edit: Can this thread can placed in the mods in progress forum? Thx.

[kindred ravens]

the look right but seem quite empty ( as if they are just toys rather than servants of ur empire)

[Fivixx]

Well, keep working hard! :Pirate:

[hiddensmoke]

looks good but seem to be missing flavor other troops kinda like toys like raven said

[CrossOrion]

It'll probably look better with textures.

[thudmeizer]

Gawd damn love the INTERFACE ! ! Very nice! Superb work! You guys should be pulling some amazing stuff out over the next month or two with the new talent inbound!

[Tyconius]

Yup everyone is working hard. The warrior is looking a bit goofy atm because it isn't textured yet. Other then that, we the Reaver Jetbike modelled and the Talos, Incubi and Slaves are near completion.

[CrossOrion]

Gawd damn love the INTERFACE ! ! Agreed. 5 stars for the interface.

[Blackfang]

lol not to mention that warrior isnt animated either lol so he will look like a toy, silly peeps :P!

[verybad]

Model looks pretty good, but the gun looks VERY high poly for an RTS weapon.

[hiddensmoke]

interface is extremely good i agree, the dark eldar guns aren't smooth like the lasgun it needs many poly's to look right

[thudmeizer]

Most of the DoW/WA faction mods coming out have high enough polys + cost of PC Hardware is criminally cheap - just built a mid-to-high end system + high end 19" LCD w/ wireless mouse/keyboard for $1618 w/15% Canadian Taxes! Amazing! You guys never had it soo good.. I remember back in the day (grouch walking with cane) when high end machines were $5000 and that was the price of just looking at the darn thang! :D

[Tyconius]

Due to our texturer being unable to help us out atm, we are looking for skilled texturers who can help us out in our project. We currently have a fair number of units modelled, but not texturer to skin them. Even if you can only do one unit at the moment, any help would be welcome. If you are interested and have some spare time, please contact me via PM.

Thank you.

[thudmeizer]

Even with the chaps I sent one of them is NOT a texturer? Hmmm..

[Archmagi]

Do you have a current texturer working for you? And if you do please let me know I have some questions.

[Tyconius]

Send your questions in a Private Message to me...

[Tyconius]

The new haemonculus skin, enjoy...

http://users.pandora.be/Airforcer/Models/haemonculus.JPG

[Fivixx]

wow!! now with silicone

[Finaldeath]

Hold on, why isn't this in Mods in Progress? ;)

Moving..

[TheWookiee]

That's a very nice model you've got there, keep up the good work!

[Romanov77]

Looks so evil!!!

Good job!!

[p0seidon]

scary shit...

[Hands_of_Fate]

She's one ugly... Whatever she is.

Wicked job Dark Eldar team. Keep it up people.

[Tyconius]

Some updates:

- Animated and textured warrior (3 video's):

http://users.skynet.be/fa822863/index/Warrior/de_warrior1.avi
http://users.skynet.be/fa822863/index/Warrior/de_warrior2.avi
http://users.skynet.be/fa822863/index/Warrior/de_warrior3.avi


- We are currently in betaphase, testing out our techtree. We've managed to clear out all the bugs, but we could use some good BALANCE testers. If you're interested in doing some balance testing for use, please register at our website ( http://www.xv15mods.com/darkeldar ) and contact Tyco via PM. We are only interested in people who can help us establishing a solid balanced race, those who are merely interested in playing it before it get's released will be excluded from the beta. It helps when you've tested for other mods too.

[thudmeizer]

:omg: Oh baby! Slice me.. Dice me.. Server me for din-din tonight!

[Blackfang]

lol he's not right tho, look closely at his feet lol they deform too much at the ankles and at the toes, gotta change that lol, my bad!

[the-tempest]

It doesn't show up for me, but I can imagine the coolness, and it looks good.

[Romanov77]

Looks wonderful...WA has really a bright future with all these mods!!

[Finaldeath]

Nice looking animations :) I'll cirtainly make sure it makes the monthly relic mod newsletter. :)

[potemkis]

Looked good, though all I could see was green. It was kind of dark.

[Tiresias]

great work good luck with the rest of the mod

[Typhoon GX]

This is awsome work, guys. Great job!

[geodav]

quick question is the jetbike done yet !! btw nice anims

[ThetaOrion]

Okay, this is looking as nice as the screenies for CLR's Necron Mod was looking. The Necron Mod had the light show that we all love so much, but in this mod unlike the Necron Mod, the Dark Eldar aren't turtles but ninjas.

I hope that some of these mod makers will actually take their mods to the final product, instead of a lot of the mods being vaporware.

This Dark Eldar Mod is a new mod for me to get my hopes up. Looking good so far -- keep my fingers crossed that they keep going.

[Tyconius]

@Geodav: The Jetbike is currently being textured ;-)

[geodav]

great to here, hope we get to play it soon :)

[mlai]

Do DE get an uber?

[Blackfang]

yes

[Ruzdreg]

Talos?

I really don't know anything about the Dark Eldar.

[Tyconius]

No the Talos is more like a dreadnought. The uber is a modified version of the Warp Beast.

[potemkis]

The uber is a modified version of the Warp Beast

Ouch! Nasty!!

[Blackfang]

LOL you just wait til u see it. It's gonna be nasty!

[Whut]

im so glad this mod is making progress! and good progress too, well done and keep it up! :p
ever since i started playing dow ive wished there was dark eldar to play (i played them in table top), i hope you make them as evil as evil can be, good luck.

[ThetaOrion]

Anything playable or Alpha that we can load up and see in motion for ourselves?

I liked the looks of this one.

[potemkis]

This mod is gonna be great! Teach those blasted Eldar a lesson!

