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12th Jan 03, 4:30 PM
Okay, here's what the deal is. . . . When I re-built my computer last summer, I grabbed a 5400RPM 40GB hard drive I had picked up at a computer show, and did not go to the store like I should have to get a better hard drive.
Well, this Christmas I got several BestBuy gift cards, so I got a new hard drive. . It's a Western Digital 7200RPM 80GB hard drive.
Well, I used Norton Ghost to image the old hard drive, saving it to my slave hard drive. Then I switched out the 5400RPM drive for the new 7200RPM drive.
I used the diskette that came with it to format two partitions on the new hard drive. . . One 40GB and the second for the remaining space (around 38GB). I used Fat32, knowing that when I reimaged, the first partition would be converted to NTFS, but the second partition would still be Fat32.
I then restared using my Norton Ghost diskette and imaged the 40GB partition with the old hard drive image. After that, I tried to restart and my OS would not boot up. It had a real problem with the partition.
So I go back and reformat the new hard drive to a single 76+GB partition using Fat32. I take my image from my slave hard drive and put it on that single partition, and the computer starts up fine, BUUUUUT, it only thinks this 80GB hard drive is a 40GB hard drive.
What have I done wrong?
What can I do to get this new hard drive to be recognized as an 80GB hard drive. If that's not possible, why can't I boot from a partition if I have the 80GB hard drive recognized as a double partition - is there some WindowsXP setting that I'm missing?
Will partition magic or some other partition application help me out? Is it possible to run some sort of application that will look at my master hard drive and see that it is bigger than it actually is and allow me to either designate the unused/unrecognized space to a new partition or the single partition?
12th Jan 03, 4:33 PM
i think you partitioned 40 gig of it and didnt put a filesystem on the other 40. happened to me once on a 20gig drive
12th Jan 03, 5:07 PM
So how to fix the problem?
I can go back and put two partitions on the hard drive, but are there some WindowsXP settings I need to make in order to enable partitions?
12th Jan 03, 5:17 PM
i dont use/never have used xp. sorry
13th Jan 03, 4:38 AM
the old 40Gb still boots XP normally right?
set up Western Digital as primary-master drive (note the jumper cap setting on it, there is a difference between Single Master & Master w. slave present), set up the old 40Gb as slave drive.
boot up with your Norton Ghost diskette,
select : local disk - to disk - select source drive (old 40Gb), then select destination drive (80Gb WD) at this point ghost ask you what size you want to use for the destination drive, select the appropiate size, such as 40Gb, the remaining +/-35Gb will be left unpartioned by ghost (which you can later assign inside WinXP using Drive-manager)
note: when you are done, set the WD80 to single Master again, if you are going to remove the old 40Gb.
Hope this helps,
13th Jan 03, 8:02 AM
Yes, the new hard drive is working great. The access times are noticably shorter.
I'll try what you say, but in WindowsXP, how do I ask the OS to physically scan the hard drive to "learn" that it is bigger than it "thinks" it is?
13th Jan 03, 8:09 AM
once you dump the image file onto your new disk, it should register as 80Gb in winXP, i can`t think of a reason why XP detects it as a 40Gb drive, if Ghost sees the drive as 80Gb you shouldn`t have any problems in WinXP.
if not... then maybe, the problems lies with your motherboard, some boards cannot see beyond a certain amount of Gb, on some boards that limit is 40Gb, this can possibly me resolved by flashing the boards BIOS :argh: , or by using a so called Boot Manager for the drive in question (essentially a program installed on the disk itself which bypasses the BIOS system & and thus using the full capacity of the disk)
13th Jan 03, 2:32 PM
It is a relatively new MoBo, but I think I've figured out the problem.
I'm creating an image of the 40GB HD on an 80GB HD when what I need to do is make a clone, just like you descibe in your post.
According to a web site I found:
Ghost will add the added space to the single partition that came from the old HD. Hopefully, I won't have any trouble since it's an NTFS partition.
I don't necessarily see how a "Clone" is much different than putting an image on the hard drive from an image file, but apparently it is. Maybe Ghost does a couple of extra things when it clones that it doesn't do when it images.
14th Jan 03, 2:52 AM
as long as you have Ghost 2002> you shouldn`t have any problems with a NTFS file system.
14th Jan 03, 7:40 AM
Basically, Norton Ghost is not meant for imaging a hard disk partition, and copying it onto another HDD. The image contains a perfect partition image of a 40GB HDD.
Heres something that might help:
Open the Device Manager, and select your 80GB HDD
Select the Volumes tab, and click Populate.
I THINK you can format the unpartitioned space from there.
14th Jan 03, 8:22 AM
Norton Ghost is not meant for imaging a hard disk partition, and copying it onto another HDD. The image contains a perfect partition image of a 40GB HDD
Yeah, I found that out the hard way. Actually, I think it's better stated that the ".gho" file system that is part of Ghost is not meant to be used for copying one HD to another. The ".gho" files are there as a safeguard of data, so that you can make a system exactly the way it used to be prior to the last time the system was imaged in the event of disaster.
However, Ghost2003 does have a "clone" function. It will clone a smaller disc to a larger disc and take any excess space on the larger drive and distribute it equally over all the partitions from the old disc.
I reset my old HD as the master and my new HD as a slave, I then used Ghost2003 to "clone" the old HD to my new HD and it worked like a charm. I now have two Western Digital 80GB hard drives in my system.
Thanks for the help guys.
Madz, I think your suggestion would have been easier though. :/
14th Jan 03, 8:28 AM
Basically, Norton Ghost is not meant for imaging a hard disk partition, and copying it onto another HDD.
yes it is, partition copying/imaging is one of its basic functions. (at least.. the ones you get when making your DOS boot disk)
drive partitioning/formatting can be found in "Computer Management - Disk management", right click "my computer" icon - select "manage"
14th Jan 03, 3:51 PM
When I went from a 30 gig to a 80 gig I simply copied the entire 30 gig to the new one with windows explorer, sys'ed the 80 gig and off she went with no problems. But I'm using win98se so that might be why.
15th Jan 03, 5:03 AM
yes that`s why, you can`t do that with WinXP :(
15th Jan 03, 5:14 AM
Bugger..:( yet another reason for me not to upgrade to XP..
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