Warhammer Online CGI Trailer

[Tyconius]

Hi everyone,

I hope this isn't against the rules, but IGN got a really cool CGI trailer of Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning. Check it out:

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/748/748723/vids_1.html

(Beware, orky stuff inside ;) )

[Typhoon GX]

LMAO That Ork didn't know what hit him. :P

[Ifitmovesnukeit]

Haha, I like the way they stuck that "So many years of Warhammer" message on the front- pre-emptively dealing with the "OMG TEHY RIPED OFF WROLD OF WARKRAFT!!!11" crowd, I guess...

[Moe]

Thanks, but you're like the sixth guy to link to that trailer...

[CrossOrion]

Sweeeettt

[Pokey ork]

....Well they definately have my support! Havent seen such an incredible cinemetic of Warhammer EVER! Loved it even if it was short.

LOL poor orc! THATS the type of orcy humour we need in DOW! Loved it.

[retroholyfire]

So funny watching that orc. brilliant stuff.

[Catt]

What right does a High Elven Wizard have going toe to toe with a Witch Elf? What is the world coming too eh, I don't know ;)

[TheLoneKnight]

Love the video. Pity they didn't have humans and chaos, but still, loved the video.

The beginning was so delightfully Orky, even if they aren't actually Orks and only said "Waaugh". :D

Stupid midget fightin' tha Orc, though. That boy shoulda stomped his hairy butt!

[Darkseid_Is]

I was thrilled to see the hot elf on elf action, but yea, where were the Humans? Empire, Brettonia? Wasted all those pixels on a bloody dwarf...

At least the 40k Squats had the decency to die off quietly...

[NeoHunter]

Never a fan of anything medieval really. But I'm just downloading this to watch since I enjoy CGI animations so much.

[BERSERK3R]

LMAO That Ork didn't know what hit him. :P
OMG yeah, what HIT him :lol:
MAAAAN those movies rock, best ever, just like the DOW intro.
Those warhammer, world of warcraft movies are so *ing AWSOME! :jaw:
Hm, Playstation 4? :nod:

[NeoHunter]

Just watched the trailer and...

MAN! That Ork...that HAD to hurt!

[tl998]

Does anyone else think that Elf witch is

1) Too thin for a highly-trained warrior
2) not wearing enough armor into deadly combat
3) High heels on her boots...for COMBAT? wtf is she smoking.

[Adonis]

tl998 misses the point of having hot chicks in the game.

[NeoHunter]

Esepcially when the said hot chick is actually a hot elf chick.

[tl998]

The point is being *alive* should be a higher priority for the Elf witch than being HOT.

I suspect gimmicks like these will just serve to turn away some of the potential female gamers from this game. Girls play too y'know, and they may want to be able to have a female avatar that doesn't visually suggest "hey, look at me, i am ready for sex right now!"

Dear god, give them options at least. Having skimpy clothing is fine if you can have the option of being fully clothes as well. Women don't play MMORPGs in order to be objectified. They get enough of that int he real world. Hey, you don't see the MEN going into battle or onto the top of a snowy mountain wearing nothing but a cape and a cod-piece right?

Yes I realize Adonis isn't saying what he said in a serious manner, but this is real issue that needs to be dealt with. When game companies realize they're losing about 50% of their potential revenue due to girls not wanting to play their games...

We need to show the rest of the world that most gamers/game designers aren't lonely, socially inept males. Show that we're more mature than people give us credit for by treating everyone (including women) with respect. Part of that respect is having realistically viable outfits for the various tasks needed in a game.

Dawn of War has succeeded without having females showing ridiculous skin. I'm sure lots of other games like this Warhammer online game can too.

[Tain]

I thought Wyches were gladiators though? Or is that just Dark Eldar Wyches? Gladiators tend to go for minimal armor and style over safety.

[Darkseid_Is]

I'm sorry to rain on your soapbox tl998 but the "hot elf chick" is a Witch Elf, a Bride of Khaine, and her appearance is consistent with the way she would look in Warhammer Fantasy Battles. Blame GW and their artists if you wish, but the guys making the game have to stick with the material. They do dress like that, so... sorry.

Otherwise I'd be right up there with you on the soapbox (I'm a big fan of the Farseer design in DOW), but you're fighting that battle in the wrong place.

BTW the Dwarf Slayer was wearing less than the Witch Elf....

[TheLoneKnight]

Yes, but he doesn't care about dwarf nipples. He cares about elves in bikinis.

Obviously you all need to quiet down and start agreeing that she was wearing far too little.


mm.. dwarf nipples..