[Blackfang]

Hey people! just to let you all know we're still alive and kicking and getting things ready, so here's a little update pic for you. Maybe someone can guess what those units on the left of the pic are, stealthed! ;) Check out that Archon Lord ;)

Blackfang
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1970/relic00042ma4.jpg

[King_Tiger]

Wyches? :agree: and yeah, that Archon Lord looks pretty sweet!

[fuggles]

hehe... ladies who just had to go, right there, right then. Seconds before there wasn't even a puddle there...

This looks awesome! Those models and textures are just beautiful. Literally it was today I was wondering what had happened to this mod. Any more Eldark (so should have been) will always be welcome.

[Blackfang]

nope the stealthed units are not wyches, keep guessing!

[King_Tiger]

Ooooo, they could be Mandrakes? :giggler:

[Blackfang]

got it! ;) yes indeed they are the mandrakes, look here for more updates over the next few days!

[Tech Wing]

Very nice guys. Keep up the good work.

And leave no elder that doesn't follow alive...:flamer:

[compiler]

This is all looking very good !
Looking forward to play this mod.

[Uncle Benny]

Wow! L-R I see Mandrakes, Warriors, Incubus, Haemonculus, and Archon.
Wicked lineup!
Are those final textures?
What's the word on the Talos? :evil:
Bloody nice work, kudos to the team! :salute:

[Demonhorde]

i like the models but the dar keldar HUD looks crappy...

[Tain]

Its great to see this mod alive and well. Awesome work DE guys.

[thudmeizer]

That Interface = THE SWEEEEEEEETTT !

Oh.. and the units look pure BI*CH'NZZZZZZZZZ!

All Looks Much too cool!

[Woolly]

Those two units shown in the front what kind of uints are they? Is it an incubi? Btw super good work! Those models almost make me wish to have DE as a race in DOW (I do not becouse I find almost all DE units in TT look bad).

[scope2006]

Holy Sh... Emperor!

You guys over at the DE mod have made excellent progress since i last checked a few weeks ago!

The interface looks way better than the early alpha one you had..

[EDIT : Yes im stupid its the same one lol! this one looked more polished to me for some reason.. probably cause the screenshot was higher res.. somebody slap me! ]

Anyways.. when are the forums coming back? I saw the site when it was hacked by that bastard turkish militant.. if he wanted to make some type of political statement against the US then why hack a game mod website which has no relevance? why not an america goverment website where everyone involved will see it? why not leave those who have nothing to do with it out of it? - sigh.. perhaps he was just some script kiddy..

Anyway, hope to see the forums back up soon, its looking great!

[Randy]

Very nice! Lots to look forward to round here.

[the-tempest]

Yeah, Scope, I saw the same thing. Looking forward to having the forums back. I really had a laugh at that Turkish hacker's message. So very lame...

Nothing lame about your pic there though. I can't wait to see what else you have in store!

[Brujah]

Hmm.. are those Mandrakes topless? Or am I just seeing things that aren't there? I'm sure I see boobies. :naughty:

[Blackfang]

LMAO no those mandrakes are not topless lol, although for the pervs among you if you angle the camera right you can see down her top (not sure why you'd want to its only a 3d model lol). The best thing about doing this mod is that we can look at the tabletop miniatures and say quite frankly they sucked, so we get to revamp in quite a way that makes them cool again :D i'm happy with it, wait til you see the scourges and hellions ;) they is the bees knees man!

[Tyconius]

The interface looks way better than the early alpha one you had..


Lol. I think it's the same interface.

[ThrowN]

Amazing work!

But I'd prefer to see them moving ;)

[The Prophet]

Looks great, but is the Archon animated, he/she/it looks very stiff?

[thudmeizer]

Lol. I think it's the same interface.Goes to show you how long its been since I worked on the current build integrating AI. :D But hot damn guys - I want to be torn to oblivion by those guys ANY DAY! :omg: :omg:

[Cerberus_89]

Nice work guys

Does any body know how long it will take for the Dark eldar forum to be restored?

[--eFTy-->]

But hot damn guys - I want to be torn to oblivion by those guys ANY DAY!
Looks like Thudo might be into S&M...

Great to see you guys are not dead! Lovely stuff.

[geodav]

can't wait to put them head to head against the craftworld eldar mod hummmm!


been watching for along time now :)

[Richdog]

Simply fantastic, you guys deserve a gazillion beers bought for you. :D

[Tyconius]

The DE forums ought to be restored in about 2 weeks. For now, we will post updates in this thread.

[Blackfang]

yeah they all have animations, but they're only the basics for most of them, seeing as i'm not a very good animator lol i only give them the basics to get by with ingame. Until we find a hard core amazing animator to give them truly sickly animations that befit the dark eldar then this is how they shall stay :( although with the amazing work that catwell produces i'm sure finding an animator to do that wont be too hard!

Well i have a few more updates and wip for you, please excuse the untextured splinter cannon i seem to have misplaced the texture for it lol!

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1929/relic00049cc6.jpg

and this one is the warrior sybarite,

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2944/relic00048ay8.jpg

[the-tempest]

Looks good! How's army painter going? Voiceovers? Buildings? All that other fun stuff ;) And any ETA on the forums being back up?

[Blackfang]

army painter is a big issue at the moment, we've got no one that can do it, i'm pretty sure voice overs have been done, however i dont have them and they arent ingame yet although i remember hearing testers. Couple of weeks before forums back up i reckon, not sure about that!

[thudmeizer]

Would recommend try your best with custom animations but thankfully the default one will work fine for now. Custom stuff can come later..

As for AP - yeaaa I'm kinda shocked how challenging it is finding someone to do layers and alpha channels for the AP. I mean.. its hard enough to texture models but AP'ing then seems to be in demand by the teams.

