[Gen] The CC challenge

[MooFreaky]

Winners are in bold



Round I


Cannon Fodder vs The Great Void (Round 1. 3 wounds remaining)

Whats True vs Hive Mind (Round 1. 3 wounds remaining)

Miles Tag vs Dark 11 (Round 1. 3 wounds remaining)

Waterbizkit vs TreeBoy (Round 3. 1 wound remaining)

Random Person vs Popsumpot (Round 1. 2 wounds remaining)

Big_Al vs Zarathstrian (Round 2. 4 wounds remaining)

Brian General vs Dooks Dizzo (Round 2. 2 wounds remaining)

Commisar Antoni vs Murphy[Ork] (Round 1. 4 wounds remaining)

Psygunner vs Ap0k (Round 1. 3 wounds remaining)

General Nuke Em vs Sword_Monkey (Round 2. 2 wounds remaining)

Black Gobbo vs Brother Armand (Round 1. 2 wounds remaining)

Captain Plasma vs SvedishFish (Round 1. 3 wounds remaining)

Nareik123 vs TS_Ahriman (Round 1. 3 wounds remaining)

Slick Willy vs Eventhorizon (Round 1. 2 wounds remaining)

Terror Legion vs [Vertigo] (Round 1. 1 wound remaining)

Blaesa vs Brother Paladine (Round 5. 3 wounds remaining)



Round II

Brother Armand vs [Vertigo]

TS_Ahriman vs General Nuke Em

Zarathustrian vs Dark_11

Slick Willy vs Ap0k

HiveMind vs Popsumpot

Blaesa vs Dooks Dizzo

The Great Void vs Captain Plasma

Waterbizkit vs Commisar Antoni




Round III

Zarathustrian vs Brother Armand

TS_Ahriman vs The Great Void

Blaesa vs Popsumpot

Ap0k vs Commisar Antoni




Round IV


TS_Ahriman vs Ap0k

Zarathustrian vs Popsumpot




Round V

Ap0k vs Zarathustrian




Champion : Ap0k


The Roster
Ap0k - Chaos Sorcerer Deamon Prince (Slaanesh)
Big_Al - Ork Squiggoth
Black Gobbo - Chaos Deamon Prince (Slaanesh)
Blaesa - Great Harlequin
Brian General - Chaos Deamon Prince (Khorne)
Brother Armand - Dark Eldar Wych Archite
Brother Paladine- Space Marine Epistolary
Cannon Fodder - IG Rough Rider Veteran Sergeant
Captain Plasma - Inquisitor
Commisar Antoni- Keeper of Secrets
Dark_11 - Ork Warboss
Dooks Dizzo - Grey Knight Grand Master
Eventhorizon - Chaos Lord (Slaanesh)
General Nuke Em- Space Marine Techmarine
Hive Mind - Space Marine Tech Marine
Miles Tag - Space Wolf Wolf Guard
Murphy[Ork] - Ork Warboss
Nareik123 - Space Marine Techmarine
Popsumpot - Kroot Master Shaper
Psygunner - Space Marine Apistolary
Random Person - Space Marine Epistolary
Slick Willy - Daemon Prince (Khorne)
SvedishFish - Tyranid Hormagaunt
Sword_Monkey - Harlequin Solitaire
Terror Legion - IG Juniour Officer
The Great Void - Tyranid Carnifex
TreeBoy - Chaos Deamon Prince
TS_Ahriman - Chaos Sorcerer Lord (Nurgle)
[Vertigo] - Space Marine Devastator Marine
Waterbizkit - Sister of Battle Canoness
Whats_True - Space Wolf Wolf Lord
Zarathustrian - Tyranid Hive Tyrant


edit - I took the liberty of editing in the links, since I was able to just copy/paste them, rather than having you go through the hassle of linking yourself. Hope you don't mind. - Ap0k

[cfoley]

Why isn't it done by statistics? Because that makes some abilities unfair, or completely useless. Examples include Shadowfield, Combat Drugs, Rending...Poor show. Rending is rather easy to do with statistics. A better reason for no statistics is that there would be no point in playing if it was done by statistics, and that statistics only become accurate when things are done on a large scale - hardly appropriate for single combat.

Anyway, just to clear things up, can one enter a Hormagaunt or not?

[Dooks Dizzo]

I would like to submit the first entry!

Grey Knight Grand Master
Weapons and Wargear:
Terminator Armor
Master Crafted Nemesis Force Weapon (S6 force weapon)
Close Combat Weapon
Icon of the Just 4+ invul save
Sacred Incesense
Libram

[MooFreaky]

I've had a number of people request that the first round losers get to have a tree of their own and follow up.
Basically to discover who the best of the worst is... (all in good fun guys!)

So here it is.

First Round Losers Round II

Psygunner vs Eventhorizon

Nareik123 vs Murphy[Ork]

Brian General vs TreeBoy

TerrorLegion vs Black Gobbo

Random Person vs Whats_True

Sword_Monkey vs MilesTag

Big_Al vs SvedishFish

Brother Paladine vs CannonFodder




Round III

Whats_True vs Eventhorizon

Black Gobbo vs Brother Paladine

Brian General vs Big_Al

Murphy[Ork] vs MilesTag




Round IV

Brian General vs Murphy[Ork]

Whats_True vs Black Gobbo



Round V

Brian General vs Whats_True



Best of the First Round Losers : Brian General

[Dooks Dizzo]

I bet on my guy taking down any of them, especially the Wraithlord and the Carnifex. The HT may go faster and with Implant attack only needs to score 2 wounds, but 4+ invul can save the day.

[darkelf]

Since it's CC, can I enter a WHFB figure?

[MooFreaky]

Do I really need to answer that question?

I'll edit it into the rules in the first post, just so we are all clear

EDIT : The answer is NO!!
Just because I know someone will missunderstand or something...

[MooFreaky]

Just because I don't want this thread to get too derailed. Or to have the Mods get upset at people... remember what happened to people spamming in the Fluff sub-forum. They got banned and threads got locked.
So please keep this on topic...

[Waterbizkit]

Here's my entry, just for fun because I like Witch Hunters:

Canoness w/ Mantle of Ophella, Blessed Weapon, Inferno Pistol, Cloak of St. Aspira, Jump Pack, rosarious

Use the two faith points the canoness gets for The Passion, use once in each round of combat.

~Bizkit

[Invictus]

Epistolery:

Veil of Time
Might of Heroes
Artificer Armour
Terminator Honours
Bike
Master-Crafted Force Weapon
Iron Halo
Familiar
Frag Grenades
Thunder Hammer

Is this legal?

EDIT1 (15/3/06): Would have done this edit earlier, but was in hospital yesterday, so couldn't. Just for fun, would it be possible to do a re-match with Ap0k after the tournament is over?

EDIT2: You're a cheese-monger Ap0k! :p

[eventhorizon]

my entry-

Slaaneshi Lord Gimpmaster- 275 points (60 + 95 of Daemonic Gifts + 65 of Wargear + 30 on minor psychic powers from the Book of Slaanesh [come on Feel No Pain] + 15 on Veteran Skills)

Lord, Mark of Slaanesh, Steed of Slaanesh
Needle of Desire, Power Sword
Daemonic Strength, Resilience, Aura, Rune, Combat Drugs, 3xMinor Slaaneshi Power, Furious Charge

I'll trust you to know which combat drugs to take and which of the weapons to use.

[Waterbizkit]

Oh, I'm sure she'll get owned by every other entry there is, but like you said dooksy, it was for style. :p

Besides, I thought it'd be cool to use a unit with the faith points. Using them the way I intend for them to be used she'll get a +2 to her initiative for the first two rounds of combat and won't fail the test of faith required, which isn't too bad. She has a master-crafted power weapon, a +2 armour save, she should be charging (I think, according to the rules Moo put forth) because of her jump pack, and has the ability to shrug off the first "inst-death" attack she's dealt.

But hey, like I/you said, I wanted to go for something I doubt anyone else will use, even if she will get shredded. :p

~Bizkit

[MooFreaky]

@ Psygunner. Yes it is. But Frags and Vortex will be of no use.

@ Eventhorizon. Yep. Use plenty of Drugs with my DE, so lots of experience with them. And will def use the right weapon at the right time.

@ Waterbizkit. Plus, you never know what she'll do. She may suprise everyone and go a long way. At least cause an upset somewhere.

[Brother Wolf]

Dark Eldar Wych Lord

Wych Archite
-Wych Agonizer
-Wych Splinter Pistol
-Combat Drugs
-Gruesome Talisman
-Hell Mask
-Shadow Field
148pts

Don't forget to check the rules for Wych Weapons and esp the Gruesome Talisman. Should prove interesting in 1:1 combat. Muhahahahaha

[TerrorLegion]

Imperial Guard Junior Officer:
Power Weapon
Bolt Pistol (extra CC attack)
Refractor Shield
Carapace Armor
Honorifica Imperialis
Master-Crafter Power Weapon
Medallion Crimson
Hardened Fighter
Die-Hard

Points: Lots...

(this is a joke, i have no doubt that this will be banished to post hell :flamer: )

[MooFreaky]

Wych Weapons will be used to the letter of the FAQ. I believe it is an oversight, but still...

From the Dark Eldar FAQ
If an enemy is locked in combat with a Wych unit and another unit, the enemy unit only counts as having their Weapon Skilled affected when attacking and being attacked by the Wyches
I believe this is an oversight, as Wych Weapons say they are only useful when the Wyches are being attacked. And the FAQ wasn't actually addressing that particular issue. However, it does state that enemy units have their WS affected when being attacked by Wyches...
What do you believe the correct action is Armand?