[Boomstar]

So cool... I'd buy 5 copies if it came out right now holy shit just WOW :jig:

[Colonel_Darren]

mmmm dwarf nipples *drools on keyboard*.... err look away people look away

[Shas'o Uziel]

I am so getting that if I can become a dwarf slayer just so I can become one of those slayers with the axe on chains and turn into a whirling dervish of death :clap: Look out greenskins here comes a dwarf with a grudge and I am not afraid to put someones eye out. :rage:

[Darkseid_Is]

I am so getting that if I can become a dwarf slayer just so I can become one of those slayers with the axe on chains and turn into a whirling dervish of death Look out greenskins here comes a dwarf with a grudge and I am not afraid to put someones eye out.

I wonder how that will work though. Since slayers are suicidal, will they somehow require you to go find the biggest hardest thing in the zone and try to take it out to keep your 'slayer' status? That could get a tad inconvenient....

[tl998]

I am not on a "soapbox" I am merely stating what I have heard (and agree with) from various female gamers.

So the makers of Warhammer: Online maybe following fluff. I'm not blaming them. I'm blaming the character designers. However, it should be noted that it's "strange" (actually, it's 100% expected to be honest) that the only female in the trailer is very scantily dressed. The people of War:online could've picked a female character whose fluff lets her dress more sensibly, but they decided to use that elf instead. I still think that kind of insults our intelligence as game players. As if we value how little a female character wears over actual gameplay!

About the Dwarf: He is not meant to be (and I don't think the majority of us interprets him to be) depicted in a sexually suggestive way. The way he is depicted does not "objectify" the dwarf.

[Adonis]

tl998, you might want to start a thread on this in the General Discussion (http://forums.relicnews.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29) board and bring your views on this matter to the rest of the members. The subject is good debate material, and you could use the video as an example.

[Darkseid_Is]

Hey I agree with ya tl998 but right now I'm wracking my brain for a female melee unit in Warhammer Fantasy that would 'fit' fighting a High Elf Mage and I can't find one. There is no archtypal Empire female or Bretonnia female (other than the damsel, and she shouldn't be fighting up close). Dwarves don't have one either, neither do Lizard..men, or Beast..men, Orcs are all male, Chaos would be scantily clad too, (Daemonette or Chaos berserker, they haven't discovered shirts up there apparently), as would a Wood Elf, or a Lahmina (sp?) Vampire Count. Frankly, Warhammer Fantasy Battles is just a bad setting to sell to women in general, but that's on GW. Warhammer 40k is a bit better sell from what I've seen where I live. I mean I've known female 40k players who hate the fantasy setting but love fantasy in general. But since I'm not a woman I can't represent that perspective.

But GW's problem is the genre's problem and one of the reasons I've strayed away from 'generic' high fantasy, too many chain mail bikinis and I'm like WTF??? I was gonna say that I'm not 13 anymore but honestly even back then I was always thinking it looked stupid. It's like that Red Sonja trash they've been putting out there recently in comicdom. I'm supposed to believe that's a positive roll model for women yet she's impossibly gorgeous, wears a bikini of chainmail (there we go again), and kicks ass like some Beer Commercial bunny.

Btw I was joking about the Dwarf but obviously missed my mark (shoulda used a smiley). I know he wasn't being 'objectified' (unless you want to argue the racism implied in fantasy dwarf's, but that's not for this thread).

[Skullcap]

The video has to be the funniest and coolest I've seen in a long while.

the "Oh crap" expression of the ork is so halarious.

But the thing I liked was the dwarf slayer vs ork warboss (looked like one to be honest, not 100% sure). It really brought out how dwarfs really are. The guy blocks multiple times AND a direct hit to the face and keeps going. Just lovely.

Lets home, for the developers sake they support all the different regions for payments, its the one thing which I found quite pleasing about dawn of war by the fact they accepted switch/mastreo instead of the usual credit card :)

[CrossOrion]

Eh. I see girls on the street that dress less then that elf and know some who would potentially dress less then that elf. Quite frankly, I'm not particularly bothered and I really doubt any female gamer would care, since this really is typical as opposed to 'outrageous'.

That said, I doubt I'll be getting this, because I more or less sworn off MMOs. No matter how you sell it, its still going to be more then the hours you have on your hands.

[W0lf]

by using the HOT females in less clothes game workshop attract more customers than they lose....

[n0z3k1ll3r]

The trailer for the old Warhammer Online looked better.

[tl998]

by using the HOT females in less clothes game workshop attract more customers than they lose....
What you mean by definitely alienating almost half the population? Oh I'm sure that's just a SOUND business plan.

[JaqTaar]

Since most Warhammer fans are males, yes it is.

[tl998]

No it's not a sound business plan. I was not a big fan of warhammer really but I bought Dawn of War anyways. By alienating half of your POTENTIAL customers, you deny yourself huge future profits.

Right now China is importing and buying a relatively small amount of stuff from foreign companies. Now, why do you think so many companies are absolutely SALIVATING over the prospect of being able ot sell stuff to China? The huge 1.3 billion people market! Just because currently the people of China are for the most part not part of their customer base it doesn't mean the company can safely do things that insult the people of China. If they of, they lose out on future earnings because then the Chinese people won't BUY their products.