[Blackfang]

Last update for a while from me whilst i move house lol, again. This is the hellion, we thought the gw minis looked a tad rubbish so we gave him a bit of a lift, personally i think he looks much better, think green goblin but with more armour and insanely intent on ripping your heart out and disemboweling you.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6448/relic00053ip1.jpg

[KRMZ]

@Blackfang: Very, very, very excellent work. I was a bit scared months ago that you could have big issues to finish your mod. But so far, it seems that you are in position to make progress. I am happy about that.

And for AP matters, the AS mod will be more than happy to help you on this if you need advices to implement WTPs from your current textures. We had the same types of issues before...

[Uncle Benny]

Umm, if all you need is for someone to take a finished RSH and make TC layers, that's no problem for me. I'm really stretched for time lately, but this honestly doesn't take me hardly any time at all.
I just feel that I may be misunderstanding what you need, since this seems really simple to me... :Puppy:
PLEASE let me know if I can help, as I have become obsessed with the DE, thanks to Blackfang & Co's insidious quality... :D

[EDIT] Okay, I get the Hellion in the foreground, and Incubi & Scourges in the background, but what's the unit on the far right? Doesn't look like the Warrior, and can't tell...

[AshaD]

I think its the haemonculus.I'm not sure.

[Blackfang]

Unit on the far right is the warrior, i think there's the sybarite in that unit too not sure though. The models are done by a chap called catwell and he textured them too, I just had to make sure they got from 3dsmax into the game. Although getting animations and such to fit is quite tricky lol however they only have basic animations at the moment but i'm slowly filling them out as I go.

[VenerableDread]

Don't like the helmets on the Scourges. No offence but that so needs changing.

[Blackfang]

lol tough :P we like 'em and they aint changing :P

[the-tempest]

lol tough :P we like 'em and they aint changing :P

Owned! For 15 gold!

So all these people have animations (at least basic ones), does that mean that the next step would be towards creating buildings? I'd love to see what those are going to look like!

[Blackfang]

Although having said that the scourges and warriors both have 2 different heads it's just i haven't got round to doing it yet lol, so you may like the other head better.

[Tyconius]

So all these people have animations (at least basic ones), does that mean that the next step would be towards creating buildings? I'd love to see what those are going to look like!


Yep. Buildings is the next step. We had a topic about it on the Dark Eldar Mod forums in which some members provided some nice concept art. Keep an eye on it when the forums are back up (approx. 2 weeks).

[King_Malekith]

awww 2 weeks!

if you need me i have signed up to the forums but i can play test, map and give DE advice to you guys and no credit needed. im just a DE player who wants to help. :D

[Palii]

Good work Dark Eldar team! It is very pleasing to see such massive updates. Especially now, since you made progress on all levels. The warriors and the warrior sybarite are great, they feel really evil and merciless. The scourges are good too, except for their yellow beaks...that is too birdy, a recolour would be enough. The hellion is very different to GW's design :( The Incubi are perfect, even with an Incubi miniature next to the screen ;) The archon is crazy-good, despite that his design unknown to me, he fits the Dark Eldar in every way. Congratulations for your progress. Best wishes for the future.

[Blackfang]

The reason we changed the design of the lord and hellions was because we thought the gw miniatures could really do with an overall, and dawn of war allowed us to do just that, change their design to something a little more pleasing, the scourges will have random helmets soon enough as well, they have 2 helmet designs plus their sybarite.

[jon_the_d]

hey guys, great work. can I just suggest retitling your thread, as "check last post" doesn't really apply.....how about putting the thread numbers? or you could put them all as spoilers in the first post...just so all the pics are easier to locate! :)

[scope2006]

Glad to see the forums are back, and some more nice screenies since my last post, keep up the good work :)

[King_Malekith]

forums, where?

[geodav]

don't bother down again, just wait here till their back up :(

[Uncle Benny]

Blackfang, I never saw or heard anything from you, did you still need help with army painter? Please let me know if I can help out in any way.

[FleshHammer]

Can this MOD be downloaded yet?

[geodav]

no its only for testers atm, of which i'm not :(

[Blackfang]

actually no currently the only version with those units in i have, i've yet to be able to pass anything on to tyco due to insufficient net access im afraid

[Tyconius]

@davisbe: Extra help concerning the AP is always appreciated. I'll contact you as soon as I discuss the matter with Blackfang.

[Uncle Benny]

Tyconius, I got ahold of Blackfang via PM, had some lame excuse about not having 'net access... :p
Anyways, I'm available whenever RHS's start flowing my way (preferably with WHE/WHM's!). My email is available under my profile, and I'm on here every freakin' day. I'm lame, but proud of it... :D

[Tyconius]

As promised, here is a wip version of our Relic Unit:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2458/warpb2gi0.jpg

["moo"]

looks like an oversized warp beast.

[Worsle]

That is what it is, and nice to see you sight is back up. Keep up the good work, one of the many mods I am really looking forward to.

[Shuma]

Ah, I remember the Concept art of the Beat, it looked good.

[King_Malekith]

how awesome, let me no if you need me im signed up on the new site so there we go!

[xquizit]

I've been playing DE table top for years, and DoW for just about a year now, this mod has me so excited I just registered on these lovely forums and on the DE mod website.

Tyco, Blackfang and Team keep up the great work fellas!

[luigi65]

i found the information about the Dark Harlequins page and i was wondering if you are planning to add Dark Harlequins as the 2nd side of dark eldar mod or you could add units to the dark eldar from the Dark Harlequins, here is the site for more information and the models as well


http://agisn.de/html/dark_harlequins.html

[Shuma]

They are Conversions, at least i hope so.

[Tyconius]

They are indeed conversions. The concept of Dark Harlequins is pure fanbased, not real GW canon.