[Sword_Monkey]

Harlequin Solitaire

WS - 8
BS - 5
S - 3
T - 3
W - 3
I - 8
A- 4
LD - ~
SV - ~

Blitz attack, charges 12", gains an attack for every unused inch of it's charge ability.
Spiritless, no ability that relies on leadership has any effect on the solitaire.
Mask of fear, enemies are at -1 Ld in cc.
Holo suit, 4+ cover save against ranged, halves enemies WS in cc, counts as in cover so strike first.
Fleet of foot, extra d6 instead of shooting.
Flip belts, advance and retreat 3d6 inches.
Domino field, enemy always needs a 6 to hit in cc, regardless of comparitive WS's
Riveblades, power weapons, attached to forearm, if a six is rolled to wound then the enemy dies outright.
Harlequins kiss, melee weapon, wounds on 2+, if wounds on a 6 the enmy dies outright (after failing save).

140pts in all

Bring it foolz!, especially that wych lord, that will be an interesting one indeed.

[Waterbizkit]

Oh christ, a solitaire!

Damn me to hell for forgetting about the harlies.

~Bizkit

[TS_ahriman]

Here comes Mr. Wiggly!

Chaos Space Marine Sorceror Lord, Mark of Nurgle, Daemonic Stature, Mastercrafted Plague Sword&cc weapon, Nurgle's Rot, Daemonic Mutation, Daemonic Strength, Daemonic Essence, Daemonic Aura, 3x Minor Psychic Powers (hoping for aura of decay), Spiky Bits, Bionics, Furious Charge, Gift of Chaos

276 points
70 for the character, 100 on daemonic gifts, 31 on wargear, 75 on stuff that doesn't count toward the limit

*edit*
Took out the hounds, replaced with the less-than-impressive bionics

*edit*
Took out 6 minor powers. Replaced daemonic speed (now useless) with daemonic essence.

[Sword_Monkey]

Hey Moofreaky could i just ask whether Enslavers would be legal? They should banned i guess, but they fit into your rules, oh and Megasaurs and Carnosaurs, since they are like C'tan really, so basically i am asking if its codex choices only?

But even if it is someone could choose a Squiggoth.......

EDIT: just remembered that enlsavers rely on ranged powers, so they wouldnt be too great after they were stripped of them.


From the Dark Eldar FAQ
If an enemy is locked in combat with a Wych unit and another unit, the enemy unit only counts as having their Weapon Skilled affected when attacking and being attacked by the Wyches

"when attacking and being attacked by the wyches"..... I dont get the problem, the rules are fine.

[MooFreaky]

gains an attack for every unused inch of it's charge ability.
To clarify how this will work. You have fleet too. Thus against a non - jetpack opponent you will gain D6 extra attacks. As the it is assumed the fleet will put you close enough, followed by the standard 6" charge.

Against Jetpack equivalent opponents.
You will get the charge but no bonus attacks.
As you are a fleeting unit, there will be a d6 roll when facing other Jetpack equivalent units, on a roll of 6 you still fail to reach CC against and will be counter charged. Anything other than the 6 and you will get the charge.

If you have an objection to this, or another solution please PM me.

EDIT : Edited the rules. Must be from a Codex.

And if you read the actual Codex and the FAQ and see the context of what is being said, then you may have a problem with the ruling. I love my Wyches, and use them in my army. But still feel they aren't intended for that...
But I like it!!

@ TS_Ahriman. One model only. Thus the hounds can't be used.
Otherwise you'll get Orks wanting to bring Squigs and/or Grots. and other such things.

[Sword_Monkey]

Thats good Freaky, seems fair, i should strike first nearly always at least.

[eventhorizon]

good god, i hope Lord Gimpmaster gets drawn to fight that junior officer or the Sister rather than Ahrimans Nurgle Lord...

[TS_ahriman]

At least he has an adorable name ;)

[SlickWilly]

Khornate Deamon Prince : 191pts
Mark of Khorne
Collar of Khorne
Axe of Khorne
Demonic Aura
Demonic Stature
Demonic Strength
Demonic Visage
DreadAxe
Furious Charge
Spikey Bits
Frag Grenades

I made him just to ignore Shadow Field saves. ;)

Oh, and his name? Just call him Bartholomeu.

[Dooks Dizzo]

I am still feeling confident about my Grand Master. Nothing available that he can't insta kill.

[Zarathustrian]

Well, since no-one else has posted this, here goes.

Hive tyrant: 229 pts.
Acid maw
Adrenal Glands, both ws&I
Flesh hooks
Implant attacs
Toxic miasma
Toxin sacs
winged
Warp field
2x scything talons.

[treeboy]

before i post, what effect would the model being on steed have when it charges? and will frag granades have any effect?

[SlickWilly]

Dooks: Collar of Khorne makes mah DP immune to force weapon insta-kill. :catpilot:

[Sword_Monkey]

I'd like to see ya insta-kill a solitaire that will have 10 attacks against you before your awfully slow grand master gets a go, :D .

Although currently i am very scared of the Wych, and now that Tyrant.

[nareik123]

Go Dooks Go, i want that grand master to WIN. I was gonna do grand master but you beat me too it.

Khorne bloodthirster with dreadaxe and collar of khorne for me.

[Dooks Dizzo]

Dooks: Collar of Khorne makes mah DP immune to force weapon insta-kill. Yes but he is not immune to 5 or 6 S6 powerweapon attacks, and has inititve and WS dramatically lowered.

[toaae]

YES! I love these.

I'll have to find teh stats for Phontorous, my Nurgle Lord. He came in second in the 40kforums Heavyweight Arena of death. He only lost because the eldar used mind war. Otherwise, I would have torn him to shreds...

[Brian]

Long Beard aka my character.

Chaos Lord-
-mark of slaanesh
-sorecer
-Gift of chaos
-warp talisman
-20 minor psychic powers [dont count towards wargear so why not...]
-Daemonic stature
-daemonic mutations
-daemonic strength
-Dark Blade
-Combat Drugs
-close combat weapon
-furious charge
-spiky bits

Note: Siren used against opponets in assault phase so they cant assault if test is passed :smash:

[toaae]

thats illegal. You have over 100 points in daemonic gifts:

-Daemonic stature
-daemonic mutations
-daemonic strength
-daemonic essence
-daemonic resilence
-Dark Blade
-Combat Drugs

[Sword_Monkey]

siren? doom siren? you could at least list in your gear if you are gonna use it. Plus its a ranged weapon which is illegal.

[TS_ahriman]

It's a minor psychic power. Surely you've had it used against you once or twice.

[Brian]

combat drugs count toward daemonic abilties?

Thought it was wargear :/

If it is daemonic then ill drop the resilence and essence of course.

[toaae]

combat drugs count toward daemonic abilties?

Thought it was wargear :/

If it is daemonic then ill drop the resilence and essence of course.

Anything from the books of chaos counts as daemonic gifts.

[Sword_Monkey]

Ah pesky minor psychic powers, i never bother with them myself, and never pay attention to the names when people use them agasint me, plus there is a surprising lack of chaos players near me.

Is anyone using gift of chaos yet?

And that minor psychic power is being used as a ranged weapon, and not in cc, so it shouldnt be allowed.

No Squiggoths yet?

[Brian]

Yup to gift of chaos and siren can be used in the assault phase, though saying that not in cc so im not sure it can be used.There is other nice minor cc psychic powers in anycase anyhow.

[Sword_Monkey]

But only before cc, Freaky said that psychic powers can only be used in melee.

So Mind war, or Gift of chaos would be fine in melee, but not Siren.

[Aquila]

2. The model can be from ANY slot in the FoC. It doesn't have to comply to requirement of numbers (ie You can enter a Vet Sergeant if you want... or even a Hormogaunt...)

And no. You can't enter a Hormagaunt. At least make it a genestealer...
I HAD to say something :)

Put me down for a Hormagaunt!

[Brother Wolf]

only counts as having their Weapon Skilled affected when attacking and being attacked by the Wyches By the letter of the law as stated in the FAQ, that means their WS if half if they meet the criteria , (C: DE p9), while in combat with a Wych. So, half when the wych attacks, half when they attack the wych.

[Dooks Dizzo]

Can we get an army roster of who has put in yet?

Call my Grand Master, Damianus.

[eventhorizon]

@ ahriman- are you suggesting that Lord Gimpmaster isnt an adorable name : P

[TGVoid]

Meh, I'll go ahead with an I2 carnifex!

Carnifex
Acid maw
Andenal glands (both kinds)
Bio plasma
Bonded Exo-Skeleton
Extended carapace
Flesh hooks
Implant attack
Regenerate
Reinforced chiten
Symbote rippers
Tail weapon- Scythe
Thornback
Toxin sacs
Toxic misima
Tusked
Scything talons
crushing claws


Heh, I was thinking of making it a toxic lasher, now that would be nasty...

[Zarathustrian]

That carnifex is illegal, you can´t have two sets of crushing claws.

[TGVoid]

Fixed, sorry...

[Sir Plasma]

Inquisitor Xanthius Armand [blatant brown nosing] Xavier of the Ordo Mallleus, Ophidian Sub-Sector:
Wargear: Terminator Armour, 4 Familiars, Sacred Incense-54 [Let's see your chaos lads!]
Master-Crafted, Anointed Null Rod, Storm Bolter-65 [45 against limit]

Sooo.... on the charge, 8 S3 I3 CCW attacks, 5 I8 S3 power weapon attacks that wound Daemons on a 4+ or better, rerolls to hit, 2+ /4+inv. saves, and no psychic powers can be used against. Also, -1I to all Daemons in CC with him.

[TGVoid]

Eh, What?

[eventhorizon]

hehe, his special attack must be excessive whining at the fact that his parents were cruel enough to name him Xanthius Xavier, gibberish to all but the most annoying of individuals, and causing him to be a mockery to his classmates and sexually frustrated as girls would shun him while growing up...til the enemy kills themself.