Same thing with a Warhammer game. You alienate half the poential customers, so your potential earnings just took a huge hit.

And please don't tell me you think alienating half our population even if it were economically sound is the right thing to do. If I'll make more profit by insulting Hispanics, would it be right for me to do so?

[Setaro]

Most girls I know that play WoW or similer that make female characters, tend to create as sexually attractive character as possible, so having a sexually and provocatively dressed female model is hardley going to drive away girls from playing this/a game.

[Akranadas]

Of for gods sakes, Shut up about the girl crap. Take it to another topic.

If another post goes out of topic this discussion is closed

[Fixer]

Moving back to the topic at hand. I play the Dark Elves in Fantasy myself (http://www.slightlyodd.co.uk/miniatures/draille.jpg)

I'm looking forward to this game now. Mythic has a good reputation for PvP driven games. With the history, background of Warhammer and some pretty nice graphics. I think i'll be dropping WoW for the original game with big green toofy Orcs :)

[Lord_Calgar445]

if i recall, there are only 4 races on release - dwarf, orcs, high elves and dark elves...so that's why only those 4 races were present

[FarseerAnimal]

Thanks for that Akran. The female image and alienation debate can go on forever and still not end.
Personally I'm looking forward to the RvR combat and big battles. I will be relagated to Empire as High Elves are too snooty for me and there are no Wood Elves :( But reading an FAQ on one of the forums it says there will be more races. Hmm... that means "What race for the next WAR!!11" threads on the GW forums for months after it has been proven it'll be X race.....
I'm definatly getting it anyway. I look forward to seeing you guys on there, in 2 years......

-FarseerAnimal

[DatonKallandor]

There's 6 races in WAR. Elf vs Dark Elf, Dwarf vs Ork, Human vs Chaos Human.

Also, is the girl (sorry to come back to her) a dark elf? She doesn't exactly LOOK dark. She's just as pale as the elf mage. (She doesn't look EVIL either)


Daton

[Lord_Calgar445]

rofl that's a new one about dark elves.

[Fixer]

Dark Elves in Warhammer Fantasy battle aren't called 'Dark' for their skin colour (my personal army is albino). Just the same way the Dark Ages weren't named for a lack of sunlight. They're dark because they live in giant spiky towers, worship khain (and Slaanesh), ride about in black arks hunting for slaves, torture, maim, kill for fun and generally try to commit genocide upon their brightly coloured dress wearing high elf cousins.

Info on Dark Elves here:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/darkelves/who%2Dare/

[tl998]

Are the gods in the Fantasy world the same ones as in the 40k universe, or do they just share the same names?

[FarseerAnimal]

Basically tl998, the 40K and Fantasy worlds were linked. Either the Fantasy world was the past of 40K or another theory, the Fantasy world is hidden in the Eye of Terror, no-one can get to it so they fight on. Some people say Sigmar (the first human Emperor of the Fantasy Empire) was one of the lost Primarches.
At the end of the day the universes were linked. Now GW has severed the connection. They are offically seperate. But the old similarities remain (Khaine the bloody-handed God of the Eldar and Khaine the bloody-handed God of the Dark Elves).

-FarseerAnimal

[Lord_Calgar445]

Actually they are now linked again - see the books of chaos.

[JaqTaar]

Sorry Akranadas, but I have to add one thing, don't want people to get me wrong there.


And please don't tell me you think alienating half our population even if it were economically sound is the right thing to do. If I'll make more profit by insulting Hispanics, would it be right for me to do so?
That's not what I wanted to say. I tend not to use smilies when I think the implication is too absurd to be taken seriously.
You were saying that females are alienated by the way this game is advertised in the video. I simply think this is not the case.

[nemarsde]

Is this the work of Blur Studios? The music certainly has themes reminiscent of the DoW cinematic. Excellent work either way.

[FarseerAnimal]

Actually they are now linked again - see the books of chaos.
Not nessecerly. The Liber Chaotica is meant to be the ravings of some mad Chaos worshipper (He might not have meant to worship Chaos to start but in studying it...). As a result it can can dismissed as nonsense just as easily as it can be taken seriously.
Also, Black Library books are not canon. Unless GW endorse the book itself (As has happened with the Tanith-First-and-Only) then BL books are to be considered fanwork rather than 'official' fluff. Different authors will have different interpretations, so on...

-FarseerAnimal

[FerociousBeast]

Blur's movies seem more professional than this one. I doubt this is a Blur product unless it's in a very early stage.