[Zzarchov]

While that particular story is fan

Harlies work with Craftworld, Exodite, Pirate and Dark Eldar. The only Eldar they don't work with are Crone World (chaos) eldar.

So throwing Harlies as a DE choice would make perfect sense from a fluff perspective.

[Dr. Awesome]

I have a suggestion for this mod. Have grotesques do massive damage but very little armour penetration, but give the haemoculus an ability called "misfortune" which weakens all nearby enemy armour, making them an effective pair.

[Arsonide]

Hey, a few suggestions on my part - I always thought of the Dark Eldar as a harrassing race, they are insanely fast but physically weak. They really have no interest in attacking a fortified base - they are safe from everybody but Slaanesh in their city between planes of existence. The only reason they come out of it is to take prisoners to torture, in torturing them they expose their souls to Slaanesh, who drinks the souls slowly, and since Slaanesh is busy with the prisoners, it doesn't bother the Dark Eldar.

So most likely if given a choice, the Dark Eldar are going to warp in on a lightly defended outpost rather than a Space Marine base, thought they would probably still fight if not given a choice. That brings me to my suggestions - they should probably have some sort of bonus for taking out listening posts and decapping enemy requisition points. That would make them a good harrassing race. I was thinking they get less requisition on a point to point basis, but they get some sort of "pillaging bonus", that is, they get requisition for taking out enemy buildings, and they get moreso for taking out listening posts. It sounds kind of fluffy, that's why they don't get requisition quickly, but it'd be cool. In team games they are going to annoy the heck out of everybody, like pirates should, and in 1v1 games the enemy is going to do what they would probably do - heavily defend their outposts away from their main base...as they know that's where the pirates will strike.

That's my main point, but I had a few other ideas...with the introduction of Dark Crusade we have witnessed a mobile HQ - the Monolith. Dark Eldar probably wouldn't build bases, they have no need to hold land. Again - they have Commorragh, which is inside the Webway and out of harms way. They just need to warp in, take prisoners, and warp out. That said - this is the same reason that the developers are having a hard time doing the Tyranids, who also have no reason to build bases. However I agree that there needs to be a place to build things. They need a place to put the slaves they gather so they are in one spot when they warp back, so I think the main building should be a "Slave Caravan" of some sort. All of the Dark Eldar warp into the slave hunt on the caravan, which explains the phenomena of how it can "build". It would probably be lightly armed, as it's just a transport vessel, but be mobile. Far more mobile than a monolith but still nowhere near a jetbike. It's mobility IS the Dark Eldar's greatest defense, the enemy will have to hunt it down with scouts, unlike stationary bases. It will probably have to travel with escorts though.

Lastly - enemy workers should be enslavable, simply because. If you successfully enslave them, and bring them to the caravan, you get a requisition bonus as well...just because that's what Dark Eldar are supposed to do. That'll make those gretchins scared to leave their camps. Mwahaha. Hrm, enslaved by the orks or enslaved by the Dark Eldar, which would be better? I'd probably pick the orks, atleast they'd kill you quickly.

I've been poking around with the lua scripts, do you guys need any help in that department? I have a bit of coding experience...so if you do just let me know. I can't wait to see you guys succeed with this.

[Lord_Canis]

I'm available to do some beta testing for you guys. I have nothing else going on at this time.

[Liger]

I'm also available if you need testers. I have to say the models look really amazing, but I'm very interested to see how they function as a race.

[Nekekami]

Glad to see this is back alive. For awhile there I thought we had lost you guys, but it seems like you've been keeping quiet while plodding along. Really great work.

[Tyconius]

Currently I am getting the mod ready for DC modding. Alas, life itself takes a lot of mytime, so you guys will have to be patient.

[Abokasee]

Ive had A look at the mod look brilliant (can't wait till realse :baloons: ) but whos the builder unit :| probally be slaves or something like that :devil:

[the-tempest]

Last I saw, yeah, it was slaves with a possible slaver leader unit you could build that would enhance their morale+combat.

[Tyconius]

That has been changed. The idea was essentially good, but an ability was bugged and the design of mutilated slaves fitted more for grotesques. The Haemonculus now fulfills the role as builder unit. Like the Enginseer Techpriest, it will perform quite well in battle too.

[DemoLegion]

Yeah i can't wait too !
Hey Tyco where in Belgium do you live ?

[Lord_Canis]

That is not a bad idea, really.

[Tyconius]

@DemoLegian: Roughly 20km's to the west of Brussels

[DemoLegion]

Tyco > Oh ok that's not so far :3dcool:
Anyway it's nice to know i'm not the only Belgian around these forums :yippee:

[Tyconius]

Little update, check the first post....

[thudmeizer]

Awesome WarpBeast Predator!!!!!!!!!! Glad all else is moving forward.. Understand ya need some OE coding to be done. Hope someone can quickly step forward and work with you chaps for the 2-3 weeks needed.

[the-tempest]

Yeah, that warp beast looks really good! I remember you had a bunch of ingame units from a month or so ago, so are you pretty much done everything on the units side?

[Dr GRiM]

Hey, thx for the positive feedback everybody. I'd like to take a moment to thank everyone involved. I know this is a bit unconventional and it might not be the best place to do it. Again, sorry if it bothers anybody.

This unit gave me a very hard time for a few reasons, but I had a few friends who helped me with advices, critics, bashing, and permissive spamming on their hard drives so we could discuss what work and what did not (don't ask about what didn't). I must have reworked the unit 3 times or more, and the belly armor section took forever as I wanted something "cool". I just wanted to give the Dark Eldar fans something they could like. Sorry again if some of you think I drifted off fluff texture-wise and for some changes in the model's geometry. All of this happened thx to the following persons:

Triceron: For bashing where it hurt the most and for helping me with awesome suggestions. Although you suck and wish you eat some of .....just kidding. Tool :P

Goldo_o: For some advices that helped when i needed them.