[Random Person]

Epistolary Librarian:

Master Crafted Force Weapon,
Psychic Hood,
Storm Shield,
Familiar,
Artificer Armour,
Bionics,
Terminator Honors,
Jump Pack,
Melta Bombs,
Might of Heros,
Vail of Time,
Preferred Enemy(Tyranids),
Preferred Enemy(Eldar).
262 pts.

Edit:

Solitare=Not Legal, not from codex.

Edit 2: Added in the Traits.

[[Vertigo]]

Oh, God, I just can't help myself, it has to be said.

One Devestator Marine equiped with a Heavy Bolter would PWN everything in CC posted thus far and to come!

[Sir Plasma]

lol, it would, as everyone knows...


hehe, his special attack must be excessive whining at the fact that his parents were cruel enough to name him Xanthius Xavier, gibberish to all but the most annoying of individuals, and causing him to be a mockery to his classmates and sexually frustrated as girls would shun him while growing up...til the enemy kills themself.

whatever, it works.
...
...
he's not that fustrated, there's always servitors.

[TerrorLegion]

Oh, God, I just can't help myself, it has to be said.

That and my JO will pwn the carnifex before it has a chance to strike!! :agree:

[BrianGeneral]

Chaos Lord with:
Daemonic Aura, Mutation, Strength, Stature, Resilience and Dreadaxe, Spiky Bits, CC weapon, MoK, Collar of Khrone, Rage of Khrone, Feel no Pain.

Total effects: 5+ Invulnerable, +2 T and S, +3 Attacks(1 by additional CC weapon, 1 by Mutation and another from MoK) and +D3 more when charging into CC, re-roll once to-hit rolls per round, Force Weapons can't insta-kill and cancel out psychic powers' effect on 2+, normal unsaved wound will be negated on 4+, all attacks made will negate both Armour and Invulnerable saves, Fearless.

Neat eh?;)

[MooFreaky]

before i post, what effect would the model being on steed have when it charges? and will frag granades have any effect?
Treated the same as a Jump Pack. As you have the same effective range.


Solitare=Not Legal, not from codex.
From Codex Harlequins. Thus is legal.
As it is still a valid Codex.

@ SvedishFish. Damn you! Was tired when I wrote that... Missed putting that in. Will edit it out now. But will let you have the Hormagaunt... But no-one else can have silly entries.

@ [Vertigo]. Allowed purely because it's hillarious.

@Nareik123. No Techmarine? I was actually hoping to see him around, because it would add some diversity. Plus I actually wanted to see him up against others (I mean that seriously! Not in a mocking way!)

EDIT : Current Roster will be on page 1

All Chaos Lords with Deamonic Stature are treated as Deamon Princes. They are just too big for anything else.
Thus if people don't want to be a Deamon Prince you are free to remove the Upgrade. Just let me know.

[Aquila]

Moderator Executive Decision: Nareik MUST change his entry and use a Techmarine, souped up as much as possible. Nareik, this is your time to shine!

[BrianGeneral]

MooFreaky, I think you should also state what faction of DP they are......to avoid confusion.;)

[MooFreaky]

Updated. Showing which God they follow.

[TGVoid]

So, how do you decide who's fighting who?

[MooFreaky]

Depends on how many people enter.
If I just do a standard Knockout, then it's drawn from a hat. The Romantic FA CUp style (no Seedings here!).

If there are a reasonable number, then I'll consider doing a European Cup style. With groups of 4, then into a knockout. But that depends on enteries, and how long I want it to take. And how long other people want it to take. And such.

Whatever format, it'll be selected from a hat.

[SlickWilly]

Briangeneral: Your DP is illegal, as D.Venom cannot be combined with any weapons or gifts.

I would also like to point out for nareik that BloodThirsters cannot take any weapons or wargear other then whats in their entry.

[Miles Teg]

Space Wolf

Wolf Guard

Mark of the Wulfen
MC Pair of Lightening Claws
Runic Charm

[General Nuke Em]

I'll make a techmarine :D

Techmarine Kieran
Mastercrafted lightning claws
Servo harness
bionics
frag grenades
bike (couldn't find anything saying that this can't be done...)
terminator honors
iron halo

[Murphy[Ork]]

Well as all te good ones are taken, lets get some true orkyness in there

Warboss- Bionik Bonce, Cybork Body, 'Eavy Armour, Choppa, Power Klaw, Bionik Arm, Frag Grenades, WAAGH banner (gotta have a chance of rolling those snake eyes for potw).

Cost: 146

Powerklaw will probably be the most used, but ill leave it to you to decide when to use the choppa Moo

[Cannon_Fodder]

I might as well give the Guard a fighting chance...

Rough Rider Veteran Sergeant - Hunting Lance, Honorifica Imperialis, Power Weapon, Carapace Armour Doctrine, Cyber-enhancement Doctrine and Die Hards Doctrine.

Prepare to have your shiny power armour dented by the Imperial Guard's finest! :D

[MooFreaky]

Nuke Em's entry has been put in. You'll get a chance to see a Tech in action.

[Ap0k]

Chaos Sorcerer Lord of Slaanesh
Deamonic - Dread Axe, D. Stature, D. Strength, D. Mutation, D. Resilience, Combat Drugs (100)
Wargear - Spiky Bits, Power Fist, Frags, Bionics (41)
Not counted - Mark of Slaanesh, Furious Charge, 10 Minor Psychic Powers (125)

Total - 336

Dread Axe against pretty much everything, P-Fist probably not needed much, but can be used against low armour save high T creatures when it's possible to instant kill them. Drugs fairly self explanatory. Not hoping for any specific Minor Psychic power, but Fuelled by Pain could work out nice, and if Siren is allowed it could be useful if I'm not gonna get the charge, just use whatever is most suitable in the situation.

[BrotherPaladine]

How about a Jump Epistolary w/bolt pistol, terminator honours, iron halo, artificer armor, and familiar - 205

[Sword_Monkey]

What about powers? Veil of time would be useful.

[treeboy]

k, heres mine

Frederic von wienerschnitzel, the master of fluffy bunny poos

Mark of khorne

daemonic gifts
Daemon prince
Berserker glaive
Feel no pain
Daemon armour
Daemonic speed

War gear
Spiky bits
Frag grenades

[Murphy[Ork]]

Daemon weapons cant be master crafted

[whats_true]

This sounds like fun.

Space Wolf War Lord HQ:

Weapons: Power fist, plasma pistol, frag grenade, melta bomb,

Weargear: wolf tooth necklace, Wolf tail tailsman, master crafted weapon, belt of russ, runic charm, wolf Pelt

Atributes: True Grit (and anything else i don't know about)

179 pts

[Sword_Monkey]

Ah! a melta bomb, just in case on of us somehow summons up a vehcile by some absurd chance.

[TS_ahriman]

There's a minor psychic power that can. Surely you've had it used against you once or twice ;)

[whats_true]

hehe, ya, you never know when there might be a Venderable Dreadnought hanging around. Forgot I put that there. Can't hurt to leave it.

[Dooks Dizzo]

I have an objection to the charge idea. I really think that people should just start off in combat.

honestly in a real game there are many many things that cna be done to avoid a charging unit, especially with an IC.

If you insist that the charge must go through and that it is based off movement forms, then I would like to add a Land Raider Crusader to my Grand master please!

[Random Person]

Melta bombs can kill the Carnie.

[Invictus]

Melta Bombs can only be used against vehicles, I believe.

I agree with starting them off in combat. Makes things fairer.

And anyway, how are we going to work out which 'duelist' wins?

[eventhorizon]

moofreaky is not entering a model, and will be doing all dice rolls to work out who wins.

[Jianaran]

Archon
w/ shadow field
punisher
tormentor helm
drugs
agoniser
hell mask

[MooFreaky]

That archon is illegal. Can't take any other weapons with a punisher

[toaae]

ya know, there is a better way to do this:

ARENA OF DEATH-STYLE

Both combatants get a turn of shooting, and then both get the benefits for charging. Works out fairly, and makes it a little more exciting.

[TS_ahriman]

Little late for that though. 23 people would have to compensate for the difference.

[Dooks Dizzo]

Like adding a psycannon to my guy. kthx by.

[MooFreaky]

The reasoning behind the charge rules, was because I felt if two players of equal ability faced off, then the player with the longest charge range would always manage to get the charge off.
But if people feel they would rather start already engaged that is fine.

If anyone wants to give some feedback on their view. So I can just get a few more opinions...

[eventhorizon]

feedback: i like your system...because i have a steed X D

[Dooks Dizzo]

I would like to add my steed, aka Land Raider Crusader, to my Champion please!

Seriously though, the charge makes all the difference in the world in many cases. And truly that comes not from anything particularly special about your guy other than the codex he came out of.

Do you see a Daemon Prince without a movement enhancer? No, why? Becuase you might as well take it, you've run out of Gifts to buy.

And besides when they do this for a tourny event no one gets the charge, everyone starts off in combat. I would also recommend that you put a limit on Minor Psykic Powers. People are taking 10+ not because they would ever do that but because once again there is no reason not to.

[General Nuke Em]

Start off in combat.

[Jianaran]

actually, that archon has one one-handed weapon and one 2-handed. its perfectly legal.

[Cannon_Fodder]

I'd say start of in combat but for the first round both models count as having charged (as I'd imagine in single combat both characters would run at each other screaming).

Although I'm biased since not charging really screws me over...

[HiveMind]

Necron Lord
Ressurection Orb
Viel of Darkness

Watch him as he deep strikes away and then kills everyone with his staff of light...
If you won't let him use the VoD, then I'll use this guy.

