US deports Canadian... to India?

[Aquarius]

Link (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1035777769334&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154).

[RBA-Wintrow]

{censored} are universal. They'll get fired over this, and, knowing americans someone will sue. While there are in their right to question people there is no excuse for being rude to paying customers.
Can they just destroy her papers? On the educated guess that they might be false?
Surely those five customs people are feeling like idiots right now. They are most likely already looking for a new job.

[Nova]

That story made the front page of The Star - a week ago. It has already been pretty much forgotten about by the media, the government and the people. Last November a Canadian was deported from the US to Syria, that too was never cleared up. Now Canada is currently tied up with some facist pro-Nazi Holocaust Denyer from Germany that the American's gave back to us instead of sending him back to Europe.

Stories like this have been happening since 9/11.

[Mac_Bug]

GG ins

[Paladin]

Actually, them refusing to allow her to speak to the consulate, is a major international incident, or at least, the Canadian government should be very, very angry about it.

I know the US government would pitch an absolute fit if any US citizen was not allowed to speak to the American consulate in any foreign country. When a foreign national asks to speak to a consulate you put them in touch with them. Period. It doesn't matter which consulate they ask to speak to. You make the call.

-Paladin

[trebmal_ca]

A Canadian guy who lives and works in California was detained for 5 days with no phone call or anything, all he did was register his name.

[General Nuke Em]

The INS is a horrible beauracracy that needs to be replaced by something better. But I doubt that these five INS officers had specific orders to "watch for Canadians that immigrated from India in 1994 and humuliate them etc."

[Paladin]

Yes, citizens have been, but it's always wrong, and the government here in the states does get very angry about it. I never said it was racist or anti-canadian, I said it was wrong, and the people involved should be fired. You never, ever deny a foreign national access to the consulate of their choice. Ever.

-Paladin

[SquidDNA]

So in this case they didnt believe she was a Canadian citizen, and were justified in denying her access to that consulate? If I'm following you, dmille.

[Paladin]

Sigh. If you suspect their citizenship claims are false you still put them in touch with the consulate they claim. It's their problem at that point to decide whether or not the person really is a citizen of their nation.

-Paladin

[Langy]

dmille - Meanwhile, they destroyed her passport and Indian visa. Very logical.

[molo]

logic is cool, huh?

[Starfisher]

Not everyone is noble. There is a small but significant percentage of most law enforcement organizations that has a petty and sadistic streak in them. While I know many of the police officers in my home town, and most of them are great people, there are a few who are extremely arrogant and pettily sadistic. This poor women had the misfortune to run into one of the revelers in petty power that give police a bad name everywhere.

While I don't think this is a cause for a major international incident, I find it odd that they wouldn't even allow here to call the consulate. I thought that would be standard procedure in a case like this.

[Soulblighter]

i want to work for the INS :cylon:

[Retroboy]

Actually, them refusing to allow her to speak to the consulate, is a major international incident, or at least, the Canadian government should be very, very angry about it.

If this happened to me, I'd want their heads on a platter, and would stop at nothing to reach resolution of this injustice.

But I don't know the entire story.

Was some little would-be-tinpot-semi-dictator having a bad day because his divorcing wife had wrecked his sex life and had trained his dog to pee on his leg, and so, decided to take it out on the nearest visible minority, figuring she'd never say anything and so he could get away with it?

Or were the customs officials subjected to verbal and physical abuse as they were performing their mandated duties, and after warning this person repeatedly, got fed up and over-reacted, deciding to teach her a lesson?

Regardless, she seems to be a nervous individual ("I couldn't cook for a week!") and might be exaggerating... but time will tell.

BTW Starfisher is dead-on. I have heard many stories of U.S. customs abuse. It's important to remember that customs work is both very repetitive (i.e. boring) and low-paying, so it doesn't necessarily attract geniuses or impartial people.

-- Retro, a Canadian who lives near the border.

[Genetic Bryy]

A thought just crossed my mind:
Did the Taliban take into consideration that this type of stuff would happen once they ran into the towers? Or was that just a bonus of the inital paranoia?

[Paladin]

There is a small but significant percentage of most law enforcement organizations that has a petty and sadistic streak in them.
Most of those types become prison guards, to be honest. The main problem with mainstream law enforcement is they become jaded and develop the attitude that everyone is guilty, only some haven't been caught yet.

-Paladin

[Cooker]

this is normal.
everyone makes mistakes, some mistakes are not that bad, like forget to brush your tooth in the morning, some are outrangous, like that one in the link.

to error is human.

you can't believe how devsating your own mistake can be from time to time, much less acusing others for their wrongs.

[Retroboy]

Did the Taliban take into consideration that this type of stuff would happen once they ran into the towers? Or was that just a bonus of the inital paranoia?Bin Laden is an intelligent man, regardless of his idealistic or sociopathic flaws. He's done his homework and is aware of the power and pervasiveness of a successful terrorism campaign as one of the few potentially successful weapons against a much larger and more powerful enemy, which produces side-effects of making people behave oddly and in paranoid fashion even years after the events that affected their lives.

Terrorism campaigns work for this reason. Where they FAIL is when they vastly underestimate the capabilities of the target to retaliate.

Whups, hijacked the thread. Sorry, just answering a question. :D

-- Retro

[Alliance]

its all the american capitalism...
and the fact that humanity sucks down to money and power...