Tyconius: For being patient. Really.

Daniel "Chewie" Urbaez: For providing live high res surgery pictures as references. For making me puke a few as well. For being supportive.

That's it, thx a lot and hope you guys will like the next DE model I'll be working on.

Bye!

[compiler]

Excellent work on this Beast !
It realy shines evilness.
Bravo !

[King_Malekith]

OMG! need i say more, im gonna b first to download this on release! i just love DE (be it eldar or elfs :P ) and if i cant play em TT properly ill try bloody hard on the computer ;)

[Jinxter78]

Man, that is nice! How big is it?

[fuggles]

My gosh that's amazing! Seriously the model and texturers are just so crisp and beautiful - really, really well done all.

[darkflame599]

whoa! i would love to see that beast jump onto bloodthister knocking it onto its back then take a chunk out of its neck (synckill)
it looks awesum really really great work guys

[Tyconius]

Yeah, that warp beast looks really good! I remember you had a bunch of ingame units from a month or so ago, so are you pretty much done everything on the units side?

Well, there has been no word from our OE coder (Blackfang) for some months. Which means there is a lot of material waiting to get ingame. Plus, it's always easier to put finished content in a build, then storing it somewhere else.

Right now, me and Dr. Grim are focussing on the buildings. And thanks to Thud, we have some extra people working on animations for certain units. Then again, I hope that their real life doesn't have to interfere as much, which was the case with some previous teammembers. Let's cross our fingers shall we...

[Necron12]

where can I download it

[Escushion]

Wow, another one I thought was dead. Excellent looking Warp Beast; his face is creepier than what I've seen on the models.

[Kirjava]

Am I the only one reminded of something out of Final Fantasy by the uber Warp Beast?

In all seriousness, though, mucho kudos to you guys for soldiering on.

[zenprime]

Looks kinda like FF's Behomoth monsters Kirjava.

[Michael Drago]

OK need some help here.
I play DE TT. Thats all I play because they are by far in my opinion the coolest race. I have not bothered with DoW because of the lack of DE. Am I understanding that DE are going to be introduced? Will they be playable or just NPC? What do I need to own to get them?
I stumbled on this forum looking for updates on DE for tt and am too affraid to hope I would be able to play them online.

[fuggles]

This is an unofficial mod team who are doing their best to bring the Dark Eldar army to DoW. It will be playable offline, and online if both players have it installed. You will need Dow, and either Winter Assault or Dark Crusade (triple pack just out btw, £18 in the UK) depending on which features they want to use. However DC is probably your best bet.

It's not finished yet, and we don't know when it will be. Looks very good though!

[Michael Drago]

Interesting. Ok I buy the game or games, is there a particular place I go to access all this cool stuff they are doing and play with you folks?
Appologies for derailing this thread, if you'd rather email me with info thats fine mickmail2112-vids@yahoo.com, and I'm sure I will find more info as read the forum and get the game.

[Divinatus]

Well, the game comes with its online material, and you'll probably have to own ATLEAST vanilla and WA for this to work. But if you'd only play it for DE, it'd be best to wait for the mod to come out.

There are many other mods out there already, so maybe you might try to broaden your horizon, hm?

[Michael Drago]

YUes, Actually I am wanting to do just that. DE was what inpired mew to get try the game, now I wanna play ORcs and some others too!
Where do I download the mods that are out?

[King_Malekith]

www.dowfiles.com (http://www.dowfiles.com) is a good start

[oddthing]

yes it is, i play DE TT as well, and that beast looks hungry for ork flesh!

[detail]

Well. I must say while the Necrons have the coolest fluff Dark Eldar certainly fit my playing style more in the TT. Been watching the mod for a while and I must say it has come quite a way from when i first saw it. Looking forward to a release guys.

Keep up the good work. :Hail:

[Michael Drago]

Has anyone heard anything?

[Visitor13]

Try the official forums here (you'll have to register to read the posts):

http://www.xv15mods.com/darkeldar/

[|[TDR]|Myna]

there was an update from them just abit before christmas if Im not mistaken.

[detail]

Try the official forums here (you'll have to register to read the posts):

http://www.xv15mods.com/darkeldar/
Ok so yeah i have tried registering on their forums a number of times but i am unable to because they never email me the confirmation email. lamezor :S

[Visitor13]

^ Really? Well, I can't help you here, I'm not a member of the forums either.

[Tyconius]

Have patience young padewan...

[UnDirector]

The more the marrier and to tell you the truth I, me and my self are also waiting for the Dark Eldar mod updates. :P

[Blackfang]

Well i guess this is a good a place as any to announce this. Sorry Tyco for being away so long, but i've come back now for good. Had a lot of stuff to sort out with family issues that really not need to be mentioned, but im back on the slow and steady now and roaring to go, let me know where you need me.

For those who dont know me, im sure thudo can elaborate.

[Gabriel Angelos]

hoa! that warp beast sure looks nasty! and even more for a Ubr unit.

this mod its looking better each time.

by the way Dr.Grim is from Latin America isnt?

[kindred56]

dude excellent mod!ive been using dark eldar on table top for almost a year now and ive been constantly checking for a new expansion or a mod with darkeldar in and finally ive found one.cant wait till it comes out will download as soon as its released if possible.good luck on all work needed and keep up the good work.