Lord Bob of the Space Marines
Techmarine (Scions of Mars) with thunder hammer, bolt pistol, full servo-harness, terminator honours, iron halo

HA! I have a Techmarine and Nariek doesn't!

[MooFreaky]

Okay.
Will have it as both Characters are considered to have charged in the first round. This allows use of furious charge and such, which are often standard to many units.

@ Dodo. If you read your DE Codex you will see that next to the Punisher it says "No other weapons may be used" Page 5 of the Dex

@HiveMind. Techmarine is being taken for you.

@Popsumpot. Not grots. I expect someone of your capabilities to enter something useful. Perhaps something a little unexpected, that will suprise us.

And about Minor Psychic powers. I was thinking about this too. I'll limit it to 3. That number seems to be pretty common for Chaos Players I know. And it stops you guys from being rediculously overpowered. As Chaos has some pretty big advantages already, due to the Chaos Lord design rules. So I don't think you can complain.
However! If you wish to make a Lord based around the use of powers and are willing to sacrifice wargear and gifts to compensate then PM me and we will arrange something.

[commisar antoni]

a keeper of secrets with that psychic power that makes him unharmable ( fluffwise, he transforms into a enemy soldier, for example, in a tau army he would change into a soilder so the enemy would think he's one of their own )

[eventhorizon]

thank god you put a limit on minor powers. edited my entry to include furious charge, which i forgot to put in the points cost. although seeing as there isnt a points limit outside of codex restricition, i dont know why i bothered...im bored...

so how many entries are there so far?

[Sword_Monkey]

28 so far, as it says on the first page, this is gonna be one hell of a thing to pull off Moofreaky, if you can do it you will become a legend thats for sure.

Just hope you are going to do more Vehicles :) , for instance, although that wouldn't be especially fair since there isnt as much choice and the monolith wins everytime, just about.

[Murphy[Ork]]

If someone took a necron lord, would you let him get gets back up rolls?

[treeboy]

whoops! my mistake, i'll take off the master crafted bit on the beserker glaive.

[dark_11]

right i'll add my warrior:

'eavy armour
bionik arm
bionik bonce
power claw
choppa
cybork body

bring it on! :fencing: :ninja:

i just noticed its like murphys. damn

[nareik123]

All right, as svedish fish mentioned AGES ago that i must change my dude to a techmarine, ill do this.

Techmarine nareik123

Full servo harness
scions of mars
Artificer armour
Twin light claws
Jump pack
Iron halo

and just for good measures, he will be posessed by a greater daemon of khorne. Eat this fex.

[Brother Wolf]

I'm going to 2nd Svede's nomination. nareik123 has been on about TechMarines since he arrived here last summer, so it's time for him to put his money where his mouth is. I trust you'll think this acceptable, Moo? (It's just a shame he can't be a Devastator TechMarine, cause everyone knows Devs rule in CC. ;) )

I don't see what you're all on about. My I8 Wych is going to trounce every last one of you guys. :D

[TerrorLegion]

I don't see what you're all on about. My I8 Wych is going to trounce every last one of you guys.

Lies, my JO will so t-bag your wych :evilnod:

[eventhorizon]

hahaha, against my Lord, your initiative 7 may trounce him, but i'll live long enough to give you the arabian goggles before i die : P

[blaesa]

Question: Would a Great Harlequin be a valid choice? IIRC, he's an HQ choice and the Harly codex is pretty much official.

[Cannon_Fodder]

Chapter appoved is also official, does that come under "must be from a GW codex" rule? (i.e. no chapter approved)

Otherwise I could add Xeno mounts to my RR to make him live a bit longer...

EDIT: Also switched the RR's trademark item for a power weapon, I figure it will be more usefull after the first turn ;)

[blaesa]

Actually, the Harlequins aren't just in a CA article, they actually have their own codex. (http://billnapier.nfshost.com/images/Harlequins.pdf)

[Dooks Dizzo]

Okay this is enough talking...LETS GET IT ON!!!

[Big_Al]

For kicks, how about my massive squigoth give this a try eh?
Since there is no shooting allowed I suppose it doesn't matter how many shoota boyz/kannons he's got on his back :)
Otherwise let me first point to this article:

http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/orks/gaming/QnA-orks.htm
specificly:
"Q. May non-feral Ork armies take Boarboyz and Weirdboyz?

A. Out of consideration for the more... ahem... old-fashioned Warbosses who have a fondness for such things, yes they can."my Bad Boar Warboss with his super cyboar,bionik bounce,arm,cybork body and choppa/PK wants to try his luck!

[MooFreaky]

So do you want the Squiggoth or the Feral Boss?
Both are legal entries.

And the Great Harlequin would be a legal too

EDIT : Nariek123 has been changed to a Techmarine

This means someone is now free to use the Bloodthirster if they wish...

[blaesa]

Goody.

Great Harlequin w/ Rive Blades, Harlequin's Kiss, D-Field, Plasma Grenades, Dread Mask (112 pts)

[Cannon_Fodder]

I'm surprised no one's put any regular eldar characters in.

[MooFreaky]

Witch Hunters = 1
Dark Eldar = 1 (Dodo will make 2... but his is still illegal atm)
Daemonhunters = 2
Harlequins = 2
IG = 2
Tyranids = 3
Orks = 3
Space Marines = 8
Chaos = 8



Not too bad a mix.

The codecii with no representation are Tau (not suprising), Kroot Mercs, Eldar and Necrons


EDIT The Current cut off date is the 27th of March...
That's still like 2 whole weeks away. I may have been tripping when I decided on that (I really don't remember why I decided to make it so far away)
So do people want this brought forward?
Perhaps this coming Monday? The 20th?

[ExplodingGeckos]

Necron Lord
Ressurection Orb
Viel of Darkness

Watch him as he deep strikes away and then kills everyone with his staff of light...

Are you sure no one entered necrons?

[MooFreaky]

He entered a Techmarine if he couldn't use the Veil of Darkness.
And as there is no use for VoD I assumed he wanted the Tech

[eventhorizon]

im up for bringing the date forward, as dooks says;

LETS GET IT ON!

[Random Person]

No Squigioths, their from CA, not a codex, and the Harlie's codex expired I think.

[pazer5]

so an avatar's legal?

[Random Person]

Yes.

[MooFreaky]

No Squigioths, their from CA, not a codex, and the Harlie's codex expired I think.
They are from the Feral Ork codex.

Both the Feral Codex and Harle codex are legal.
Ferals have at least one GT in recent times. So it is legal.
And Harle's are still a legal army. Their Dex is on the GW site.

[HiveMind]

Oh, damn, I forgot. I have jump packs on my techmarine. Oh, and I don't care about your I8 Wych, I have 7 S8 attacks to instantkill her! The same goes for every other T4 or lower character! MWAHAHAHA!

[MooFreaky]

That I8 wych, rerolls missed wounds, hits you on a 3+, gets about 8 attacks.
In return you hit on 5's. And have to get past her 2+ Invulnerable save.

[TS_ahriman]

In the case of equal initiative where both models kill eachother, are you going to treat that as if it never happened and run the combat again?

[MooFreaky]

Yes. Will be rerun until there is a victor.
Having a winner based on most wound or hits would advantage the big guys too much. So it's just a redo.

[HiveMind]

That I8 wych, rerolls missed wounds, hits you on a 3+, gets about 8 attacks.
In return you hit on 5's. And have to get past her 2+ Invulnerable save.

You can't get a pair of whoppers like that past me! I KNOW she has MAX 6 attacks (and I have jump packs and therefore charge, so she has 5 with drugs), and that her WS is only 2 higher than mine, so I hit on a 4+! So ner! Oh well, it'll be settled in the arena.

[Popsumpot]

@Popsumpot. Not grots. I expect someone of your capabilities to enter something useful. Perhaps something a little unexpected, that will suprise us.
Nooooo!!!! Can i get just like a fire warrior or something?

When you say one model, does Familiars count?

Master Shaper.
Ork Hybrid
Eviscerator
slugga
Mark of the Favoured Child.

EDIT: Trygons count as Special Characters don't they...

[eventhorizon]

Trygons arent in a codex, so theyre not allowed : P

[MooFreaky]

You can't get a pair of whoppers like that past me! I KNOW she has MAX 6 attacks (and I have jump packs and therefore charge, so she has 5 with drugs), and that her WS is only 2 higher than mine, so I hit on a 4+! So ner! Oh well, it'll be settled in the arena.
You halve your WS against her. As she has Wych weapons. So you will be WS2.
She has 6 attacks... sorry. Couldn't remember.
And we have changed the rules. You start in Combat. But both count as charging.
But regardless, she would have got the charge on you. Fleet, plus a drug 12" charge makes her faster than you.

[TGVoid]

Cool, so umm, can you start? There allready plenty of people

[MooFreaky]

I need Dodo to fix his Archon first. It's illegal as it is. And I don't want to just rule him out because of it.
32 is a perfect number though...

ENTRIES CLOSED

I'll work out the first rounds and post them up on the front page.
Where the rules were. And give it a couple days. So people can see who they are up against and whatnot.

[Murphy[Ork]]

This is all a little silly, we all know the DE are going to trounce everyone else

[MooFreaky]

the fights for round 1 are posted. Check the front page.

And DE won't pwn everyone. They are as much a force ans anyone else though.
It could go any way,.

[Cannon_Fodder]

"]This is all a little silly, we all know the DE are going to trounce everyone else

Statisically yes, Real life, maybe...

EDIT:

Round I

Cannon Fodder vs The Great Void

Rough Rider vs. Carnifex, can you say horse sausage? :D

Also are you going to inculde how many wounds the survior has left? It would be nice to know just how badly we got beaten by.