[RocK_2K_]

"We are proud to present an exclusive Sneak Peek of the exciting Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning cinematic trailer currently in production. The video is being created by Venice, CA based Blur Studios, the company behind the fantastic Warhammer® 40,000: Dawn of War™ opening video. You will need Flash 8 to view the movie. Enjoy!"

taken from the warhammer online website, so yes, it is by blur

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/video/

[Darkseid_Is]

Unless GW endorse the book itself (As has happened with the Tanith-First-and-Only) then BL books are to be considered fanwork rather than 'official' fluff. Different authors will have different interpretations, so on...

You have a source for this? B/c the BL stuff has always been canonical, since its written mostly by the guys who also write the codices, etc. Usually Black Library books will contain revelations that are then backed up by the relevant Codex (like how Deus Ex Mechanicus set the stage for Codex: Necrons). I've never seen anything in a BL book that contradicts or was contradicted by a Codex, Rulebook, etc. or vice versa.

You could be right, but I'd like to know where you heard this.

[Adonis]

taken from the warhammer online website, so yes, it is by blur
There's nothing on Blur's website nor is there any kind of evidence on the website you linked saying that they've made this video.

Relic doesn't have a monopoly on the Warhammer or WH40K universe. Games Workshop can commission anyone they wish to create games and videos for them.

[Akranadas]

THQ owns the IP right for W40K video games IIRC. They Tasked relic to make a W40k game i think

[RocK_2K_]

Oh i see, so you're saying a large developer like Mythic are in fact lying and saying it's done by Blur studios when in fact it's not, yea, I somehow doubt that.

[TheLoneKnight]

Actually, guys, he's right.


The video is being created by Venice, CA based Blur Studios, the company behind the fantastic Warhammer® 40,000: Dawn of War™ opening video. You will need Flash 8 to view the movie. Enjoy!

I can't see why Mythic would BS everybody about it. Why not give credit where credit is due? What possibly benefit would lying about who made the video offer Mythic? :p

[Akranadas]

No, I think they did make it.

http://www.blur.com/indexl.html

I can't beleive they made RTCW intro too!

[Adonis]

Heh, my mistake. Don't get all bent out of shape, Rock.

[Akranadas]

It's ok, we still <3 you Adonis :p

[Aron_DeTomado]

Not nessecerly. The Liber Chaotica is meant to be the ravings of some mad Chaos worshipper (He might not have meant to worship Chaos to start but in studying it...). As a result it can can dismissed as nonsense just as easily as it can be taken seriously.
Also, Black Library books are not canon. Unless GW endorse the book itself (As has happened with the Tanith-First-and-Only) then BL books are to be considered fanwork rather than 'official' fluff. Different authors will have different interpretations, so on...

That only applies to actual Novels, comics or the like. Books whichs primary objective is to educate people in 40k are canon, otherwise there wouldn't be much point to them.

[SPADEZ]

o.O who deleted my post on the "hot girl" comment? :P afraid to face the truth?

But on a side note, this game will blow WoW out of the *ing water!

[Lord_Calgar445]

not necessaryily (sp?) spadez, if they get it right then yes it might but there's a lot of ifs...

[Akranadas]

o.O who deleted my post on the "hot girl" comment? :P afraid to face the truth?

But on a side note, this game will blow WoW out of the *ing water!

I'm not afraid to face any truths, but you heard what I said, and the reason I deleted it wasn't just because of that, it was more along the lines of it being tasteless and volger.

[SPADEZ]

Ah, no worries.. I'm just annoyed with all of the games using "hot women" bah..


This game will be better than WoW because it is PvP oriented and not the rinse/lather repeat instances, like BWL or MC or now Naxxramas.. all Blizzard does for endgame is "ZOMG LEZ ADD NEW INSTANCE"

One thing I hope for Warhammer online.. is that it is skill based and not weapon based.. as well as not a "click here and it will fight for you".. sort of like Oblivion.. click and hold to attack, with fatigue and all that jazz..

[zIP]

Just one more thought on the issue of "Is 40k universe linked to the Warhammer world?" debate.



Read the Necron Codex. :Pike: :blink:

[SirTerrius]

i love when people debate the "facts" of fiction...

Games Workshop is the Evil Twin(tm) to Microsoft...

both who are very good at hocus pocus mumbo jumbo, to make you buy the Next Big Thing(tm)...

and yes, i'm a willing slave to the grind, and yes i have TT armies, and will probably play Warhammer Online because i love the universe...

but, please, there is no "canon" when it comes to Games Workshop... the story changes to fit the needs of the marketing department, and the pocketbooks of the shareholders.. since GW is a publicly held company now...

it's all borrowed from Tolkien, mythology, Heinlen, etc.etc.etc....it's just fun to play and get lost in for a couple of hours..

and for those of you who don't watch sports...

:muffy:*Muffy like eating's thing that people shouldn't write

kk thx have a nice day
:werd: :Pint:

[Adonis]

I think we've established that we're all a bunch of perverts enough times already.