[Uncle Benny]

Haven't seen nor heard nary a word for a while, but I'm still idling away here... ;)
I only have the 0.20 build, so what I have to work is "meh", but hopefully this piques some interest:
Original RSH's:
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1291/dewych1mj3.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dewych1mj3.jpg)http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5734/dehaemonculus1do3.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dehaemonculus1do3.jpg)http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2818/detalos1dl6.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detalos1dl6.jpg)

Teamcoloured WTP's:
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1460/dewych2fg8.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dewych2fg8.jpg)http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5568/dewych3ir9.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dewych3ir9.jpg)http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4973/dehaemonculus2jx3.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dehaemonculus2jx3.jpg)http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4636/dehaemonculus3xe6.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dehaemonculus3xe6.jpg)http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4669/detalos2dk3.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detalos2dk3.jpg)


The more RSH's I have, the more WTP's I can finish, if you still want me to... :D

[fuggles]

Looking very nice Davisbe, consider my interest thoroughly piqued!

[UnDirector]

I haven't read though the whole forum, but are those your models Davisbe? If yes, they look pretty sweet, though you could work around the "poligonal" areas a bit more. :P

And now, the second question: you are just doing them for fun, although you haven't heard from the mod makers? If yes, that's also quite a meritorious thing.

[thudmeizer]

Excellent work guys.. now that BF has rejoined your bunch 2-3 weeks ago things should start hoping again! Keep the progress going -- the community needs DARK ELDAR!!

[Uncle Benny]

@UnDirector: No, those are most definitely not my models! I'm not for sure who exactly did the models or the textures, I just made them team-colourable (and added optional specular maps, for extra flair!).
Also, keep in mind that those are from an earlier internal release, and are certainly out-of-date! If you look back earlier in this thread, you will find much better textures, and several more units.

I had spoken with Tyconius, and had offered to make WTP's for the DE units, and was waiting on more "raw material", so this is hopefully to show that I'm serious, and keep the fire burning.

To clarify: I'm not on the mod team, I'm just doing what I can to help this monster get released! :awesome:

[UnDirector]

To clarify: I'm not on the mod team, I'm just doing what I can to help this monster get released! :awesome:

So you are definitely worth your weight in gold, helping out other mods. :P Emperor's Speed Devisbe :P

[geodav]

well if i could log into their forum i might be able to see if they still want my help!

[Tyconius]

Nice to see those davisbe :) Due to telephone and internet problems my online time has been dramatically reduced. I hope Blackfang can help you out with getting you the other models.

[UnDirector]

that was like an update! yay!

[Uncle Benny]

Due to telephone and internet problems my online time has been dramatically reduced.

actually no currently the only version with those units in i have, i've yet to be able to pass anything on to tyco due to insufficient net access im afraidIs there a freakin' conspiracy against the DE mod team?
J/K :D Sorry to hear that, it's like a fate worse than death! Seriously, good luck to you. Just let me know when you have something for me, and I'll go to town.

Cheers!

[monkeys of evil]

I WANT MY DARK ELDAR NOW

[fuggles]

Crikey...so you're dayjob is either:
bank robber
motivational speaker

unless of course you are frustrated at the lack of progress that your own dark eldar mod is making.

Why can't people say "please" or look for the correct thread anymore?

*Fuggles wanders off to despair about the youth of today and feel old*

[Uncle Benny]

Soooo, why didn't you just look for the DE mod thread here, in this very forum? :-\

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=76611

You really need to use the Search function, and if you have a question about a mod, it is much wiser to post it under the mod's thread.

[thudmeizer]

Its a hell lot easier to enter any community for any modded PC game and just demand /ask for something then to stay in ONE or a few communities and work your way up the "modding ladder" and understand what PC game modding requires. Plus, young people these days demand "instant gratification" and have a warped sense of "entitlement" so they wish things be done faster and faster. Hard reality will set in pretty quick on them someday that the world can only move so fast.

Regardless, Tyco, BlackFang, and the rest of the team are doing their collective damnest to get the Dark Eldar done.

[Finaldeath]

Topics merged.

[Uncle Benny]

Plus, young people these days demand "instant gratification" and have a warped sense of "entitlement" so they wish things be done faster and faster. Hard reality will set in pretty quick on them someday that the world can only move so fast.
Ooh! Now tell us how you had to walk to school, grandpa! :D

[monkeys of evil]

so when is dark eldar comin out



TELL ME OR I EAT YOU:muffy:

[Exemplar]

so when is dark eldar comin out



TELL ME OR I EAT YOU:muffy:



Maybe you should ask a little more politely. Asking them in the largest font size possibly will not make it any faster (and its just annoying). You have to remember that modding is hard work and its usually done in ones' spare time.

[fuggles]

It saddens me that this has fallen out of the mods in progress section- it is still in progress...right?

[thudmeizer]

Tyco is busy it seems. There seems to be work going on (look at the official DE website for info). Tyco might make an annoucement that he needs someone with the same firey passion for everything DarkEldar to lead the project as he is too busy.

DoW Community - to whomever has some time and loves and knows everything that is Dark Eldar please step forward and we'll get you in contact with Tyco. There is ALOT of pre-done DE work long since complete but to see it to its logical end we need people in the community to conclude the project. I can get 3d people if need be to help out but Team Leads are the focus of every project. With a strong leader, all endeavours will falter. We need you!

[Uncle Benny]

The last build I saw had the Haemonculi, Wytches, & Talos (no anims), and I know that the Warriors, Archon, Scourges, etc had been done because Tyco posted the screenies. I was going to work out the teamcolours, but hadn't really heard anything since then.

[thudmeizer]

Thanks Davisbe.. I'm hoping to ensure DE gets going again. I finally contacted Tim (aka BlackFang) and he's getting married and has a company going so he can't mod. :( He was working with Tyco on DE for awhile but then silence for months. Now we need to move this project ahead.

[Dr GRiM]

Thud:

Last time Tyco and I chatted, we discussed buildings concept which I was doing. Due to RL obligation (doing paperwork to move to Canada) and other concerns I had to shift priorities. I still have the roughs (very small, done in the Skype drawing board to interact live with TYCO) but my mind is pretty clear on this.