[Brian]

Just wondering is every entry supposed to be in round one, mine seems to be missing an opponet. :vikingb:

[Cannon_Fodder]

I figure your up against Brother Armand since he's also missing.

[MooFreaky]

Sorry. Missed them. You're in there now.
You were drawn against Armand.

And I'll be inform of how many wound were left. What round the combat went til. And anything else important (such as if you were cut down trying to run away...)

[Brian]

Luck of the Irish for the win then ill need.

[Cannon_Fodder]

You need luck of the Irish?! I've got a guardsmen with a stick and a horse against something that eats trees whole for a living!

But I'm not worried, I've heard some interesting stories about what happens when you poke a 'fex with a stick... :D

[BrianGeneral]

Christ, that's the nightmare I'd thought of so far! :banghead:
Well, prepare to die Dooks.;)
ps.Updated my stats, since I forgot the +1A from Mutation.

[MooFreaky]

But I'm not worried, I've heard some interesting stories about what happens when you poke a 'fex with a stick...
You better hope you kill him on the charge.
Your Guardsman's strength can't wound him after that...


ps.Updated my stats, since I forgot the +1A from Mutation.
Done

EDIT : There are a couple very interesting matchups.
A Squiggoth vs Hive Tyrant.
A Khorne Prince vs a Slaanesh Lord.
An IG Juniour Officer vs a Devastator Marine

[Murphy[Ork]]

O joy a keeper of secrets round 1 haha, roll well mr Moo, i need that guy dead round 1 else im fkucked.

EDIT: just did a run through myself, wounded him twice and lasted till round 3 woooo

[nareik123]

Ah dammit, i'm fighting a nasty nurgle lord

Bye bye prescious techmarine.

[Brother Wolf]

This is all a little silly, we all know the DE are going to trounce everyone elseAhh, but the DE is mine. And dice don't like me. Regardles of where Moo is geographically, his dice will know the Wych is mine and perform accordingly. :D

[TS_ahriman]

And I find myself hoping that the techmarine wins....

[dark_11]

I'm entering a space wolf wolf guard. Haven't a clue what they can do

[Big_Al]

Squiggy For The Win!
To bad I can't pummel him with all the orks on his back... extra attack called throw feral orks atem. As long as he doesn't roll over....

[Zarathustrian]

When do the battles start? Just can´t wait to see how this ends :)

[Sword_Monkey]

This is all a little silly, we all know the DE are going to trounce everyone else

You do know i am using a harlequin? better weapon skill than a DE and the Domino field is equivalent to a Shadow field...well nearly Plus i halve the enemies weapon skill. I am just worried about Blaesas Great Harlequin, thats good too.

[treeboy]

Techmarine nareik123

Full servo harness
scions of mars
Artificer armour
Twin light claws
Jump pack
Iron halo

urm, nareik...just in case you haven’t noticed. When you upgrade a techmarine to have full servo harness he automatically gets artificer armour. And you gave him artificer armour as wargear. (Unless you was just stating that he had artificer armour then i apologise)

[Dooks Dizzo]

Just keep in mind that Mr. khorne guy is WS3 and I4 against me, and I only need to score 1 wound baby :thumb:

[TS_ahriman]

Though the collar of khorne would argue against that last part....

[Dooks Dizzo]

Hey, he could roll a 1. And I wasn't sure whether or not he's taken it.

Edit: Do you roll for the Collar each time? or just once per game?

After looking closer at Mr. Khorne guy, I am probably going to have to kill him on the 1st go or suffer the consequenses.

Scoring 3 wounds shouldn't be impossible for me though.

Damn, I know that I am going to sound like a spoil sport but Brian's lord is 20 points over on wargear/gifts. Remember that all the gifts of the Gods count against wargear limits and Feel No Pain, Collar and Rage of Khorne add up to 30 points.

Other gifts (+ Daemon Weapon) come out to 90 points.

I am totally willing to be wrong but I did the math twice.

[Sir Plasma]

Sweet! I gots ta fight the hormaguant!

[eventhorizon]

woot, my slaanesh lord is in a very fluffy battle with a khornate daemon prince.

skulls for the skull throne eh? well, its a good job he doesnt mind whos skull : P

[BrotherPaladine]

I'm gonna get fried against that Xeno :p

On the other hand, I know the suggestions are finished AND I've already put mine in.. however, I'm suprised no one put in a Furiouso dreadnaught.. or would that have been against the rules?

[treeboy]

i thought gifts of the gods counted as daemonic gifts?

[nareik123]

Treeboy, i was claiming him to have it, but then i should have added all of it, but i don't want to test copyright.

@TS: your lord was going to win as soon as moofreaky drem up the results.

@Moofreaky: you better get decent invunrable saves you, i'm not trying to sound threatening though.

[Brother Wolf]

I must admit, I'm actually liking my odds vs the Slaanesh Prince. If I can score 2 wounds and not get squashed into a pulp in response, (darn S8), I should win thanks to the beauty that is Gruesome Talisman and a lovely little rule known as outnumbering. Muhahahahahah!!! If only he hadn't augmented his S, I wouldn't be sweating at all, (I don't think Wych weapons work even though the unaugmented S is 5).

C'mon Wychy-Woman!

btw- Black Gobbo, Siren cannot be used once already in base contact. OOPS!

[BrotherPaladine]

And, something I was bored enough to whip up...

A linked list of competitors. Now y'all can see who you're up against without haveing to search :p

Ap0k - Chaos Sorcerer Deamon Prince (Slaanesh)
Big_Al - Ork Squiggoth
Black Gobbo - Chaos Deamon Prince (Slaanesh)
Blaesa - Great Harlequin
Brian General - Chaos Deamon Prince (Khorne)
Brother Armand - Dark Eldar Wych Archite
Brother Paladine- Space Marine Epistolary
Cannon Fodder - IG Rough Rider Veteran Sergeant
Captain Plasma - Inquisitor
Commisar Antoni- Keeper of Secrets
Dark_11 - Ork Warboss
Dooks Dizzo - Grey Knight Grand Master
Eventhorizon - Chaos Lord (Slaanesh)
General Nuke Em- Space Marine Techmarine
Hive Mind - Space Marine Tech Marine
Miles Tag - Space Wolf Wolf Guard
Murphy[Ork] - Ork Warboss
Nareik123 - Space Marine Techmarine
Popsumpot - Kroot Master Shaper
Psygunner - Space Marine Apistolary
Random Person - Space Marine Epistolary
Slick Willy - Daemon Prince (Khorne)
SvedishFish - Tyranid Hormagaunt
Sword_Monkey - Harlequin Solitaire
Terror Legion - IG Juniour Officer
The Great Void - Tyranid Carnifex
TreeBoy - Chaos Deamon Prince
TS_Ahriman - Chaos Sorcerer Lord (Nurgle)
[Vertigo] - Space Marine Devastator Marine
Waterbizkit - Sister of Battle Canoness
Whats_True - Space Wolf Wolf Lord
Zarathustrian - Tyranid Hive Tyrant

[TS_ahriman]

Damn, I know that I am going to sound like a spoil sport but Brian's lord is 20 points over on wargear/gifts. Remember that all the gifts of the Gods count against wargear limits and Feel No Pain, Collar and Rage of Khorne add up to 30 points.
Other gifts (+ Daemon Weapon) come out to 90 points.

Unfortunately you're right. 20 points too many. Looks like something Moo has to take care of...
---
And that list is awesome. Way faster than searching through the thread every time I want to see gear.

[Random Person]

Don't use psychic powers for me, I need to insta kill him.

Edit: And forgot to add in to the points, and metion(What, I don't think about traits when making dudes.), my dude is from a chapter with the "Suffer not the alien to live" twice(Tyranids and Eldar.), and "Eye two eye" as the draw back.

[Ap0k]

A linked list of competitors. Now y'all can see who you're up against without haveing to search

You sir, are a genious. Either that, or just a lot less lazy than the rest of us.

It took me forever to find Psygunners Slaaneshi-fodder earlier.

[whats_true]

Hey Apok, move BrotherPaladine list to the front page, or at least edit it in to MooFreaky front post. Easyer to find.

Man, I'm actualy excited about this! Can't wait to see who wins :fencing:

[Ap0k]

I think Moo can do that himself if he feels it necessary (though I don't see why he wouldn't).

Just because I have the capability to do it, doesn't mean I just automatically do it. It's still Moo's thread ;)

And I'm quite looking forward to the results myself.

[whats_true]

Woops, really meant "can you do it" not "do it".
Slip of the tounge there.

[Dooks Dizzo]

Unfortunately you're right. 20 points too many. Looks like something Moo has to take care of... thanks for the back up there.

It is very important to me because I drew the one guy who poses a VERY serious threat to me on the first draw. Of course 20 points of that threat are illegal.

[[Vertigo]]

Imperial Guard Junior Officer:
Power Weapon
Bolt Pistol (extra CC attack)
Refractor Shield
Carapace Armor
Honorifica Imperialis
Master-Crafter Power Weapon
Medallion Crimson
Hardened Fighter
Die-Hard


versus



One Devestator Marine equiped with a Heavy Bolter

Poor bastard doesn't even stand a chance.

[TS_ahriman]

Yeah, seriously. I once saw a single devastator marine kill a wraithlord in cc.

;)

[Tarot]

Looks to me like that JO is seriously illegal. That looks like WAY more than fifty points of wargear to me.

[MooFreaky]

Anyone found to be over will just lose random piece of wargear, until they end up under the limit. Everything on you will just be put in a hat (figuratively speaking) and chosen at random.

EDIT : How do I copy the links Paladine made?
I can get the text, but not the links themselves...

[eventhorizon]

ok, someone check my Slaanesh Lord, because random wargear going missing scares me, and i was pretty sure he was legal but now not-so-much...


