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Hello_Moto
2nd May 06, 4:01 PM
I have been warned and alerted by Praxis that i am not to post QS strategy in exsiting threads residing in the Strategy section of DOW unless i create a new thread.

the thread in question (which created this entire fiasco)is entitled "Stopping T3 infantry spam". I fail to see how the concept of "spam" is not inherently linked to QS given the numerous threads complaining that QS is nothing but spamfests. Working under this assumption, i feel that i am right in posting QS strategy in this thread.

I seem to be the only member who acutally posts QS strategy because no-one else does. i do admit that i may take replies a little too personally sometimes. The strategy forums should cater for both standard and QS players. In this particular case, strategy input from a QS veiwpoint was warranted and was not added to deliberately derail the thread into a debate about standard vs QS.

however, my beef is with Praxis himself. Praxis (formerly known as [TLSC]Praxis) is a competent standard player and since i joined last year, i have come to learn that players of his calibre in these forums (one only needs to look at certain automatchers' signatures to see such bias) tend to look down upon QSers such as myself as not knowing jackshit about strategy because QS is apparently a noob-only thing.

Having Praxis warn me (because he happened to come across it) about posting inappropriate strategy in a thread that obviously warrants QS input given its title is wrong IMO. His background prior to becoming a moderator is biased and as such, i feel hard done by his prejudice towards QS (further evidence stems from the fact that i had a heated debate with him about strategy prior to him becoming a Mod). The tone of his PMs also supports this with statments such as "I am tired of reading QS strategy posted by you in every strategy or balance discussion that i come across" or words to that effect. I wouldnt be so worked up if any other mod (Adonis, Slow_Runner, TBS etc.) had warned me (and i do realise that Slow_Runner is a standard res player but Slow handles matters in a more delicate way).

I therefore kindly ask that the senior admins review this and possibly resolve the matter in a manner where all parties involved can be appeased.

Moe
2nd May 06, 4:22 PM
What the bloody hell is QS?

cfoley
2nd May 06, 4:24 PM
What's QS? Is it using a script to command your army?

ionfish
2nd May 06, 4:25 PM
Quick Start.

Hello_Moto
2nd May 06, 4:36 PM
yes QS=Quick start where you are provided with a lot of power and requisition at the beginning of a game thus abolishing early eco management which is a integral part of standard res gameplay.

cfoley
2nd May 06, 4:46 PM
Thanks guys. Now I understand. :banana:

Aron_DeTomado
3rd May 06, 7:07 AM
Personally, I feel QS and standard play the same when it comes to WA, so you shouldn't get introuble for posting QS "strategies", but thats just me.

ÜberJumper
3rd May 06, 8:15 AM
I imagine new threads identified as QS related strategies would be perfectly fine. Obviously if you start posting QS related strats in a non QS related strat thread then you could be in violation of common sense guidelines :-)

Hello_Moto
3rd May 06, 11:58 AM
I imagine new threads identified as QS related strategies would be perfectly fine. Obviously if you start posting QS related strats in a non QS related strat thread then you could be in violation of common sense guidelines :-)

i totally understand what you are saying but this title "Stopping T3 infantry spam" (emphasis on the word "spam") does qualify for QS input seeing as the general consensus of these forums is that QS generally involves T3 infantry spamfests late-game anyway.

i simply feel hard done by Praxis' prejudice towards QS in general given my previous encounters with him and his DOW gameplay background (standard res players look down upon QSers blah blah blah...). Either that, or i am extremely paranoid.

ÜberJumper
3rd May 06, 12:59 PM
I wouldn't think that a thread titled "Stopping T3 infantry spam" would have anything to do with QS related strats myself, unless the first post clearly identifies that it's about a QS game. I would think it would be specifically about, well, "Stopping T3 infantry spam" and that should be independent of normal or QS type games, but of course I've not seen what the first post in the thread you're refering too is.

Hello_Moto
3rd May 06, 4:14 PM
I would think it would be specifically about, well, "Stopping T3 infantry spam" and that should be independent of normal or QS type games,

fair enough, i see where you're coming from . Perhaps i did read too much into the title. My bad.

ionfish
3rd May 06, 5:32 PM
As Jumper says, we have no objections to Quick Start strategy being discussed, but as it changes the way the game plays in a fairly fundamental way, any such discussion should be kept separate from discussions of 'vanilla' strategy.