The Warp Beast metal will be reworked so it will be available in a month or two after I am done with the art assets pending for the GK mod. I also have the DE jetbike eldar that needs to be improved, tweaked, unwrapped and painted. The WB is a given no matter what, the jetbike and such, we'll see, but i need a vehicle for my portfolio but it's down the queue list.

I can work the building concepts in a month or two. Most of the ideas are down and set, so it's more like putting them in order. I would have no problem handing them over to Tyco or you shall you need them along with the Warp Beast.

Let me know. Cyas.

[thudmeizer]

Sounds like a plan but other work needs to continue to ensure fluidity with mod workflow. Thats excellent what yer doing and damn fine committment even with your RL stuff! Btw, where in Canada? ;)

[Dr GRiM]

Well, once I am done with the IL (I think you saw the pics) I should be doing 1 or 2 more units prior to IDH release, after that, I should be available I think.

In Canada: Wherever a job takes me.

[thudmeizer]

Drop by Toronto.. its Canada's largest (and coolest) city. Vancouver is sooooooo overrated and it rains too much there. :D

[Jianaran]

For this mod, i think that I can do some UVUnwrapping for you. I have completed all the tutorials without too much trouble, and would love to try on a real model. Please PM me if there are openings for UV Unwrappers.

[iamaplayer]

I'm just stopping by to say i wish this mod the best, it looks very promising, oh and thank you Thud bro, it's good to know that someone is taking care of boosting, helping or even resurrecting mods :D

[Tyconius]

Hey guys, thx for the support. Due to moving out, I've have (almost) no online time left. I'm working mainly on the road, so I have no direct PC access. This isn't very good, since I can't communicate via msn.

I think I'm finally in the stage, where I must accept that I must pass this on to someone better suited, and with more online time. Not to mention that I have been somewhat irritated over the years, by the fact that some people promise me stuff which will never get done, major setbacks and people leaving.

Blackfang had promised several times to set up the OE coding for the ingame models with Santos Tools, yet to this day nothing further has happened. I can't get into contact with him, and it's kind of hard to say yet in the several years this has occured quite oftenly that he disappeared for some time. Which meant waiting, waiting and more waiting since he had the code. He's a nice guy, yet not too dependable.

Also I lacked the art or coding abilities other people have. Frankly, I both admire and envy Compiler & Shingouki. Both being able to handle code & art and blend it into a fantastic result (from what I've seen), they've come so far since their first posts here on the forums. I hope they succeed, where I can't. Thumbs up! ;-)

So, if anyone is up for it, let me know via pm and I'll pass on everything I have. I'm still willing to do some lesser work, UI or some basic AE coding, yet the coordination and planning of the mod has become beyond my reach.

I also want to thank some people that helped during the past years: Thud (providing me with fresh blood and AI), Oly (who did most unit models), Alf (support & webhosting), CLR (basic code setup & animations), Blackfang (assistance & coding), Sasquatch (early code build), Shingouki (advice & assistance), Epoxy (early textures), Catwell (textures), Dr. Grim (advice & textures) and many more who have contributed, but whose names I forgot.

I still frequent these boards when I can, so it's not like you'll see me stop posting here.


Grts!

Tyco

[alf]

I'm sorry to hear that my friend.. Sounds like you have had setbacks that have plauged the Tau Mod too in the past. This is one of the most needed mods for DoW and should be finished.

check out the PM I sent you.. it might maket things better :)

[AshaD]

Whilst things look grim my friend you shouldn't give up. Too much work has been put into this to be wasted. It might take you a year to settle back into the community with regular internet access and even longer to get the staff but surely its not worth wastin a year + on something that never gets finished. Some mods are beginning to draw to a close and i'm sure once some are complete there will be more help at hand. Please don't give up buddy.

[Angel K]

Indeed. I'm sure that there are plenty of skilled people here who would be willing to help you out. There might even be a team leader out there able to help take the load off of your shoulders until you're ready to take it back.

[IcyPenguin]

Drop by Toronto.. its Canada's largest (and coolest) city. Vancouver is sooooooo overrated and it rains too much there.

:Skull:

I'm going to eat you. :jester:

Anyway, that sucks, Tyconius. I hope things can work out for ya. :salute:

[thudmeizer]

The community should rally around Dark Eldar as it is one of the MAIN War40k "Pillar Factions" to complete since Relic/THQ will very likely never make their own for any future incarnation of a possible DoW sequal.

We don't have to wait a year for DE if we rally to assist you.

As mentioned, I contacted BlackFang 2 days ago and found he is too busy. I do wish he would have contacted me months ago but 2 days ago I accidentally saw him on MSN and wham.. we got an update. Ughhhh... Modding for free is never easy to progress in.

We'll try to regroup the DE team especially its original members and start moving DE forward. I just wish we had heard of the warning signs earlier so we could have not waited 3-4 months longer. Regardless.. lets re-org the project due to its importance.

[geodav]

sorry to hear the sad news Tyco, i was realy looking forward to your mod, hope someone has the time to pick it up

[AshaD]

I agree with thud. Someone of authority in this forum should make a post declaring the need for the community to unite to complete this mod. If people have enough respect for the hard work put in to this i'm sure there will soon be help on the horizon.

I'll be first to admit I haven't followed this mod closely, but even if I have to ask everyone on the forum to join and help out so be it.

[Tain]

Amen to that. This is a great mod, with great ideas and great artwork. It would be an absolute shame to let it sink into obscurity.

[stryer]

I guess the first thing to descide is who is going to being charge of completing the art resources. Thats what ive done with splinterfleetMOD. That, and decide on a simple final troop list with a simple tech tree.