Slaaneshi Lord Gimpmaster- 275 points (60 + 95 of Daemonic Gifts + 65 of Wargear + 30 on minor psychic powers from the Book of Slaanesh [come on Feel No Pain] + 15 on Veteran Skills)

Lord, Mark of Slaanesh, Steed of Slaanesh
Needle of Desire, Power Sword
Daemonic Strength, Resilience, Aura, Rune, Combat Drugs, 3xMinor Slaaneshi Power, Furious Charge

and moo- you dont copy links, you do it the long way, by clicking each one and creating your own links...or you could get him to kindly post the URL codes for you...

[Cannon_Fodder]

But I'm not worried, I've heard some interesting stories about what happens when you poke a 'fex with a stick...

You better hope you kill him on the charge.
Your Guardsman's strength can't wound him after that...

I have 4 attacks on the charge. The 'fex has 5 wounds...

And lets not even start on instant death :D


Looks to me like that JO is seriously illegal. That looks like WAY more than fifty points of wargear to me.

I count 80pts of wargear, TerrorLegion SHOULD have started of with a Heroic Senior Officer anyway if he wanted to present atleast half a challenge...


"]


Imperial Guard Junior Officer:
Power Weapon
Bolt Pistol (extra CC attack)
Refractor Shield
Carapace Armor
Honorifica Imperialis
Master-Crafter Power Weapon
Medallion Crimson
Hardened Fighter
Die-Hard


versus

Quote:
One Devestator Marine equiped with a Heavy Bolter


Poor bastard doesn't even stand a chance.

I dont know, even a Devestator Marine can kick an IG's ass in CC, even a supped up IG's ass. (but that's why we have really big guns...)

[MooFreaky]

Results for round 1 are up!

A number of upsets occured, and a few very close matches.

Some instances of note...

Whats_True's Wolf Lord landed 5 Power Fist attacks on HiveMind's Techmarine. Needing a single unsaved wound to kill outright.
Proceeded to roll four 1's and get his only wound deflected by an Iron Halo. The Techmarine mauled him on the counter.

Waterbizkit's Canoness took on TreeBoy's Deamon Prince. She made 6 invulnerable saves in round 3 (when they were striking at same time) to save her skin and win the match!

Random Person's Epistolary wounded Popsumpot's Master Shaper, but rolled an 11 on his psychic test so failed to kill him outright. In return every Eviscerator hit landed...

Sword_Monkey's solitare failed to roll a 6 to wound (which would kill outright). MasterCrafting of Lightning claws allowed Nuke Em to reroll a single dice (after every hit missed!) and get a single hit. Taking the last wound of the Solitare before he could attack again.

Brother Armand's Wych Archite killed Black Gobbo's Slaaneshi Prince before he could swing his weapon. The wound he took was from overdosing on Combat Drugs.

CaptainPlasma's Inquisitor never needed to swing. The free attack provided by Digital Weapons killed Sved's Hormagaunt.

[Vertigo]'s Devastator Marine made it through to round 2. Both his attacks on the charge wounded and were unsaved.

Blasesa's Great Harlequin also failed to get a 6 on the 'to wound' roll, until round 5!
Both he and Brother Paladine's Epistolary showed an amazing ability to not hit eachother. And hits that were landed (only one or two) then failed to wound. With absolutely no wounds taking place until an outright kill was landed.

The draw for round 2 will be posted shortly.

EDIT : Also note that all the Techmarines made it through, except Nareik123's...
I felt really bad, but Ahriman's Daemon Prince is a bitch. You didn't even get to take a swing at him.

[TGVoid]

Yay I won

EDIT: So, he caused 4 wounds on the charge?

[Bengin]

Eventhorizon: Gifts of the Gods count towards the 100 point daemonic gifts limit. Even the steed. You have 175 points worth of gifts, your model is not legal at all (doh).

[HiveMind]

Whats_True's Wolf Lord landed 5 Power Fist attacks on HiveMind's Techmarine. Needing a single unsaved wound to kill outright.
Proceeded to roll four 1's and get his only wound deflected by an Iron Halo. The Techmarine mauled him on the counter.

Yeah! Go me! I love it when I get lucky, 'cause it makes up for things like charging Guardsmen with hormagants, getting 9 wounds, and having my friend say "May the Emperor guide me!" then saving 7 of them!

[TGVoid]

Yes! Im versing an S3 =I=!

You cant hurt me!

[TS_ahriman]

If I get through this next round, my lord should get preferred enemy: techmarine. He'd deserve it....

[General Nuke Em]

CaptainPlasma's Inquisitor never needed to swing. The free attack provided by Digital Weapons killed Sved's Hormagaunt.BAHAHAHAHA

Moofreaky, a junior officer with honorifica has 3 wounds and I4. Unless you removed the honorifica on the basis that the model had more than 50 points of wargear.

[Full_ork]

Did you forget to include my Feral warboss moofreaky?

*cries*

[Waterbizkit]

Yes! Let the Emperors Light protect!

Can't believe she killed a daemon prince, guess I can cancel the funeral. Then again, now she needs to kill a greater daemon. May the Emperor watch over her and Moos dice rolls. :p

~Bizkit

[TGVoid]

Well, A WITCHhunter taking out a DEAMON prince, A little strange, I think

[eventhorizon]

where does it say in the codex gifts count towards the daemonic gifts limit? i can only find a bit on the book of chaos section that says they count towards wargear limit but nothing about them being daemonic gifts...

page 14, chaos armoury-

under Gifts of the Gods section:
"Gifts of the Gods count towards the characters wargear limit".

under Daemon Weapons-
"The cost of a Daemon Weapon counts towards the total spent on Daemonic Gifts"

page 38, the books of chaos-

first paragraph, bullet point 3:
"Remember that Gifts of the Gods count towards a characters wargear limit"

Chaos Space Marine FAQ v4.0.1 also makes no mention of Gifts of the Gods counting towards the Daemonic Gifts limit...the armoury specifies deamon weapons count as daemonic gifts and gifts of the gods as wargear unless they are daemon weapons...where is everyone getting this from?

the only thing i can find illegal on my model is that he has minor psychic powers but isnt a sorcerer- add 10 points for sorcerer ability. fixed. legal until someone quotes a source.

[Random Person]

Can you do a losers tree also Moo? And what are the chances of failing an Ld 10 roll, 1 out of 6, no? Well, Good game Posumpot.

[BrianGeneral]

No, I don't think I passed the limit, even after re-calculating.
All Daemonic Gifts (including Dreadaxe) is 90pts, with 100 as the limit.
All the rest counted up as 40pts (excluding MoK and CC Weapon since they're excluded to the limit), far from the upper limit of 50. Unless Gifts of the Gods count as Daemonic Gifts (where I can't find a phrase in either CSM codex and v4 FAQ), I don't think my DP is illegal.

And Moo, you didn't post up my match's result, why? Just becase my DP seems illegal?
(In an instance I request a rematch, if my DP is proved legal.:banghead: )

ps. And yeah Dooks, I think CoK will auto-takeaway Force Weapons' ability to insta-kill, from what written in the Codex.
And thanks for supporting me Eventhorizon.:)

[TS_ahriman]

@EventHorizon

Page 16, under limits. "With the exception of psychic powers, all wargear and equipment in the books of chaos count towards the daemonic gifts points total."

It's not the easiest codex to get the hang of....

[eventhorizon]

it doesnt say that in mine?

where does it tell you what edition you have, because i think mine is missing a very vital piece of information then. ISBN # 1-84154-322-5.

[TGVoid]

What did that last thing you wrote mean?

It would be way overpowerd if they could have 150pts of DG AND wargear

[BrianGeneral]

Mine doesn't state either.
Page 16 of CSM codex, under 'Limits': "A Chaos Lord may not have more than 150pts of wargear and Daemonic Gifts and of this total no more than 100pts can be Daemonic Gifts." That's what they wrote there about Lords.

And Void, CSM characters can have up to 150pts of equipments, as you've seen.
ps. My Codex bears the same ISBN of Event's.

[TS_ahriman]

It's the International Standard Book Number (mine's the same number by the way).

Are you *positive* it's not there? It's at the end of the paragraph.

[BrianGeneral]

No, its last sentence is "No model may have more than one of each item of Wargear".;)

[eventhorizon]

yup, thats what mine says Brian. do you have your codex with you now ahriman? im going to go down to GW later on and pick up a store copy to see if they have a different edition. anyway, ive made a backup character for if we get clear on this rule...


Slaaneshi Lord Gimpmaster- 270

Lord
Mark of Slaanesh, Furious Charge, Sorcerer, 3x Minor Slaaneshi Power
Weapons- Master Crafted Power Sword
Daemonic Gifts and Weapons- Steed of Slaanesh, Combat Drugs, Needle of Desire, Strength, Resilience, Visage
Wargear- Spikey Bits, Bionics

[TGVoid]

Well, What a cofuffel!

*Shouts*: "SVED!! WE NEED YOUR HOLY HELP"

[BrianGeneral]

They should be a standalone character Horizon, so no Hounds.;)

[TGVoid]

If we could have extera "Retinue" I would have taken either a tyrant with 3 guard or a fully tolled up Broodlord and fully tolled up 'Stealer Retinue...

[eventhorizon]

kk, lose the hounds and add bionics then. character edited.

*edit* pfff...youd think theyd include something like that in the freaking FAQ...retards...

[TS_ahriman]

Page 14, gifts of the gods reads for me:

"all gifts except psychic powers are considered daemonic gifts"

14 and 16 are the only two places I can find that specifically state that for me.