[alf]

Working that out with Tyco ATM.. awaiting his reply.. I'll let him give the official News

[gerberman]

As much as I would like to offer my services: I have none! However I wanted to show some support for the idea of the community banding together to complete not just this, but a few of the other mods who got so close before falling away.

[Tyconius]

ALF will take over my position as DE Mod Team Leader, as soon as I provide him with all the necessary assets and art. I hope to get this done by the beginning of next week.

Danimator was also so kind to offer his help too, so he and ALF got to make some arrangements first to see what Danimator can do to help the DE mod further.

So there you have, it's official now :)

[Angel K]

Awesome to hear! Major kudos to Alf for stepping up to the plate to take this on.

[thudmeizer]

I'll offer whatever staff I can. BlackFang has given over as much DE assets as he had but what about the other prominent DE staff members? Grim is working currently with DE stuff. Sasquatch and Epoxy are they around? CLR did a bang up job with the DE interface and gather he is too busy. Regardless, I work closely with Alf so getting DE stuff done will NOT be a prob.

[alf]

I've already talked to Danimator (since he's working on the Tau Mods Kroot (and soon Vespids)) We're working out a game plan.

Once I get the TODO list from Tyco I'll do this right away:
-a new post in this forum so I can update the first post (like the Tau mod post in this forum)
-post a close to this thread and a link to the new one
-Update the DE website
-Let the public know of the Remaining Open items for the DE mod and start an open application process (i.e. someone from the community Volunteers.. I'll update the list with the volunteer assignment and their progress on the open item)

[AshaD]

Any help I can give you alf be it mapping, beta testing or voice acting don't hesitate to ask i'm not great in the 3rd option and i'm best at beta testing but like I said if you need ANY help at all.

[alf]

Anyone who would like to help with DE please contact me via PM with a list of what your Modding Talents are (strongest first) and I'll contact you once Tyco gets back to me with the list of open items.

[ThetaOrion]

Please, do like Shin is now doing with his Eldar stuff. He combined it all together so as to get something out sooner rather than later.

Please keep the Dark Eldar Race Mod manageable with a clearly defined tech tree and specific list of units.

Something small and compact released a month or two from now is better than something huge or something multiple race released five or ten years from now.

They debated and talked Thousand Sons for years and never released anything. Riker has regular incremental releases DoWXP, and he's still going strong and now has the biggest community.

There's something about an imminent release that focusses goals and focusses attention. It is no longer theory and discussion, but a reality that needs to be refined and supported and focussed on in even greater detail. A release seems to clear the clutter and bring a focus to these things.

That's why I was really excited when Shin said that he's combining his Eldar mods and focussing on a quicker release, rather than dragging them out for a couple more years to make two separate mods and more work and more delay and more unfinished features on a list.

That's also why I was happy when alf started emphasizing that he's only going to release two of the five or six Tau factions that he has on the table. Again, going for a release sooner than going for total completion. Focussing on a near release seems to focus attention. And, that's what we need now, as the DoW game is getting older and people are indeed fading away and going on to other stuff. Finish what you got and release. And, if you have a Thousand Sons type project that's going to take ten years to complete, try to find ways to scale it down to a manageable size and a single race mod that can hopefully be released in the next six months.

Anyway, please focus on getting something ready for release, sooner rather than years later. I see signs of that idea here as well, and that's a good thing. Sooner, rather than years later. I don't think this game has decades of life left in it any more, and if some of these mods aren't done before DoW2 comes out, they might not ever get done and then all that effort and time has been wasted unless you can somehow magically port it all directly to DoW2, which you can't rely upon being the case.

[alf]

My focus will be to Involve the community in helping finish DE ASAP
The progress will depend on the help and their availibility.
But I hope the Plans of the DE aren't over extravagant.. or they might require "slight" adjustments (with input from the community of course)

[thudmeizer]

Since alot of the DE assets are in the advanced stages I don't see this as being a problem. We can get what is needed for this project moving forward quickly.

[WiegrafFolles]

Go for broke! Looking forward to it!

[Uncle Benny]

Rock on, Alf! Many thanks for adding another big project to your already overflowing plate!
Hope you don't have too much trouble with the admin for the DE website :rofl:

[Tempe]

have p'med you.
hope we can help.

[Jianaran]

I have also PM'ed, maybe I can do some mapping and simple moddeling/modification to other models.

[alf]

Well I'm still waiting on Tyco.. he says he's almost ready to hand it over (still prepping files and list of open items)

[roospion]

Need any help?

[Gorb]

I PMed too, although I don't know how much use a coder will be.

I really want to see this mod finished!

[geodav]

if on the off chance that tyco lost my old DE jetbike let me know and i'll send it you, it ain't great but it would do the job for an RTS

[Tyconius]

Don't worry, I didn't lose it. I nearly finished getting all the art & sounds. I pm'ed Alf some hosting questions. Once the files are up, he can put them to good use.

[Tempe]

what models have been made so far. i can get my team onto making the icons and such.

[Rauros]

OMG I can't wait for this mod. Great work so far, keep it goin!

[alf]

Ok everyone..
DE site is back up http://darkEldar.xv15mods.com/
I'm still working with fixing errors in one Database table.. but it seems to work ok atm..
I'll contact Tyco later on today.

[thudmeizer]

Good to hear.. please keep the community posted as much as possible!

[alf]

Ok Everyone.. Update time.. I just got the files from Tyco...
I'll be starting a new thread soon and updating the forums.. Once I go over the list of TODO items.. I'll contact the ppl who already offered help and get them started on it..

Thanks Tyco for putting that up (and bearing with me while I was changing servers)

[thudmeizer]

Fantastic! Lets move this forward everyone!

[alf]

this thread is closed since I the mod leadership is changing hands.. the new thread is located here:
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?p=2336796#post2336796
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