[Waterbizkit]

Well, A WITCHhunter taking out a DEAMON prince, A little strange, I think

Pft, figures a witch hunter has to do a daemon hunters job. I mean c'mon, here I am having to fight a greater daemon now and dizzos grand master is off fighting a harlie. Lazy Grey Knights can't even do thier own jobs. Heavens knows how many heretics and rogue psykers are going unpunished because my cannoness has to do the work of a daemon hunter. :p

Still can't believe I squeaked by with one wound left, heh. Here's hoping she manages it again against the Keeper of Secrets.

~Bizkit

[TGVoid]

Yes, Heretics going without being punished... *Hides chaos symbols under blood soaked blankets*

Ahem.

[BrianGeneral]

Still, it's not. Page 14 'Gift of the Gods': "The items and abilities listed here are only available to models with the Mark of the Chaos god in question. They are listed here for convenience when working out your army - see the Books of Chaos for full details. Gifts of the Gods count toward the model's wargear limit."
I think you misread this Ahriman.

[Touristo]

Well for what it's worth, I'm cheering for your Cannoness too. Always thought Sisters of Battle seemed pretty cool, if I ever got into TT at all I'd be tempted to give them a go. Although they look like they'd be hell for a total shakey-fingered novice like me to paint...

[TGVoid]

Touristo loves bolter bitatches!

Just kidding.

Anyway, YAY Sved, you can go back to your allmighty throne made of nachos and beer now...

[treeboy]

dammit! i knew i should of taken a dread axe...

[Murphy[Ork]]

Im fairly sure the Chaos codex got re-released at some point to change several things, 1 probably being this (another being obliterators going to 4(5) toughness).

Your probably looking at older copies event and water. Flick to the oblit page and see what the toughness is, Ahriman do the same :P.

By the way I have the old one with T5 oblits and no mention that gifts of the gods count towards daemonic gifts, however the in store ones are the same as Ahriman


EDIT: btw moo you suck at rolling, being killed before getting a chance to swing? psh it was only a greater bloody daemon :boohoo: ahh well, least he had the balls to go toe to toe with the bastard!!

[BrianGeneral]

I picked up my Chaos codex about a year eariler, so I'm quite sure my Codex is the up-to-date one------I'd also got all FAQs from GW website.
(Mine is written in 2002------look for GW licence in back cover or content page.)

[Cannon_Fodder]

Considering what he was up against my Rough Rider did a pretty impressive job by taking 2 wounds off a 'fex, I'm going to have to look at using RR's more in my regular games.


O, yeah! Thats right you horse riding pansy!

Yeah, but I've still got 9 other Rough Riders, a Lascannon Team and a Demolisher who now want to have a "word" with you :nana:

[TGVoid]

"Oh, Hey gu---"

Heh, I think that Uber horse wounded my 'fex, not the guy riding it...

[Cannon_Fodder]

Well at least getting squished by a CC 'fex is a better fate then being beaten to death with a heavy bolter like TerrorLegion was...

[TGVoid]

It was just plain unfair... I mean the JO didn't stand a chance...

[Murphy[Ork]]

brian check the obliterator part. The newer version has them as T4(5), the old as T5

[BrianGeneral]

It's T5. However i never heard a reprint of CSM Codex......Even they didn't reprint, those mistakes should be shown on the v4 FAQ, but I found none.

[eventhorizon]

yup, mine is also T5 rather than 4(5). idiots shouldve put something in the FAQ.

erm....am i out. at the time i didnt realise my character was illegal...dammit.

[nareik123]

Nooooooooo, my techmarine died in the compititon. I now officially now hate nurgle daemon princes and i demand my techmarine gets hatred: nurgle from the fantasy rules.

[Murphy[Ork]]

t'was a stealthy reprint for sure, bugger all changed bar oblits are now 4(5) so can be insta killed by str 8+ and gifts form the gods count as daemonic gifts

[Brian]

Aiiie! whats the initive of that *thing* armand :cry:

Ah well I fully blame the dice as ever. :damnu:

[ChanImmortal]

Nooooooooo, my techmarine died in the compititon. I now officially now hate nurgle daemon princes and i demand my techmarine gets hatred: nurgle from the fantasy rules.


Muhaha! Rot Techmarine Rot! Hail the Nurgle Daemon Prince and thy Man Reaper

[BrianGeneral]

It'was a stealthy reprint for sure, bugger all changed bar oblits are now 4(5) so can be insta killed by str 8+ and gifts form the gods count as daemonic gifts
Then surely we don't know that. About when?

[Zarathustrian]

Actually the chaos codex is on a third printing right now(first page with the authors tells witch printing it is). And the first and second printings are obsolete. So if you planning on attending tournament you better have the third printing becouse there are some drastic rules changes between printings.

[BrianGeneral]

I don't need to go to GTs.(Actually it's because there're only one store running GW stuff in Hong Kong, and they barely organize Tourneys.:( )
But where to view its version? Product Code?

[Zarathustrian]

It´s on the first page, with the authors. If you have the first printing, it dosen´t say anything the second print and onwards say the printing. the FAQ to first print of CSM codex was on the GW website, but it was removed when the 4:th ed came. And for some wierd reason these is no FAQ to second print. So only way to see what changes have happened you have to buy the newest print.

[MooFreaky]

Moofreaky, a junior officer with honorifica has 3 wounds and I4. Unless you removed the honorifica on the basis that the model had more than 50 points of wargear.
Lost the honorifica because it is what was pulled out of the hat.
This was the only model changed. My Chaos book said that the Daemon Princes were legal... I need to change it apparantly.

So the other models just lost, because they were outfought. Even though they had more gear than they should have.

I didn't find any other mistakes with anyones. I checked through them all brieftly. The JO was the only one out, that I could find.

@ Full_Ork. You PM'd me asking if you could enter one. But you never posted him in here. I knew you were interested, but as you never formally entered him there wasn't much I could do.
You didn't send me wargear or anything. Just asked if it was legal to enter one.

@ BrianGeneral. Your battle wasn't written about, purely because nothing overly exceptional happened. There wasn't freaky dice rolls, or huge combacks. Just a pretty standard fight. It wasn't at all because you were illegal.
Same with Event. You were not discriminated against, because I thought your model was legal too.


Aiiie! whats the initive of that *thing* armand
Double a Marine's Initiative.

Plus she can use combat drugs to "always strikes first, regardless of cover or weapons"

EDIT : Thanks Ap0k, for copying those links for me!

[Zarathustrian]

Inquisitor Xanthius Armand Xavier of the Ordo Mallleus, Ophidian Sub-Sector:
Wargear: Terminator Armour, 4 Familiars, Sacred Incense-54 [Let's see your chaos lads!]
Master-Crafted, Anointed Null Rod, Storm Bolter-65 [45 against limit]

Sooo.... on the charge, 8 S3 I3 CCW attacks, 5 I8 S3 power weapon attacks that wound Daemons on a 4+ or better, rerolls to hit, 2+ /4+inv. saves, and no psychic powers can be used against. Also, -1I to all Daemons in CC with him.

Well, Just that you know you only get +1I once if you have familiars, not once for each familiar. And you can not annoit a null rod. Annoited weapon is a weapon it self. So you eather have MC null rod or MC annoited weapon, and termie armor only gives you 5+ inv save ;)

[BrianGeneral]

Well, that's my bad luck then. I know Dice God won't bless me on the way......
So, GG Dooks, and thanks for trusting me Moo.

[Dooks Dizzo]

GG Brian.

[MooFreaky]

It doesn't matter how good the =I= gear is right now. There is absolutely no way possible for him to win his next matchup. His S is too low to touch the Carni...

Void's Carni hasn't had a decent opponent yet... In fact he hasn't had anyone actually capable of killing him!

Plus, Familiars don't get to attack. They are treated as wargear souly for the puropse of increasing the I value. Otherwise they would be illegal, just like the Hounds the Chaos people could bring.
Or the Squigs and Grots orks could field.

[Zarathustrian]

the =I=´s gear is not a problem. I just thought pointing it out so that he doesn´t use it against his friends or in any serious events.

[MooFreaky]

Fair enough. I didn't even see the 4x Familiars. I just thought it was one...
So definately didn't get I8!

[nareik123]

(Nareik123 leaves the room and all of relic forums can hear him swearing, shouting and cursing the dice gods for the unfairness that makes him lose EVERY compitition)

Phew back, anyway, i'm gonna right a bit of fluff for that battle.

Techmarine Nareik123 swung his lightning claws at the traitor guard officer, slicing his lasgun in half. He introduced a boot to the traitors chest, only just missing. His servo arms were battering the other guard that was in his way. He felt repeated las blasts hit his armour, but his artificer armour was one of the strongest armour suits in the imperuim and no wounds were caused. Then his flamer on his servo arm opened up, incinerating all the guard but the traitor officer. The officer tried to parry his lightning claw, but Nareik123s servo arm came down and punched straight through his foes chest. He felt shapes arriving, but was happy when terminators voices filled his vox.

He didn't notice his foe changing, but it was to late, he heard his terminator bodyguard swear and turned around, his blood running cold. Standing in front of him was a nurgle daemon prince. The guns of the terminators opened up but the daemonic flesh was tough and nothing hurt it. The daemon prince started hacking through the terminators and soon only Nareik123 was left. He roared, running towards the abomination screaming "for the emperor" and lunged at his foe. His claws bit deep into his foes flesh, but the daemon did not feel it. The daemon laughed and stabbed nareik123 with his sword. Nareik123 felt his life end, but remained conscouis enough to see Techmarine Hive Mind and Grey Knight Grandmaster Dooks Dizzo enter the room.
"revenge me" said Nareik123 and he died.

Now thats going out in style, but i only happened to do a bad ass GK GM today, thats annoying.

[dark_11]

so ime versing Zarathustrian's hive tyrant next... fuck

[TS_ahriman]

Mr. Wiggly, exalted daemon prince of Nurgle was feeling particularly badass today. He had slain countless of the loyalist fools, the plague swarming over them like a long-forgotten lover. He spotted another cluster of marines and began stalking towards them.... "Oh fuck!" shouted Mr. Wiggly, as he tripped over an exposed tree root. Tumbling head over heels, his enormous bulk landed atop techmarine Nareik, killing him instantly. Then Dooks gave him a thumbs up and they had a drink and laughed at Mr. Wiggly's fall, but especially at that one techmarine that got smushed by Mr. Wiggly's bloated bottom.

[all in good spirits]

[nareik123]

well, heres what i SHOULD have entered the compition in with.

Grey Knight Grand Master
Standerd, Daemonhammer, Sacred incense, icon of the just.

Cheap and effective anti daemon person there, i will use him the next time i get a chance.

Moo, can we do a losers tournament as well. I want to see my techmarine in action.(and winning hopefully, you heard me when i typed my last post)
Seriously, it's a cool compitition but it's not balanced, the imperial guard espeically. It's always chaos or eldar or orks that are going to win, rarely the techmarine or the guard or inquisitor. If you want, i have an idea. if you want moo, Private message me and i'll tell you my idea.

[MooFreaky]

Round 2 completed.
Much sooner than expected. But had some time. And was dying to see what was going to happen.

Armand naturally ripped out the heart from [Vertigo]'s marine. Landing enough blows to kill him 5 times.

TS_Ahriman vs General Nuke Em
In round 1, he landed just a single wound on Nuke Em's Techmarine. Failing a Plaguesword instakill.
The Techmarine then caused 2 wounds with his MasterCrafted Lightning Claws, and both Invulnerable saves were failed.
He then landed 2 hits with his Servo arms. Wounding twice. But two 5's appeared, and Ahriman lived on.

Round2, save Ahriman fail to hurt Nuke Em.
While Nuke Em wounded twice with lightning claws! Two 6's appeared and Ahriman walked away.
The Servo arms both failed to hit!

In Round 3 Ahriman finally landed all his hits. Caused 2 more wounds and the techmarine was dead.

Zarathustrian vs Dark_11
Zarathustrian removed Dark_11's Warboss without any problems. There was no return attack managed.

Slick Willy vs Ap0k
Round 1. Ap0k took a wound from his combat drugs before anything happend! (not a good start)
Ap0k proceded to land wound 4 times! But 2 were saved by Slick's Invulnerable.
Slick then Retaliated and landed a single wound. But Ap0k's drugs allowed him to ignore it (making up for the earlier wound!)

Round 2. After an awesome first round, Ap0k managed to do precisely dick this round. Hitting once, and failing to wound.
Slick hit back twice, wounded once. But again, Ap0k's drugs came to the rescue!

Round 3. Ap0k managed just 1 hit this round. However, this hit caused a wound. And Slick failed to save it. Sending Ap0k through to round 3.

HiveMind vs Popsumpot
Both characters are wielding weapons that allow them to strike at S8, I1 and both only have T4. Both have an invulnerable save of 4+. An even matchup if there ever was one!

HiveMind has the benefit of 2 extra attacks, however, giving him a rather sizeable edge.
The two of them proceeded to instakill eachother.

Game 2, they did the same thing.

Game 7. HiveMind's Techmarine swung an impressive seven S8 attacks. He managed a less than impressive 1 hit (however he did get a Yatzee of 1's. Which is impressive)
That hit only needed a 2 to wound. Yet another 1 appeared...

Popsumpot, managed to land 3 hits. Wounded twice. The first was saved! But the second got through, and FINALLY there was a winner!

Blaesa vs Dooks Dizzo
Round 1. Blaesa managed an impressive 5 hits. He then got two wounds, one of which was a 6! Meaning if Dooks failed the save he was dead. A 5 spared Dooks' life. But he didn't stop the other attack, and conceeded a wound.

Dooks would need 6's to hit. But only need a single hit and he would likely win the match. A str 6 force weapon will do that for you!
He then rolled an impressive number of 1's and 2's. Failing to land a shot
Even his Master Craft reroll was a 1...

Round 2. Blaesa again landed 5 hits. Wounded twice, with one 6 appearing. This time Dooks couldn't save it. And the Grandmaster was out.


The Great Void vs Captain Plasma
Captain Plasma couldn't wound the Great Void if he wanted to. And it took just 1 round for the Carni to rip the =I= apart...

WaterBizkit vs Commisar Antoni
Round 1. Bizkit's Cannoness managed to land a couple hits. Wounding once. But the Daemon's Invulnerable save deflected her blow.
Antoni then landed 2 hits, and wounded once. A failed Invulerable save saw the Canoness wounded, and unable to conceed another wound (she can conceed 1 insta death causing blow).
Round 2. Bizkit again landed 2 hits, wounding once. But Antoni's Daemon deflected this too!
Antoni then managed to wound twice. But, needing only 2's, failed to hurt the little woman.
Round 3. Bizkit stayed consistent. Landing 2 hits, 1 wounded but was saved again!
Anyoni then landed 3 attacks, wounded 3 times and not one was saved!

DOUBLE POST

Nareik. It's not balanced for all armies. But nothing is. Especailly a CC tournament. There are just some armies that are better than others.

All the Techmarines are now out. However, they were very unlucky to fall. It took some seriously unlucky rolls to have them taken out.
If anything it has made me think alot more of the bastards. I still don't know that I would actually use one (cost effectiveness and such). However, they are definately effecitve character killers (espc MC Lightning Claws combined with Servo Arms)

I have a few ideas for the future. That will make it more balanced for other armies. But that is for another time.





Round 3 is now out.
The results will not be up until Friday sometime. Purely because I want to wait a bit, so people can get a look at everything before moving on.
I don't want it to move too fast. And have people come in and see everything is finished, when they only just saw who they were fighting in Round 1.

And it creates a little tension...

So even if I know the results, you won't! HA!
I feel powerful now.

[nareik123]

:boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:

Well, all my favourites are out, i might as well never read this thread again.

[Sword_Monkey]

Woah i musta been unlucky, oh well Blaesa for the win!!

[Brother Wolf]

Brother Armand's Wych Archite killed Black Gobbo's Slaaneshi Prince before he could swing his weapon. The wound he took was from overdosing on Combat Drugs.Muhahahahahaha! Sweetness.

On another note, this thread is just insane. I leave it alone for a few hours and I have to comb through 3 new pages of posts. Well, back to my modding duties!

DOUBLE POST
Round 2 completed.

Armand naturally ripped out the heart from [Vertigo]'s marine. Landing enough blows to kill him 5 times.Damn, 2 rounds in the time it took me to read through all of that. It would've been easier if the CSM dialogue had been taken elsewhere, but c'est la vie.

Moo, thanks for imparting your positive dice on my Wych. Dice don't like me, but apparently they love you. Can you come over and roll my dice for me next game?

So, round #3;
Hive tyrant: 229 pts.
Acid maw
Adrenal Glands, both ws&I
Flesh hooks
Implant attacs
Toxic miasma
Toxin sacs
winged
Warp field
2x scything talons.VS
Wych Archite
-Wych Agonizer
-Wych Splinter Pistol
-Combat Drugs
-Gruesome Talisman
-Hell Mask
-Shadow Field
148ptsHmmmm. I'm thinking my chances are pretty good since I outclass him on WS & I, however if he lands even one attack I cannot save it's curtains. I have to land every attack in the first round or somehow manage to make saves in the 1st round to get more attacks in during the 2nd round. At least I can cut his WS, that should help me...

[TS_ahriman]

I'm hoping to turn someone into chaos spawn. Just once.....

[dark_11]

my warboss didnt even wound the tyrant! damn!
oh well good luck brother armand. a warboss couldnt kill the beast maybe you can.

[Waterbizkit]

Sleep well now my sweet cannoness, you've done enough for today. *wipes away a tear*

Well, I saw her death coming, but at least she made it three rounds with a greater daemon.

Rest in piece oh heroine of mine.

~Bizkit

[Zarathustrian]

Damn, the Harlequin & DE characters were the ones I was hoping to avoid.
High I and implant attacks usually take care of everyone else.

[TGVoid]

Now I'm up against the lord of Disease.... SWEET!

[whats_true]

I can't believe i got 4 1's!!!!


Be pretty funny to see if Apok and Armand go at it together at the final round. That would be a match to see.

On a side note, this is probably the best thread i have seen. Like watching ESPN

[Dooks Dizzo]

Sucks to be me I guess. Good work Blaesa.

[eventhorizon]

it pleases me that the Khornate Daemon Prince that took out my overloaded Lord has been ended : D

[Sir Plasma]

Damn! Not even one wound?

[[Vertigo]]

[Vertigo]'s Devastator Marine made it through to round 2. Both his attacks on the charge wounded and were unsaved.


AHAHAHAHHAHA OWNED!



Round 2 completed.

Armand naturally ripped out the heart from [Vertigo]'s marine. Landing enough blows to kill him 5 times.


Awwww, fuck.

[MooFreaky]

After a number of requests, the first round losers are getting their own tree.
So you will see your characters in action again.
The tree is posted on the first page, in MY second post (as I didn't want to crowd the first post, as it is the main event)

[Cannon_Fodder]

Cool, but I reckon you should change it so the losers go on to loser round Three, just to see who's the worst CC fighter ;)

Then have the Best CC fighter fight the worst CC fighter for title of CC challenge winner :D

[TGVoid]

If I lose this round do I go into the losers round?

[Full_ork]

You didn't send me wargear or anything. Just asked if it was legal to enter one.

I did send wargear in the pm, but I wasn't clear.

I had a said a feral warboss on a supercyboar with shinybitz, warpaint, a choppa and burna.

But oh well.